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Rodriguezjames55
September 12th, 2012, 06:51 PM
This election I was not happy. A choice between Obama or Romney than bang 3rd party cantidate here the candidates highlights

To comply with the rules im showing highlights and cons of other candidates
Obama :Killed osama bin laden, Likability, well spoken, relations with foreign nations.
cons: Illegal Immigrants allowed citizenship easier, broken promises, bad economist, supports sopa,
Romney: Sees China as a threat/rival, Better Immigration laws, oil drilling
Cons: a robot that unrelatable, repeal Obama care,For Sopa, Changes stances rapidly
I'm bais here so little warning
Gary johnson: pros (Many people haven't heard of him here a video)
giE_pPFwDMM
con Not known, lack of support, lack of media coverage, and doesnt view China as a threat/rival
Now who do you want as president now that you have information

Sodom
September 13th, 2012, 08:57 AM
While I don't love that this thread is a thinly veiled attempt to promote a Presidential candidate, I'll allow it to live because it's topical and very relevant right now. Since we don't allow 'this or that' polls, I'm going to edit the poll at the top of the page to be more inclusive and let everybody know right now that they're free to talk about any presidential candidate they like. But I'd also like to remind you that this is a poll, not a discussion.

With that out of the way, if I were American I'd vote Obama. I don't look at economical issues because I'm sure each candidate has people who are equally capable of screwing everything up. My vote goes with the social issues, and Obama and left-wing political parties are more consistent with how I believe America and the world should progress.

Rodriguezjames55
September 13th, 2012, 02:26 PM
fixed it i didn't post obama and romney cuz they are pretty well known

TornZero
September 13th, 2012, 07:44 PM
I only vote for Presidential Candidate Overlord Drakow. His platform (read: endless supply of super-soldiers) is very convincing.

Overall, Obama matches my own ideals, much like Shining Raichu here. I mean, both the candidates have equally crappy potential, but Obama should at least get a second chance to fix whatever Bush screwed up.

droomph
September 14th, 2012, 02:50 PM
I don't like politics either, but whatever.

I would let Obama go another four years, because obv four years isn't enough to fix about twenty years of screw-ups :P

Hikamaru
September 15th, 2012, 06:17 AM
I'd go with Barack Obama, cos he's such an inspiring figure.

I'd love him to have another four-year term so he can fixed what Bush screwed up.

Oryx
September 15th, 2012, 06:38 AM
Not surprised that PC is full of Obama voters.

I see economy as the same thing that Andy does. It's in a President's best interest to do what's most likely to pick up the economy, and Obama has shown that he's not afraid to agree with Republicans if it's for the good of the country (or rather, agree with them to get them to shut up and budge an inch from their far right ideals). So of course Obama would try his absolute best to fix the economy, with help from both parties. The only thing that worries me is that these past four years, Obama has tried and has been blocked at every turn by Republican Tea Partiers that filibuster anything close to compromise because it's not exactly what they want, and then argue that Obama hasn't done anything. So then the economy doesn't pick up, because surprise surprise, the President is blocked at every turn by hyper-partisan politics!

In addition to all that, I'm not an economist and I've never even taken an Economics class. I don't know what Reaganomics is, I don't know the positive and negative effects of different policies, and I don't know how to tell what's good economic policy and what's not. So voting on that, I would basically be voting blind.

So I vote on social issues, where it's not necessarily in the candidate's best interest to be progressive on. The social policies of the Republican party in general and Romney/Ryan in particular are terrifying, and would have scary consequences if elected. So I want them as far from the White House as possible.

I took a political test that said that I am closest to Jill Stein politically but I feel that no third party group really has a chance in this election because it's especially partisan, so voting for one is really just taking a vote from Obama and making it a bit less likely that he'll win.

Altix
September 17th, 2012, 06:28 AM
I clicked gary johnsen on accident. I meant Obama though.

Rodriguezjames55
September 17th, 2012, 03:08 PM
finally another johnson voter i felt alone

Playful_Weasel
September 18th, 2012, 01:45 AM
Not much into politics, but I don't like Obama or Romney, the only choice was other. I had a choice I would vote for some one else, I wish there was a third party candidate.

Cosmotone8
September 18th, 2012, 02:25 AM
I'll be the only one voting for Mickey Mouse Mitt Romney. Not much into politics, but I still feel like I relate to him better than I can Obama.

Rodriguezjames55
September 18th, 2012, 01:00 PM
Not much into politics, but I don't like Obama or Romney, the only choice was other. I had a choice I would vote for some one else, I wish there was a third party candidate.

their is gary johnson
giE_pPFwDMM

Kura
September 18th, 2012, 01:32 PM
I'm really bad with keeping up with politics @_@ like.. really terrible.. I never know what's going on.. but with the pros and cons you've given I'd probably go with Obama though.. but either way I can't vote.

Rodriguezjames55
September 27th, 2012, 05:01 PM
little news update gary johnson is sueing to get to the debates cuz of americas duopoly in politics

Are there Oceans in Space?
September 27th, 2012, 05:38 PM
Yeah you can call me the uninformed voter, or non-voter for that fact. First election after I turn 18 so I was like oh I should vote and stuff, but I honestly haven't learned anything about the candidates, so my vote would be pretty much be random.

Aphrodite
September 28th, 2012, 10:38 AM
Let's say I lived in America and I as a citizen and whatever, let's say that was all true. I would vote for Obama because quite simply, the other realistic option is far too terrible to imagine. I don't claim to understand the economy, because I understand 0% of it, but based purely on issues like gay marriage, abortion and the like, I'd vote for him because to me he is the best choice for America at this point in time.

I'll let Cher finish off this post for me:
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/cher.png

Rodriguezjames55
October 3rd, 2012, 07:21 PM
who saw the debates and did it change your opinion

Demon.
October 3rd, 2012, 07:23 PM
The debates wont really change anyones opinion. Most people are already set in who they will vote for.



Obama 2012.

Wobbachomp
October 3rd, 2012, 08:03 PM
If I was American, probably Obama... None of them seem too amazing to me though.

Patchisou Yutohru
October 3rd, 2012, 09:26 PM
Ignore my last post *deletes*.
I'm voting Jill Stein.

TheEnlightenedPokéManiac
October 4th, 2012, 06:37 PM
Mitt Romney is the better candidate for this term's election:

•Obama
Pros: (none that I can think if as his agenda is completely un-layed out because all he has been doing in his campaign is Romney bashing because he has nothing to run on that would benifit his campaign other than the fact that America is now a liberal nation which means of course they would like a liberal candidate)
Cons: Obama supports abortion (even late-term abortion and partial birth abortion, and if you don't know what a partial birth abortion is it is an abortion that occurs while the CHILD is being delivered ie. it has it's head a portion of the way out of the womb), his stimulus package cost America $153 BILLION MORE than the war in Iraq (the Iraqi war cost America $709 Billion where as Obama's failed stimulus package cost America $862 BILLION) he spent more in 3 MONTHS on a "stimulus" package than America as a whole spent in 7 YEARS on a war. Obama-"care" is a disgrace to America and the morals it was founded on as we seceded from England as it is an ADDITIONAL TAX that is unnecessary and forced health care which means that according to the United States Constitution is considered government overstepping its power and boundaries.
I could continue however I am running short on time.

So why is Romney the better candidate? The answer is simple; ANYONE is better than Obama and AMERICA cannot afford to spend another for years under the comunistic ideas and reign of Barack Obama.

God Bless and Help America!

When I get more time I will post the pros and cons of Mitt Romney... Oh and did you see the presidential debate yesterday (oct. 3)? If not go and watch it...

It will give you the jest of the two's agendas and the truth to their campaign tactics...

Mario The World Champion
October 4th, 2012, 09:45 PM
Both candidates are weak. If Obama gets re-elected, he will most likely be a lame duck president if the Republicans keep control of the House or take control of the Senate, nothing Obama will propose will get by the polarized Republican base. Even if the Democrats retake control of the House, Obama could have done so much more when they had control of both parties in 2009-2010. The Obamacare controversy with that mandate about being FORCED to buy health insurance makes he despise him. He is not my Dad, telling me what to do.

With Mitt Romney, a little clarity wouldn't hurt. Does he have ANY plans for if he gets elected besides repealing Obamacare? How does he plan to get more jobs here? Are he and Paul Ryan going to destroy Medicare or improve it to make it function better? Is he going to enforce American law all over the world or have the country be an observer and helper to countries in need if asked? Mitt Romney never grew up as a normal person of the middle class, so I doubt he understands what we are going through. I just don't trust him.

Why am I thinking about this? Maybe because I (finally) registered to vote in this election. That and we got the Scott Brown/Elizabeth Warren Senate race in Massachusetts. I'm leaning towards Scott Brown because he actually does something neither political of either party does these days: Compromise.

tl;dr, both candidates are buffoons, both Johnson and Stein have a snowball's chance in Hell of succeeding, hyperpartisianship is rampant, both parties are fractured, compromise is forbidden, both parties can't make a decent budget, we are giving money to countries that have terrorists kill our ambassadors, China will own us and everyday people still can't get a job.

The tunnel is still dark and I don't see a light in the end.

LilJz
October 5th, 2012, 07:30 AM
I'm canadian so I can't vote for which president haha.
But we're having an elections ourselves for the next prime minister pretty soon also =P

Rodriguezjames55
October 6th, 2012, 05:58 AM
I voting for gary johnson (if you didnt know) even tho im 16 (Harlem doesn't check any thing) any way ideology wise he fits where i go
cuts unnecessary programs (unfortunately obama care one of them)
he will let churches do what they want with marriage (obama will force them to marry gays) while making legal
less taxes and my favorite limiting drug cartells power by making weed legal
durring the debates i saw this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVHGJYy4NTg&feature=youtu.be)with it and i found obama and romney failing during the debate at least theirs a new meme
http://oi45.tinypic.com/2lavd77.jpg

Jackrico77
October 6th, 2012, 06:04 PM
Gary Johnson on the sheer note that i hate all the other candidates

Demon.
October 6th, 2012, 06:39 PM
I voting for gary johnson (if you didnt know) even tho im 16 (Harlem doesn't check any thing) any way ideology wise he fits where i go
cuts unnecessary programs (unfortunately obama care one of them)
he will let churches do what they want with marriage (obama will force them to marry gays) while making legal
less taxes and my favorite limiting drug cartells power by making weed legal
durring the debates i saw this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVHGJYy4NTg&feature=youtu.be)with it and i found obama and romney failing during the debate at least theirs a new meme

You act like this is a bad thing.

Riku
October 6th, 2012, 07:13 PM
Seeing as how I live in a solid red state and my vote doesn't mean jack anyway, and seeing as how my preferred candidate finally was placed on the ballot here recently, my vote is going to go to Jill Stein. However, if I had to choose between the big two, Obama > Romney, for sure.

Rodriguezjames55
October 6th, 2012, 08:12 PM
You act like this is a bad thing.

difference between letting them be legally married and forcing churches to marry them heard of separation between church and state

Demon.
October 6th, 2012, 09:01 PM
Well if he legalized gay marriage, a church would have to marry them or they would be breaking federal law.

Rodriguezjames55
October 6th, 2012, 09:33 PM
exactly why it breaks the 1st ammendemt

Demon.
October 6th, 2012, 09:53 PM
so gay people shouldnt be allowed to get married? Because the Christian bible says they shouldnt lay together? It says nothing about them getting married. So it wouldnt break the first amendment. It shouldnt be banned in the first place, but whatever.

Netto Azure
October 6th, 2012, 09:58 PM
President Obama for Electability and achievements during his first 2 years. Jill Stein of the Green Party for promoting most of my principles. Hmm...choices, choices.

Such is the dilemma of the Electoral College. Hell If I could I'd vote for Social Democrat Bernie Sanders as my senator, and Nancy Pelosi as my Representative. Then again having Henry Waxman as my congressman isn't half bad. :P

donavannj
October 6th, 2012, 09:59 PM
A church isn't the only place a legal marriage can be held, gentlemen. My parents were married in a courthouse, and I'd assume any gay marriages would be the same way my parents' heterosexual marriage was (conducted in a courthouse instead of a church). I highly doubt Obama would actually force the churches to perform marriages (among other things, he doesn't have the power to make such a mandate on his own), seeing as a church marriage is for ceremonial religious purposes, which the biggest reason gay marriage supporters want it legalized in all states is so that gays are equal in the eyes of the law and can receive the same tax benefits heterosexual couples do.


EDIT: Also, I'm likely voting for Barack Obama, especially due to major flip-flopping on Romney's part with regards to his opinions and plans. Also because Romney lived a very privileged life from birth.

Rodriguezjames55
October 6th, 2012, 10:50 PM
im aware of that and i heard that he was forcing churches to do that probably not a good idea to listen to a religion teacher and before you sat im a right wing extremist my familly is Democrats im liberaltarian

Penta Penguin
October 11th, 2012, 12:13 PM
Well, since I'm not from America, I would probably vote Obama. I think that Mitt Romney's mannerisms is too much like PM David Cameron, and I think that America will sink even further if Romney gets in. That's just my opinion.

LividZephyr
October 11th, 2012, 12:44 PM
I am an eligible American voter, and analysis indicates the following:

Pros for Obama: Is a great orator
Cons for Obama: Campaigns instead of doing job, weak foreign policy, has caused mass unemployment and many people have quit looking, supports illegal immigration, has no leadership skills, lies in campaign ads, has nothing to run on, raised the cost of living but lowered personal income, has no idea what he's doing, wants to keep funding everything with taxpayer dollars, is probably a puppet

Pros for Romney: Has a track record, can work with both sides, will cut taxes and cost of living, picked a good running mate
Cons for Romney: Has been out of the scene for a while, doesn't have the presence, says a lot of things that make him look ignorant, has weak job promises, isn't running a good campaign, [may] support SOPA, sometimes changes his mind [not as much as John Kerry but still]

...I'm leaning Romney, really. I can think of more good things for him and more bad things for Obama. It's really a tough call, though, because Obama has been an awful president. Would Romney be much better? Probably not.

Back in 2008, Obama said that if he didn't fix the economy, he'd be a one-term president. That should be true. I say we put Romney in, then install someone else who isn't radical left like Obama or radical right like Dick Santorum. We need a change every four years until we get someone capable like Ronald Reagan or JFK.

Demon.
October 11th, 2012, 01:04 PM
Obama put that economy back on track.

Mario The World Champion
October 11th, 2012, 02:23 PM
Obama put that economy back on track.

I have to disagree with that. Unemployment is still high. It could be even higher if they counted the discouraged workers and the jobs that are created are low-wage. The looming fiscal cliff will hurt this country more than we know even if Obama is re-elected or Romney is elected.

I fear the people in Congress WANT to bring this country to ruin since all they do is bicker like spoiled children most of the time. They say that they'll wait after the election to do something, but after seeing that poor excuse of a "super-committee" fail, I really think very poorly of the children in Congress.

LividZephyr
October 11th, 2012, 05:06 PM
I have to disagree with that. Unemployment is still high. It could be even higher if they counted the discouraged workers and the jobs that are created are low-wage. The looming fiscal cliff will hurt this country more than we know even if Obama is re-elected or Romney is elected.

I fear the people in Congress WANT to bring this country to ruin since all they do is bicker like spoiled children most of the time. They say that they'll wait after the election to do something, but after seeing that poor excuse of a "super-committee" fail, I really think very poorly of the children in Congress.
Obama is probably worse, given how he has no leadership stills. Romney... well he hasn't proven he can propose a decisive plan that will get things done.

Congress? They're more like Neanderthals. They have no idea what they're doing, and they're a partisan war zone that does whatever their leaders want. I say we fire everyone in Congress. Vote ALL of them out of office, and get new blood in to actually, you know, run this country the way the Founding Fathers wanted, instead of leech off of its taxpayers. It's pathetic. It's Congress that is ruining this country more than the President, but the most damage was caused when Congress was in complete control of the Democrats - both under Bush and Obama. I'm REALLY unhappy with the Democrats right now. And I'm not at all happy with the Republicans, either.

Let's start a third party, guys. That way, we can get somebody Gary Johnson elected in 2016.

AChipOffTheOldBrock
October 11th, 2012, 05:07 PM
Obama put that economy back on track.
Haha, nice one.

God, I miss Ron Paul. Obama didnt really do anything except Obamacare and that was just another step toward despotism. But, Romney is just unlikeable as a person and I disagree with alot of what he says. If I was 18 I'd stay home. Other, ftw!

Brendino
October 11th, 2012, 11:11 PM
Being a Canadian watching this election from the outside, it's always interested me how different the two countries are in terms of politics despite being right next to each other. Here, we've got 5 different parties comprising the government (the second largest being a social democratic party), yet for the U.S. there's no real option outside the big 2.

If I were an American but the U.S. used something similar to Canada's voting system, I'd probably choose Gary Johnson. However, since the only two realistic choices are Obama and Romney, I would choose Obama. While I wouldn't say I'm a supporter of his, I just don't think that Mitt Romney makes a very strong candidate, especially seeing him flip-flop on some of his stances.

Hannah
October 13th, 2012, 06:05 PM
If I were an American citizen, I'd vote for Barack Obama. Ever since he became president, the Philippines, where I live, is now highly associated with America. And I like black presidents.

AChipOffTheOldBrock
October 13th, 2012, 08:46 PM
And I like black presidents.

Racism. I always felt that was the only reason he got elected in the first place was because hes black. Hes not even black really, hes barely brown. I remember in 08 all the Gobama folk at my school said if you dont vote for Obama your a racist. It aint right. People just ignore his views and vote for him because "Omg first black prez!" or "Omg I dont want people to think Im racist!"

princeofpoop
October 14th, 2012, 11:27 AM
Obama. Mostly because I haven't payed attention to the 3rd party canditates, and I hate Romney with a fiery passion. Obama also seems to have proved trustworthy for the last 4 years.

Rodriguezjames55
October 22nd, 2012, 05:06 PM
debates on no Johnson hes up to 10% now
election day almost here

60
October 22nd, 2012, 06:03 PM
Racism. I always felt that was the only reason he got elected in the first place was because hes black. Hes not even black really, hes barely brown. I remember in 08 all the Gobama folk at my school said if you dont vote for Obama your a racist. It aint right. People just ignore his views and vote for him because "Omg first black prez!" or "Omg I dont want people to think Im racist!"
You think the only reason Obama got elected was because he was black? On this large a stage you think race was the determining factor?

And I'm not voting. From what I've heard, both candidates have ups and downs and I don't feel like I could make a decision anyways.

Cassino
October 23rd, 2012, 06:06 AM
con [...] doesnt view China as a threat/rival
I can't help but see that view as representative of what's wrong with the US, but this thread isn't about American imperialism... well it is, ultimately, but... from my outsider perspective, Obama is the most reasonable leader the US has had in quite some time.

Went
October 23rd, 2012, 07:30 AM
Well, I'm part of that 90% of Europeans who cringe at the thought of someone from the Republican Party ruling the US, so it's pretty obvious.

I always love how different we are when someone talks about how Obama is "extreme left". In our views, Romney would be off-the-charts-right and Obama a moderate somewhere between Conservatives and Labour/Social-Democrats. And then someone like Gingrich would be in an asylum. If someone tried to build a political agenda around spreading private healthcare in any EU country, he'd be attacked by torch-wielding angry mobs during every public speech, not be nominated for President.

awolfsquared
October 23rd, 2012, 11:41 AM
This is my first time voting in a presidential election and I honestly I don't care enough for either Romney or Obama to vote for either one. Romney can say some foolish things sometimes, though Obama hasn't impressed me enough in the last 4 years. Then again, I don't pay attention to politics alot. I'm more of a independent person, I support both Republican and Democratic ideas. So either I will go for a 3rd party candidate or not vote at all.

PlatinumDude
October 23rd, 2012, 11:55 AM
If I could vote, I'd vote for Obama. IMO, he did a good job as president so far. I don't care much about politics, so yeah.

Rodriguezjames55
October 24th, 2012, 02:34 AM
check out this test compares your ideals with the other candidates
http://www.isidewith.com/presidential-election-quiz
my results no shocker

Mario The World Champion
October 24th, 2012, 01:52 PM
I took that quiz for the lulz and what I got was shocking.

I sided with Barack Obama on 75% of the issues. The shocking thing was Jill Stein was at 72% and Gary Johnson was at 69% and I seriously don't think highly of those two for being small fish in a big pond with piranha Republicans and Democrats. Mitt was only at 56% and honestly, I can't stand Romney for signing the damn healthcare law in Massachusetts.

Riku
October 24th, 2012, 05:20 PM
Taken this before. 82%-88% Jill Stein, depending on what's on my mind at the time, 76-80% Obama. 73-75% with Johnson. Romney I sit at 4-6% =b Current results:

http://oi48.tinypic.com/2wgd9vp.jpg

Crux
October 26th, 2012, 08:24 PM
The best man for the job has been removed from the race. :<

If I was forced to vote for one of the two most covered, (which is unfortunantly Romney and that other guy.) it would be Romney.
I don't personally think either of them would be good to have in office,but at least there's a chance with Romney...Obama brought change all right....... l:<

P.s.
I'm feeling rather dubious that i'll return to this topic,so don't expect a gripping discussion to insue...

TRIFORCE89
October 26th, 2012, 08:43 PM
I didn't get terribly strong results from that site. I gave a lot of custom answers instead of selecting from the existing ones. That screws up the results. Ended up with:

Barack Obama on foreign policy and economic issues 57%

Jill Stein on healthcare issues 46%

Rocky Anderson on healthcare issues 36%

Mitt Romney on domestic policy issues 30%

Gary Johnson on no major issues 25%

Virgil Goode on no major issues 1%

American Voters on foreign policy and domestic policy issues. 42%


I don't think I agree with Obama overwhelmingly on the economy. If anything, I agree with both of them XD But, whatever

Alice
October 26th, 2012, 11:06 PM
http://imgs.isidewith.com/results-image/187276304.jpg
Yeah, that's exactly what I expected. If I had bothered to register to vote, I would definitely have voted for Gary Johnson. It doesn't show two of the candidates on the image, but it put Rocky Anderson quite a bit above both Obama and Romney.

Although, I don't really think libertarian and Green should be tied. Give 15% from the Green party to the Libertarian, and I'd say it's about right.