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Livewire
December 3rd, 2012, 08:52 PM
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Anyone else as pumped as me for the long awaited reboot of Superman directed by Zach Snyder? The new full trailer for the Man of Steel is attached to the screenings of The Hobbit, and the film hits theaters in the U.S. on June 14th, 2013. The film stars Henry Cavill (The Tudors) as Superman with Amy Adams as Lois Lane, Kevin Costner & Diane Lane as Mr. & Mrs. Kent, and Russell Crowe as Jor-El.

It's Zack Snyder, CHRISTOPHER NOLAN AND DAVID GOYER, and it's Superman. What's not to like. Judging from the Comic-Con trailer and the teasers, this one's going to be big for DC and Warner Bros.

New Poster:

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2012/12/Man-of-Steel-poster2-610x904.jpg


Discuss the Man of Steel!

TRIFORCE89
December 3rd, 2012, 09:07 PM
I know Nolan is involved to some degree, but still... I find the Superman mythos to boring as hell. Not really looking forward to it.

Wings Don't Cry
December 5th, 2012, 04:06 PM
The new poster isn't showing up on my end and when I try to open a new tab it just says referral denied.

Anyway I don't really know if I should be excited or not. I was hoping for Brainiac as the villain of this film but instead we're getting Zod again. No offence to any Zod fans but he's not exactly at the top of my list for Superman villains, Zod just seems like leftover mess that the Kryptonians didn't clean up before their death.

Sassy Milkshake
December 5th, 2012, 05:53 PM
Although I'm like in no way familiar with Superman, I have been seeing a lot of superhero movies lately, so I'm probably gonna get pumped up for this one too! And Kevin Costner is always an interesting choice haha.

LilJz
December 5th, 2012, 07:16 PM
I love DC. I'm really looking forward to this movie and the Justice League also. But I'm not too fond of them ALREADY making a reboot of Batman so that it would fit into the Justice League storyline @_@

Livewire
December 5th, 2012, 07:41 PM
I love DC. I'm really looking forward to this movie and the Justice League also. But I'm not too fond of them ALREADY making a reboot of Batman so that it would fit into the Justice League storyline @_@

Joseph Gordon-Levitt 4 Batman 2015

Growing up I had two superheros, Superman & Batman. Team DC forever, haha. I just hope they don't screw up when it comes to Justice League.

Pinkie-Dawn
December 5th, 2012, 08:04 PM
Like Wings Don't Cry, I was expecting Brainiac to be our villain (so they could save Luthor for the second film like they did with Joker in the Dark Knight). Judging by the new poster, it seems like part of the plot is that Superman will eventually become the hero everyone loves near the end once he defeats Zod, but he's currently seen as an alien terrorist.

Mariah Carey
December 8th, 2012, 09:06 PM
I would have preferred Braniac over Zod, but Zod can still be an effective villain for the movie in his own right. Expect a long rant about his dastardly plan and then a few epic punch ups between Superman and Zod, both inflicting equal amount of damage to each other due to them both being Kryptonians! I wouldn't be surprised to see an appearance from Zod's son, who betrayed him in the comics and locked him up in the Phantom Zone.

To be honest, you know what I'd really like? A nice cameo appearance from Bizarro Superman. He could never be considered a real villain in the movies, unless he was part of a plotline in which the real master behind the plot was using him as a scapegoat for his crimes (something Lex Luthor would do, but we've moved on from Lex, lol) or something along the lines of that. I'd also be open to Doomsday dropping in, too, though he'd by far be considered the villain of the plot.

But really, I'm not that excited about this. Superman is boring.

Sodom
December 9th, 2012, 05:03 AM
I really don't like that they're copying Marvel by beginning their own Avengers-style franchise, but I guess imitation is the best form of flattery!

As for this movie, I was shocked at how much I liked it. I hate the Superman mythos as well, it's just boring to me. When I heard they were making another Superman movie I groaned internally, only to see a library full of people turn in their chairs and realise I wasn't groaning internally. Then I saw the trailer at the movies and I was shocked at how much I liked it. I didn't want to like it, but I did. I actually can't wait to see how this goes!

TRIFORCE89
December 9th, 2012, 07:23 AM
I really don't like that they're copying Marvel by beginning their own Avengers-style franchise, but I guess imitation is the best form of flattery!
It was always their intention. But between development hell, movies that didn't perform as expected, and Nolan's Batman which didn't mesh with the overall DC world, they couldn't really get the ball rolling.

Aside from Supes, I think they're going to be introducing the characters through the JL movie instead of individual movies. That they're speeding it up like that is a direct reaction to The Avengers success. But a JL was always the intention probably.

Livewire
December 11th, 2012, 11:40 AM
But really, I'm not that excited about this. Superman is boring.

I really don't like that they're copying Marvel by beginning their own Avengers-style franchise, but I guess imitation is the best form of flattery!


To be fair though, D.C. not only predates Marvel, but the Justice League Movie, as well as the next wave of D.C. movies, has been in the works far longer that it was supposed to. Going on 7-8 years now. They got screwed over by the writers strike a few years back and from some logistical errors by the studios.

I know Nolan is involved to some degree, but still... I find the Superman mythos to boring as hell. Not really looking forward to it.

:|

Hopefully the new trailer should rectify this!

The way I see it, people think Superman boring because we've always had the campy, G-Rated, idealized version of Superman portrayed in films. Similar to how the Batman franchise used to be. Throw in several bad films, and the franchise suffers for awhile. And we all know how well Mr. Nolan rectified Batman's kiddie and soft persona, so expect the same thing here.

And wow, that trailer. Nolan did it again.

Sarah Morgan
December 11th, 2012, 11:48 AM
Doesn't look nearly as good as Iron Man 3. I've been turned off Superman movies since Christopher Reeves; I hope this isn't supposed to lead into a JL movie.

Pinkie-Dawn
December 11th, 2012, 11:59 AM
The way I see it, people think Superman boring because we've always had the campy, G-Rated, idealized version of Superman portrayed in films. Similar to how the Batman franchise used to be. Throw in several bad films, and the franchise suffers for awhile. And we all know how well Mr. Nolan rectified Batman's kiddie and soft persona, so expect the same thing here.

And wow, that trailer. Nolan did it again.

I thought people find Superman boring because of his invulernability/God Mode Sue status (as long as Kryptonite isn't involved), thus making him unrelatable to other people compared to the likes of Batman, Spider-Man, and Iron Man. They've tried making him more relatable by giving him a child in Superman Return, but that didn't turn out well. I also don't think it's because of the campy/kiddy persona either. A lot of people didn't like how the old Hulk movie was too dark and depressing, as well as the new Spider-Man movie for trying to adopt the dark and edgy atmosphere of Nolan's Batman movies.

LilJz
December 11th, 2012, 12:03 PM
Doesn't look nearly as good as Iron Man 3. I've been turned off Superman movies since Christopher Reeves; I hope this isn't supposed to lead into a JL movie.

I think it's related to the Justice League movie.

Livewire
December 11th, 2012, 12:10 PM
I thought people find Superman boring because of his invulernability/God Mode Sue status (as long as Kryptonite isn't involved), thus making him unrelatable to other people compared to the likes of Batman, Spider-Man, and Iron Man. They've tried making him more relatable by giving him a child in Superman Return, but that didn't turn out well. I also don't think it's because of the campy/kiddy persona either. A lot of people didn't like how the old Hulk movie was too dark and depressing, as well as the new Spider-Man movie for trying to adopt the dark and edgy atmosphere of Nolan's Batman movies.

But that's a cornerstone of the character, that's what Superman is. He's an alien with unrivaled strength, power and moral fiber. People forget that Superman is one of the oldest, most well known, and most revered comic book characters ever, and is a pop culture icon ahead of pretty much every other comic book hero, even ahead of characters like Batman and Spiderman.

thus making him unrelatable to other people compared to the likes of Batman, Spider-Man, and Iron Man.

The Snyder/Nolan film should rectify this part. The point of Superman originally, (before those horrible follow-up movies to the original) was that even though he was an alien and not human, he still had human failings and flaws. And from what's been seen so far, that's the theme that Man of Steel has taken.

Triston1zn
December 11th, 2012, 03:55 PM
HOLY **** ON A SHINGLE.....just watched the new Man of Steel Trailor....
In my opinion the best comic book movie trailor of all time....even beating the Dark knight rises...

Ok I get it....superman was originally created during times of depression and war....when all people needed was a positive message and a happy ending. The superman of that age spoke to the needs and experiences of a different generation of people who needed one thing...HOPE.

However, times do change and once the war had ended and the great depression was behind them, every writer to interpret and re-interpret the superman character always seemed to have the need to conform him to the "needs" of the past....hence we had a generation of rebels who were stuck with a "goody two shoes" superman. It was natural that superman became "boring" and "mundane" and all those cool words that make you seem like you have a doctorate in the English language.

HOWEVER

That doesn't have to be the end-all-be-all of the most famous superhero of all time.
Smallville was the beginning step in a journey to making superman relevant to today's audiences and I feel that the upcoming movie "man of steel" will complete that journey and give us our first look at this generation's superman.

If you take a look at my sig pic, you will see one interpretation of "today's superman".....he has the modern look and just seems like he is done shaking hands and kissing babies, even though he isn't done being the saviour of the masses!

Some people might feel that the "original" superman should remain and not be tampered with,but these same people rally behind Chris Nolan's Dark knight without realising that the original Batman created by Bob kane was anything but dark (watch the 1960 Batman movie), and that only through interpretation and re-interpretation of the character, was our beloved, hardcore, badass, Batman born!

So, before you jump on the "boring character" bandwagon, just because Supes isn't human, try to understand that we can relate to superman just as much as Batman if you see them as symbols and not literal figures...

batman resembles the journey of loss and coping with loss and turning your anger into strength....whilst superman deals with being an outcast and being made to feel like you're a monster just because you're different...also superman speaks to every person out there who struggles to find their place in life and who constantly feels like...well...an alien.

From the little I saw in the trailor, it looks like alot of work has gone into exploring superman's mindset and how he deals with being different and being rejected because you're different.....Superman is someone I can relate to personally, being an orphan and being treated like a freak just because I was different...people always assumed the worst in me because I didn't have any parents so I "didn't know any better"....and that stuck with me my entire life.....so I speak from experience when i say that, we all can relate to the Superman character in our own way, we just need to forget about the super for a minute and look at the man himself...

LilJz
December 11th, 2012, 04:41 PM
Superman is a pretty unique superhero.

While most superhero we know gains their power by some strange events, Superman was born with it. It's a good change from the general superhero persona since most superhero are regular living being that puts a mask to hide their true identity while fighting crime. But Superman, he hides his true identity while interacting with humans and show his true self when fighting vilains.

I'm a huge comic book geek myself so knowing the comic books I gotta say that while the comics books of Superman aren't the greatest ones out there, the story of Superman himself is probably one of the greatest ones out there.

Ryoutarou
December 11th, 2012, 05:02 PM
The Snyder/Nolan film should rectify this part. The point of Superman originally, (before those horrible follow-up movies to the original) was that even though he was an alien and not human, he still had human failings and flaws. And from what's been seen so far, that's the theme that Man of Steel has taken.

I really hope this movie is able to accurately portray that aspect of his character. I'm not a fan of Nolan's movies, I thought Batman Begins was just okay and I don't like the other two and...it's a little disheartening to see this film sticking so close to that style, but as long as it keeps some of that optimistic Superman style, I think it'll be a decent movie. You can make a good Superman film without needing to be essentially Nolan's Superman. Superman doesn't and shouldn't need to be a copy of the recent Batman movies, but he does need to be moved away from the movies that are already out there about him. Heck, you can make a good Superman story about Superman's moral fiber and still portray it in a believable manner with merit to what he believes. Just look at the What's So Funny About Truth, Justice & the American Way? storyline from the comics. With that story we got an unapologetic look at what Superman is and why he believes the things he does - and I think that's the key to making a good Superman film, having the audience understand him. I think that's the key difference between the Superman and Batman movies. The Batman movies moved with the times and took aspects from the different, recent stories and used those to craft a fairly modern view of the character.

The modern Superman mythos has a ton of great stuff you can pull from, but the popular mindset is still stuck on the Golden Age view of Superman and, unlike other characters, has been so unwilling to move beyond that. There are a ton of modern Superman stories to pull from. War of the Supermen, Death of Superman, and one that I especially think would make for a great movie, Grounded.

Giving Superman depth isn't a new thing, he's not been this unbeatable god-like character in the longest time. I guess people just haven't made the effort to search those stories out in comic form.

Mariah Carey
December 11th, 2012, 05:04 PM
To be fair though, D.C. not only predates Marvel, but the Justice League Movie, as well as the next wave of D.C. movies, has been in the works far longer that it was supposed to. Going on 7-8 years now. They got screwed over by the writers strike a few years back and from some logistical errors by the studios.

I'm not just meaning the movies, I'm also talking about the roots of Superman: the comic books. As you should well know, I'm an avid fan of comics, D.C in particular, and Superman and his stories have just never interested me. I think it's a long standing personal distaste of the Man in Tights that's stopping me from getting excited about this movie, though, as you say in the next paragraph, the failures/campyness of the other Superman movies is a factor in why I'm not excited for this movie as well.
:|

Hopefully the new trailer should rectify this!

The way I see it, people think Superman boring because we've always had the campy, G-Rated, idealized version of Superman portrayed in films. Similar to how the Batman franchise used to be. Throw in several bad films, and the franchise suffers for awhile. And we all know how well Mr. Nolan rectified Batman's kiddie and soft persona, so expect the same thing here.


There are many dark episodes in Superman's history to explore and consequently exploit, so I hope Nolan is able to get the dark side of Superman just right.

TRIFORCE89
December 11th, 2012, 05:31 PM
The way I see it, people think Superman boring because we've always had the campy, G-Rated, idealized version of Superman portrayed in films. Similar to how the Batman franchise used to be. Throw in several bad films, and the franchise suffers for awhile. And we all know how well Mr. Nolan rectified Batman's kiddie and soft persona, so expect the same thing here.
Burton's first Bat flick was fine. The Animated Series was probably the truest representation of the comics until the Arkham games. Nolan rescued the film franchise (and I thank him for that), but already throughout the '90s Batman was increasingly seen as darker and less campy.

But, with Superman I never got that impression. Even with the animated series from the same team as the Batman show. It was still lighter and nicer. And when it tried to be serious, it felt weird.

Triston1zn
December 12th, 2012, 09:52 AM
I have a question......

Did Superman fight ZOd before meeting Lex Luther?....talking about the comics here

Any idea?

LilJz
December 12th, 2012, 10:24 AM
Yep, Lex Luthor appeared around the first few issues of the Superman comic books, where General Zod came around issue # 200.

Triston1zn
December 12th, 2012, 02:04 PM
Hey guys...check this out...FAKE...yet awesome!!

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b481/triston1zn/6090484647_ae28f88f77.jpg

LilJz
December 13th, 2012, 08:09 AM
Meh, I prefer the one on your sig to be honest =P

Triston1zn
December 14th, 2012, 12:46 AM
Meh, I prefer the one on your sig to be honest =P

Same here dude, but it's still a well done FAKE movie poster...I don't even think that that's Cavil

LilJz
December 14th, 2012, 08:37 AM
Yea, It's pretty well done tho :P

I like how his eyes are also red like if he's just about to use his heat vision :)

Triston1zn
December 14th, 2012, 09:27 AM
hey lils maybe you can help me out with this question.....im sure you've seen the intro video for the Dc universe online game? and also earth one superman from the comics......I know his eyes glow red when he is about to use heat vision but in those comics and in that video his eyes seem to be constantly glowing red....why is that?

LilJz
December 14th, 2012, 12:01 PM
That's because he's totally pissed off by what's happened. If you saw the little clues in the cinematic, the fight took place in Metropolis where no one has survived, meaning Lois Lane died also. And during the cinematic Diana (Wonder Woman) died also. So that being said, Metropolis gone, Lois Lane and Diana, dead. Superman has lost everything and is in a furious state of rage where he goes to extreme length to even kill the villains such as Black Adam and saying to Lex Luthor that he doesn't deserve to live.

So his eyes goes red when he's extremely pissed.

Triston1zn
December 14th, 2012, 11:55 PM
Wow ok thanks!...I never looked at it that way!...you're the only person whose ever been able to answer that question thanks man!

I noticed he wasn't acting like himself...I didn't realize that he could just lose it.....wicked!!

LilJz
December 15th, 2012, 07:00 AM
Yep, Superman is a rather calm and very nice person. But when he's mad, he turns into this completely different kind of monster D:

Mew~
December 15th, 2012, 08:32 AM
I don't really read any Superman, he's never really hooked me. I totally respect him as a character, though.

As for the movie, I wasn't at all that interested, until I saw the new trailer. I honestly think it looks 100% fantastic!

LilJz
December 15th, 2012, 08:44 AM
I don't really read any Superman, he's never really hooked me. I totally respect him as a character, though.

As for the movie, I wasn't at all that interested, until I saw the new trailer. I honestly think it looks 100% fantastic!

Yay! I honestly hope this movie will bring new Superman fans just like how the first featured film with Christopher Reeves did :)

Jeff Gordon
December 15th, 2012, 10:40 AM
Superman's my favorite superhero, as much as I love the Dark Knight trilogy, this will definitely force me to go to the midnight showing! I cannot wait! Kevin Costner, big fan of his, but not as much as I am toward Johnathan Schneider (Since he played Mr Kent in Smallville).

Going to be a little strange after watching Smallville after all these years with different faces, but I am ready for something new! Hope its as great as the Batman ones, for sure. Because the older Superman & Superman Return never really appealed to me at all.

Yuoaman
December 16th, 2012, 12:50 PM
I'm cautiously optimistic about this film, though Jonathan Kent's line about how Clark should have let the children die rankles me, just no. Honestly, I think Superman is one of the most human and relatable of all superheroes, despite his powers he is, at heart, just a man trying to help people, and I think most people who consider him to be boring are those who are more familiar with the "Super Friends" version of Superman rather than the character as he has been since the 80s.

Dakota
December 16th, 2012, 02:54 PM
In all honesty, I've never seen a Superman movie. So yes, I am pumped for this movie, maybe it'll be the catalyst for me to watch it. I always like superhero movies =D

Jeff Gordon
December 17th, 2012, 03:59 PM
I'm cautiously optimistic about this film, though Jonathan Kent's line about how Clark should have let the children die rankles me, just no. Honestly, I think Superman is one of the most human and relatable of all superheroes, despite his powers he is, at heart, just a man trying to help people, and I think most people who consider him to be boring are those who are more familiar with the "Super Friends" version of Superman rather than the character as he has been since the 80s.

You sir, deserve props for this. I agree with the Costner's version of Kent here. That line caught my ears at first as well, which is why I'm a little worried that Costner's might mess this up as the role of being Clark's adoptive father. I don't think he'll match up to par with Johnathan Schneider's Kent though.

Triston1zn
December 21st, 2012, 10:37 AM
To be honest I loved the way Schneider played Pa Kent on smallville, but when I heard Costner suggest that MAYBE CLark should have let that boy die.....I was hooked....let me explain why..

Since his inception, superman was pushed as having a superhuman body, but a human heart.....basically he is a common man with uncommon physical abilities....

The thing is, MOST comics and movies got it wrong by pushing superman as someone who was just as indestructible emotionally as he was physically and THAT was why he became boring to so many people.....Every hero needs something in their lives that challenges them and gives them a run for their money....in MOST cases, it's some supervillain that keeps a hero honest...but when you have an overpowered hero, you are going to have to play up his emotional side as his weakness......We humans can be loving and helpful creatures, but we can also be resentful, spiteful and angry creatures who act on impulse and regret it later on.....

Superman wasn't raised by JEsus, he was raised by a pair of humans...meaning he is farrr from perfect...yet time after time we see him making the right choice and always being in control....SCREW THAT ****!!...What stops him from getting angry and on impulse shoving a guy through a concrete wall?...what stops him from resenting the world that rejects him and destroying the military vehicles that are shooting at him?....

He will ,of course, learn to cope with these emotions and make the right choice in the end...just LIKE US...and thus superman will have a huge following of fans WHO CAN FINALLY relate to him....

Doppelgänger
January 3rd, 2013, 10:35 PM
I'm not really into superhero films, but I will check this out because Christopher Nolan is a part of it, and he did a fantastic job with the Batman trilogy. Besides that, the trailer actually sparked my interest. I think this is going to be a good one.

Livewire
January 27th, 2013, 10:58 AM
So evidently from what I've been reading on IMDB, the Man of Steel will evidently play into the Justice League movie in 2015 - Henry Cavill's Superman will be the Superman in that movie. So this movie is essentially DC's set up film to launch the armada of DC hero movies in the next five years or so.

Antemortem
January 27th, 2013, 11:15 AM
First The Avengers and all of its necessary prequels, and now a Justice League movie... maybe this will be the pinnacle, the climax, the end of superhero movies? I think nearly all of the bases have been/will soon be covered.

LilJz
January 27th, 2013, 11:21 AM
League Of Legends? I think you mean Justice League x)

And I don't think it will be the end, DC and marvel still got TONS of superhero groups and heroes and villains that still have yet to make a featured film.

Also Avengers and Justice League's roster of heroes got a big roster which changes over the years.

Antemortem
January 27th, 2013, 11:24 AM
And I don't think it will be the end, DC and marvel still got TONS of superhero groups and heroes and villains that still have yet to make a featured film.

Also Avengers and Justice League's roster of heroes got a big roster which changes over the years.
True, but I don't see every group/member getting a movie in the future, or, at least, not the near future.

LilJz
January 27th, 2013, 11:27 AM
Yea since the roster is pretty big. So if they're not going to include the least popular heroes, they'll just do the more popular ones. But maybe what Marvel is trying to do is like a big series out of movies?

Yuoaman
January 27th, 2013, 06:55 PM
First The Avengers and all of its necessary prequels, and now a Justice League movie... maybe this will be the pinnacle, the climax, the end of superhero movies? I think nearly all of the bases have been/will soon be covered.

I doubt it, there are so many great heroes and groups that they've yet to cover in a film ever - such as Aquaman and the Teen Titans. There's so much great stuff they could do.

DavidtheDeadPhilosopher
January 28th, 2013, 03:53 AM
I've never really been much for the Superman Mythos in any generation. However Zack Snyder is my favourite director for his sort of movies (comic,hyperaction),I felt he did a excellent adaptation of Watchman, one of my favourite Comic Books..period.

I trust that he can bring Superman to the screen in stellar form. The trailers actually look interesting, the first for a Supes film for me.

Livewire
February 1st, 2013, 11:38 AM
True, but I don't see every group/member getting a movie in the future, or, at least, not the near future.

I agree. There's dozens upon dozens of other heros who aren't popular enough (Or they're just plain stupid) and probably won't get a movie.

Just ask aquaman

Also, MoS got it's MPAA rating, PG-13. Gee I'm so shocked!