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voicerocker
December 8th, 2012, 08:14 AM
I didn't see any Toonami threads, so I thought I'd make one!

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Line-up (starting February 16, 2013):

Bleach
Naruto
Soul Eater
ThunderCats 2011
Sym-Bionic Titan
Eureka 7
Tenchi Muyo! GXP
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Cowboy Bebop (x2)
InuYasha (x2)

So, who's watching?

Volcanix769
December 8th, 2012, 08:20 AM
I might, only FMA: B and Sym-Bionic Titan. But I hate it when they do reruns. Just get some other show that's recent from 2009+ or something that already aired.

Weeaboo Name
December 8th, 2012, 09:28 AM
At least they're showing FMA and Bebop.

Railgun
December 8th, 2012, 09:34 AM
I might, only FMA: B and Sym-Bionic Titan. But I hate it when they do reruns. Just get some other show that's recent from 2009+ or something that already aired.

Money is an issue. AS and CN are not the same company, They have separate funds and anime is pretty high

The Mega Champion
December 8th, 2012, 11:22 AM
Yeah I'm watching. Just two things though.

Naruto and Samurai 7.

Why is Bleach on hiatus though?

I'm sensing ANIME HATE from Adult Swim AGAIN.

Also... they need to remove ThunderCats and Titan. They don't belong and were canceled for a reason.

voicerocker
December 8th, 2012, 02:45 PM
Money is an issue. AS and CN are not the same company, They have separate funds and anime is pretty high

I'm not sure how accurate this is, AS and CN are the same in a way, but they are treated as 2 separate networks. But I do know that the Toonami staff is employeed by CN. It's kinda complicated.

Yeah I'm watching. Just two things though.

Naruto and Samurai 7.

Why is Bleach on hiatus though?

I'm sensing ANIME HATE from Adult Swim AGAIN.

Also... they need to remove ThunderCats and Titan. They don't belong and were canceled for a reason.

Bleach is on hiatus because they are caught up on dubbed episodes and need time for new ones to be finished. New Bleach returns in 7 weeks.

Adult Swim doesn't hate anime. You should go look through some of the pictures the staff has posted on toonami.tumblr.com of their office. Plenty of anime merch. And it may be worth noting that the staff that is currently working on Toonami is the old Toonami staff, not the group that worked on Adult Swim Action for the last few years.

ThunderCats and Sym-Bionic Titan DO belong since they are action cartoons with good stories. (Toonami is not an anime block) And they were cancelled because of toy sales, not poor ratings. ThunderCats toys didn't do well, and Titan apparenlty couldn't get a toy deal, so they moved on to shows that could, like Adventure Time. Ratings for these shows were said to be pretty good, but the younger demographic that CN hoped would run out and get the toys didn't all accept these shows (No wonder. Titan is very dark for something that isn't anime, and ThunderCats isn't "fun" I guess...) But the demos that AS goes after did take to these shows when they originally aired, which is why they were brought to Toonami.

The Mega Champion
December 9th, 2012, 09:26 AM
Well those shows suck.

Take them off anyway.

voicerocker
December 9th, 2012, 11:12 AM
Well those shows suck.

Take them off anyway.

What about those shows sucks? They're doing better than most the anime on the block and are actually quite popular with the fans. (except for the anime fanatics that think Toonami is strictly for anime)

Ryoutarou
December 9th, 2012, 02:24 PM
Thundercats was also animated in Japan, so you can make the argument that it's half an anime. It's pretty as heck though, it's a shame the show was cancelled after a single season with a really weird airing schedule. It's almost as if CN in general is trying to kill off its action cartoons, Thundercats in particular has some genuinely poignant episodes.

donavannj
December 10th, 2012, 09:42 AM
I've been watching since it debuted, but I've only been watching stuff I haven't seen before, and I've been avoiding Thundercats since I never saw the original and I would like to see that first. I've also cut out Sym-bionic Titan because I don't want to watch TV for 4 straight hours. So my viewing schedule is currently as follows:

Skip Bleach.
Watch Naruto
Skip Thundercats
Watch Samurai 7
Skip Sym-Bionic Titan
Watch Eureka 7
Watch Tenchi Muyo GXP
Skip rest of programming as I've already seen all the series and go to bed.

I have a feeling Sym-Bionic Titan and Thundercats will have staying power, so if I miss them on the first run it's not that big of a deal.

The Mega Champion
December 10th, 2012, 12:31 PM
Samurai 7 is better than ThunderCats.

Switch their times around so I can go to bed earlier.

RedJ
December 11th, 2012, 12:13 PM
For me, it's-

Bleach- skip
Naruto- skip
Thundercats- watch (as much as I don't want to)
Samurai 7- watch
Sym-Bionic Titan- watch
Eureka Seven- watch
Tenchi Muyo GXP- skip
FMA Brotherhood- watch

I go to bed after FMA:B, although now that they have Tenchi coming on before it, it's possible that I wont bother with it anymore since I've seen it already. And as much as I love FMA, I absolutely cannot stand Tenchi. It got old after the first five minutes of nothing but "LET'S INFLICT PAIN UPON THE PROTAGONIST EVERY OTHER SECOND ISN'T IT FUNNY AHAHA OH AND HERE'S SOME FANSERVICE TOO LAWL".

Thundercats...it really, REALLY wants to be good, but it's not. All of the characters except for Panthro are annoying, the voice acting is terrible and shows absolutely no emotion in the characters, and it has a nasty tendency of forgetting about the plot for several episodes and then suddenly bringing it back up after a long period of time, by which time people will have completely forgotten about it (and that's assuming people care to try to remember it in the first place). And then there's the mechs and guns that really don't belong in the show in the first place...but then that part is probably just me being so attached to the original series.

As for the funding thing, yeah, it's an issue. Not as much as it was back when it started back in May, but it's still pretty limited. The people who work on Toonami apparently don't even get paid to work on it, except for Steve Blum (voice of TOM).

FlameNinja
December 20th, 2012, 11:44 PM
Toonami is great! I wasn't able to watch much anime shows till I noticed Adult Swim was playing Bleach ^^ But they are Hilarious :D
Durarara was really good when it was on. Did anyone see Deadman Wonderland when the first season came on? Little bit gnarly but they story is good, I want to see what happens to Ganta and Shiro. Wonder if they will be showing the second season...?

ohh and forgot to say I watch them all ^^

donavannj
December 24th, 2012, 01:30 AM
Given that it's been almost 2 years since Deadman Wonderland's anime originally aired in Japan, I'd say it's safe bet that it won't be getting a second season, since the only other anime product from the Deadman Wonderland series was an OVA included with Volume 11 in Japan.

What I'd recommend doing is finding the manga somewhere and reading that, since that's the source material for the Deadman Wonderland anime. The manga also happens to still be publishing in Japan.

Weeaboo Name
December 24th, 2012, 02:10 AM
That manga is apparently still publishing although there hasn't been a new chapter in 11 months. Would not be surprised if it ends before reaching a real conclusion.

FlameNinja
December 24th, 2012, 02:27 PM
I hope that they don't completely stop the manga, and are just in hiatus or whatever, because I really want to know what is going to happen!!
I will have to go on a manga hunt to find Deadman Wonderland, so at least I will get a little more of the story :D haha

Cubera
December 24th, 2012, 05:40 PM
i mis toonami havent seen much of anything from there in awile

Kawaii Pikachu :3
January 13th, 2013, 12:46 AM
I'm addicted to:

Bleach
Eureaka 7
Tenchi GXP (I also loved the original Tenchi Muyo!)

I love Naruto but these are all the episodes from the first season. I've already seen them and if I want to watch them again I'll get out the box sets.

I am so mad that they sold Naruto Shippuden to Disney!!!!!!! *puffy face* I don't get Disney XD so I don't get to watch them T.T I have to wait for the box sets to come out or watch them online.

I've seen all of the FMA: Brotherhood and the original FMA so I skip them.

Samurai 7 I watch but I have the series so it's like "eh if I miss it I'll catch it later."

Thundercats is ok. I watch it when I am bored. Same with SB Titan.

I then go to bed lol I don't stay up for the others. The only other one I'd stay up to watch would be Inuyasha but, again, I have the series so I can watch them whenever.

I do miss Durarara. It was awesome!

Deadman Wonderland was ok. I watched it and it made me curious as to what would happen next but I ended up missing a lot of episodes due to work T.T

voicerocker
February 3rd, 2013, 01:54 AM
The replacement for Samurai 7 has been revealed / leaked and has been confirmed by toonami.tumblr.com!

http://fluffyghost.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/soul-eart.png?w=263

Soul Eater is coming to Toonami starting February 16th!

Livewire
February 3rd, 2013, 09:53 AM
I wish they' throw a little Code Geass in there, but that lineup works for me. Not really feeling the dub for the new Bleach, though. :/

hughes
February 3rd, 2013, 04:58 PM
I watch Naruto mainly. I've seen FMAB, Cowboy Bebop, and some of Inuyasha, so I'm not really concerned with missing those (plus I have work in the mornings so it's not ideal to stay up too late). I sometimes watch Thundercats. I haven't seen Soul Eater before, so I might start watching it to see what the obsession's about.

awolfsquared
February 3rd, 2013, 05:07 PM
I'm pretty excited to hear Soul Eater's coming to Toonami. I haven't finished the series yet and with it being on TV I just might.

antemortem
February 3rd, 2013, 07:27 PM
Soul Eater on Toonami? That sure is exciting. I don't tend to watch Toonami often, but that might coerce me into doing so...

Ryoutarou
February 3rd, 2013, 09:51 PM
We're never going to get Tiger and Bunny there, are we? D: Ah well, Soul Eater's pretty cool from what I've seen of it. Definitely seems like a show capable of attracting the typical Toonami crowd.

donavannj
February 4th, 2013, 12:13 AM
The replacement for Samurai 7 has been revealed / leaked and has been confirmed by toonami.tumblr.com!

http://fluffyghost.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/soul-eart.png?w=263

Soul Eater is coming to Toonami starting February 16th!

This is actually something I've been interested in giving a shot for a while. This will probably be a good way to go about watching it!

I wish they' throw a little Code Geass in there, but that lineup works for me. Not really feeling the dub for the new Bleach, though. :/

I don't think that'll be possible for a while. Bandai Entertainment has been in full retraction mode since early last year within North America, and I doubt they'll be selling the licensing rights for a show as popular as Code Geass for a price low enough for Toonami to be able to afford airing it.

We're never going to get Tiger and Bunny there, are we? D: Ah well, Soul Eater's pretty cool from what I've seen of it. Definitely seems like a show capable of attracting the typical Toonami crowd.

Probably not until we generate even higher ratings for Toonami, unfortunately.

The Mega Champion
February 4th, 2013, 12:32 PM
Wow really?

They have TERRIBLE timing.

I already started watching Soul Eater on my own because they took WAY to long to realize that they should air it.

I'm not going to stop watching it just because it's airing on TV now. I've already watched 16 episodes anyway.

I'm not saying I won't watch it on TV, I will. I'm just not going to stop watching it via other means as well. Basically... I'll be watching it twice as much. One episode on Adult Swim/Toonami and 4 episodes via other means.

The only people you can blame is Adult Swim/Toonami for taking this long to realize they should air it.

=/

Sweets Witch
February 4th, 2013, 03:20 PM
That manga is apparently still publishing although there hasn't been a new chapter in 11 months. Would not be surprised if it ends before reaching a real conclusion.

It's actually coming back this month (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-12-26/deadman-wonderland-manga-to-return-from-hiatus). It's been on hiatus for so long because one of the production members had a baby. There's not too much left to resolve, so I wouldn't be surprised if the final arc was only one volume long.

All they really need to do is permanently kill off Hagire-Toto and do something with the Mother Goose system. Either Shiro will go back to normal or Ganta will kill her. I'm fine with either.

voicerocker
February 10th, 2013, 08:35 AM
Aniplex USA has started a poll on their Facebook page asking people which of their titles they'd like to see on Toonami.

Link: https://www.facebook.com/questions/598214373525845/

So far, the most voted shows are Madoka Magica, Fate/Zero, and Gurren Lagann.

Fate/Zero looks like it would be a good show. And I still think that Gurren Lagann is one of the shows that HAS to be on Toonami as some point.

Madoka Magica though...I say no. A show filled with cutesy moe girls isn't going to keep [adult swim]'s casual audience around.

antemortem
February 10th, 2013, 08:59 AM
Madoka Magica though...I say no. A show filled with cutesy moe girls isn't going to keep [adult swim]'s casual audience around.
Do you remember Super Milk Chan (http://www.pokecommunity.com/www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIVxs9KGfgM)'s debut on Adult Swim in 2004? If something as girly and outrageously stupid as that wasn't a flop, an actual anime like Madoka Magica wouldn't be any more of one. I would actually enjoy being able to watch it on television, along with Fate/Zero, one I haven't seen. Actually, I'm not sure I'd be opposed to bringing any anime into the Toonami block. Bring on all the animu!

voicerocker
February 10th, 2013, 12:19 PM
Do you remember Super Milk Chan (http://www.pokecommunity.com/www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIVxs9KGfgM)'s debut on Adult Swim in 2004? If something as girly and outrageously stupid as that wasn't a flop, an actual anime like Madoka Magica wouldn't be any more of one. I would actually enjoy being able to watch it on television, along with Fate/Zero, one I haven't seen.

I have no idea how Super Milk Chan did in ratings back then, but that was also at a time when [adult swim] was still running anime on weeknights. Still, it was a comedy, which is [as]'s thing pretty much. But this about what is appropriate for an action cartoon block primarily aimed at the 18-34 year old male demo. Magical moe girls may appeal to hardcore otaku, but that is not Toonami's target audience.

I've heard good things about Fate/Zero, so maybe they'll pick it up one day.

Actually, I'm not sure I'd be opposed to bringing any anime into the Toonami block. Bring on all the animu!

Remember, Toonami isn't an anime block, it's an "action cartoon" block. Not all anime belongs on the block. Example: K-On. If that show were to air, there would be a huge backlash. That would be worse than when they were forced to show Hamtaro and Wulin Warriors.

antemortem
February 10th, 2013, 12:24 PM
Remember, Toonami isn't an anime block, it's an "action cartoon" block. Not all anime belongs on the block. Example: K-On. If that show were to air, there would be a huge backlash. That would be worse than when they were forced to show Hamtaro and Wulin Warriors.
Of course, and when I said that I didn't mean that any and every anime belonged, I just wouldn't be opposed to anything Toonami would bring on-board. Naturally that doesn't include anime they don't consider, and, like you said, something such as K-On! would be a huge no-no.

Ryoutarou
February 10th, 2013, 02:40 PM
I would love to see Sword Art Online during on Toonami. That seems like the sort of show you could expect to air there back when they were on in the afternoon, just aged up ever so slightly.

Sweets Witch
February 10th, 2013, 07:07 PM
Magical moe girls may appeal to hardcore otaku, but that is not Toonami's target audience.

Have you seen Madoka, though? It may be magical girls, but it's not Pretty Cure or DoReMi.

RedJ
February 10th, 2013, 07:21 PM
Fate Stay/Night, maybe, but I doubt Fate/Zero will ever be on Toonami since it's premiering on Neon Alley soon. Although I certainly wouldn't be upset if it did end up there- Aniplex isn't exactly known for putting reasonable prices on their stuff, so that'll be the only way I'd ever get to see it.

voicerocker
February 10th, 2013, 10:12 PM
Have you seen Madoka, though? It may be magical girls, but it's not Pretty Cure or DoReMi.

I haven't seen it, but I've read enough about it. I know it's really dark, but the cutesy designs of the characters aren't going to fit in well. (I was told the show isn't even all that violent.) This is the network that has aired Cowboy Bebop for over 10 years. I really can't see them picking Madoka up.

DarkRisingGirl
February 10th, 2013, 10:19 PM
In my opinion,Toonami is coming back in a really good way. I watch all of the shows on there (Except Thundercats & Titan. They just don't interest me and seem out of place on the lineup. Although I have heard they're good). My only small dislike is Naruto coming back instead of Naruto Shippuden. Disney XD hasn't aired the show in what seems like over a year, why didn't Toonami bother getting it from them? If Toonami wants to air Naruto, why not air back to back episodes? The show is one of my favorites, but it's too slow to air one episode a week. I'd like to see Trigun & Blood Plus return, taking the place of Titan and Thundercats. Add Deathnote somewhere in there and they've got a solid lineup.

But as for shows that have never aired on Toonami that I think would be a good fit, I'd pick the following: Hell Girl, Sword Art Online, uhhhh...Fairytale?(Never saw it but I know ppl who rage over it as being a very good show, so I'd like to check it out myself on TV), and possibly the Devil May Cry anime? Seriously, since the anime network channel is gone from Verizon Fios TV, I miss that show a lot. I'd like watching that and Blood Plus back to back during later hours.

But yea, Woo Toonami!

Sweets Witch
February 10th, 2013, 10:48 PM
I haven't seen it, but I've read enough about it. I know it's really dark, but the cutesy designs of the characters aren't going to fit in well. (I was told the show isn't even all that violent.) This is the network that has aired Cowboy Bebop for over 10 years. I really can't see them picking Madoka up.

Madoka would pick up and hold a better crowd than Thundercats could because Madoka's already got an established fanbase who would watch it because, as said earlier, Aniplex overprices their stuff by an insane amount. As for the violence, there's a major character death 3 episodes in (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKx3d_RlGnI) as well as various other fights/deaths sprinkled throughout. While not gruesome, the violence still stands.

It's entirely plausible for Toonami to pick up Madoka, especially since it's so short.

voicerocker
February 11th, 2013, 08:44 AM
In my opinion,Toonami is coming back in a really good way. I watch all of the shows on there (Except Thundercats & Titan. They just don't interest me and seem out of place on the lineup. Although I have heard they're good).

I would suggest at least giving ThunderCats and Sym-Bionic Titan a chance. ThunderCats has beautiful animation and Titan is very intense for a show originally on daytime CN. Watch the Toonami promos for both on YouTube when you get a chance.

My only small dislike is Naruto coming back instead of Naruto Shippuden. Disney XD hasn't aired the show in what seems like over a year, why didn't Toonami bother getting it from them? If Toonami wants to air Naruto, why not air back to back episodes?

According to the Toonami tumblr, Disney still owns Shippuden even though they no longer run it, so they can't get it. And running multiple episodes a night would cost more, so they can only run 1.

Madoka would pick up and hold a better crowd than Thundercats could because Madoka's already got an established fanbase who would watch it because, as said earlier, Aniplex overprices their stuff by an insane amount.

I disagree with that. ThunderCats has become one of the most popular and highest rated shows on Toonami right now, holding over 1 million viewers at 1am multiple times, and beating Naruto a few times as well.

Madoka comes across as a show made for otaku, which is why they shouldn't get it. The hardcore otaku aren't watching Toonami anyway, and even if Madoka did get picked up, I'm sure it's online somewhere already, so they're not going to wait to watch only 12 episodes over a 3 month period.

I think that's also a good reason why Naruto is probably doing so well on Toonami right now. I know a lot of the hardcore anime fans hate Naruto, but it hasn't had a bad night yet.

Sweets Witch
February 11th, 2013, 05:31 PM
I think that's also a good reason why Naruto is probably doing so well on Toonami right now. I know a lot of the hardcore anime fans hate Naruto, but it hasn't had a bad night yet.

Naruto was a really good pickup and I'm glad it's doing well. Once Bleach ends, Naruto will take over as That One Long Ongoing Series and hopefully it'll continue doing as well as it's been doing. The ratings might plummet a bit once they hit that giant patch of filler, though.

DarkRisingGirl
February 11th, 2013, 06:40 PM
Naruto was a really good pickup and I'm glad it's doing well. Once Bleach ends, Naruto will take over as That One Long Ongoing Series and hopefully it'll continue doing as well as it's been doing. The ratings might plummet a bit once they hit that giant patch of filler, though.

But unlike Bleach, all of the Naruto episodes have already aired on Toonami back in the day. I just can't see it taking Bleach's spot completely. Maybe as that long on-going series you mentioned, but I can't see it generating the same amount of appeal as Bleach. Bleach is just more fast-paced and airing new episodes on Toonami. People have seen all of the Naruto episodes a long time ago. You could say there's a newer audience now since Toonami went off the air years ago, but I think a lot of those people still tune in to Toonami every night and have seen all Naruto has to offer.

voicerocker
February 17th, 2013, 07:06 PM
Well, I gave in and watched all of Madoka Magica last night. I saw many reviews and comments say the show was overrated, but I thought it was actually very enjoyable...or as enjoyable as a depressing show like that can be! (and I thought Casshern Sins and Deadman Wonderland were depressing!)

Whoever told me there wasn't much action was wrong. I saw plenty, more in the first episode than Tenchi Muyo! GXP has had in 15 episodes. So as far as needing to have action, Madoka has it. However, I still believe the moe designs are gonna turn a lot of people off to the show that won't give it a chance, in a similar way to people who refuse to watch Sym-Bionic Titan just because it isn't an anime or doesn't look like an anime. It would be a big risk.

But, if Toonami where to pick up Madoka anyway, I'd admire them for taking that risk.

antemortem
February 18th, 2013, 08:09 AM
in a similar way to people who refuse to watch Sym-Bionic Titan just because it isn't an anime or doesn't look like an anime. It would be a big risk.
Agreed, and I am one of those people guilty of not giving Sym-Bionic Titan a fair chance because of its lack of anime-like exterior. Personally, it feels nothing different than when it was initially made for Cartoon Network - and definitely not much more successful.

Soul Eater's premiere was a huge hit with me!

voicerocker
March 10th, 2013, 01:01 PM
Toonami news from MomoCon!!

http://25.media.tumblr.com/c147148a5a65d14c33944af14cf09dc6/tumblr_mjf2jjcVZT1rvb8cmo1_500.jpg

TOM 5, new Absolution, and new logo will debut sometime in April!

New show coming at some point this year is:

http://www.animez-store.co.uk/ekmps/shops/animez/images/one-piece-poster-pirates-all-stars-1037-p.jpg

One Piece. No word yet on if it will start at Episode 1 or not.

Also, One Piece may or may not be what replaces Tenchi Muyo! GXP.

For Toonami's birthday this weekend, we get:

http://s.uvlist.net/l/y2007/02/35072.jpg

Evangelion 1.11 - You Are (Not) Alone. It will air at 1:00am after Naruto. There will also be other goodies that night.

Confirmed: Young Justice and Samurai Jack will NOT be airing on Toonami.

Shows also mentioned, possibly for consideration later on: Samurai Champloo, Panty & Stocking, and Sailor Moon 2013.

The Mega Champion
March 11th, 2013, 11:28 AM
You mean Adult Swim are ACTUALLY making good decisions now?

Oh god... I think I'm going to have a heart attack. Seriously...

Good job.

Just keep this up.

If you don't... you'll hear from me.

antemortem
March 11th, 2013, 08:06 PM
I've never been a fan of One Piece, so I'm indifferent to that. I think not showing Samurai Jack is a mistake, despite being incredibly old, but that's a personal bias because that's been a favorite of mine for yeaaaaars and would love to see it not die off from television quite yet.

voicerocker
March 27th, 2013, 10:16 AM
APRIL 27th

The Toonami crew has revealed that April 27th will be the debut of TOM 5, the new Absolution and the new on-air look for Toonami.

They also made this little announcement:

http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/6/8130l.jpg

They managed to find a way to bring back IGPX, and it will begin airing that same night! They had mentioned previously that IGPX had been written off by Cartoon Network which would prevent them from being about to air it again. However (I'm guessing because CN and Toonami actually created the show) they managed get the rights back.

The plan seems to be to remove one of the Cowboy Bebop episodes to make room for IGPX. And it seems that this is NOT the replacement for Tenchi Muyo! GXP either, so something else may be coming too, in addition to One Piece.