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Squirrel
February 6th, 2013, 05:53 AM
Fan service (elements of an anime/manga placed intentionally to peak the audience's interests whilst not necessarily helping the plot) can come in many different forms, ie violence or epic battle scenes, but is most commonly delivered through sexual means. The rate of fan service is only on the rise so they must be doing something right, but what do you think about the sexual themes appearing in anime after anime? Would you watch them as much without the added fan service or are you still waiting for that female protagonist who's back wouldn't break?

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KriegStein
February 6th, 2013, 06:14 AM
Hmmm. I currently watch Highschool of the dead. And like most may know, it contains a lot of fan service. Mostly sexual. I dont mind if anime has a little fan service...but it has to be so that it doesnt interruot the action all the time.(fan service cant be the main point in anime) Like in highscool of the dead... I mean I enjoy the show alot, but it could be even better if it could take things seriously for awhile. And I mean serious by NOT flashing panties in every 5 seconds. Although I must admit...it newer bothered me while watching the show. But you know.. It could have been something more. Another animeI recall that has some fan service is Black Lagoon. (Yeah I like mindless action sometimes) In this show the fan service was more subtle. Atleast a little. There werent many panty shots but the female characters did wear very little clothing. It might affect a little that this show was made for matured audience who likes action. It could affect the fan service type. I mean guns and drinks appeared as they are in real life. Also the action was ridiculous at times. I think that was Partly intentional fan service. And finaly I will mention Great Teacher Onizuka. Here the fan service is used for mostly humor purposes. And it actualy fits onizukas style. This is what I think. :D

Lance
February 6th, 2013, 08:12 AM
Best fanservice award goes to Code Geass, with Kallen Kouzuki, CC, Nina, and Shirley running around either completely naked or in a skimpy outfits, or other more R-rated things in Nina's case. >:D

Geass confirmed for best anime ever.

.EJ
February 6th, 2013, 09:00 AM
Personally, fan-service doesn't bother me cuz I'm a guy but seriously...sometimes shows take themselves a bit too seriously and fan-service is the easiest way to mellow out and let us relax from the plot and/or action haha

Best fanservice award goes to Code Geass, with Kallen Kouzuki, CC, Nina, and Shirley running around either completely naked or in a skimpy outfits, or other more R-rated things in Nina's case. >:D

Geass confirmed for best anime ever.

awyeaaaahhhhhhhhhhh.
implying CC isn't my favorite female anime character

antemortem
February 6th, 2013, 01:53 PM
Best fanservice award goes to Code Geass
oh my god

I despise fan service. I can't think of a lot of examples, but the fact ninety percent of the girls in Vividred Operation were clad in basically nothing but a t-shirt and panties feels super unnecessary to me. The same goes for Maou from Maoyuu Maou Yuusha, basically all the female characters from Bleach, and Tsunade from Naruto. Why are your breasts so enormous? It just made characters like Jiraiya (Naruto) more hound dog-ish than they needed to be.
(http://myanimelist.net/anime/14833/Maoyuu_Maou_Yuusha)

Cordelia
February 6th, 2013, 02:02 PM
I don't mind fan service at all, but sometimes a bit much is a bit much. Most of the time though, I'm a fan.

Sweets Witch
February 6th, 2013, 02:39 PM
I don't mind fanservice because it's extremely tame in comparison to what fans draw. There is so much bad pornography based on pretty much every anime series that it makes the potential fanservice in it look like nothing. Doesn't mean that all fanservice is necessary, though.

The same goes for Maou from Maoyuu Maou Yuusha,

I'm extremely glad that someone brought this up because Maoyuu Maou Yuusha is a perfect example of unnecessary fanservice. The show itself lays the foundation for a nice lesson in economics a la Spice & Wolf, but Maou's chest is talked about almost as much as the actual plot.

CarcharOdin
February 6th, 2013, 05:48 PM
I don't mind it really. Pretty much for the same reason Sweet Witch gave, but I know there's a fair amount of good pornography for pretty much every anime series as well.

Unfortunately, like most porn on the internet, the bad generally outweighs the good.

Patrick
February 6th, 2013, 06:45 PM
Are we talking about fan service in the absolute general sense, or just cheesecake? I mean, I like fan service in the sense that we're talking about mythology gags, references to historical bits and whatever else, but even a person can overdo that. It's especially worse when the fan service in question falls flat (or, in another case, is handled by someone totally different from the context of the original, which is something I see a lot of in the modern Simpsons, for example (why do I still watch that show, I wonder?)).

Unfortunately I can't think of any anime versions of that, considering I don't watch a whole lot of anime to begin with, but I know some western cartoons like to do a lot of referencial fan service. Games, too, but this isn't the video game section.

Mochi
February 6th, 2013, 08:06 PM
Fan service can get to be really annoying after a while.

I mean, my first anime was Tenchi Muyo! and with it being a harem and all, it was loaded with fan service that was heavily edited in the Toonami release.

Most of the time though it doesn't add anything to the plot and is purely eye candy, but I don't really watch the type of anime that it's common in. I've never been into the slice-of-life anime, but in the more mecha/sci-fi anime, women in skimpy outfits seems to be the norm in those universes so... there's kind of a difference between their general outfit and blatant panty up-shots :p

Don't even get me started on Sora no Otoshimono.

antemortem
February 6th, 2013, 09:19 PM
Most of the time though it doesn't add anything to the plot and is purely eye candyIt never really adds anything to the plot! XD
blatant panty up-shots :p
Like one of the very first shots of Vividred Operation. I mean, come on, you're already offering fan service in the form of the least amount of clothing possible on each character, need you go the extra mile by taking such angles? As appealing as it may or may not be, it certainly is unnecessary.
Sora no Otoshimono
Fan service overload! I think one of the least fan service'd anime I've ever seen is Inuyasha. Even with the amount of woman that are supposed to be physically appealing, their designs weren't overdone in any particular fashion, and are thus much more respectable. You know, characters like Sango, who is attractive to most minor characters that are introduced.

Mochi
February 6th, 2013, 09:39 PM
Like one of the very first shots of Vividred Operation. I mean, come on, you're already offering fan service in the form of the least amount of clothing possible on each character, need you go the extra mile by taking such angles? As appealing as it may or may not be, it certainly is unnecessary.

Yeah!! They take it too far most of the time. I mean, like I said before if it's part of the character design then they usually don't go out of their way for the fan service because it's already in your face. When they do those panty up-shots it's like, is that really so necessary...


Fan service overload! I think one of the least fan service'd anime I've ever seen is Inuyasha. Even with the amount of woman that are supposed to be physically appealing, their designs weren't overdone in any particular fashion, and are thus much more respectable. You know, characters like Sango, who is attractive to most minor characters that are introduced.
It's so ironic that you mentioned Inuyasha because I'm going to start watching it soon with my friend. I never got into before but from what I did see I knew it didn't have a lot of fan service, even with Miroku being the way he is and a main character to boot. I'm a really big Sailor Moon fan, and although the Sailor Scouts were pretty skimpily clad, they never really had a lot of fan service. One moment that does stand out though is when Sailor Moon, Mercury, and Jupiter are trying to squeeze through a doorway and Moon knocks Jupiter over, and Mercury is standing behind her with huge eyes and a super red face because she's getting quite the view, if you know what I mean lol :p

Esper
February 7th, 2013, 10:03 AM
My rule of thumb is that if I don't notice it it's not bad.

I haven't watched anime in a while because ones I try to watch start get bogged down with fanservice. And I'm not just talking about sexual kind, but the kind where (oh geez, how do I describe this?) you get these overdone tropes that are clearly meant to appeal to fans (like that moe stuff) and when they do fit in with the plot it's seemingly because they've engineered the entire plot to include fanservice.

It's annoying outside of anime, too. Like when you watch a normal television series and it's around Christmas time of course you have to have a Christmas episode and someone learns the importance of believing in miracles. :|

Yeah, I guess I'm in the 'against' camp.

Ephemeral Euphoria
February 7th, 2013, 10:17 AM
Best fanservice award goes to Code Geass.

Aki Sora would like to have a word with you good sir.

Squirrel
February 8th, 2013, 03:58 AM
Personally I don't like this specific kind of fan service much at all, it tends to ruin a great story when it's a serious scene and the main protagonist's breasts are happily bobbing around in the background! It's not always a bad thing since it can definitely make things a lot more light hearted when used correctly, but I think it should be cut waaaay back for the majority of anime since it seems to be going a little overboard in recent times. When I'm watching an anime and trying to get involved with the story/characters, I don't want to be picturing her in her underwear lmao. Although I don't say no to the countless cute male protagonists.

Pinkie-Dawn
February 8th, 2013, 07:02 AM
Fanservice can either make or break an anime. Sometimes, fanservice is the main aspect for a comedy-based show that doesn't take itself seriously, but it can also be used for relaxation after a big event from a more serious show. If a show tries to take itself seriously but tries to slap in fanservice scenes all over it (Ikkitousen is guilty of this), then it's a recipe for disaster. Also, women with breasts that defy the laws of physics aren't all that beautiful.

Toutebelle
February 26th, 2013, 09:26 AM
Fanservice is good in small doses, but sometimes it can go overboard. I hate it when every attractive female is wearing practically nothing. Fantasy games are even bigger offenders than anime series - most of them include bikini armor for their female characters (though at least you don't have to make your female characters wear it).

Mr. Downstairs
February 26th, 2013, 10:15 AM
Honestly, I hardly notice fan service. I would be watching an anime and people would tell me that there's a bunch of fan service in it and chances are, I wouldn't have noticed at all until after they said that to me. Even if it contains a ton of fan service in it, I probably wouldn't notice it. Great example would be Shuffle and High School of the Dead. That said, I'm not bothered by fan service. I'm pretty indifferent to it, though, even though I'm a guy. Sexual scenes in an anime don't really do anything for me.

TRIFORCE89
February 26th, 2013, 12:13 PM
I don't mind it, but I'm not a fan of it because it isn't necessary. And if it isn't necessary, then it is a waste of time.

Mr Cat Dog
March 20th, 2013, 03:56 AM
Fan service (elements of an anime/manga placed intentionally to peak the audience's interests whilst not necessarily helping the plot) can come in many different forms, ie violence or epic battle scenes, but is most commonly delivered through sexual means.

I'm really not a fan of this at all. I'm glad that the anime that I've watched (which is admittedly a very small sample) has either minimal fan service (I guess Faye in Cowboy Bebop) or has used it as a comedic device to comment on its own ridiculousness (FLCL). If the same costume choices and camera angles were used in live-action programs, there'd inevitably be so much more public outrage and complaint, but because it's animation (and animation from Japan, at that rate), it seems to get a blanket seal of approval from the fanbase which just strikes me as weird. Most of it is a cultural thing, obviosuly, but it really annoys me when similar things are done in live-action properties (i.e. Megan Fox in Transformers) so I'd probably stop watchin an anime that relied too heavily on fan service.

Weeaboo Name
March 20th, 2013, 05:14 AM
>If the same costume choices and camera angles were used in live-action programs, there'd inevitably be so much more public outrage and complaint.

Would there? I don't think so.

Western media is just as full as fanservice as those crazy Malaysian cartoons. Ok, there aren't many live action shows that consist of guys tripping and faceplanting the crotch of highschool girl alien wearing a short skirt but it's still everywhere.

>but because it's animation (and animation from Japan, at that rate), it seems to get a blanket seal of approval from the fanbase

Some fans go into a show for it but I'm presuming most, like myself, most just realise it's always been there and always will and that Complaining about is pointless.

Altairis
March 20th, 2013, 09:30 PM
It annoys me in Fairy Tail (the only anime that does it rly that I watch anyway) because the girls always have either huge or no breasts and it's clearly only because of fanservice, the smaller girls have pointed this out on a couple occasions actually. It's just annoying because the manga is written for boys who seem to mostly care about big boobs than romance. (there's that forced romantic subplot, and then the obvious romance that is only being avoided because the writer doesn't want to write it in, but the two characters obviously like each other). I think I explained that alright!

I knew I was forgetting something!! in tengen toppa gurren lagann there's a character who's literally just wearing a bathing suit the entire time, she says "It's easier to fight without lots of clothing" but it's clearly just fanservice... it's a good anime but her standing there seriously just throws me off sometimes because she can't be serious can she? apparantly so.

Satoshi Ookami
March 21st, 2013, 07:40 AM
I don't really mind fan service if the story can beat it and fan service is not the most important thing and the thing that is anime focused on. (Yeah, I do watch those kind of anime as well... but only if I need to clear head).
Overally, I don't mind fan service much if it's not overdone.
And I know that the trend of putting more and more fan service won't stop so there's nothing to do.

Lilith
March 23rd, 2013, 03:23 PM
If it's a good anime like Code Geass or Gurren Lagann, I'll watch it regardless of the amount of fanservice or scantily clad females. I can make exceptions. I mean, I really enjoyed watching Panty and Stocking too. XD; I would rather not have it on my screen, though. Why aren't fictional characters fighting, manipulating each other, using their powers, or dying enough?!

Magykx
March 23rd, 2013, 04:57 PM
Fan service doesn't bother me. In some animes such as Highschool of the Dead, where the amount of fan service is ridiculous, I find it funny.

Xrock
March 24th, 2013, 12:52 PM
Fan Service either bothers me or humors me. For example, in Highschool of the Dead, it became really irritating because there were so much and i actually enjoyed the action and plot of the anime.

Satoshi Ookami
March 24th, 2013, 10:35 PM
Why aren't fictional characters fighting, manipulating each other, using their powers, or dying enough?!
Probably people need to fap while seeing it... hard to answer...
And as for Gurren Lagan... it's Gainax :D We couldn't have expected anything else xD

LiteSandwich
March 29th, 2013, 09:57 AM
The only time i appreciated the fan service was during Great Teacher Onizuka,where comical wise,it had me laughing for minutes Xd. Any other time it seems unnecessary to me *cough* Queen's Blade *cough*

Scarlet Rhapsody
March 29th, 2013, 10:38 AM
In the past, fanservice used to bother me quite a bit and is the reason why I dropped a few anime within a couple of episodes. Now it doesn't bother me all that much as long as it doesn't get in the way of the action or story.

ZetaZaku
April 4th, 2013, 03:57 PM
I don't really mind fanservice if it's not overboard or lame. I'm talking about fanservice in normal shows, as talking about fanservice in a show like Highschool of the Dead or Manyuu Hikenchou is pointless. Example: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure had a bit of it in that episode when Lisa Lisa takes a bath. She spent the rest of the episode with a towel. It was done nicely and didn't ruin the episode. On the other hand, I barely finished some Code Geass episodes because of fanservice. Why? Because it was cheap and wasn't done with style. "Look! A waterfall! I'm a girl so I must take a shower *takes of clothes*. I really liked Kallen in the first season, but as the show went on, I started disliking her because they ruined her character. She was nothing more than a character whose purpose was showing some T&A.

Rai
April 4th, 2013, 04:04 PM
It depends on the anime. I think High School of The Dead is just ridiculous. But if an anime is good overall, I can usually look past the fan service.

Rosario + Vampire is one of my favorite animes (although I like the manga better) and it has tons of fan service. But it doesn't take away anything from the anime in my opinion. It is just kind of there. Sometimes it can be really funny or add to the humor. I honestly wish were less of it, but I love the characters in Rosario so much that I can look past it.

AWsquared
April 4th, 2013, 04:48 PM
I don't mind fan service as long as it's not excessive. There's some anime where the artist just throws it in for no reason and it just ruins a good plot sometimes (Any thing by Ken Akamatsu seems to do that alot.) If the fan service doesn't ruin the story, then I'm fine with it.

Kotowari
April 7th, 2013, 03:38 AM
Now you all seem to be implying that fanservice solely exists for the male audience... It also exists for the female-aimed series, although it's less "panty-in-your-face", but more "sparkly-bishounen-with-his-chest-bared-at-any-given-moment-getting-very-close-with-another-male-of-the-same-kind".

That said, I'm not the kind of girl who enjoys in-your-face fanservice.
In fact, of the shounen series that I watched, it actually annoyed me when another character with huge wiggly boobs came on or when the viewer is treated to another gratuitous panty shot for no reason at all. And that's also the case for the female-targeted series. I'm not a fan of BL (just don't like it) and I regret to say that a lot of series tend to drop hints and shots just about everywhere, which makes me feel kind of uncomfortable.

What I do like, however, is the more subtle fanservice and that mostly means the artstyle. Hakuouki is one example of what I like for in a series: Strong story, very strong characters and very nice artwork (all main characters are pretty and handsome... haha |D;;) I'm a sucker for artwork and for me, that's enough of a reason to watch or not watch a series. So yeah, scenery pr0n, as one might call it, is more fanservice for me thnt gratuitous shots of certain (un)covered bodyparts.


My main oppinion: fanservice should not go at the cost of the story and character development. And it should not take away from the atmosphere (unless it's used for gags in an hilarious moment).

One example of a big-breasted girl done right, is Kanade from Chihayafuru. One person makes a comment about how her chest should weigh her down and limit her speed and agility in Karuta. And she replies that a hakama/kimono is perfect to wear with a big chest, and doesn't limit her at all.

GarlandDaHero
April 7th, 2013, 04:43 AM
Bleh.

I'm kinda iffy about fan service. I've read the first four volumes of Fullmetal Alchemist, and the fan service is moderately low, with the character Lust providing the most within those volumes.

It really depends on the mood I'm in whether I like fan service or not.

antemortem
April 7th, 2013, 05:40 AM
Rosario + Vampire is one of my favorite animes (although I like the manga better) and it has tons of fan service. But it doesn't take away anything from the anime in my opinion. It is just kind of there. Sometimes it can be really funny or add to the humor. I honestly wish were less of it, but I love the characters in Rosario so much that I can look past it.
Well, it's not that fan service really ruins or takes away anything from an anime in particular, it's just that it seems unnecessary to some people because the anime does a fine job doing what it does and would continue to do so without the additional fan service. At least, that's how I feel about it. No anime has ever been ruined by fan service to me, just played up far too much.

Rai
April 7th, 2013, 11:35 AM
I agree that it can be unnecessarily and it usually doesn't ruin the anime.

But then there's High School of The Dead... that anime was ruined for me because of the fan service. It is so over-the-top, unnecessary and ridiculous that I can't even sit through a few minutes of it. But this isn't true for most animes I have watched.