Hiphop= Cool

[dver]

Is Hip hop cool or not
I think it is cool
just say why

And which Mc/Rapper is cool

[Dark Sora]

This thread gives me a bad feelings. Makes me feel like it might start flaming! Anyways hiphop is the coolest. I grew up to it.

[marillmonster2000]

Urg...Must...Resist...Flaming...*Goes And Flames Into A Pillow*
Ok, Now That's Out Of My System, I Don't Like Hip Hop.It's...Excuse Me.*Goes And Flames Into Pillow Some More* I Voted Cool, Because I Though It Said Hopip, Like The Pokemon.But Now I Can't Change It T_T

[KLS]

Hip Hop is awesome period.
No reason, it just is.

[marillmonster2000]

Gee, How Convincing.
That Is Your Opinion.
What More Is Rap Than People Talking?It's Just Nursery Rhymes To Me.

[KLS]

Gee, How Convincing.
That Is Your Opinion.
What More Is Rap Than People Talking?It's Just Nursery Rhymes To Me.

Please don't insult rap ever again, that is also your opinion, it's not nursery rhymes... do you know how many people died for the sake of changing rap, 2Pac, Biggie, Jam Master Jay, and much much more.
so please, don't EVER insult rap. They are not nursery rhymes, they are a part of our history...

[Dark Sora]

Dont insult rap >< This is exactly why I said this should be closed ><

Rap is apart of our history. Like KLS said, people died for the sake of it. This is how important it is. Even though rap can do some bad things, sometimes, this end up being better than it was before, because of rap.

[KLS]

Exactly, insulting rap is like slapping america and all of it's loyal fans.

[Ryoutarou]

Gee, How Convincing.
That Is Your Opinion.
What More Is Rap Than People Talking?It's Just Nursery Rhymes To Me.
If you look at it that way, all music is nuresy rhymes as you call it. Which is just untrue. And people didn't die for the sake of rap, they died because they got caught up in drug wars, and cared about their "reputation" which is why people like Biggie and Tupac aren't here today.

As for the subect, I really don't like many of the artist out there today, maybe just Jurassic 5, Telopop Musaq, and De LA Soul. I don't actually know much from the early 90s aside from NWO and Tupac, so I can't comment on that era of the genere. But as for today's stuff I'm frankly more into the underground stuff then mainstream.

[jasonresno]

*puts on gloves, kneepads, a helmet, a bullet proof vest and some shin guards*

Hip hop is not my cup of tea (that better?)

[Ryoutarou]

Any reason to back that up? And don't say it's just because of it all being about sex drugs and money which I'll admit a good deal of it is. But if you try and listen to a entire album from Jurassic 5 and still don't like it then I can't argue with you about it, cause if they won't get you to like it nothing will.

I like hip-hop and rock just just about the same, I like artist like guns N' Roses and the Ramons just as I like people like Tupac and Dre.

[jasonresno]

OK, the reason I do not like Hip Hop/Rap is as follows:

1)Rapping is a form of singing, so the "oh its just talking" isn't a valid argument, so I'm not going to use it.

2)I'm not in the whole cussing, drugs+money+sex+girls type of songs. And I'm not too keen on slang. I tend to go for the heavy lyriced rock/punk song over the prototypical rap/hiphop song.

3)I hate when my favorite bands are insulted, so I'm not going to insult your favorites they are probably great in your opinion. Just not my cup of tea. And I don't like the fact that hip hop/rap really doesn't use instruments...that just doesn't seem right :/

4)I don't like the crowd associated with rap/hip hop around where I live. If you listen to rap and hip hop here you are a gangsta, and that just isn't my image.

5)my last point. Not all rap and hip hop is about drugs/sex/money/violence, I looked up Jurrassic 5 and they are something good for the genre, break the prototypical gangster rapper.
Good nuff?

[[Technya]]

Okay this is getting rather ridiculous. I for one am not gonna bash those who love rap/hip hop or whatever else you guys listen to. As you should all have seen from "What are you listening to." You should know my genre of music. marillmonster2000 and jasonresno that was wrong of you to just go about and insulting their taste in music. It's not my taste in music but I refuse to bash those who like it unless they bash me first. If you don't like hip hop then stay away from this thread, simple as that.

[jasonresno]

Shadow, read my second post I think I backed myself and my thinking rather nicely and I was being subjective and fair.

[[Technya]]

Shadow, read my second post I think I backed myself and my thinking rather nicely and I was being subjective and fair.
My apologizes(sp) yes, you were quite fair. Again, I'm sorry. I overlooked it.

[jasonresno]

No problem, and I edited my first one so as nobody gets confused.

[Ryoutarou]

I guess it's how one can generalize Rock into nothing but screaming. And of course we know that's not the case. Hip-Hop took a turn right after NWA came out and was real with the bad side of living and all, then many more followed and while we still got good rhymes from the likes of Tribe Called Quest, it gradually evolved into what we have now.

The problem is that emcees can flow about killing and get money for it, and people are excepting it. So as long as this method of making money works, these late emcees will continue this pattern. Probally scared to be diverse and change, with fear of backlash or whatnot. Not wanting to ruin the resume they made for themselves. Basically digging the hole that they forced themself into.

The Old School style in the eighties and early nineties was great. I still recall Rakim's "Go See the Doctor", telling people in this great rhyme to be careful who you sleep with. But nowadays the main public is getting fed on how good it felt when [insert] got his [insert] sucked. What a huge turn.

There is still good artists out there, but they're sadly being shoved away without a say by what the main public is able to see when they switch on MTV. Doubt I'll see De La Soul on MTV anytime soon.

I think one of the problems with a lot of rap is that the DJ is being forced to pull too much of the weight for too little of the credit. Think about it-- in your average rock band, the singer may be the centerpiece (although the guitarist often challenges that role), but he's got a good three or four guys at least backing him up on the instrumentals. In rap, all too often a single DJ is expected to provide all of the rhythm and melody that you'd normally need a drummer, bassist, guitarist, etc. to provide, with predictable results: stale, repetitive instrumentals caused by one guy trying to do too much. (Obviously there are exceptions to this, rap bands like The Roots in which the instrumentals include several live instruments, but I'm just speaking in general.)
Hate to keep tooting their horn, but I think this is a big reason that Jurassic 5 is so great. With two DJs, they can work some actual old-school-style scratching in there instead of just the same old looping beats. It keeps things fresh and interesting. I think one of the marks of a great hip-hop group is when you can hear an instrumental version of one of their songs and never get bored.
Heck, what HAPPENED to scratching in hip-hop? It used to be almost as big a part of the music as the rapping, the hip-hop equivalent of rock's guitar solos, but nowadays all the attention goes to the MCs and you're more likely to hear a nice DJ scratch solo in a metal song than a hip-hop song, at least on the radio.
I used to love rap and r&b. Dru Hill (older stuff), Blackstreet, 112 (the older stuff), 2Pac, BIG, Jermaine Dupri were some of my favorite artists. I don't know what happened but I can't stand most of that music now.

to make money, music has to be mainstream. to be mainstream, music has to have cheesy, repetitive lyrics. the question I'd like to ask is how do usher and a lot of rappers get bashed so much when everybody seems to love green day? green day is as popular as ever with their worst album ever... "I walk alone I walk alone I walk alone I walk alone"... how many times is that repeated?No offense to anyone, but I use to be an avid fan of greenday and I just think their current album is so cliche, so once again sorry if I offened anyone. The rap that's getting attention is the worst rap out there. it's the same with all music. originality and creativity usually don't make it to MTV. they look for what's catchy. (like the flavor of the week Lindsay Lohan, with possibly the worst two singles I've ever heard in my life)


Mainstream rap is to good rap as Taco Bell is to homemade Mexican food made by a nice grandmotherly old lady who's been perfecting her cooking technique for a good forty years or so.

Now, if you've listened to Jurassic 5's "Quality Control" or Deltron 3030's self-titled and you STILL profess to dislike rap, there's no hope for a reconciliation between you and the genre. I've seen it happen. But I've seen someone's mind get changed after finally being exposed to quality much more often.

Sorry if any of that post offended anyone....Holy crap I write a lot x_X;

[jasonresno]

Yeah, no offense to anyone here but I see alot of late coming groupies to Green Day. I think the new flood of Green Day fans are the ones who are impressed by how they look and their mtv apperences. When I see "MY FAVORITE BANDS: SIMPLE PLAN, GOOD CHARLOTTE, GREEN DAY"(and im not making fun of people that like them, im just saying your usual hardcore green day fan doesn't listen to s p and good charlotte, no offense intended) that makes me chuckle, seeing as without the American Idiot album these fans wouldn't be fans at all.

But yeah, I've been a GD fan for, ever I think...but yeah Blvd of broken dreams is not their best work, check out homecoming or jesus of suburbia. a freaking rock opera right there.

And yes, most people underestimate the ability to rap. To be able to keep a beat and people entertained with just your voice is hard, and I'm not underscoring rappers for that. I just like a difficult guitar solo/drum solo/lyrical adventure. And that is what I get with the bands I like: The Ramones
Sex Pistols
Unwritten Law
Straylight Run
Brand New
Green Day
My Chemical Romance
Bad Religion
Dropkick Murphies
Fallout Boy
Rise Against
Taking Back Sunday
The Adicts
Alkaline Trio
MXPX
Sugarcult
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Erm I don't mean to beat the dead donkey, but I don't think I have anything left to say.

[[Technya]]

Yes, good point both of you. But honestly and you know, no offense to anyone here but MTV is nothing but bull. It looks for what's "in" and tosses it aside when they hear something that's even more trendy. I recognize this as well not all rap singers are the image of drugs, sex and gangs but here where I live there's this kind of rap where all it does is bring down women as if we were sex toys, influencing teens to do drugs, sayin' how cool you look and all and it's plain gross, once again I'm sorry for insulting anyone I hate to do so, but some of the hip hop singers that my sister and brother listen to don't do that. What really ticks me off is how they insult anyone else and think they're so "cool".

I hate hip hop and rap but I have more friends that listen to that than Goth friends, but that doesn't bother me so long as they keep away with the music. But as I said before not all are bad.

[marillmonster2000]

I Didn't Insult Rap,I Just Asked A Question

[KLS]

Gee, How Convincing.
That Is Your Opinion.
What More Is Rap Than People Talking?It's Just Nursery Rhymes To Me.

"It's Just Nursery Rhymes To Me" clears it, if you truly have nothing to say about rap, then simply do not post here.

[Dark Sora]

Yes, good point both of you. But honestly and you know, no offense to anyone here but MTV is nothing but bull. It looks for what's "in" and tosses it aside when they hear something that's even more trendy. I recognize this as well not all rap singers are the image of drugs, sex and gangs but here where I live there's this kind of rap where all it does is bring down women as if we were sex toys, influencing teens to do drugs, sayin' how cool you look and all and it's plain gross, once again I'm sorry for insulting anyone I hate to do so, but some of the hip hop singers that my sister and brother listen to don't do that. What really ticks me off is how they insult anyone else and think they're so "cool".

I hate hip hop and rap but I have more friends that listen to that than Goth friends, but that doesn't bother me so long as they keep away with the music. But as I said before not all are bad.

That is comepletely TRUE. If you watch TV, right now, they always have on the crap rap. Like you said, they only have on what is 'in'. But if you watch MTV2, you'll see why there are 2 different MTVs. MTV2 is all about the music. No matter if it's 'in' or not. MTV2 is true to the music. That's why I only watch MTV2 and VH1. They're both true to the music. They put on the good rap music. I'm not surprised that you hate rap, since you watch MTV (if you do watch it). And since you only hear the crap rap, where you live in, I'm definately not surprised.

[Bobby]

Hiphop is cool, i listen to it alot lol.

[jasonresno]

That is comepletely TRUE. If you watch TV, right now, they always have on the crap rap. Like you said, they only have on what is 'in'. But if you watch MTV2, you'll see why there are 2 different MTVs. MTV2 is all about the music. No matter if it's 'in' or not. MTV2 is true to the music. That's why I only watch MTV2 and VH1. They're both true to the music. They put on the good rap music. I'm not surprised that you hate rap, since you watch MTV (if you do watch it). And since you only hear the crap rap, where you live in, I'm definately not surprised.

With the stuff on TV and the radio, how can people not hate rap? There is good stuff, j ust most normal people arent exposed to it.

[KLS]

first and foremost, people accuse me that I dislike people who don't like hip-hop but that's not entirely true, I don't mind anyone not enjoying hip-hop, but insulting hip-hop and not enjoying is another matter, what jasonresno said didn't offend me because it may offend them or may make them mad.

[BigBoss]

Rap is da best! I am HUGE fan of it, I grew up to it. XD

[^^NICK^^ v.3.0]

I like rap. I enjoy the culture and history because it comes as part of my culture and history, with me being black. I can't say I like all of the latest rap trends because I think they aren't really original, most of them. But I like it. I really enjoy the deeper rappers, like Kanye and Mos Def. Like, the poetic ones. Some really annoy me, like Lil' Scrappy, oh my God. I just got into T.I., I like his songs. I like old school, with all the B-Boy stuff, and all that. It's really interesting. Some people think rap is just talking, but it's not. If they actually tried they would see that it's pretty hard to do. Way more than talking, so I give any good rappers props for doing what they do. And hey, I could easily going around dissing rock for screaming a lot, and say all they do is scream, but i know that's not true. People should be a little more open-minded.

[_Rayquaza_Adict_]

I like Rock more, I hate Rap, I am okay with Hip-Hop

[Scyther5]

I can't stand the stuff plain and simple, but thats just me.

[Jeremy]

I like rap, sweeties. *Realizes that nobody knows I'm a trigger happy ghetto Asian Boy.* XD

[Eon-Rider]

I dont know why but I chose sux