View Full Version : Screw that, it's too damn long!

June 16th, 2013, 12:44 AM
Does excessive length in an anime/manga turn you off? Things that generally go on far too long tend to become less interesting as time goes by and that's probably true for a lot of long-running series. But what if the series actually has quantity as well as quality? Are you willing to overlook the length if the series in question is good?

Might apply to TV shows too, I guess. =p I'll answer later on. Though, seeing my favorite anime is One Piece, my answer is probably quite obvious.

June 16th, 2013, 1:57 AM
Usually lengthier anime put me off. I feel like 3 or 4 seasons is usually more than enough to convey a long story. Most shows get stale after that point and don't entertain the same way. It's why, sadly, I really can't get into long running shows like Bleach, Naruto and One Piece (even though this one was decidedly awesome in the first 4 season/arcs I bothered to watch).

I do make exceptions for good shows, and some shows are good enough that their length is irrelevant due to their inevitable variety, like Star Trek. But not all mediums of television are forgiving of repetitiveness, and animation just so happens to be one of the least forgiving when it comes to staleness.

My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic, is quickly approaching the "typical point of staleness" so I will soon see (December I believe) if the series continues on with the same originality or not. I could definitely see myself departing the fandom at S4 if it is extremely poor compared to other seasons.

This leads me on to my next point. The "Beginning" exception. I make exceptions for series that are newly assigned a long running status if I am currently watching it as it is released to the public. I find that usually the release rates are slow enough that they don't make demands on my time, so I don't have to allocate days or weeks to "catching up".

But yes, the "Catching up" problem is a huge one for me. If I cannot reasonably catch up in 1-2 days, I usually drop the show or consider myself too far behind, regardless of it's long running status.

June 16th, 2013, 2:27 AM
It definitely can be a problem, catching up with an anime/tv series that already has a lot of episodes is a pain.

I think my limit for Anime is probably over 100 episodes, way too much time to catch up on.

For some reason, I think I'm more lenient with tv-shows - maybe because each episode is longer and tends not to have 'filler' or random episodes. I remember watching four seasons of Fringe in a relatively short time.

Saying that, if I start watching a program whilst it's still airing, and it doesn't bore me, then I continue on. I'm still up to date with Naruto now (after joining somewhere around episode 80), however I'll never start One Piece as 600 episodes is far too daunting.

Purple Materia
June 16th, 2013, 3:10 AM
I got absolutely sick of Bleach after episode 100, which is why I tend to skip over ongoings.

If I really like the series and it has quite a few seasons, I'll watch them. But in general, I prefer anime with 12~20 episodes.

June 16th, 2013, 3:11 AM
huge numbers of episodes are not a huge turnoff for me since I watch Yugioh, Digimon, Naruto and Pokemon. The thing I do hate are fillers. If the fillers goes for 5-10 episodes, then I'll lose interest during that period of time and wait a few weeks until they release the full arc so I won't have to watch every week just for a useless filler. Since every episodes generally run for 22 minutes with no commercial, 5 or 10 episodes could go up to 220 minutes, which is 3 hours and 40 minutes of my time just watching fillers that won't contribute to the story. Might as well just sit down on a chair and look at my plants grow, in the end it'll be the same thing, nothing interesting will happen in both cases.

June 16th, 2013, 6:24 AM
The only long term anime I've even attempted to watch was Naruto and I quit at episode eight because I just didn't like it anyway.

I'm not enough of a major anime watcher to say I would rule out all long term shows, but the ones I have watched up to now all have less than fifty episodes.

June 16th, 2013, 6:54 AM
In the past I've seen quite some long term series, like Fairy Tail, One Piece and Naruto, but I've lost interest long ago. At least I don't watch these animes anymore, since I like watching rather short ones (well, Gintama might be an exception). I'd rather read the manga, hoping that it ends some day (like Naruto, Fairy Tail), than having to see all those fillers and battles that last about 50 episodes (might be exaggerating, a little :P).

Also most anime series, which air quite some time seem to lose most of their good looking graphics and become more and more fanservice...

Sweets Witch
June 16th, 2013, 7:12 AM
With anime it's kind of a turn-off if it's over 100 episodes. Just seeing that number of episodes is enough to put the entire series in the back of my mind and it's the reason why I haven't watched Gintama. On the plus side, excessive length means that there must be some merit to it. Despite the somewhat popular opinion, a show isn't bad because of its length. It's actually pretty stupid to say so.

The length of a manga is absolutely no problem at all, though. Manga's strange. Something like Ao no Exorcist has a bit over 40 chapters but each chapter is really long, but Toriko has over 200 and each one is pretty short. Overall it feels more rewarding to read something with shorter chapters since it feels like I'm actually accomplishing something, but I enjoy catching up with something that has longer chapters. Plus there's almost never anything that can be considered filler.

June 16th, 2013, 7:15 AM
The fact that an anime is long doesn't turn me off, but if an anime is long and it can't maintain a constant grabbing storyline, then I'll just add to my trash bin of anime's. It depends on the anime most of the time is what this all v comes down too. I will cry if an anime enjoyed a lot ends prematurely or it starts to degrade, although usually once it degrades, as far as I'm concerned it has as ended.

Prime example: Sword Art Online

June 16th, 2013, 9:29 AM
Manga's strange. Something like Ao no Exorcist has a bit over 40 chapters but each chapter is really long

Things like this are a huge turnoff for me. I just can't keep up with reading a manga when each chapter is 60-100 pages. I'm typically a short manga reader, when each chapter is, say, twenty-forty pages, as long as the chapter count is kept down a little or I'm caught up with it. As for anime... I don't really care, except in extreme cases like One Piece, something I haven't even started. It's at Episode 603 and that's something I'm just flat out disinterested in just by the episode count. I couldn't with that, aha.

Mr Cat Dog
June 16th, 2013, 10:21 AM
I don't have a lot of exposure to long-running anime, but I imagine a subconscious apprehension about their length is partially to blame for why I've never bothered to get into things like One Piece or Bleach. Where I have the biggest issue with 'long' entertainment is definitely in the case of films. For me, a film has to reeeeeeeally justify itself to be over 2 hours in length. Some films do this very well but, more often than not, I often find 2+ hour films quite indulgent.

June 16th, 2013, 10:35 AM
I think 12 or 13 episodes is a good length for an anime. Lots of 20+ episode length shows I've seen could be cut down and only be improved. Anything over 30 episodes is really pushing it as far as my attention is concerned.

June 16th, 2013, 12:15 PM
I picked up One Piece while 500 episode were already out and since it peak my interest during the first couple of story arcs i didn't let the amount of episode scare me off. I think being open minded is always a good think because if you count off an anime or any sort of tv show because it's too long you might miss out on something great.

Although some shows do push it, and always leave you wondering why certain things were spread across a million episode (DBZ is an example of this but we were young and didn't mind at the time)

June 16th, 2013, 2:03 PM
I don't have a lot of exposure to long-running anime, but I imagine a subconscious apprehension about their length is partially to blame for why I've never bothered to get into things like One Piece or Bleach. Where I have the biggest issue with 'long' entertainment is definitely in the case of films. For me, a film has to reeeeeeeally justify itself to be over 2 hours in length. Some films do this very well but, more often than not, I often find 2+ hour films quite indulgent.
Same here. I'm still trying to get through the 200+ episodes of the first Yu-Gi-Oh! anime, let alone the others.
The fact that there is a Season 0 of Yu-Gi-Oh! (that I'm not done watching yet) just makes it worse.

I cannot watch movies. I just can't. Anything longer than 30 minutes will never grab my attention.
I did watch 3 movies yesterday, but mainly because it's my "homework" as a language student. I had to fast-forward through most of the movies though.
And the whole time I just felt like yelling "But get to the freaking point already..."

June 16th, 2013, 3:20 PM
When something's good, I never want it to end. In t.v, the fact that Chuck ended after 5 seasons was absolutely gutting, particularly as only two seasons were full 20+ ones (I also hate how in England we have 6-episode series. Skins seemed long because they did 10/11 episodes per series). But then again, I used to read Hayate No Gotoku! (Think that's what it was called) manga on the internet, and there were so many chapters and so many similar-looking girls who were into him at one point or another, i just got confused and stopped reading.
I don't mind long films, provided there's enough plot development or action scenes. For example with the Dark Knight Rises I get over the lack of action by the fact that the talking, and even the silent bits, are so good. But with the Fast and Furious series I'm glad they're bringing more action into it - there wasn't enough racing in the early ones, although they were good. (The effects were shocking too, just watch the main drag races in TFatF and 2F2F again, when they use Nos it's hilarious xD ).

June 16th, 2013, 6:40 PM
Long animes tend to be a put off for me. It keeps me from rewatching a lot of things, since back when I was younger, I'd only get to catch bits and pieces of anime I liked since it was always on way past my bedtime. I mean, I could easily watch it now, but I look and realize it's no wonder I couldn't follow along so easily back then cause it just...doesn't end. I am more likely to watch something that's already finished though. I don't like the suspense of waiting for new episodes and missing them and such haha. That's why I tend to stick with older things.

That's a good thing about Yu-Gi-Oh DM. It's five seasons long, one of those seasons being complete filler bs that you can definitely skip out on so more like 4 seasons. But yeah. I can't keep up with an anime like Pokemon or Naruto that just keep going and going. Too much for me, haha. Though bear in mind, I'm not a big person on watching anime or even regular television, so I wouldn't bother recommending me anything. :P

Weeaboo Name
June 17th, 2013, 1:30 AM
Doesn't matter if it's 1 or 1000 eps. If it's good I'll enjoy it.

June 17th, 2013, 1:37 AM
I had small problem catching up with Bleach, since there was like 250+ episodes when I started watching it, but I finally managed to catch up and It's currently my most favorite anime now.

June 17th, 2013, 2:55 AM
I generally watch all those short animes with 12-25 episodes, you know the usual ones. I have never really watched any long-running anime as I feel that why bother watching it when there's like 333 episodes already, it would take weeks to at least catch up. The only thing that can make me stand long running anime is that I watched it from like all the way from the beginning and I feel sort of attached to it already. The longest anime I have ever watched is D-Gray Man, with 103 episodes, or maybe Yu-Gi-Oh, or Pokemon.but those are what we call cartoons right?

Anyway, I feel that 12-13 episodes animes are too short while 25 episodes ones are too draggy. However, for some reason, animes with more episode generally make me have more attention span and makes me want to watch the next episode. (I am looking at you, DGM and SKET Dance!)

Maybe that's why the animes can get so long anyway....

June 17th, 2013, 8:43 AM
the number ep is a turn off for me, the longest Anime I have ever watch was Toyko Mew Mew with 52 eps. Anything longer that than I will not even try as I get bored easily with them. I did try watching "One Piece" but after 4 eps I gave up as it was boring.

so yeah 52 eps max for me.

June 17th, 2013, 9:10 AM
You guys do know that anime is already plural, right? Haha...

You won't catch me watching some ridiculously long anime series, mainly because most of the long-runnning anime are usually shonen series'. I'm not a fan of that genre anymore, since I feel like I've grown out of it. I prefer shows with plenty of depth and drama nowadays, so I usually stick with the 10-40 episode seinen series'.

Well, I do sometimes revisit old shonen anime that I grew up on, like all the Mecha shows and db series', but purely because of nostalgia.

June 17th, 2013, 9:55 AM
I like short things, as in 1–6 episodes or 1–4 volumes. To date, I've never finished an anime longer than 24 episodes, or manga longer than 4 volumes. Evidently, even normal lengths are off-putting to me. Only LoGH is of such particular interest to me that I intend on finishing it despite an 110 episode total.

June 17th, 2013, 10:05 PM
It really depends on the anime for me. Naruto was too long for me because it didn't hold my interest. Inuyasha, on the other hand, is ridiculously long and although I have stopped watching it several times because of its length, I always go back to it because it is one of my favorite anime and it helped me through a lot.

In the end, I think it is the quality of the anime that matters, not the length.

Nakala Pri
June 25th, 2013, 6:43 AM
Shortness in an anime is annoying. :c But length in an anime is off-putting.

However I prefer long anime's. It keeps me occupied through dark times. :)

Longest I have gotten is 24 episodes. I HATE DEATH NOTE!!! :C

June 26th, 2013, 8:21 AM
I'll watch anything as long as is it is quality stuff. I don't give two ****s about the length as I feel that I can watch anything as long as it interests me. One Piece hasn't bored me yet. Not even after 600 episodes. And neither has shows like Gintama which have 250+ episodes. In fact, these two are the best anime I've ever seen. The "Best anime" tag is subjective and people can point out a number of faults in One Piece which are largely absent in shows like, say, Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood. But I regard the series with which I've had a more fun and have had a better emotional connection with the characters as the better one. I feel that long-running shows have this advantage over short ones - characters get more time to shine. I feel like I have more of an emotional connection with characters like Sakata Gintoki from Gintama than someone like Lelouch Lamperogue from Code Geass.

I don't understand how people can just "drop" a series because it is too long even though they've seen like 120 episodes and are enjoying themselves. I mean, as long as you're enjoying the experience, who the hell cares? Nobody's forcing you to get "caught up" with the show. You can watch things at your own pace - one or two episode per day is manageable by most people. Again, I don't get why people are so obsessed with getting "caught up". I mean, honestly, waiting for episodes to come out weekly is a pain in the ass. You'll know that the feeling is pretty excruciating when you get caught up. People should just enjoy the experience while it lasts.

That said, I do feel that the makers of One Piece are milking it to a degree (not the mangaka; the anime company - Toei). They could've easily fit the contents of those 600 episodes into 300-something episodes. The current episodes are following a one chapter per episode pacing which is just plain horrible. Each chapter is like 17-18 pages long and an episode being stretched out using a single chapter just ends up with the anime having horrible pacing. I feel that 2-3 chapters per episode is the ideal pacing. Gintama's been doing things right when it comes to that. I mean, sure, it goes on breaks. But at least the animation is amazing and the show doesn't suffer due to bad pacing.

Anyway, my point is - why bother thinking about length if you know you're in for a wild ride? Some stories are meant to be long. Just enjoy the hell outta it instead of worrying about crappy stuff like length. Of course, if you're short on time then it becomes a sort of problem. But then again, you can just watch an episode or two a day instead of watching 5-6. Most people do have that much time with them.

Shortness in an anime is annoying. :c But length in an anime is off-putting.

However I prefer long anime's. It keeps me occupied through dark times. http://www.pokecommunity.com/images/templates/smilies/cerulean/1.%20smile.gif

Longest I have gotten is 24 episodes. I HATE DEATH NOTE!!! :C
Umm, what's with all those contradictory statements? :p

June 26th, 2013, 9:16 AM
Length in a series primarily just delays me from picking it up. If it becomes available in English via cable/satellite broadcast, then I'll just go ahead and start watching it then, particularly if it starts from the beginning. If you were to go to my MAL link in my signature, you'd see that I don't find length particularly off-putting. 5 of the series I'm watching are longer than 50 episodes, while there are another 5 that are part of a larger series that extends to at least 30 episodes in length.

I'm also reading through several series that are actively running or are at least 100 chapters in length and are completed.

Length will only put me off if my plate of series I'm working through is quite full already.

June 26th, 2013, 10:07 AM
It's daunting to me, but mostly because I know my attention span on something is a finite thing, and if something is long (let's say more than 100 episodes), I fear that I might never finish it because of getting bored at some point. Even more so if it somehow contains boring filler somewhere in the middle.

If it's broken up somehow, then it's not nearly as bad - but if it's one long continuous series of anything with 100+ episodes, it's going to make me balk at even considering watching it.

June 26th, 2013, 12:07 PM
I don't mind lengthy anime. I mean, I caught up with Naruto and even came to love the fillers because it helped me learn more about my fave characters. Now I'm so annoyed by having to wait for new episodes, so I'm letting them pile up again @.@
If an anime is good, length doesn't bother me at all.

June 29th, 2013, 10:52 AM
I'd say yes.
50 episodes (with plenty of filler) is my limit, otherwise I'll just quickly lose interest in the plot; interestingly, Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood's 64 episode count is the only exception (lack of/low number of fillers, most likely). Then again, I rarely watch anime with more than 30 episodes, seeing as the longer ones that catch my eye are mainly 2 cour (24 - 26 episodes) anime.

July 4th, 2013, 4:50 PM
I don't know a lot of anime, but I still avoid the few of them that I know (Naruto, Bleach, One Piece) because they're too long. I read the manga version. It's still short, but it still gets through the talking pretty fast. All of the talking bores me to death. I'd be fine with watching anime movies because they aren't cut in the most exciting parts and get to the point. The latest One Piece movie was pretty good.

July 5th, 2013, 6:11 PM
In the hands of a talented staff, a longer running anime can be great. Sadly, those are far and few. I think the problem with those shows is that they are eventually forced into filler or unreasonable padding of stories to stay ahead of their source material. I've always felt that's the reason Bleach was cancelled, it just had no idea what to do with itself towards the end there. The only super long running anime I've managed to keep up with are One Piece, Pokemon, and the entire family of Dragon Ball shows. Of those shows, One Piece is the one that delivers on such a consistent basis, and that's definitely thanks to the grand scope that its world is built with in mind.

I think the ideal length for an anime is about 52(ish) episodes. That's four Japanese TV seasons and whether it's a year-long show or intermittent, that should be enough to tell a story if you're capable of making full use of the episodes. 13 episodes is very short and an overwhelming majority of anime that attempt that length have these inconclusive endings, many of which are never followed up on. 26 episodes is a little better, it's plenty of time to tell a reasonably satisfying story without the filler that will invariably plague those longer running shows, but, for me, I always end up feeling like I could do with a little more.

Nil Nuane
July 5th, 2013, 8:01 PM
I made a goal to watch all episodes of detective conan 4 years ago.

I'm on episode 110. Only 600 to go...?

July 7th, 2013, 8:21 AM
Oh yeah! Detective Conan has been going on for more than 20 years and they keep coming up with new episodes. It's a wonderful anime but it's just never-ending. And how would they end that anime, I wonder? Would the ending be really predictable and cheesy?

Same goes for Gintama. Even though it hasn't been around that long it's still one of the longest animes out there! 300+ episodes. That is quite a lot. And I'm still not sure whether i totally understand Gintama still...

July 23rd, 2013, 11:14 PM
I actually prefer watching series that are already completed. I would much rather know that there's a dozen episodes of a series available for me to watch in a single day, whenever I want, than being able to communicate with a fandom about a single episode released weekly.

So it's not the length of an anime that bothers me, but only if it's content feels like it's being watered down. Which in many cases, means fillers. But even non-fillers can bore me, with Naruto being an example.

July 27th, 2013, 3:41 AM
Why do these shows have to be so damn long?

August 23rd, 2013, 4:02 PM
I think it's a matter of whether or not I joined the series when it first aired (or earlier on) as opposed to later.

For instead, Shippuden is pretty long, yet because I grew up watching the original Naruto series, and then started watching Shippuden, its length didn't bother me.

But for something like One Piece... even though I've heard many friends recommend it, starting now is too discouraging.

September 2nd, 2013, 12:58 PM
I find it daunting to begin a 100+ episode series, so I rarely give them a decent chance. A good series like One Piece or Gintama will pull me in and distract me from doing my other responsibilities. In the past, I've started and finished series with ~50 episodes on the weekends before school days. Totally irresponsible of me. I cannot be left alone with such dangers! :P

September 2nd, 2013, 3:25 PM
Just want to make a note of Hajime no Ippo, that seems to have a disorder called "We can't stop" syndrome.

If it's long but interesting, I can tolerate it to a point. But things like Detective Conan and Hajime no Ippo? PSSSSSSHHHHH

September 8th, 2013, 11:00 AM
I'm kinda lenient on this, but I can hardly stand long anime. I went through both Fullmetal Alchemist series unscathed, but I just don't have the time to catch up on anime like Bleach or One Piece that have a zillion episodes. I'd rather stick to the manga.