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Spartacus
August 28th, 2013, 07:36 AM
Today, Nintendo announced the 2DS which will be released on the same day as X and Y, 12th October.

Read here. (http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/08/28/nintendo-announces-2ds)

What are your thoughts?

Kingdom of Tea
August 28th, 2013, 07:37 AM
Looks like a failed Tablet, or what the nintendo DS was going to originally be until they all got of the effects of meth and fired the guy for the design.

In a nutshell, only stupid people would buy this.

(IT'S NOT EVEN PORTABLE)

Team Fail
August 28th, 2013, 07:40 AM
It looks absolutely useless. It's not portable, and it can't even fold shut. They have a pouch for it, but what can that do? I think Nintendo is starting to go downhill now.

Miss Doronjo
August 28th, 2013, 07:40 AM
And before you ask guys, this is legit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAExBTWIp3M).
I'm.. honestly trying to bask in this information so far... XD

Starry Windy
August 28th, 2013, 07:42 AM
I think it's one nice attempt from Nintendo that they decide to bring in non-3D version of 3DS in form of 2DS, since maybe Nintendo figured some child would activate 3D mode by accident because of their curiosity. And for some reason 2DS reminds me of Wii U's controller but bigger, which sadly is unlike 3DS and DS's fold-to-open handheld, which is why I favored them more than 2DS.

Spartacus
August 28th, 2013, 07:43 AM
Basically a pocket extender, in my eyes. Will probably still sell millions because it's a DS and kids will ask their parents and their parents will say yes because it's cheaper.

Team Fail
August 28th, 2013, 07:44 AM
I think it's one nice attempt from Nintendo that they decide to bring in non-3D version of 3DS in form of 2DS, since maybe Nintendo figured some child would activate 3D mode by accident because of their curiosity. And for some reason 2DS reminds me of Wii U's controller but bigger, which sadly is unlike 3DS and DS was (the fold-to-open handheld), which I favored from these lines.

Don't forget the 3DS has parental locks to prevent 3D from even turning on, regardless where the slider is.

Oh and this:

http://i.imgur.com/T33Pg05.png
credits: linkandzelda

Boomburst
August 28th, 2013, 07:53 AM
I've just had the biggest PSP GO flashback of my life. Seriously, what the hell is this thing?

If you have a young child playing on a 3ds just turn the 3D off using the parental controls. I will say that it is nice to see a 3DS without crap L and R keys.

Cherrim
August 28th, 2013, 07:54 AM
I like the idea--I love the idea. I have never really used the 3D setting on my 3DS because it's a pointless battery waste and it washes out the colours when you use it. So I'd consider myself the prime target for something like this but... it's so bulky since it doesn't close. :/ I've even got a purse so it's not like carrying something that size is a big deal for me but the design is so gross.

I'm gonna be really upset if they start pushing this and neglect to continue releasing colours here. :( I want my hot pink NA 3DS already!

I'd buy one of these if it were region-free but alas...

Squirrel
August 28th, 2013, 07:58 AM
I can see why they made it and there certainly is a market for it, but they've gone about it in completely the wrong way. It's so bulky and doesn't look at all comfortable to hold, and it doesn't even look particularly pleasant. The idea of having a non-3D 3DS is perfectly suited for a lot of people who are looking for a cheaper way to play the 3DS games without having to bother with the 3D, but was this the way to do it...? I'd say no. I certainly won't be buying one, at least.

awolfsquared
August 28th, 2013, 08:00 AM
Even if it's way cheaper than the other 3Ds system , I'm still set on getting an XL instead. It's not really attractive look and I prefer a system that can fold cause it's easier to find in a pocket. A non-folding system only looks aesthetically pleasing on a system with one screen. This looks like a freaking door stopper.

It's being marketed towards children under 7 (or people who get motion sickness from the 3D) and I can see it selling well in that target audience. The system is safe for their eyes, bulky so likely durable so if they toss it around (like what a lot of kids at that age do with electronics/other things) it won't break, and cheap enough for many parents to be willing to buy it for them. But I don't seeing most other people not in that demographic getting it unless they can't afford a normal 3DS or XL.

Synerjee
August 28th, 2013, 08:03 AM
Ugh. The 2DS is......ugly. It looks too stiff and bulky and doesn't have the flexibility of the DS and the 3DS's clamshell cover. Having to hold the device upright all the time in a stiff position makes it look so uncomfortable. I mean, a 2DS is all fine and well and marketable, but why make its design that way?! I think people who dislike 3D graphics would probably just go ahead and buy the 3DS anyways after looking at that...thing. Ugh.

JayD
August 28th, 2013, 08:07 AM
I feel like this will be like the PSP Go, a huge flop. Why not just buy a regular 3DS and turn on the 2D function?

Yes, people with money issues would buy this, but would they prefer having this over a 3DS? I don't think so. It's too bulky and I don't even think it could fit into certain pockets. I don't know if it was necessary to make it that huge, but the design is just horrible ;~;

Cerberus87
August 28th, 2013, 08:10 AM
It's horrible, pointless and made for little kids who want a new cheap console to play Pokémon.

On the other hand, I may be replacing my DSi with this for the purposes of trading with self. But only after the third game comes.

Tsutarja
August 28th, 2013, 08:10 AM
What I want to know is why the system isn't even portable.. that was a major mistake from Nintendo there if you ask me.

Miss Doronjo
August 28th, 2013, 08:11 AM
http://www.nintendo.com/3ds/new/

From what I understand, this system will aim towards people who will appreciate it's lower pricing @ $129.99. Which, you know, I can understand that, but, I don't understand why they have to completely change the design, when they can just pust the 3Ds on a lower price. @__@ Honestly, to me, according to them, they're saying that the 3Ds might be too expensive (even though it's kinda not). :x

Boomburst
August 28th, 2013, 08:25 AM
What I want to know is why the system isn't even portable.. that was a major mistake from Nintendo there if you ask me.

The 3DS XL isn't exactly portable either in my opinion. I like to put my 3DS in a pocket as my clothes usually have big pockets. Not to say the 3DS XL is bad; it's probably a better experience than the 3DS.

They really should just release a 3DS lite now, I'm sick of waiting as my 3DS has lots of wear and tear.

EDIT:

http://abload.de/img/bildschirmfoto2013-08zcsjl.png

They. Didn't. Even. Give. It. Good. Battery. Life.

Arx
August 28th, 2013, 08:27 AM
I'm so disappointed by that. I mean the 2DS isn't a bad idea but the design is so bulk and ugly. It isn't even portable. What's the meaning of having a console for kids if they can't even go with it wherever they want? If they desperately wanted to make money, why not remove the 3D function in a 3DS console and make a cheaper version of it?

reshilegend
August 28th, 2013, 08:31 AM
At least it comes with a charger, unlike European XLs >_>

Seriously though, the design is horrible.

Moogles
August 28th, 2013, 08:34 AM
I hate the design but it's obviously one that's meant for little kids and casual gamers so I don't think it's a bad move at all actually.

Lower income families can buy a much more durable system for less money. What's not strong about that?

skyluigi2
August 28th, 2013, 08:38 AM
I honestly don't mind it. I like the design (please don't kill me) and I do think it's a good idea on Nintendo's part.
It's pretty much a 3DS made for children; no 3D images, no hinges to snap, and a big bulky design.
It's releasing on Pokemon X & Y's release date too... which is also proof of Nintendo's plan. Releasing a very kid-friendly gaming console, with kid-friendly games, at adult-affordable prices in time for the holiday season of 2013 is definitely an ingenious idea.

Dter ic
August 28th, 2013, 08:38 AM
So this is what happens when you get a 3DS and squish it down to essentially one little rectangular brick.

This will probably go down well with younger children whose parents might not want to get the slightly more expensive 3DS and might be concerned about it's sturdiness. This is the kid proof 3DS!

I don't think it'll be comfortable playing on that for probably more than 30 mins when your hands will be tired playing a game like Mario Kart 7. :P

Livewire
August 28th, 2013, 08:43 AM
I'd like a sleeker design, more of an actual tablet, like say, a Kindle Fire or something, but it's not that bad. It's a $40 cheaper 32DS, so if you don't like the 3D, it's the same thing really. Not getting one, though.

Boomburst
August 28th, 2013, 08:44 AM
Lower income families can buy a much more durable system for less money. What's not strong about that?

It's only $40 cheaper than the normal 3DS. If it was about $89 then I feel it would be different. When the 3DS is already fairly affordable, releasing this seems to be pointless.

Sheep
August 28th, 2013, 08:46 AM
If I didn't already have a 3DS I'd look into one getting one of these. I never use the 3D function on my XL so something that removes said function while making the system cheaper doesn't seem too bad. Looks a bit sturdier, too! If my 8 year old brother were to get his hands on a 3DS I'm sure he'd rip the top half off within a few months, haha.

Just curious about how it feels like to hold it because from the image it looks quite uncomfortable. Read otherwise, though.

Andrew
August 28th, 2013, 09:15 AM
A lot of you are looking at this from your point of view as a more "hardcore" Nintendo gamer. For kids (and parents of those kids), this thing is perfect. Affordable and you avoid the risk of them accidentally activating the 3D (I know you can disable it by default on a normal 3DS, but a lot of parents don't. Not to mention the thing is basically a brick so it's most likely pretty durable, and can handle the abuse a child will throw at it.

My brother (9 years old) never keeps his 3DS XL in his pockets, and never kept his DSi in his pockets either. He always had a travel case, so I'm only assuming most kids do that as well. Carrying anything in pockets is a bad idea for a child, because they tend to be forgetful, and take things out without remembering to put them back in. I see this selling well only because of the fact that it appeals to parents of young children. I'm sure a lot of older people will pick it up too, either because it's cheaper and they don't use the 3D or they just want a backup, but I would personally go to GameStop and get a used 3DS for like $20 more instead of buying this.

Gyardosamped
August 28th, 2013, 09:31 AM
very informative post

I agree, Andrew. Most people are looking at this from a hardcore gamer perspective. This tablet-looking system looks perfect for those of younger age who don't yet have that trait of responsibility totally in mind. I don't think Nintendo was trying to make a system better than what we have now, the 3DS XL; rather, they were just trying to make an affordable system that could be utilized by those of younger age. The 3D option on the 3DS systems we have now is pretty damaging to the eyes after long use, and some of you are not taking into account that most adults today are not very tech savvy. If I asked my mother right now to turn the 3D option on my 3DS off, she'd stare at me with a blank face. I think the design is kinda cute, not to mention it looks pretty durable, like Andrew stated. The system is bulkier and larger for a reason; it's aimed for those of young age, those who love to break everything in sight and throw things around. Nintendo has a really great marketing strategy with this system too; they're releasing it on the same day that Pokémon is being released. I think this'll sell, believe it or not. Heck, I might buy one myself.

New Eden
August 28th, 2013, 09:50 AM
I'm seeing lukewarm at best thoughts about this, but here's what needs to be understood.

Reggie said it's supposed to appeal to children, and thus making it as childproof as they can. I have an eight year old cousin, who I swear makes me cringe when he's using his DS Lite because he forces the crap out of the hinges. Also I'm pretty sure it contributes to lowering the cost as much as they can.

I also hear it's pretty comfortable so I dunno. What I do know is...

https://sphotos-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/5308_10200310561477991_1844402_n.jpg

PhoenixWright77
August 28th, 2013, 10:05 AM
To tell the truth, I actually kind of like this thing. The design really isn't too bad and it's a cheaper alternative to the 3DS for people on a budget and can't afford to pay the extra 40$. While 40$ may not seem like a lot of money to one person, to someone else with less money, that 40$ seems much more valuable. personally, I will be getting the 2DS because I lost my 3DS and I'm saving most of my money on other things.The 2DS allows me to get what I want but cheaper. The only feature it does not have is the ability to play games in 3D but in truth, I only used the 3D once or twice so it doesn't matter.

Also, why are people saying this thing is not portable? I read an article saying that the 2DS will have a slider that will simulate the closing of the screen. It would be rather stupid for Nintendo to forget that feature.

The Dark Avenger
August 28th, 2013, 10:59 AM
Agreed with Cirno!

The flip screen hinges have been an issue with younger users. Once they break, the system doesn't operate.

I also think that the $40 price drop from the standard 3DS is being trivialized. You cannot buy one child a system and not the other. Families with several children may not be able to afford gifting 3-5 3DS's, $510-$850. With the price drop, the costs for the 2DS is, $390 - $650. This is a huge difference as the holiday season approaches in the months following the release.

Lastly, 3DS visuals may be a concern to parents.

All of these elements are what makes this device a good idea.

atomtanned
August 28th, 2013, 11:12 AM
It's pretty much a 3DS made for children; no 3D images, no hinges to snap, and a big bulky design.
It's releasing on Pokemon X & Y's release date too... which is also proof of Nintendo's plan. Releasing a very kid-friendly gaming console, with kid-friendly games, at adult-affordable prices in time for the holiday season of 2013 is definitely an ingenious idea.

This. It's not marketed towards anyone in this forum -- it's meant to be a sturdy, cheaper alternative to the 3DS for young children. That's why the design is clunky -- so a 5 or 6 year old can drop it without any issues. I think it's a great idea on Nintendo's part. If I had a young kid, I definitely wouldn't be giving them anything worth nearly $200 to play with, when it's so easily broken.

Oshamaru
August 28th, 2013, 11:33 AM
I honestly thought this was a joke. Seriously, I did.
The design itself doesn't look very comfortable, but I don't think its a bad move.
This is perfect for little kids. Since they're still not so cautious and may drop it, it doesn't look like it could be damaged...much.

This is also perfect for people who want to play the 3DS Games, especially X and Y, but don't want a normal 3DS.

classiccartoonsftw
August 28th, 2013, 11:39 AM
I'm not buying this. It feels too much like a waste of money. I'll stick to my regular 3DS for the time being.

xxkaylabby
August 28th, 2013, 11:47 AM
it looks like the first attempt at a ds that got rejected.

Dixie Kong
August 28th, 2013, 12:01 PM
This is going to sound silly, but I kind of wish this was released along with the 3DS. I never use the 3D feature on the 3DS, with the exception of cutscenes in Ocarina of Time. That's it.

I actually like the design and the concept, and as a Nintendo handheld collector, I will be purchasing one! Not in the near future, but eventually, haha. The only problem I'm seeing is portability. Nintendo handhelds have been very travel friendly since the GBA SP because you could fold it and the screen wouldn't get scratched up, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see a way to do that with the 2DS. It's a nice novelty though, and I'm very anal about my collecting, so yeah. Still getting one, even though it seems people aren't too fond of this thing. I think it's cute. :)

Edit: Even though kids won't be able to break this thing with hinges, I'm really worried about the screens, especially the bottom one. :x Kids are reckless. Both my brother and sister broke their DS hinges, and this thing is gonna get scratched up from the flo' up without a safe storage method. Though that's where carrying cases come in, I suppose. This thing won't fit in mine...and I have about four lmao. Oh well, new ones will be made.

Playful_Weasel
August 28th, 2013, 12:32 PM
It the design is horrible, no 3D, can't close - I wouldn't use it for gaming.... I may end up buying one just to trade between X & Y (nothing more - and just to say "I own one").

Cherrim
August 28th, 2013, 12:56 PM
Edit: Even though kids won't be able to break this thing with hinges, I'm really worried about the screens, especially the bottom one. :x Kids are reckless. Both my brother and sister broke their DS hinges, and this thing is gonna get scratched up from the flo' up without a safe storage method. Though that's where carrying cases come in, I suppose. This thing won't fit in mine...and I have about four lmao. Oh well, new ones will be made.
I was always such a careful kid with my handhelds. I barely understand the argument that kids drop them all the time and damage the hinges. I... are kids really that careless with consoles? I suppose the answer to that is yes but it baffles me that people could treat consoles like that. Maybe it's because I got my first so late in my childhood that I well knew how expensive they were to replace or something. Though to be fair, consoles are a lot flimsier now than they were back when Nintendo first started putting them out...

Besides, this just seems bigger and more cumbersome to carry... so wouldn't that make it even more prone to dropping? Plus, the fact that you can no longer keep the screens safe in transit makes me question whether it's really as kid-friendly as people are saying it will be. :s People are making it seem similar to tablets like the iPad and whatnot, but those can have cases. I can't think of a feasibly effective casing for this thing because the shaping is really awkward, so I don't see how it's more kid-friendly than the other DS designs.

PhoenixWright77
August 28th, 2013, 02:14 PM
It the design is horrible, no 3D, can't close - I wouldn't use it for gaming.... I may end up buying one just to trade between X & Y (nothing more - and just to say "I own one").
I want to ask something. Just how many people actually used the 3D more then 5 times? Me and most of my friends don't, I know that. The 3D was a nice feature and all but I found myself completely forgetting the 3D after a few days with the system. I'm not sure if it's just me, but 3D makes it hard for me to focus on the game, especially if it's filled with fast-paced action.

Also, now that I think about it, Super Mario 3D Land had some sections where it helps if you turn the 3D on.(Pretty much the game where I used it most because of that) But, I don't really think that would be a problem. It was not used that much as far as I know.(I never did 100% on that game but I did beat the main story and some of the bonus worlds and, as far as I can recall, I only had to use it like 2-3 times and it's perfectly doable without the 3D)

Also, I don't see why so many people are hating on the design. I mean...it looks exactly like an open 3DS with the buttons moved up. It's really not so bad people. I've read a hands on that says it's rather comfortable so it won't interfere with gaming or anything.

Also, you can actually close it in a way. There is a slider that simulates the closing of the screen.

Aeroblast
August 28th, 2013, 02:17 PM
I'm confounded by the "It isn't portable" remarks. Portable just means you can carry it around. A ****ing laptop is portable. Also, there is a slider that can put the system into sleep mode that replicates closing the lid in 3DS so "portability" isn't even that much of an issue.

Anyways this is it, the annual release of a Nintendo console. Some don't want the 3D capability so if you're looking for a cheaper device that can play 3DS games, then this is for you.

Cordelia
August 28th, 2013, 02:18 PM
A very strange design and kind of funny looking, but I won't judge until I see one in person. I like the concept though. :)

Aeroblast
August 28th, 2013, 02:30 PM
One thing that irks me though, one that's so frustrating I have to stress this in all caps.

STILL NO SECOND ANALOGUE STICK. WHAT WERE YOU THINKING, NINTENDO.

PhoenixWright77
August 28th, 2013, 02:55 PM
One thing that irks me though, one that's so frustrating I have to stress this in all caps.

STILL NO SECOND ANALOGUE STICK. WHAT WERE YOU THINKING, NINTENDO.
Can't believe Nintendo forgot about that AGAIN!:| I really hope they do make an addon to it so that I can play Kid Icarus Uprising without cramping my hands(Easily my favorite 3DS game)

SaniOKh
August 28th, 2013, 03:12 PM
One thing that irks me though, one that's so frustrating I have to stress this in all caps.

STILL NO SECOND ANALOGUE STICK. WHAT WERE YOU THINKING, NINTENDO.

IIRC, Nintendo already stated that the second analog stick will always be an accessory.

I'll be honest, I kinda like this thing. Yes, it can't fold, but on the other hand, no hinges, so it's a given it will last longer than other variations of the 3DS. As for 3D, it's a feature I can't use for longer than one minute, the only time I found it actually useful was in Ocarina of Time during the first fight against Ganondorf, so if it isn't there, I won't miss it. As for how comfortable it will be, I trust Nintendo.

I wanted to buy a second 3DS to trade with myself for some time. If I wasn't already planning on buying a classic 3DS with a preinstalled capture card, I would wait for this to come out, that's for sure.

atomtanned
August 28th, 2013, 03:47 PM
It's only $40 cheaper than the normal 3DS. If it was about $89 then I feel it would be different. When the 3DS is already fairly affordable, releasing this seems to be pointless.

I think the other point though is that not only is it $40 cheaper (which honestly can be a big deal in and of itself... if you don't have that extra $40 you don't have it, period), it also appears to be more durable. So you pay less to get something that will most likely last longer.

Dixie Kong
August 28th, 2013, 04:00 PM
I was always such a careful kid with my handhelds. I barely understand the argument that kids drop them all the time and damage the hinges. I... are kids really that careless with consoles? I suppose the answer to that is yes but it baffles me that people could treat consoles like that. Maybe it's because I got my first so late in my childhood that I well knew how expensive they were to replace or something. Though to be fair, consoles are a lot flimsier now than they were back when Nintendo first started putting them out...

I've always been careful with my stuff as well, but there are kids that think everything they own is indestructible, kids with behavior and anger problems that will toss them, kids that are clumsy will drop them, etc. My brother was just a rough player, which is how his hinge broke. My sister is clumsy and dropped hers a lot. So while it's weird to those of us that take care of our things, especially gaming consoles, it's more common (that I've noticed anyway) that kids will drop them, press buttons too hard from over-excitement, what have you. It's not always about being careless, really. There's accidents too. :( Those hinges aren't too hard to break either. I'm careful with my things and my original DS' hinge is a tad loose. And that happened after I was pretty much done with it. So idk what happened there.

And Seattle, I should clarify about the portability thing. It's not as easily portable as its predecessors. :P I have a big purse with lots of pockets, so if I really wanna take mine all over the place, I can put it in its own pocket in my bag. For guys though, who generally don't carry purses or bags of any kind, it'll be tougher to carry around, since it's not foldable.

Peitharchia
August 28th, 2013, 04:09 PM
I agree, it does look a little bulky. The good thing about it is that it'll be easier for kids to hold on to them. If it was like the 3DS, kids would've dropped it within just a few minutes. Some parents forget to lock the 3D feature in their 3DS every now and then, but this will guarantee you that 3D will be turned off at all times. Also, since this doesn't require you to constantly flip the top, kids won't be able to break it so easily. If I had a seven-year-old brother, this would be perfect for him. ^^"

Spinosaurus
August 28th, 2013, 04:11 PM
I want to ask something. Just how many people actually used the 3D more then 5 times?
Way more than you think.


Playing Mario 3D Land, Luigi's Mansion, Kid Icarus, Mario Kart, Paper Mario, MGS3, Resident Evil: R, DKCR 3D, Mario Tennis, Ocarina of Time and Star Fox 64 in 3D was so fantastic that I can't play those games in 2D anymore. (unless I had to.) 3D is an amazing feature and taking it away kinda ruins some games. (ex. Luigi's Mansion's atmosphere and animations was hugely complemented with the 3D and taking that away actually makes it a lesser game, if you ask me. And honestly the only reason I excused MGS3D's framerate is the ability to play the game in 3D mode.)

PhoenixWright77
August 28th, 2013, 04:35 PM
Way more than you think.


Playing Mario 3D Land, Luigi's Mansion, Kid Icarus, Mario Kart, Paper Mario, MGS3, Resident Evil: R, DKCR 3D, Mario Tennis, Ocarina of Time and Star Fox 64 in 3D was so fantastic that I can't play those games in 2D anymore. (unless I had to.) 3D is an amazing feature and taking it away kinda ruins some games. (ex. Luigi's Mansion's atmosphere and animations was hugely complemented with the 3D and taking that away actually makes it a lesser game, if you ask me. And honestly the only reason I excused MGS3D's framerate is the ability to play the game in 3D mode.)
While I do agree that 3D is a pretty cool feature, I really can't see how you and some others can play on some of those games without getting distracted. Some of them I can understand, Paper Mario for instance since it does not require quick actions. But, for the life of me I just can't figure out how you were able to withstand, Kid Icarus, Mario Kart, and Star Fox 64 for more then a minute or two. When I got the 3DS I'll admit I thought the 3D features were very cool. But I slowly started to forget about the feature over time. Surprisingly enough, I soon completely forgot about it until people were asking me to turn the 3D up and I thought, 'Oh yeah, I can do that.'

Maybe it's just my friends and I who don't use it. But, I'm pretty sure thats not the case. Quite frankly, I would have bought the 3DS even if it did not have 3D and was called the DSX or something, I still would have bought, and enjoyed, it.

Keizaal
August 28th, 2013, 04:47 PM
I'm pretty sure the 2DS is more geared to younger players. Young kids can get their eyes damaged if they use the 3D feature incorrectly. The 2DS, IMO, is a great idea. MY little sister's are big Nintendo fans, I'm sure they'd want games like Pokemon Rumble, Super Mario, Ocarina of Time, Pokemon X/Y Mario Kart, etc, without the risk of hurting their eyes. I have a 3DS, and I've only used the 3D feature once or twice for OOT, It was annoying to have to keep the DS at the certain angle and a certain distance from my face. And IMO, Ocarina of Time wasn't that different without it. And it's $40 cheaper, which is great. I think the design might be a little clunky, but it is certainty kid friendly, which I think is what Nintendo was aiming for

Spinosaurus
August 28th, 2013, 04:53 PM
While I do agree that 3D is a pretty cool feature, I really can't see how you and some others can play on some of those games without getting distracted. Some of them I can understand, Paper Mario for instance since it does not require quick actions. But, for the life of me I just can't figure out how you were able to withstand, Kid Icarus, Mario Kart, and Star Fox 64 for more then a minute or two. '
Because the frame rate is still the same in 3D for those game. Kid Icarus is still 30fps in 3D, while MK and SF64 are still 60. :P And the 3D itself aren't distracting at all. It was at first, but after playing with it for a while (10 minutes. No I'm serious.) you get accustomed to it. In fact, 3D enhances the experience not just aesthetically, but functionally as well. It's much easier to tell the distance in 3D in Star Fox and Kid Icarus for example...actually it's a big help for all the games I mentioned.

Pinkie-Dawn
August 28th, 2013, 04:56 PM
My only complaint about the 2DS is how difficult it'll be to use when getting streetpasses, especially if kids don't want to mess up the top screen with a lot of dusts from their pockets. Somehow, I doubt the 2DS will be affordable enough for those who can't buy the other 3DS's, because I know someone will think $129.99 is still expensive for him due to his low income.

Also, reading all of these "Nintendo is doomed" comments here regarding the 2DS makes me want to cringe for missing the main idea of this device.

Wobbu
August 28th, 2013, 07:48 PM
People complain about the 3DS being too expensive, yet continue to complain after Nintendo produces a cheaper version...

I already have a 3DS, so I don't have any need for the 2DS. I don't see why anyone should hate on it, no one's being forced to buy it and it won't affect 3DS users.

Dixie Kong
August 28th, 2013, 07:57 PM
People complain about the 3DS being too expensive, yet continue to complain after Nintendo produces a cheaper version...

I already have a 3DS, so I don't have any need for the 2DS. I don't see why anyone should hate on it, no one's being forced to buy it and it won't affect 3DS users.

I agree. Unfortunately, people just like to complain about things that have nothing to do with them.

Apple Juice
August 28th, 2013, 08:01 PM
I'm actually at a point of purchasing a new console at the moment, specifically the 3DS. I heard about this today, and the price does tempt me, but I honestly can't think of much more reason to buy this. I'll still have my DSi, and the 3DS is for the enhanced graphics, so I'm not sure I'd enjoy the games as much if I played them on a 2D screen. If I do end up choosing the 2DS, it'll be because I want to purchase more games immediately along with the console, haha.

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August 28th, 2013, 08:28 PM
The design is growing on me, its sort of cute! It also looks like it might be more comfortable in the video.

Arcturus.
August 28th, 2013, 08:42 PM
The price is pretty tempting to me, since I have yet to even buy a normal 3DS yet, but even though I don't find the design completely awful, I'm worried I'll start to miss the ability to fold up my DS and put it my pocket, among other features the 2DS is missing. Oh well, I'll probably make up my mind before Pokemon X &Y are released.

DavidtheDeadPhilosopher
August 28th, 2013, 09:05 PM
I think the design actually looks far more confortable then the 3DS original, My hands always start to cramp up after a few hours of playing that system, regardless of the game I'm playing.

In my experience the hinge-consoles have been somewhat fragile, and I've had 2 break on me at different points. (My current 3DS has a right shoulder button malfunction that's actually a fairly common accurance among many other users I've talked to). So having a sturdier system might not be the worst thing in the world. I'd have a hard time seeing anyone breaking that thing.

As for the screen worries, they have items such as screen protectors an it's also fairly likely that Nintendo and 3rd party companies will be creating at least 1 good case for the system.

It's rather quite brilliant really, selling possibly the most kid friendly system since the GBA pretty much on launch with a Pokemon title. This should sell really well, just not to us.


That being said, I might just buy one to be a Pokemon Player :)

Signal the Haunting
August 28th, 2013, 09:35 PM
The price seems reasonable, but I think some people will just be using it to put into their toasters.

Playful_Weasel
August 28th, 2013, 11:01 PM
I want to ask something. Just how many people actually used the 3D more then 5 times? Me and most of my friends don't, I know that. The 3D was a nice feature and all but I found myself completely forgetting the 3D after a few days with the system. I'm not sure if it's just me, but 3D makes it hard for me to focus on the game, especially if it's filled with fast-paced action.

Also, now that I think about it, Super Mario 3D Land had some sections where it helps if you turn the 3D on.(Pretty much the game where I used it most because of that) But, I don't really think that would be a problem. It was not used that much as far as I know.(I never did 100% on that game but I did beat the main story and some of the bonus worlds and, as far as I can recall, I only had to use it like 2-3 times and it's perfectly doable without the 3D)

Also, I don't see why so many people are hating on the design. I mean...it looks exactly like an open 3DS with the buttons moved up. It's really not so bad people. I've read a hands on that says it's rather comfortable so it won't interfere with gaming or anything.

Also, you can actually close it in a way. There is a slider that simulates the closing of the screen.

I only have 1 3D game (Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity) and every time I play I always have the 3D on, makes game more fun. No experience with any other 3D game so far. I guess everyone is different I use 3D a lot, for me main reason to get 3DS too, I have fun with the camera and 3D video too.

I just hope the 2DS has many of the features I use a lot besides gaming, video and camera. I have not checked out everything it offers. Since it plays 3DS games If I do get it I will use it for trading between X & Y, or between Black2 and X or Y.

Slider isn't same as closing the 3DS. That is just me.

Went
August 29th, 2013, 12:10 AM
I'm pretty sorry for the people trying to play Mario & Luigi 4 there because I tried to bring the console to the beach one day and the lighting made it impossible for me to tell the 3D and... the pre-final boss has a specially annoying attack that is virtually impossible to dodge without the 3D on. I had to give up and wait to be back home to try again. Not that I would have known otherwise because I don't think I have ever turned the 3D off voluntarily. 3DS games without 3D just look visually horrible to me.

So I won't be touching this thing with a 3 metre pole. But I'm sure this is a wonderful alternative for the people who never use the 3D for a reason or another and, as it's been said, for all the parents who want to buy Pokémon X&Y for their kids but were worried about their eyes blowing up because of the effect or the console breaking. I can see it winning the Christmas sale- it's the cheapest system right now, and the one with better games as of yet.

Nakala Pri
August 29th, 2013, 12:25 AM
This actually doesn't look too bad. Sure, at first glance, 'EW!' but at second, hmm, it might actually be more comfortable. It comes with it's own case, more colors might be announced. I may get this for my Birthday. I'll compare, see which one is more awesome. :P

latias190
August 29th, 2013, 04:45 AM
... Welp, it seems like Nintendo is finally cracking under whatever they're inhaling. That thing is hideous and bulky.

Brane
August 29th, 2013, 06:11 PM
I think it's fine for the audience it's aimed at. Parent's dont need to find their way through settings to turn 3D off, the screens are slightly more indented to avoid damage, and they're connected to make them more durable. The overall console is more durable, bulky and the lack of a hinge means it's harder for kids to break it if they say drop it. Not to mention it's significantly cheaper then the other DS consoles.

It's quite obviously aimed at children, which is why I don't understand why they chose to highlight adults playing it? Nonetheless I believe it will do fine and is much more promising for parents, the price is lower, it's more durable and it has more games aimed towards children.

Twiggy
August 29th, 2013, 10:07 PM
Let's just say that if you're put off by the compromises the system had to make to reach its price point, the system is not for you - this system is targeted towards young children and people that want to save as much money as possible to play 3DS games without the 3D.

The design is awkward, but that's what you get for cost-cutting on design. It's also technically one screen under the surface - the plastic is there to create a gap for consistency. It's cheaper to produce one larger, 2D screen than two separate screens, where one of them is 3D.

Boomburst
August 29th, 2013, 11:52 PM
Just realised something. How would it be possible to play 3DS games when you hold it sideways? I'd imagine it would be very uncomfortable.

I can understand them re-designing a system to cut costs, but this slate design seems to do more harm than good in my book.

Marisa
August 30th, 2013, 12:26 AM
The design is bad in my opinion. Like a Game Boy partially burnt and melted in a fire.

The folding design for the DS line was essentially what made them good in a way, as the folding mechanisms allowed for easy storage. It's going to be sad to lug around that huge thing now, isn't it?

Mr Cat Dog
August 30th, 2013, 02:18 PM
I kind of like it, in spite of myself. Not that I'd ever buy one, given that I have a 3DS of my own, but for what it is, it's not that terrible, really. It's cheap (not as cheap as people would like, but it's a start), it doesn't have the 3D (its unique selling point), and though the design is a little clunky, it's definitely functional for what it is. I'm not going to buy one myself, but I certainly won't be begrudging people who end up doing so when it comes out in a few weeks' time. If anything, I'm impressed that it managed to stay a secret for this long, given the leak culture that currently exists in this industry! :D

pokem0nprincess
August 31st, 2013, 09:55 AM
I can't decide how I myself feel about it. I'm a 19 year old casual gamer who mainly plays Pokemon, and I can definitely see how it would appeal to the younger crowd of gamers (4 and up.) The price will definitely be a factor IMHO because I know for a FACT that being a poor college student I saved from 1st January to mid-April before I had enough for my 3DS XL and a single 3DS game, being Luigi's Mansion. To this day I only have 3 3DS games total; I have Animal Crossing and Sims 3. I barely use the 3D as it kind of hurts my eyes after long periods and it's basically unnecessary in the Sims, Animal Crossing is just fine without it, and Luigi's Mansion I barely play as I can't focus on it for a long time. Parents will flock to this system, because I can totally see kids begging their parents for 3DS's to play the new Pokemon games. Releasing it at a lower price point with a kid-friendly form factor at the same time as XY is going to either make or break this new edition of the console, I think. I just think their advertising budget should be amped up for this system to reach more kids and parents, or else this system may not sell well.

Atomic Pirate
August 31st, 2013, 10:11 AM
They're digging their own grave and jumping in it at this point. They're keeping region-locking, their main console's controller costs egregious amounts of money, their main handheld has a 2 hour battery life, and now they make a handheld that isn't even portable.

Nintendo is dying, and I couldn't be more happy. Their fanboys are the absolute worst with their insane loyalty and affinity for branding anyone who doesn't like Nintendo as someone who plays nothing but Call of Duty and cares only about graphics.

Plus, they make nothing but Mario games.

franko94
August 31st, 2013, 10:21 AM
I'm in favor of the 2DS. I will be able to trade with myself when I do get both X and Y without having to buy a full 3DS. To be honest, if this was an option in March of 2011, I would have gotten this instead of the 3DS because I only use the 3D out of guilt because I feel that it is the whole gimmick of the system.

Spinosaurus
August 31st, 2013, 10:31 AM
Nintendo is dying, and I couldn't be more happy.
lol. (http://i.imgur.com/UwdTasL.jpg)

Their fanboys are the absolute worst with their insane loyalty and affinity for branding anyone who doesn't like Nintendo as someone who plays nothing but Call of Duty and cares only about graphics.
Whoa with that generalization! Did a Nintendo fan kill your cat or something? lol.

Plus, they make nothing but Mario games.
Yeah, no. lol.

droomph
August 31st, 2013, 10:38 AM
Their fanboys are the absolute worst with their insane loyalty

Then why are you on a Pokémon forum, which can only be played on Nintendo consoles? Just a thought.

Whoa with that generalization! Did a Nintendo fan kill your cat or something? lol.

Sony, PC, and Microsoft fanboys are fairly civilized in their arguing, but both of them turn into demons when you say that you like Nintendo consoles in addition to XBOX, PC, and PSx and that they all have their equal strengths and weaknesses (aka logic). Everyone hates Nintendo because of things like the 2DS but tbh they still make some decent consoles (the Wii, for example.) they just tend to throw in little gimmicks along with a well-formed console (3DS), which Sony and Microsoft do with whole new gadgets, like the Move or Kinect.










as for my personal opinion I think it's pretty! It might be kinda gimmicky to sell this but I've never used the 3D voluntarily past the Camera, and a lot of people who bought the 3DS have been complaining about the 3D never being used, so it's a way at least to address that problem.

Brane
August 31st, 2013, 05:02 PM
They're digging their own grave and jumping in it at this point. They're keeping region-locking, their main console's controller costs egregious amounts of money, their main handheld has a 2 hour battery life, and now they make a handheld that isn't even portable.

Nintendo is dying, and I couldn't be more happy. Their fanboys are the absolute worst with their insane loyalty and affinity for branding anyone who doesn't like Nintendo as someone who plays nothing but Call of Duty and cares only about graphics.

Plus, they make nothing but Mario games.

How is it not portable? The only place it can no longer fit is in your pocket.

And who can honestly say they always carry their 3DS in their pocket? I never do, it's in my bag.

Good article by Polygon covering the console: http://www.polygon.com/2013/8/30/4676984/nintendo-2ds-hands-on-surprisingly-not-the-worst-thing-ever

Boomburst
August 31st, 2013, 11:22 PM
...now they make a handheld that isn't even portable.

Using your same logic, iPads and PS Vitas are not portable and you have to drag it around like you're tugging a boat. This 2DS, while a stupid, stupid product mainly due to the affordability of the basic 3DS, is made to fit in a bag rather than a pocket.

Nintendo is dying,

Someone's melodramatic.

Their fanboys are the absolute worst with their insane loyalty and affinity for branding anyone who doesn't like Nintendo as someone who plays nothing but Call of Duty and cares only about graphics.

I actually agree with this. Most Nintendo fanboys just seem to scapegoat Call Of Duty and others FPS games all the time and put down people for not being a drone that will like anything which is a Nintendo product.

It's defiantly not all of them, but there shared intolerance for FPS games is really a bit silly.

Just to prove I'm not a fanboy, I dislike the Wii (although I like the Wii U) and this 2DS... thing made for toddlers and those who don't know how to use the 3D toggle switch on the 3DS.

Plus, they make nothing but Mario games.

To say that this is a sweeping generalisation would be a understatement. Once again I can use your logic and say that Microsoft only makes Halo titles and Capcom only makes Mega Man titles (lol).

pkmn.master
September 1st, 2013, 07:44 PM
I feel like this is a good move on Nintendo's part. Kids throw their handhelds around all the time and this is clearly built to be durable since the 2DS is aimed at kids or those looking to save a few bucks. And it comes out around the time of Pokémon X and Y, so there is no doubt this thing will move several units.

TheChaosBlue
September 1st, 2013, 08:05 PM
Woo boy this thing.

Personally, I can see why Nintendo would want to design this and who this appeals to. It's tablet-like look is good for kids and the physical design address to the mindset of those young children. I'll admit, at first I was 'meh' on the shovel/slice of cake shape of the console, but it looks much smaller than I thought.

As far as the 3D is concerned, yeah I know the argument for the 3DS's 3D feature is that you can just turn it off through parental settings. What I don't get is how much vemon is being spewed about this thing. I'm sure those same have 3DS/3DS XLs of their own, so why does it really matter to them?

One thing I think everyone can agree on for the most part is the price. At what it costing PLUS being released on the same day as Pokemon X and Y...that's a pretty good deal.

On criticism I'll agree somewhat over is how informative will this sell to parents? That's something Nintendo had a tough time doing with the general public with the Wii U.

Sweets Witch
September 2nd, 2013, 05:08 AM
To be honest, I'm not surprised that Nintendo made a handheld console specifically for kids since that's their target demographic and it's a hell of a faithful one. If my daughter was a year or two older then I would definitely buy one for her because it's perfect for children. I'm actually really impressed with Nintendo for coming up with a solution like this to increase their sales because it's a really good move on their part. In theory, that is. There may be a chance that it might not sell, but personally I can't see it selling badly since this kind of console is a parent's dream.

Sterling
September 2nd, 2013, 10:13 AM
I'm better off sticking with the 3DS btw, I mean...I don't see much of a point in buying this bricky thingy that only takes out the ability to view 3D. I'd rather shell out a few more bucks or so, and I'd rather keep the portability the 3DS already has. The 2DS just eliminates that.

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September 2nd, 2013, 09:08 PM
For the target demographic, I think portability is not an issue as Nintendo handhelds only fit in teen/adult pockets anyway.

Morkula
September 2nd, 2013, 09:54 PM
Okay, so...I understand who they're marketing this toward (and it's not me). It's for little kids who are too young for the 3D features. I get that, and it's a decent value considering that market.

But here's what I don't get: why in the name of hell would you design a handheld for little kids and then leave the screens unprotected? Little kids break things. The clamshell design protects the screen from being broken. So why would you leave the screen out in the open like that to get smashed and scratched to hell and back? It boggles the mind.

Spinosaurus
September 3rd, 2013, 10:28 AM
Apparently they just announced a 1DS. (http://nintendo1ds.com/)

OK this is just pushing it. I'm done.

EDIT: No fun.

Morkula
September 3rd, 2013, 10:34 AM
Apparently they just announced a 1DS. (http://nintendo1ds.com/)

OK this is just pushing it. I'm done.
From the bottom of the page:
"*Not actually a real device or price. See dreams for details."

It's a fake site. A really impressive one, but fake.

donavannj
September 3rd, 2013, 10:41 AM
Okay, so...I understand who they're marketing this toward (and it's not me). It's for little kids who are too young for the 3D features. I get that, and it's a decent value considering that market.

But here's what I don't get: why in the name of hell would you design a handheld for little kids and then leave the screens unprotected? Little kids break things. The clamshell design protects the screen from being broken. So why would you leave the screen out in the open like that to get smashed and scratched to hell and back? It boggles the mind.

The benefits of the clamshell design are largely negated by the weakness of the hinges. All it takes is one drop in a public location (specifically, anything with concrete sidewalks, concrete flooring, or concrete foundation directly beneath the tiles/carpet) to completely destroy the hinges. And if a screen is going to get cracked or otherwise damaged from a fall with enough force, the clamshell design will do little to stop that.

awolfsquared
September 3rd, 2013, 10:44 AM
Apparently they just announced a 1DS. (http://nintendo1ds.com/)

OK this is just pushing it. I'm done.

EDIT: No fun.

Whoever did this made it convincingly real though. Well done to them I say. XD

droomph
September 5th, 2013, 02:23 PM
If you're 6 you probably don't have your own money yet, so your parents probably have some rules in place about playing it outside or taking it wherever you want. I bought my 3DS with my own money, I'm 16, and my mom still won't let me use it myself.

Then again, I was raised by "responsible" parents, so idk about everyone.The benefits of the clamshell design are largely negated by the weakness of the hinges. All it takes is one drop in a public location (specifically, anything with concrete sidewalks, concrete flooring, or concrete foundation directly beneath the tiles/carpet) to completely destroy the hinges. And if a screen is going to get cracked or otherwise damaged from a fall with enough force, the clamshell design will do little to stop that.

Then again, that raises the question of why one would ever even consider going outside.

Aeroblast
September 5th, 2013, 02:34 PM
Apparently they just announced a 1DS. (http://nintendo1ds.com/)

OK this is just pushing it. I'm done.

EDIT: No fun.

Wait until 0DS. Then it's just a hologram.

...Yes, I know that 1DS is a fake.

pompayyy
September 6th, 2013, 09:58 PM
Now here's what I think:
The concept is great, BUT it was executed poorly. I mean I don't own a 3DS so I'm kinda in a tight spot with X/Y coming out so soon. So a cheaper version of the 3DS that would only take away the 3D feature sounds great to me. But the true slap in the face here is the fact that it WON'T FOLD SHUT. I mean it's alright if a system like the Gameboy Color won't fold, since it has one smallish screen. But two large screens?!? You've gotta be out of your mind to think that was a good idea.

sh1nyzorua
September 11th, 2013, 06:34 PM
I kinda like it.
Money doesn't come easy to me, 3D gives me a headache (plus I've just never liked it), and I've broken the hinge on a DS Lite (or two. . eheheh >_>) before so the 2DS eliminates a bunch of problems for me, that the 3DS has. I mean, why pay the extra money for 3D when it's not even going to get used, that's silly. . .
Yeah, it's design is a little differerent. But what matters to me is the games I'll get to play, not what the handheld looks like that I'm playing the game on. :3

MKGirlism
September 23rd, 2013, 03:49 PM
I have a 2DS Panda Unit (aka, Test Unit).
I actually didn't want to get it in the first place, but it was a month before release, and NOA already started selling them on WarioWorld, so I thought, why not.
As soon as I got it, I started to love it.
Although I can't play any Retail 3DS nor DSi-Enhanced game on it, I can still play all DS games on it.
From what I've experienced, it plays pretty well, I finally use the Circle Pad in Mario Kart DS decently, the L and R Buttons are accessible and have a better grip, and it looks cute in real life.
In fact, I love it even more than my 3DS systems, I honestly think the 2DS is what Nintendo should have made at the very beginning of the entire 3DS genno, but then it'd lack their main USP: 3D without glasses.

C4
September 23rd, 2013, 04:12 PM
Amazing idea, great for people who are short on money and still want to play that Nintendo 3DS goodness.