September 11th Discussion

[Haruka]

If you outside the US, you can still talk about 9/11, but please be careful. Flaming users from the us or Flaming the United States or George Bush isn't permitted.

Now the time come, It's time to talk about what happened on Sepember 11th. Tommow, it will be the 2nd year since 9/11 happened.

Okay, anyone who gets caught up in any emtion here, anger, sadness, joy whatever will probably be the one who gets this topic closed.

-Do NOT post here if you are upset with someone

-Do NOT post here if you can't control yourself in a discussion with people with different views

-Do NOT post here if all you can do is say "Somebody sucks! Let's flame them yeeeah!"

-Do NOT try to offend anyone, be they forum leaders or members

-Do NOT swear, even if you really feel the need to. It will be edited out.


This topic is one of the most dangerous on boards, I will be watching this closely. I won't hesitate to close this, and no new ones will be made.

Keep it mature, open minded, and respectful.

And DO NOT flame other races that caused this. :P

Note to Mods: Please Sticky this now. Unsticky at 12:00 AM PT

[Dizzy]

yes be careful , we dont want any flame wars

anywho , i believe we should go to school on september 11 , because it might be fatal , also my teachers get real emotional and some people just dont care .. some peopl claimed to see the devil in smoke clouds , and that made me so sad

[Rift]

Its sick how someone would do that...i mean its just stupid, they knew we woulda went there and take em down...

[Kairi]

I didn't like that name on the thread, that could offend people.

Just because you aren't from the states doesn't mean you can't feel bad and deeply mourn that day.

Likewise, many people in the US disrespect the President, so I took that tag off.

[Frostweaver]

actually a lot of people hated bush ever since the attack on iraq (i agree on the Afghan part, but not the other half), be it US or not.

Sept 11th was truly a sad day as things go so "peaceful" that day until suddenly this crazy guy comes in and takes down so much people along with the WTC/Pentagon just to deliver some "messages?" Please get real... there's always ways to just talk things out. Don't need a plane to solve problems...

Canada didn't have anything special in school for this day and life goes on as usual. But let's not forget about the people who died this day, and the soldiers who had fought against the terrorists in Afghan 2 years ago. Their work will always be remembered.

[Miyu-chan]

I was like in a daze when my Dad first called us. I thought that It'll be fine, but I had no idea that it'll colaspe. o.O I jsut don't get what are those people thinking? *sighs* ._. *is scared to ramble more in fear of creating flamewars*

[Jason]

FGeel free to flame Osamu and Saddam for thios sort of terriosm....I think...

[Soph]

i dont really think that is a good idea, iut could create a bad argument, thois is judging from a thread at the old PC...

[Gr8Person62]

Sept 11th was truly a sad day as things go so "peaceful" that day until suddenly this crazy guy comes in and takes down so much people along with the WTC/Pentagon just to deliver some "messages?" Please get real... there's always ways to just talk things out. Don't need a plane to solve problems...



Talk things out? Tell that to your Government (Mainly President). I don't see him talking anything out. He's the one who started the war.. I feel really bad about how you only know the side of the story that was shown to you by the media.. You hardly know anything about the "truth"... Being an Arab myself, and (GrandParents) fleeing my county 20 years ago because of this, I should know.(and do)
Yes, were all sad about the deaths and all, but please, I hate stereotypes. You can't just say that the attack was to "Deliver Messages" or whatever, the attack took place for a perfectly good reason. And you think 2500 people dying is bad? How about a lot more than that (don't know the exact number, but clearly over 8000), as well as an entire county being stolen, and big chunks of other countries being attacked for land.. Hows that for terrorism? Your country does worse than it owns up to..

[Shining Arcanine]

If you outside the US, you can still talk about 9/11, but please be careful. Flaming users from the us or Flaming the United States or George Bush isn't permitted.

Now the time come, It's time to talk about what happened on Sepember 11th. Tommow, it will be the 2nd year since 9/11 happened.


Note to Mods: Please Sticky this now. Unsticky at 12:00 AM PT

So that means Al Quida and Baath Party bashing is allowed? Yay!

Gr8Person62, Al Quida and their supporters started this war by attacking the United States. Are you saying that the USA should just sit idle while people are waging a war on them?

[Jason]

tes lets all flame terriosts like osamu *** lamer and sadumb hassex

[Gr8Person62]

So that means Al Quida and Baath Party bashing is allowed? Yay!

Gr8Person62, Al Quida and their supporters started this war by attacking the United States. Are you saying that the USA should just sit idle while people are waging a war on them?
But, your not getting the point, Al Quida didn't attack the United States for the heck of it, they were retaliating. They had a good reason to attack. Just like you said, your not gonna sit idle when your county is bieng attacked. So thats exactly what they did.. They attacked... heres a Histroy Lesson:

After World War II, most of the Jewish population had died. As Germany was the county they had settled into, it no longer was, and they had no land to call their own. Therefore, no Jewish Nation. After that, there was the discovery of (very valuable) Oil in the middle east (Arab Nations). The United States took note of this, and supplied the Jewish people (Israel) with weapons and such, to wage a war on the weakest Arab nation, which was Palestine.. In hope of an accomplishment of taking over some countries, and Israel to supply the United States with Oil. They succeeded in overthrowing the Palestinians, and continued to battle other countries for more land.
The Wealthiest and most powerfull Arab nation, Syria, took action against this, and helped other Arab nations claim back their land, and they did. Till this day though, Palestine and Israel are still at war, as you should frequently se on the news. Most parts of some Arab nations where blown up to pieces (Including my home town, but that was long ago).. The United States where blamed for this.. The Attack on September the 11th was Revenge, and a warning to the United States.

Thats the simplest way I can put it.. You might want to lok futher into that if you want, but it's a loooong story, including owning of religious land where supposedly Jesus was born (called, "The Holy Land") and Anti-Jewdaism...

[Shining Arcanine]

Yeah, I will start:

http://osama%20Bin.laden.youarelame.com/

http://saddam.hussein.youarelame.com/

[Gr8Person62]

Sometimes it's clear to me that most PC members are just pathetic and immature, no matter how mature they may seem at first -_-

If you want, I could turn this into a flame war...

[Shining Arcanine]

Exactly who do you mean by "some?"

[Gr8Person62]

Exactly what do you mean by that?... I wouldn't be surprised if you edited, or deleted your post by the time I post this...

Ok, so It's alright to flame the ones who attacked the United States, but it's not alright to flame the United States and it's President? Huh, you guys should grow up..

It seems to me that all you guys are, are just a bunch of idiots who live their lives influenced by the media, and base all aspects of life on stereotypes.. Of all People, SA, who would have thought you'd be one of them.. well, I'm ****ed off now, so I'm outta here...

[Shining Arcanine]

Exactly what do you mean by that?... I wouldn't be surprised if you edited, or deleted your post by the time I post this...

Ok, so It's alright to flame the ones who attacked the United States, but it's not alright to flame the United States and it's President? Huh, you guys should grow up..

It seems to me that all you guys are, are just a bunch of idiots who live their lives influenced by the media, and base all aspects of life on stereotypes.. Of all People, SA, who would have thought you'd be one of them.. well, I'm pissed off now, so I'm outta here...

So does this mean you support, endorse, etc terrorism? Do you have any idea how many people died 9/11 because of a bunch of faithless cowards?

[Gr8Person62]

No I don't endorse it. I just hate people who think whatever they heard is always right.. You think it's sad that people died on 9/11? How would you like to live in a country when hundreds of people die each weak because of your country.. How would you like to be living in fear every minute of your life, knowing that at any moment, some bloody jew will come out of no where and blow you up, as a warning to your country to surrender or they'll do more of this?? Huh?
ust cause there was a terror attack on your country doesn't mean your country isn't doing anything... they started this because of their selfishness, and hunger for money. The lives of others outside their country doesn't mean much to them... They want to be the most powerfull. They have to be.. thats the way they see things. they want to run the world.. What their doing is completly against God's will...
But I'm not just gonna sit here, and read crap from people, which isn't even half true. You hardly know the full story to even begin judging who's the good guy, and who's the bad...

[Shining Arcanine]

I know the full story and I am not going to debate with you over that.

Btw, for disrespect towards forum leaders, should I ban you for 24 hours now or wait for an admin to come online?

[Jason]

Who are you treating to ban? If you trying to ban gr8person65...dont! He is a good person...

[Shining Arcanine]

Gr8Person62, just disrespected myself and has stated that people do not have the right to make money. He is no longer on my good side and I will speak to an admin regarding him. Lets get back on topic or I will close this thread.

[Jason]

ok... i want to talk to yu aboput him on aim/msn so lets go back on topic

[latiosspud]

Gr8Person62, just disrespected myself and has stated that people do not have the right to make money. He is no longer on my good side and I will speak to an admin regarding him. Lets get back on topic or I will close this thread.
No, you disrespected him...just because he supports whatever he does you can't ban for that.

[Jason]

No, you disrespected him...just because he supports whatever he does you can't ban for that.i agreed with latiasspuds. you just disrespective other members. Mods have to respect others not disrespect like latiossqud said

[Gr8Person62]

.. I just get carried away when it comes to this subject. I'v had hard times in life because of it, and I just can't stand it when people start talking about it in the wrong way.. Sorry for all the controversy, ban me if you must, I don't mind. Even if the Get together is tomorow, your just upsetting members by me not bieng there..

Once again: I just like to stand up for what I believe in.. No disrespect intended... Really, I was just angry.

[Jason]

The get together didnt start til sunday

[DS / StarCaliber]

I prefer to remember 11/9 as a day to remember all innocent people who died in acts of terrorism, war and conflict. Whether those be Americans or not, we are all human beings and owe it to ourselves not to forget those whose lives were tragically ended; no matter whose flag they fly.

[Kairi]

Okay, anyone who gets caught up in any emtion here, anger, sadness, joy whatever will probably be the one who gets this topic closed.

-Do NOT post here if you are upset with someone

-Do NOT post here if you can't control yourself in a discussion with people with different views

-Do NOT post here if all you can do is say "Somebody sucks! Let's flame them yeeeah!"

-Do NOT try to offend anyone, be they forum leaders or members

-Do NOT swear, even if you really feel the need to. It will be edited out.


This topic is one of the most dangerous on boards, I will be watching this closely. I won't hesitate to close this, and no new ones will be made.

Keep it mature, open minded, and respectful.

[Iveechan]

Personally, it was sad and scary and stuff the day it happened, but I don't care anymore. People die everyday, but because so many people dies on 9/11 and the fall of the twin towers, this event got the most coverage. But time goes on, and I don't really feel sad about 9/11. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just telling the truth, I have nuetral feelings and will treat this day like any other day and not watch TV (because I know that's all they're going to talk about). I also feel sad for the middle eastern civilians who got killed in this silly war.

How come nobody talks about the Oklahoma bombing anymore where the terrorist was american...?

[Arcanine]

Ok I got to say this. You say we dont get the full story Gr8Person62, well do you live in the US to me its more like you dont get the full story, and if you call US members of PC pathetic and idiots you can say that but I will say this. The President didnt start this, this war needed to be done way before 9/11. We will not just sit here when we were attacked, now you say we should have just said so what if thay attacked us we will just let them go this time, if we did then there would have been more attacks on the US. The US was attacked not Australia not the UK not France the US was attacked we have every rite to fight back not just sit there and take it like you said we should have done. And people in the US dont live there life in fear, if you do then your wrong.
Well thats off my mind now.

[Haruka]

Hmmmm. I thought that it's going to be safe... hmmm. now I see.. please try to express feeling in a respectful way.

Now, Back to topic. It's wasn't President Bush's fualt for 9/11. It's terriorists.. Hmmmm. As you see, you can find infomation on it on the internet. We should respect the people who died. Not flame them... :(

Did someone called me a idiot?

[Shining Arcanine]

No, you disrespected him...just because he supports whatever he does you can't ban for that.

He disrespected me. I replied to Jason saying I would be the first one to start bashing Al Quida. Then he went insulted me. Next he attempted to justify the 9/11 attacks.

[Haruka]

And also... no bashing Al Quida folks... :P... for the safe side.

[Rukario]

Well as far as I know (and I have inside sources) we have done NOTHING to the 'terrorists' except try to shut them down.. now if they take offense to that oh well - what they are doing IS illegal under international law so it's there own fault, period.

We attacted after 9/11 because we had quite strong evidence pointing to those who did it and to those who support them.. we still have that evidence as well as comfirming statements from bin ladan, etc.

NOTHING any of you think is gonna make a difference in the USA's response or current actions.. the terrorists and those who support them (i.e. Iraq) will go down.. NONE of can say what they did was right or even called for.. it wasn't..


But, your not getting the point, Al Quida didn't attack the United States for the heck of it, they were retaliating. They had a good reason to attack. Just like you said, your not gonna sit idle when your county is bieng attacked. So thats exactly what they did.. They attacked... heres a Histroy Lesson:

After World War II, most of the Jewish population had died. As Germany was the county they had settled into, it no longer was, and they had no land to call their own. Therefore, no Jewish Nation. After that, there was the discovery of (very valuable) Oil in the middle east (Arab Nations). The United States took note of this, and supplied the Jewish people (Israel) with weapons and such, to wage a war on the weakest Arab nation, which was Palestine.. In hope of an accomplishment of taking over some countries, and Israel to supply the United States with Oil. They succeeded in overthrowing the Palestinians, and continued to battle other countries for more land.
The Wealthiest and most powerfull Arab nation, Syria, took action against this, and helped other Arab nations claim back their land, and they did. Till this day though, Palestine and Israel are still at war, as you should frequently se on the news. Most parts of some Arab nations where blown up to pieces (Including my home town, but that was long ago).. The United States where blamed for this.. The Attack on September the 11th was Revenge, and a warning to the United States.

Thats the simplest way I can put it.. You might want to lok futher into that if you want, but it's a loooong story, including owning of religious land where supposedly Jesus was born (called, "The Holy Land") and Anti-Jewdaism...
No one cares... there are legal way to accomplish their goals.. not terror.. terror is illegal under most all international laws and agreements.


Ok, so It's alright to flame the ones who attacked the United States, but it's not alright to flame the United States and it's President? Huh, you guys should grow up..
Yes.. they attacked without provication. they will be flamed (and destroyed - this is the official posistion of PC)

I could go on but you all get the point.

[22sa]

Around 2950 Americans died from 9/11, that's more than Pearl Harbour which was 62 years ago. The Americans said they will never forget the day of Pearl Harbour was bombed by the Japanese and they declared war on the Japanese right away and no one said no to waging war. So, either because they probably wanted revenge for Pearl Harbour that day, if that's so, than America may have felt the same way for 9/11 and wanted revenge.

[Haruka]

Around 2950 Americans died from 9/11, that's more than Pearl Harbour which was 62 years ago. The Americans said they will never forget the day of Pearl Harbour was bombed by the Japanese and they declared war on the Japanese right away and no one said no to waging war. So, either because they probably wanted revenge for Pearl Harbour that day, if that's so, than America may have felt the same way for 9/11 and wanted revenge.
No, Actally it's 3,000 to be exact.. I heard it on the news..... Well, 9/11 have a big impact in America. You know that 3,000 innocent people died because of terrorists. We don't want a another 9/11 to happen again. So we should hope that something like this won't happen again.

[latiosspud]

No, Actally it's 3,000 to be exact.. I heard it on the news..... Well, 9/11 have a big impact in America. You know that 3,000 innocent people died because of terrorists. We don't want a another 9/11 to happen again. So we should hope that something like this won't happen again.
Well I heard it was almost 3000.

[Haruka]

Hmmmm.. Almost 3,000 People died on 9/11.. Okay...

Well, How did you feel when you heard the news?

[latiosspud]

Hmmmm.. Almost 3,000 People died on 9/11.. Okay...

Well, How did you feel when you heard the news?
To be honest I was more worried that my parent's stocks would go bankrupt then the people who were in the WTC. I didn't know it was going to collapse.

[22sa]

Hmmmm.. Almost 3,000 People died on 9/11.. Okay...

Well, How did you feel when you heard the news?
That's why I said around 2950.:p

I'm not exactly moved by the statistics, but that's just me.:) 3000 is no suprise.

[John Denver]

Hmmmm.. Almost 3,000 People died on 9/11.. Okay...

Well, How did you feel when you heard the news?

I'm a horribly apathetic person...9/11 did not affect me much, even though I do not really like to admit it...

boo ya :(

[22sa]

Yeah, it was just that it got popular quick X_x;;;;

[Jason]

Boo ya then Dakota.....9/11 doesnt affect me much either!!!!

[22sa]

Boo ya then Dakota.....9/11 doesnt affect me much either!!!!
Probably because you're in Australia.:p

[Jason]

Your sooooo correct! Your correct 22sa!!!! Heheheheheheh!!!!!

[22sa]

Like I always am?:p J/K :D

[Kairi]

Well, it seems this didn't go too far. Perhaps for the best, seeing as how people get so upset. Anyways, unstick and close.