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jynx
January 4th, 2004, 01:27 AM
Sigh...I hope you know what I mean and what was going on.

1. Do you agree that that particullar Pokemon should be banned in cartoon?

2. And in other products?

3. Do you wish it to be unbanned and appear on TV again?

4. Do you agree that all Pokemon should get equal chances to appear in anime?

5. Are you brave enough complain the TV company?

Lanceiscool
January 5th, 2004, 06:39 AM
What do you mean? Some pokemon just don't get as much attention in things, that's all...

jynx
January 6th, 2004, 04:38 AM
JYNX IS BANNED!!!!!
Don't you know that?

Porygon
January 6th, 2004, 08:46 AM
Whaa? I've seen Jynx in some episodes. At least I think I have.

jynx
January 6th, 2004, 09:47 AM
Have you seen "The Ice Cave"?
Did Jynx appear in "All things bright and beautifly" when you watch it?

NOOO!! Isn't it? It was banned!

Raydrogiga
January 6th, 2004, 11:43 AM
What!??
OMG,I wonder who is the dubbers' next victim.....
Now,answers of your questions....


1)No,there is no reason for that.
2)See above
3)Yes!
4)Yes,they shouldn't focus on only one and forget about the others.
5)No......

Timbjerr
January 6th, 2004, 01:29 PM
I heard that there was a good reason that jynx was banned from the anime series (at least it is a good reason that really makes no sense to me or anyone else XD)

the story goes like this: There was this African American family with a little kid that likes pokmon. One day, the mother went to see what the son was doing on his pokmon game. The mother saw him looking at the pokdex screen for a pokmon called Jynx. She immediately took offense to the physical ghetto black hooker stereotypes present in the pokemon (i.e. the black skin, big lips, busty figure, long blonde hair). The mother filed a lawsuit against NoA, but lost. As a result though, Nintendo and all other companies associated with pokmon are careful as to what exposure Jynx gets so as not to upset the African American community. This includes not showing Jynx in the anime, not putting Jynx in Ru/Sa games, ect.

Rift
January 6th, 2004, 03:00 PM
well...Jynx was in one episode ^_^; it was an episode sometime after the Porygon inccedint in Japan, after the kids had seizures Pokemon was banned from TV for a while and they skipped the episode where Ash is stuck in the snow and the episode with Santa, it had Jynx in it, so im guessing the lawsuit came after that episode

igtica
January 7th, 2004, 01:44 AM
lol well they still show the ep 'Holiday Hi-jynx' here in the uk :p It was on at xmas (the santa one). lol they show it every year along with 'there's snow way out' :p Any one notice that Holiday hi-jynx is the only ep ( for me There may be others) where Jesse says the title?

Porygon
January 7th, 2004, 08:35 AM
I had a chance to watch that one, but go figure, I missed it blaha

jynx
January 7th, 2004, 09:37 AM
well...Jynx was in one episode ^_^; it was an episode sometime after the Porygon inccedint in Japan, after the kids had seizures Pokemon was banned from TV for a while and they skipped the episode where Ash is stuck in the snow and the episode with Santa, it had Jynx in it, so im guessing the lawsuit came after that episode
That was ages ago... (although recently for Hong Kong XD)
And it was because of this...that Carole Boston Weatherford...wrote an NEWS PAPER ARTICLE, "Politically Incorrect Pokemon" (find it on the internet)

And it was banned.

jynx
January 7th, 2004, 09:38 AM
lol well they still show the ep 'Holiday Hi-jynx' here in the uk :p It was on at xmas (the santa one). lol they show it every year along with 'there's snow way out' :p Any one notice that Holiday hi-jynx is the only ep ( for me There may be others) where Jesse says the title?
Really? Do they? Including this year?

OH, MISS McLEOD! CAN WE HAVE SKY TV IN OUR BOARDING HOUSE?
PLEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSEEEEEE!!!!!!!

Jinona
January 11th, 2004, 12:55 PM
I remember that episode I can only remember bits and peices of it but it was pretty good I haven't seen it since.

Sudowoodo_prince
January 13th, 2004, 12:20 PM
Well, I heard that pokemon episode 'the ice cave' was banned because Brock got a cold, and there was news on sars at that time, and nintendo couldn't risk another law suit...some people would see the cold as a reference to sars, and would be afraid it'd scare little children from playing in the snow...
...Besides, I heard they made Jynx purple....there's a whole article about it on Dogasu's site.

NaVeR
January 13th, 2004, 11:27 PM
what does changing color have to do with banning?...
4kids weird...or whoever changed the color...

jynx
January 14th, 2004, 12:30 AM
Well, I heard that pokemon episode 'the ice cave' was banned because Brock got a cold, and there was news on sars at that time, and nintendo couldn't risk another law suit...some people would see the cold as a reference to sars, and would be afraid it'd scare little children from playing in the snow...
...Besides, I heard they made Jynx purple....there's a whole article about it on Dogasu's site.
I thought the reason was "Brock and Jynx nearly kissed."

Changed it to purple!?!? o_O|||
I thought it was ORIGINALLY purple!!

Aw...I WAS accusing USA changed Jynx's face from black to purple themselves! Was I really the opposite way round?
But...but...but in fact, in fact, ALL the PM books in Hong Kong have Jynx with purple face! AND they were published in year 1999!

Tweak
January 14th, 2004, 11:32 AM
:P i think that's stupid, people are just trying to make money offa large companies. i thought jynx was okay, i never thought of it in refrence to something bad. o_O; i just thought it was some messed up pokemon idea.

=-= purple is usually a faded color of black in graphics. they have that scene where jynx was hugging brock and almost kissing him in one of the pokemon music videos.

Kairyu
January 14th, 2004, 11:43 AM
Ok so just to recap, the only Pokemon that actually got banned from american tv is Jynx and Porygon?

jynx
January 14th, 2004, 11:47 AM
I have found more infromation:
1. The book with Jynx with purple faces, were all published BEFORE 1999.
2. The article that Carole Boston Weatherford(CBW), "Politically Incorrect Pokemon",was written on 5th January, 2000


Conclusion: 1.JYNX'S FACE HAS ALWAYS BEEN PURPLE.
2. CBW is VERY wrong!!!

jynx
January 14th, 2004, 11:51 AM
Ok so just to recap, the only Pokemon that actually got banned from american tv is Jynx and Porygon?
I don't think that Porygon is actually banned.
It's only Porygon'S EPISODE that is banned.

Besides, New York Pokemon Center still sells Porygon stuff.

Year2001, set of 151Pokemon, New York Pokemon Center changed POkemon #124, Jynx into SURFING PIKACHU.
Thus, in that set of Pokemon toys, Pokemon number 124 is Surfing Pikachu.

ChaoX
January 17th, 2004, 08:38 PM
why dont they just make another episode with porygon in it?

jynx
January 18th, 2004, 09:04 AM
That's because Porygon is a very very rarre Pokeon and unatural!!

SonicUmbreon
January 18th, 2004, 09:01 PM
Jynx being banned?! That is the dumbest thing I ever heard... Jynx is just a video game sprite or a dawing, nothing to realy offend people.. But I have heard Jynx was copied of a real life person, but not African American.


BOO ya! Hmm, I like it!

PM2008
January 18th, 2004, 09:17 PM
I honestly think that that is dumb, I would have ever thought that Jynx looks like an African American. Why would pokemon risk losing ratings for racism? The Ice cave episode was Supposedly banned because of the SARS cases around the time the were supposed to pass those episodes, but with the recent banning of jynx in All thing bright and beautifly a person might get suspicious. Anyway, if you look at many official pokemon pictures of Jynx including the original pic of Jynx she is PURPLE. :pirate:

jynx
January 19th, 2004, 10:42 AM
Jynx being banned?! That is the dumbest thing I ever heard... Jynx is just a video game sprite or a dawing, nothing to realy offend people.. But I have heard Jynx was copied of a real life person, but not African American.


BOO ya! Hmm, I like it!
Really?
Porbably a random woman for letting ppl know how to draw stuff. e.g. hair, etc.

Besides, I think its impossible to find African-American in Japan, appart from tourists.

Rift
January 19th, 2004, 02:15 PM
ya i agree with ya Jynx...that whole ban thing is stupid...Jynx is puwple! and that African American family probly just wanted to sue and get some extra cash...-_-;

ChaoX
January 19th, 2004, 04:26 PM
the whole African American thing is ridiculous, i mean its just the color of jynxs skin. Look at say Umbrion. Its black. Why dont they sew it

jynx
January 20th, 2004, 05:29 AM
Ya.
Even thought if "my" face is black, what's the problem?

But in fact, that Carole Boston Weatherford is a famous writer and won a lot of awards...(and I wonder why those badly written books which reads similar can all get those awards!!!)

And in another news article, she said that at first, she thought that Jynx was an abberation, but changed her point of view after seeing Mr. Popo of DragonballZ.

I don't know about dragonball, but I am sure that Pokemon doesn't mean it!
Seeing that Phoebe is a pretty elite4!

The problem is, CBW never replies her E-mails!!!! (she blocked my E-mail addresses!!!)No1 ever knows what she thinks.
Well, maybe we can some how get into contact with her 2 sons, which used to play Pokemon.

jynx
January 21st, 2004, 03:04 AM
the whole African American thing is ridiculous, i mean its just the color of jynxs skin. Look at say Umbrion. Its black. Why dont they sew it
ya! Hey, coal is black, jet is black, a cat can be black...gorillas are black...
Black is a pretty natural colour. Why can't they use it?

And why don't say things like, "Simpsons clearly insults yellow people."?
Or Mickey Mouse clearly insults white poeple? =.=

Yamichu
January 21st, 2004, 11:28 PM
Hey Jynx what do ya reckon CBW will say when she sees this?

http://www.pkmn.co.uk/games/advance/rssprites/pkrs202[1].gif


Deoxys is an insult to orange and bluey greeny people? Or Deoxys is an insult to aliens?NO, I KNOW WHAT SHE'LL SAY! "DEOXYS IS AN INSULT TO MY APPEARANCE!"

Sudowoodo_prince
January 21st, 2004, 11:42 PM
Yeah, and Jynx wasn't portrayed a slave in any way in the episode with Santa claus, unless...THE JYNX ARE SANTA'S SLAVES!!!!!
Yes, it was sooooo obvious...In other words, Jynx isn't a politically
(In)correct pokemon. You know, Jynx, you have a good point (Along with the others who agree)
Like do they call Brock politically incorrect because he's got those eyes?
nup, come to think of it, no-one's really noticed it too much.

Yamichu
January 21st, 2004, 11:53 PM
Yeah, in the Santa episode they weren't slaves! I mean come on! Lol, it would be soooooo funny if she tried to ban Brock! "African's DO have eyes and Nintendo is insulting them!" lol. CBW can kiss mah a**! Sorry just had to say that! I made something for "CBW" to stand for besides her name! It's too insulting to post here though...


~HORN!

Sudowoodo_prince
January 22nd, 2004, 12:00 AM
No, Brock's eyes are based on those japanese guys...with those eyes...
Well, everyone's entitled to their own opinion...Then again, I haven't found the article.

Sudowoodo_prince
January 22nd, 2004, 12:23 AM
Okay, I have found the article, and here's what I have to say...

Firstly, She explains it in that usual 'convincement' way, like with those things suggesting pokemon encourages boys to dress up as girls and to get their own pets to kill each other. Well, most shows can't show a moral message unless it's got some stuff kids like in it. take the Simpsons for example. It has many morals yet it has violence and hobos and stuff in it.
Anyway, I hate how people against it always rant in that way!

Secondly, she seems to think Jynx is based on 'Sambo' I've seen it...they're like black rag dolls. I guess they kind of look like Jynx, but I haven't seen a Jynx rag doll yet, so I still think the pokemon's innocent.

Thirdly, she thinks the name 'jynx' is wrong, with it being like 'Jinx' and linking it up to Nintendo calling african americans bad luck.
Well, I don't know what Jynx's japanese name is, but it was changed to Jynx by america.

Lastly, any show can be seen as bad if you spot tiny flaws.
from preschool shows like Blue's Clue's(I'm going to put up a fake rant about it in a new thread. to cartoons like Spongebob.

orange*berry
January 22nd, 2004, 01:16 AM
Thirdly, she thinks the name 'jynx' is wrong, with it being like 'Jinx' and linking it up to Nintendo calling african americans bad luck.
Well, I don't know what Jynx's japanese name is, but it was changed to Jynx by america.

It's Ruujura, and you made a very good point there. n.n()
I read this article a while back on Dogasu's site. As he pointed out, Japan doesn't have the ethnic deveristy of America, so this so-called 'black steriotype' is basically unknown to them. It's not like they planned to dub the series into English in the first place, so of course this kind of thing is accepted in Japan. *Shurgs*

Yamichu
January 22nd, 2004, 03:09 AM
No, Brock's eyes are based on those japanese guys...with those eyes...
Well, everyone's entitled to their own opinion...Then again, I haven't found the article.

Lol. Yeah I know but I'm talking about CBW here... She reckons the worlds against African-Americans or whatever she is...


~HORN!

jynx
January 22nd, 2004, 05:32 AM
Ruujura (Jynx's Jap name) means Lipsticked girl...or something similar.

Nothing to do with racism--Africans didn't invent lipsticks, besides I haven't seen one useing lipsticks!


And...the Deoxys stuff...XDDDDDD
That will be crazy!

Unown_
January 22nd, 2004, 11:46 AM
No, Brock's eyes are based on those japanese guys...with those eyes...
Well, everyone's entitled to their own opinion...Then again, I haven't found the article.

Brock isn't the first one with that kind of eyes. It's just that animators sometimes like to draw characters like that. Xellos (attachment 1) from the anime "The Slayers" series has the same type of eyes and there is also Chichiri (attachment 2) from "Fuushgi Yuugi". They both look like that the entire serie. I'm sure there are more series where the characters have that kind of eyes.

jynx
January 23rd, 2004, 08:17 AM
Wow ha My friend is obsessed in Fushigi Yuugi.

And one more thing, I've asked one more African about the news paper article "Politically Incorrect Pokemon". And she said that Jynx is nothing offensive to her.
Another African's reply was, "That's stupid! Who the **** wrote this silly stuff?"

KDE King
March 6th, 2007, 05:23 PM
they changed Jynx to white....

Hiroshi Sotomura
March 7th, 2007, 12:22 AM
No they didn't, it's purple. Also note that this is a revived thread (it's more than 2 years old!), which you're not even supposed to post in. The limit is 30 days forum-wide, so in future, please remember to heed to this. ^_^

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