pokemon help?

[hieitheswordsman]

i need to strengthen my party to beat the elite five
im going to keep 2 pokemon:

swampert lv.59
groudon lv.55


please tell me the best 4 pokemon to put in my party besides swampert and groudon
i also need to know the best movesets for swampert and groudon
thankyou

[The Overlord]

Well i can give you some stuff for Swampert and Groudon for

Swampert

Muddy water
Surf
Ice beam
Earthquake

Groudon

Fireblast
Solor beam
Overheat
Calm mind

[Ice demon]

Take
Swampert-surf, ice beam, earthquake, rest@chesto berry
Groudon -brick break/fire blast, bulk up, rest, ancientpower@chesto berry
or Groudon -fire blast, rest, bulk up, earthquake@chesto berry

I suggest using the first Groudon without fire blast with an adament are jolly personality.
If must take the second one, use quiet personality.
For more help u have to tell us what other pokemon u want to use.We can't tell u what pokemon to use it will take the fun out of it.However we can help u with the move sets if we get the pokemon + personality + item ^_^.

[hieitheswordsman]

i want zangoose but i never caught him so how do i raise a lv.17 zangoose up to like lv. 45 or 50.i also need to know where to catch bagon or is he only on one game ?

[Dragon Man]

You can catch Bagon in Meteor Falls in the 4th Basement. Can't remember how to get there...*Scratches head* But you can catch them from Level 25 to 35, I believe.
Groudon @ Chesto Berry
Rest
Bulk Up
Earthquake
Flamethrower
Swampert @ Chesto Berry/Leftovers
Rest
Surf
Ice Beam
Earthquake
(Same as Ice Demon's)

[Swampling]

Ah! A Place Where I Am Good At!


My Main Team Members For Beating The Elite Four:


Blaziken L61 - Charcoal

Secret Power
Blaze Kick
Sky Uppercut
Slash

Kyogre L53 - Amulet Coin

Dive
Ice Beam
Hydro Pump
Waterfall


Heal After EAch Battle. Grow Lots Of Leppa Berries. They Restore 10PP. Buy Lots Of Potions.

You Ought To Even Have Little Potions like Potion Or Super Potion. Just For A Small Top Up

Buy Lots Of Revives And Full Resores.

Thats About It.

If You Havent Got Lots Of Strong Pokemon, just get some weaker ones that can withstand ne hit. that way, if your pokemon faints, switch to them and use a revive. then switch back to the strong one! ^-^


Bagon is found in meteor falls. here are the directions:


From The Entrance South Of Fallabror.
You Need A Pokemon With Surf.
You Need A Pokemon With Waterfall.

Go Left, Across The Bridge.
Surf Up The Water, And Go Up The Waterfall.
Straight Ahead And Through The Door/Entrance
Go Right And Down The Ladder
Go Down Left Up And Up The LAdder
Up Up Up! ^-^
Then Right And BOING BOING BOING! Down! STICK TO THE LEFT on the way down!
When You Get To The Last Thingy, Go LEFT, Not Down The Jump
Go Down The Little Ladder My Friend! =P
Go Down And Surf!
Up, Onto The Land.
Through The Door!
Surf Up
Nothing There? O.o


You DID Come All The Way For This Empty Cave. Yup.

Walk Up and Down. A Bagon Will Appear! Catch It! You Have A Bagon!

O.O

This Is The Only Place Bagons Come. ^-^ On That Lil Strip Of Land! There Are Also The Golbats Zubats And Lunatones/Solrocks

Bagon Are There Though. Yup. They Are There. o.o


Hope That I Detailed It Enough! XP

[Ice demon]

For salamence- rest, dragon dance, brick break/HP fighting, aerial ace@chesto berry
Zangoose- slash, aerial ace, sword dance, crush claw

How about some other pokemon.I am not very sure about Zangoose i have never used him or looked him up.For the elite four just have high levels and a few good pokemon and u win.There is no need to have any fancy move sets.

Swampling what kind of Kyroge is that 3 water moves?????? Did u delete calm mind :shocked:
Try this -calm mind, surf, ice beam/thunder, rest@chesto berry.
Use calm mind until u are at max SpA and SpD and then rest.After that use your attacks and destroy everything.I like ice beam but,thunder works great with drizzle.

[Frostweaver]

keep in mind that Shedinja's nickname is the "Kyogre-maul"... watch out for that.

Zangoose is pretty good with this...

Zangoose- adamant @ leftovers/lum berry
-return
-sword dance
-shadowball
-brick break

Covers a lot of good elements as well as Snorlax/Skarmory mauling... Pretty effective against Claydol and Dusclops (before DT) as well. If you want, you can substitute quick attack instead of shadowball to rid endure-abusers as well.

@ Ice Demon: never use slash. it's worthless now because the critical rate is so low... plus it ignores stat buffs so sword dance with slash is pure contradicting. NEVER USE SLASH!

[Ice demon]

Wait.......WHAT!!!!!!Slash ignores sword dance???
Well i guess i wouldn't know since i have never really used it along with sword dance.Anyway now i know ^_^.
What sort of personality to use on shedinja/ninjask.I mean what sort of personality should be looked for in a nincada - adament or jolly or what ??????

[Frostweaver]

for shedinja, it's beyond doubt anything that increases attack power is good (preferably scarifice one of the defense as you have no defense ;p)

for ninjask, i suppose that adamant works too... but you may want to buff one of the def actually because ninjask is meant to chain pass not to sweep anyway...

[The Vince Knight]

I don't think that Shedinja is good buecause of 1 hp... but wonder guard makes it powerful!

[Frostweaver]

Shedinja is pure chaos if you're not careful enough if you're up against one. It can possibly just stand there to sweep your entire team. Usually Shedinja automatically destroys the usefulness for half of your team due to WonderGuard, and its shadowball is pretty deadly within itself.

[latias rocks]

If i were you i would have a shedinja but also not buy any potions but keep doin the elite 4 so you can cain levels(dont buy potions till you are ready because it will waste your money) that might take a long time so you could also catch some ok pokemon like larion at victory road. That what i did.

[Yamichu]

Latias Rocks, he probalby just wants to beat the E-4 quickly so he catch Lati@s/do the battle tower. So I reckomend having a team of around 3-6 Lv. 50-60 pokemon and buying lots of Full Restors but thats just my opinion. On Sapphire it's simple...Kyogre and Blazkiken plus alot of Full Restors...
btw Lairon/Aggron isn't that good...it has to many weaknesess...


~HORN!

[Frostweaver]

Aggron is pretty terrible with x4 weakness to the very common earthquake and brick break... ingame well anything is usable but just have to beware (for competitive play it's still usable but I fail to use this due to my lack of skill)

please... don't train with elite 4. Rare candy your way. Check the advanced trainers' guide for explanations.

[IceKitten]

Also max ur poké's stats b4 lv. 100, cuz if u give them stat boosters when they're lv. 100 it says it has no effect:P

[Frostweaver]

Also max ur poké's stats b4 lv. 100, cuz if u give them stat boosters when they're lv. 100 it says it has no effect:P
*knows that that is not true... it has no effect because either you have given them 10 vitamins already, or EV is already maxed (meaning that you didn't rare candy your way through which is the much much preferred way to prevent EV scars)*

[IceKitten]

Hmm, so I have 6 Pokémon at max stats already, is that rare, sir?

[Shdwfalcon]

The Elite Four and Steven isn't really a threat. I actually defeated them with four pokemon that I've caught and stuck to. They aren't really strong. Here they are at my first attempt:

Blaziken Lv61 - Slash, Blaze Kick, Sand-Attack, Sky Uppercut.
Gardevoir Lv61 - Thunderbolt, Psychic, Hypnosis, Dream Eater.
Groudon Lv61 - Slash, Rest, Earthquake, Fire Blast.
Pelipper Lv61 - Wing Attack, Surf, Fly, Ice Beam.

Matter of fact, if I go online with this quarter-baked team, I'll be trashed in no time. My standby items are:

Full Restore X12
Lava Cookie X9
Revive X7
Lemonade X6
Soda Pop X3
PP Up Berry X6 (whatever you call it)

None of my pokemon are boosted in any way, except for Blaziken, Gardevoir and Pelipper having the Effort Ribbon, since I caught them quite early in the game. The only problem you will have is facing a pokemon you utterly have no knowledge of, that's really all. :D

[pichbob]

a golbat is good medicham
swampert rock tomb ice beam earthquake muddy water