about ash´s father

[Darky]

look, I alwayas wanted to know...
Who is the father of Ash!?
He is not named in the TV show
What hapend, is he dead? or what?

Do you have any idea?

[MegaDitto]

look, I alwayas wanted to know...
Who is the father of Ash!?
He is not named in the TV show
What hapend, is he dead? or what?

Do you have any idea?
The only info told about him is on the first epsoide. Ash mom said that he left on a pokemon journey. I think he is Giovanni.

[misty_moon]

No one knowssss... *OOoooOOOoooOOOOoooOOOO*

Or at least I don't know xD

[AngelMina]

Hmm im not sure but people spread rumors saying:
Ashes father is a pokemon master
He is Giovanni like megaditto said^^
His father is a advanced gym leader
He is on a journey of his own.
I dont know if any of this is true but,, peeps been sayin that XD(only trying to help)
I wanna know who is father is to!!!!!LOL

[MegaDitto]

Hmm im not sure but people spread rumors saying:

He is on a journey of his own.
Actuaully Ash mom said that. He went on a pokemon journey like Ash. Some people think he's Ho-Ho.0.0

[Sapphire Underpants]

I bet we'll meet Ash's poppa eventually in one of the movies.....along with his uber-team of Pokemon.

[MegaDitto]

I bet we'll meet Ash's poppa eventually in one of the movies.....along with his uber-team of Pokemon.
I though of that once. And he is the villian with a legendary pokemon and him and Ash have a showoff.

[MewthreeXL]

No Star Wars playout.I don't hate Star Wars,but let Star Wars stay in Star Wars.

[Stacee]

No Star Wars playout.I don't hate Star Wars,but let Star Wars stay in Star Wars.
Hehehe that would be funny.
Some say that the red haired kid Silver is Giovanni's son. Remember in FR/LG that scientist said Giovanni's kid had red hair.

[MewthreeXL]

Go to Pokemopolis if you want to know who Ash's father is.

.........And don't believe a word of it.

[Sakuyamon]

I want to know who Ashs father is too! but I have heard some pretty wicked theorys....like that Professor Oak would be his dad....o.O; I think I prefer the Ho-oh theory better than the Oak theory....

[MewthreeXL]

That's what I meant.Oak......LOL.XD :P

[Entei Fan]

Silimar to KKRT , Shogu and Tsubasa fathers (BTW Bardock (KKRT dad) rocks! I want that daddy :)), Ash's father may look axact like him , he can't be Giovanni son , since Giovanni is "evil" (but i think duel to human stuatus , he is really stupid not evil :D) and Ash good , there for he CAN'T be his dad , or maybe Entei is his father (other than the fantasy and real one)? Ho-oh , maybe , why should he by flying toward his sons eyes?

[Crystal Clair]

Sakaki is not evil! He's just misunderstood. It's a VERY long story.
And I do believe Ash's father is Sakaki.

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Please do provide evidence that Sakaki is the father of Satoshi. Please also explain how wanting to take control of the world, steal Pokémon, and running a big crime business is a "misunderstanding?" Telling his own creation that he's nothing more than a servant to humans and that he was not created by "God" like other Pokémon were is pretty **** evil.

Also, Satoshi's father isn't important. Satoshi's the typical RPG kid who's missing a parent. o_O

[biogenetic]

all logical answers point to giovanni

[Ryoutarou]

all logical answers point to giovanni
And those logical points would be...? There has never been anything in the show hinting towards him and Satoshi being father and son.

[Elite Trainer Raven]

all logical answers point to giovanni
Please do explain because there's absolutely nothing that points to that. First person to mention the live action thing that was done in New York gets a slap across the face.

[Stevo-kun]

I don't think Giovanni is Satoshi's father because they don't look one bit like each other and I just don't think he is XD

Pokemon_Veteran

[Crystal Clair]

Please do provide evidence that Sakaki is the father of Satoshi. Please also explain how wanting to take control of the world, steal Pokémon, and running a big crime business is a "misunderstanding?" Telling his own creation that he's nothing more than a servant to humans and that he was not created by "God" like other Pokémon were is pretty **** evil.
I've been doing deep research on the Sakaki is Ash's father and I know it's true that he isn't a bit evil, maybe a little jealous but not evil. Everything in the series makes him SEEM evil.
I cant state why I so strongly believe this theory of mine because if it would be let out into the world, I would sacrifice having a secret exposed.
Oh yeah, ETR if you think my "Sakaki is not evil" theory is crazy
Ash is Italian, Richie is Italian, my fifth reincarnation back was in Fushia City, Kanto, and my best friend and I saw Ash Ketchum aka Satoshi sitting on my bed. Have a nice day now!
Whatever......

[Elite Trainer Raven]

As I said before, please also explain how wanting to take control of the world, steal Pokémon, and running a big crime business is a "misunderstanding?" Telling his own creation that he's nothing more than a servant to humans and that he was not created by "God" like other Pokémon were is pretty **** evil.

There's no misunderstanding about it. It's all bad, wrong and evil. It had nothing to do with his childhood considering Sakaki clearly wants more power than his mother wanted and does a more nasty job of running the Rocket Gang by hiring so many goons that are fit for the job of being thieves.

You still gave no evidence backing up the claim that Satoshi and Sakaki are related. You're giving nothing but "I believe it so it must be so."

[Crystal Clair]

Actually, ETR, you dont need to know.

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Well you are trying to state something that clearly has no evidence of being true. As someone who defends the truth of the series and tries to prevent stupid rumors from floating around, I'd like to know the reasonings for your belief on something like this. There's no proof of him being the father. There IS proof of him being evil and not a "misunderstood man." You've provided ziltch into this yet you insist that it's true. Personal beliefs don't mean anything.

[Crystal Clair]

Sorry ETR, the theories of my friends and I are top secret. In fact just forget what I said, please. It'll work out if you never find out.
It's not a personal belief if more than one person believes in it.

[Ryoutarou]

...You know, if you don't have proof to a theory, then just don't say anything. It's a freaking kids show not some top secret be all end all war machine. You're just saying that they are related, yet you show no proof at all...

[Crystal Clair]

You're right, I'm a little crazy. But I just cant find it in my heart to believe Team Rocket is evil. Forget all that official stuff I said. To me and my friends, Team Rocket isn't evil.
But still it'd be interesting if Sakaki will come clean and say it was a hippie society all along. Maybe that could happen.
There's only one thing for sure. Only time will tell.

[biogenetic]

ok sorry for not pointing this out before but they do have the same hair colour in one episode you can see a picture of delia ketchum behind his desk. umm sorry i can't really think of the others right now but i know there are more :)

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Same hair color means nothing. Kasumi and her three sisters each have different hair colors.

[Yami_Zidane]

well i think it could be Giovanni because it was kinda convenient that he didnt battle Satoshi when he went to get his earth badge BUT on the other hand Satoshi doesn't look like his mother so he must look like his father...look at Brock, he looks just like Flint.

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Why's it any suprise they didn't have Sakaki battle Satoshi? Satoshi clearly would have lost had he gone up against Myuutsuu. Not to mention, Satoshi's Gym battles in that region haven't all been too exciting. Sakaki's an important man in his profession. He can't just run a Gym all day.

[Sayuri no Hoshi]

OKAY! This topic has been brought up many times--and many times shall I announce my theory! Here's what I wrote from November 2003...right here on PC...^_^; (I got my first reputation points from this, too! XD)

*sigh* Unfortunately we STILL don't know who this kid's father is. All we know is that he was an accomplished Pokémon trainer according to Delia in "Pokémon Emergency!". I also heard his father was going to be revealed or elaborated more in the fifth season...*cricket noises*...we're now past the fifth season and there was no mention of him. "Pokémon Live!" the musical indicated Delia was involved with Giovanni somehow since she hung around with a group of bad kids who later became members of Team Rocket. BUT she straightened out once she met Ash's father. So apparently he isn't the Dad. However, that little scene was the American dubber's brainchild. It's up to Japan to determine who Ash's Dad is. And I also wanted to clear this up -- Why in God's name would a supposed man named Giovanni, a name of Italian origin, have the last name Ketchum, a name of Dutch/German origin?! I mean, it happens, but Brock and Misty call her "Mrs. Ketchum". That title means she's married, but who knows the technicalities as to whether or not she kept her maiden name? OKAY I'M GETTING REALLY OFF-TRACK! O_o If you want my opinion (hopefully it's factual), Giovanni is not Ash's father. *takes a deep breath and exhales slowly...*

[innuendo]

Maybe yes or maybe not Ash' s father. Who knows. Ash is stubborn just like Giovanni so...

[Elite Trainer Raven]

That's really not a good reason to think that. o_o People can share common traits with eachother and not be related. Satoshi may be stubborn but Sakaki certainly isn't. o_O;

[innuendo]

He he Sakaki is clever:) But Ash is stubborn sometimes;)

[misty_moon]

"Pokémon Live!" the musical [/I]


xD there was a pokemon musical? (How could I have missed that? o_0; )

[Shinin]

Stop calling people/pokemon by their Japanese names. We aren't in Japan.
I think it was confirmed in some thing that Giovanni is Ash's dad.

[Mario The World Champion]

I just have to post in this.

I too also have a strong feeling that Giovanni might be Ash's real father, but... I have another idea that I've thought about.

Well, let's jsut say that Ash's dad is on a Pokemon Journey himself. However, he was taken prisoner by Team Rocket and was given a choice: Join the organization or they go after Ash and Delia. So, to protect them both, Ash's dad joined Team Rocket. And this was like 3 years before Ash started his Pokemon Journey.

So, while Ash goes to the Hoenn league, Ash's dad has bome a very powerful and feared/respected member of Team Rocket.

That's just my take on the whole Ash's dad theme.

[Crystal Clair]

Stop calling people/pokemon by their Japanese names. We aren't in Japan.
Finally someone said something though I do say Sakaki, Kenji, Hazuki and Gonbe but that dont compare to ETR's Nihongo vocabulary. I dont have the time to look up the Japanese names and my school doesn't teach Japanese so why dont you just try to uh use English names a LITTLE more often even if it kills you because it only kills us if we dont know what you're talking about, ETR.

[Elite Trainer Raven]

How about no? :D I prefer to use the ORIGINAL names. Not the Americanized renames. It doesn't take you ages to use Google, nor does it take a rocket scientist to know who I'm talking about since I'm using the names on topic. ;\ So you're basically saying that if anyone has an ethnic name, I have to use an American name for them because we live in America? Real smart.

And no, there is NO confirmation that Sakaki is Satoshi's father.

[Ryoutarou]

Stop calling people/pokemon by their Japanese names. We aren't in Japan.
I think it was confirmed in some thing that Giovanni is Ash's dad.
There are a good number of members in Japan, PC isn't limited to America, y'know. Either way, you can just go look up their names. And it has never once been mentioned anywhere that the two are father and son.

[Shinin]

I can tell what you're saying after a few seconds, but it still gets a little annoying.

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Too bad because I'm not going to use the English names.

[Crystal Clair]

How about no? I prefer to use the ORIGINAL names.
Okay, cultural disfunction. Oh, that's in the ENGLISH dictionary. And you like Japanese words. Oops!
I just dare you to go for one week saying nothing but the English words. If you dont take the dare, that just proves how much of a chicken you are. Maybe you're afraid....

[smithy.boy]

wow this is a huge thread already..ye i wonder who he is.
one day , who knows we might meet him. Ye it does sound a bit like star wars
Giovanni: "ASH, i am your father...." ASH: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

[MewthreeXL]

ETR probably doesn't have the ability to use the English names.

[innuendo]

I live in Poland ;) I use English names and Japan :) Kyou, Natsume and Sakiki are good

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Okay, cultural disfunction. Oh, that's in the ENGLISH dictionary. And you like Japanese words. Oops!
I just dare you to go for one week saying nothing but the English words. If you dont take the dare, that just proves how much of a chicken you are. Maybe you're afraid....
Big difference between speaking English and using Japanese NAMES. Once again, you can speak one language and still refer to someone's name that's a different language. People do this all the time.

[Ryoutarou]

Just drop the fighting now, if you don't know peoples names...LOOK IT UP. It's a whole lot eaiser.

[Entei Fan]

wow this is a huge thread already..ye i wonder who he is.
one day , who knows we might meet him. Ye it does sound a bit like star wars
Giovanni: "ASH, i am your father...." ASH: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

I whould say i would sound alike like in DBZ , KKRT meets his big brother

Ash - "You don't like any father i would have!" (note , this form the USA dub , i forgot the original one (i don't mean the japanese one since i rarely watched those epidoses movies))

[White_Winter_Wolf]

I know it a bit crazy but i thnk Ash's dad is Lugia. I know thats a little creepy but it would make since if the chosen one's father is the guardian(that would be lugia) Plus legendaries atract legendaries and Ash atracts a lot of legendaries. Or he doesn't have a father and Hoho created him to bind the tear between human and pokemon. That Delia is just a guardian designed to rise him and thats her only meaning. I know I'm mad.

[MewthreeXL]

Ash is just really lucky.And is the star.

[Tetsu]

Ho-oh? That's just not right. Giovanni? Does ash even LOOK anywhere Near like Giovanni? And as well, I'm not so sure about the advance gym leader. Watson is too old, and sootopolis' gym leader (name escapes me) is too young, and norman already has a family. I just don't see it happening.

[obelisk-kun]

i can not tell you the answer but i know ashs mom said his father would be so proud of him i know no more sorry

[Brock101]

I actually think that in the last episode cause of the non showing in the journy's.

[SBaby]

Silimar to KKRT , Shogu and Tsubasa fathers (BTW Bardock (KKRT dad) rocks! I want that daddy :)), Ash's father may look axact like him , he can't be Giovanni son , since Giovanni is "evil" (but i think duel to human stuatus , he is really stupid not evil :D) and Ash good , there for he CAN'T be his dad , or maybe Entei is his father (other than the fantasy and real one)? Ho-oh , maybe , why should he by flying toward his sons eyes?


I was looking for a good random post from here to quote on this, and I found it.

"Giovanni is evil and Ash is good, therefore he can't be Ash's father." I guess that means Anakin couldn't have been Luke's father, since he became evil. Oh, and Muu wasn't really Holly's father, since he was evil.

Just remember the famous cliche'. Just because somebody's evil, doesn't mean he or she ISN'T related to the main character in some way. In fact if anything, it makes it more likely. Also, appearance means NOTHING in Animes or RPGs. Golbez was Cecil's brother and he was a freaking MONSTER! We never asked how it happened, we just accepted it.

Animes and RPGs love to use the 'villain being related to the main hero' cliche' on a regular basis. It means nothing, nothing at all, that the show is geared toward kids, or alleges a Captain Planet-type storyline. Since this is an Anime, they still have the chance to go with this end result.

My prediction is if Giovanni doesn't turn out to be Ash's father, which is possible (I'm not saying it's set in stone), he will indeed turn out to be a Trainer, but won't be as good of one as Ash thinks he is. He'll probably be really lousy at it, and that will be why he didn't return home, out of shame. That's also a big thing with Animes and RPGs.

Ho-Oh was NOT Ash's father. That would just be wrong. The sheer physics behind it would be mind-boggling. Plus, that would make Ash a Pokemorph anyway.

[Brock101]

Ya same here it's simple to see.

[marillmonster2000]

i think okiado-hakase is satoshi's dad, and sakaki is satoshi's uncle.

[Elite Trainer Raven]

Sakaki's too young to be Ookido-Hakase's brother whereas he's the only child that we've seen of his family (he took over the Rocket Gang after his mom left the position of boss), so he couldn't be related to Satoshi's mother.

There's absolutely no proof of Satoshi and Sakaki being related.

[White_Winter_Wolf]

I think Ash's father is Hoho. Hoho created Ash has his creation of light sent down to be the savior. Like the bible. His father on earth doesn't matter because in the end he will return to rule at Hoho's side.

[It was funny when I typed it.]

ho-oh maybe his father kinda maybe, maybe thats why ash is good with pokemon beacuse he is one jk although ho-oh maybe a reincarnated pokemon who was his dad XD

[innuendo]

Hmm Oak is Ash's dad and Giovanni is uncle? Hmm good idea :D

[Elite Trainer Raven]

I think Ash's father is Hoho. Hoho created Ash has his creation of light sent down to be the savior. Like the bible. His father on earth doesn't matter because in the end he will return to rule at Hoho's side.
FALSE. Satoshi has a mother and a father. He was born like a normal kid. Houou is not "God." Religion has no place with Pokémon and I highly doubt Japan would base it like that considering Christianity isn't exactly big over there.

As for Ookido-Hakase being Satoshi's father, it's rather creepy. He was still a much older man even when Satoshi's mother was a teen. o_O I highly doubt she'd be going for old men. Not to mention Satoshi's name would be Ookido Satoshi (or Ash Oak to you dubbies). Since he has no relation to Ookido-Hakase (plus his mother said his father was on a journey), this easily disproves the professor as his father.

[STJ]

Just out of curiosity , Elite Trainer Raven, do you have any theories as who Ash'es father is?

As for me, I think he's probably just a regular trainer, they really haven't given his character much background at all...

[Kyogre-chan]

As for me, I think he's probably just a regular trainer, they really haven't given his character much background at all...I'll have to agree with that. 99.9% of stuff thrown at us throughout the odd 400-or-so episodes of Pocket Monsters has been totally predictable, so why would you depend on the anime producers to slam out an unpredictable twist, such as Satoshi having a father?
He was still a much older man even when Satoshi's mother was a teen. o_OAlthough this theory has been countered, I do concur. There's just too big an age difference for that to be possible, especially on an anime aimed at kids.

[Elite Trainer Raven]

I've said it a thousand times, Satoshi's father isn't important. He's just a regular person that they don't need to show. Satoshi's the typical RPG kid that's missing a parent that no one really cares or mentions about. Out of 276 Pocket Monsters Episodes and 128+ Pocket Monsters AG episodes, Satoshi's father was only mentioned once and that was in Pocket Monsters episode 2.

[Kyogre-chan]

I've said it a thousand times, Satoshi's father isn't important. He's just a regular person that they don't need to show. Satoshi's the typical RPG kid that's missing a parent that no one really cares or mentions about. Out of 276 Pocket Monsters Episodes and 128+ Pocket Monsters AG episodes, Satoshi's father was only mentioned once and that was in Pocket Monsters episode 2.Exactly what I was trying to say.

[White_Winter_Wolf]

[SIZE=1]FALSE. Satoshi has a mother and a father. He was born like a normal kid. Houou is not "God." Religion has no place with Pokémon and I highly doubt Japan would base it like that considering Christianity isn't exactly big over there.

I wasn't saying Hoho's god, just powerful. Like lugia contrals everything about his legend, Hoho controls everything about his. I would make since that he created someone to serve him on earth.

[Hoshi]

well, I don't mean to be the different man, or woman in my case but I think Wataru could be Satoshi's father. It seems good to me. you don't have to agree with me, all I ask is not to flame me! *ducks*

[TTYO]

Well this according to my fic Pokemon Revenge.

Ash's Father, Henry Ketchum, was a Pokemon Master but joined the Wild Force, a division of the Pokemon G-men who protect humans from rogue wild Pokemon that attack or even kill humans. But then he discovered Team Magma's intentions. But he got captured and was imprisoned for 10 years prior to my fic. Then in second episode of Pokemon Revenge he returned and reported back to Wild Force and his family but he's now too old about 50 years old already.

Ash Ketchum is in fact the incarnation of ho-oh when he lightsaber-battle with Wugi.

You guys would have to read the fic yourselves

[Sin]

ash's father is professor elm =D.

[TTYO]

Huh?? where do you get that proof from? Ash is not so absentminded as Elm

[Ashed Ketchup]

I think Ash's father is Mewtwo. At the start of his journey, Team Rocket 'tricked' him into pkmn genetic research. Once he helped the scientists find Mew's DNA, they used his life vessel as a starter for Mewtwo's main structure. At the result of the opperation, Ash's father lost his memory, and became the Legendary Mewtwo.

I don't know for sure... this is just a fan fic I'm working on.. :) but, doesn't it make a little sense?

[Sylphiel]

Eh...don't bump threads that are over a month old, please.

*closed*