Gundam SEED/ Destiny Discussion

[Dark Penguin]

Which series do you think [so far] is better? I liked Gundam Seed MUCH better; to be perfectly honest, as big of a gundam fan as i am, i just can't get into Seed Destiny. I HATE the main character, Shinn. Can not stand him. The only ZAFT soldier i like is Lunamaria (and probably Athrun). I hate how they are making the good guys in [most] of the previous series ultra-bad, and our making the bad guys good (EA is evil, ZAFT is good). I hate ZAFT, and never will like them. I wish the true EA would seperate from teh Blue Cosmos and again become the good guys in the series.

[digi-kun]

actually, ZAFT wasn't the good guys from SEED...it was the three ships alliance...chances are they won't be in Destiny either...
i really gotta ban these ___ vs. ___ threads --; too much ranting >>;

personally, i like Destiny better probably cuz of how it's going at the time...i might start to dislike it as it goes on though...

[Kenny_C.002]

GSD>GS

Simply because first of all I'm one of those people that don't like Kira all that much, so GS gets the shaft right in the beginning.

Honestly speaking, the only good guys in the original series were the 3 ships, with both EA and ZAFT playing the bad guy roles. Right now I think something like this will repeat again, except with Orb joining in on the evil.

Anyway, GSD I think has better execution in its storyline (with a strange plot similarity to Zeta apparently. I forgot about Zeta. XD) than GS. Also they did do things that I didn't want them to do in the original series (tho they will be doing things that I don't want them to do in this series too, probably more), I think that with better execution of the plot, it can work out to GSD's advantage in the end.

[Kurosaki]

Pfft, SEED has nothing on Destiny, XD

Yeah, Destiny has a much better plot, and a wider, if not stranger, variety of character personalities, XD

Pfft Kenny, you Kira hater, XD

Yeah, at this rate, everyone's gonna end up appearing evil, but meh, we all have the Archangel if we need somewhere to turn. I could be wrong though. :P

Shinn reminds me of both Kira and Athrun for some reason. It could be the hair, but I think it's something to do personality wise, XD

[Kenny_C.002]

I don't know what Lacus sees in Kira. XD

But the episodes are going to get more and more crazy from the looks of it. (can't wait for 28!).

btw Daiaki, I like yee sig (haha I'm a unicorn table fan -_-''').

[Kurosaki]

No, the question is: What DOESN'T Kira see in Lacus? XD

Yeah, it seems to be getting a lot more insane as the episodes go on. *remembers the last few episodes of SEED* It'll start to get confusing somewhere in the 30's I think. XD

Thanks. I dunno, I just started watching that show, and found that I really liked that song, XD

[Ryoutarou]

Basically Destiny > SEED

In the frist five episodes of SEED Destiny there was more action and story than in the first twenty episodes of SEED. It's not often that a series follows through on the promise of crashing a large object into in Earth. Kira's character has gotten a lot better, not to mention no where near as whiney as he was at the end of SEED...Shinn picked up that trait.

And since SEED was more or less a rehash of MSG, of course Destiny parreles Zeta...The thing with both Four and Steller losing their memory, and the Destroy Gundam being based on the Psycho Gundam.

[Syousuke]

Yes i love this anime and i never seemt to hate it ever since. Destiny owns the original Seed. But dont take the good things of the original seed into proportion. I see this anime as very good and i dont like anyone saying that one or even both of them are crap. Because they arent. They own you.

[Ryoutarou]

Just saw the RAW of phase 28 and holy **** is all I can say, I'm not that good with Japanese yet so there were a a few things I couldn't make out...But you didin't really need to know any of it in this episode. Basically these are the main plot points....

SPOILERS AHEAD










--Shin does end up killing Auel

--Kira rips apart the Saviour

--Luna gets beaten pretty bad.

[Syousuke]

Is Phase 28 like.. Episode 28?
Auel dies? Thats not neat.. Does Stellar die? I want her to die..
Athrun loses to Kira? *cough* This is like when naruto beat Neji. O__o

[Ryoutarou]

Yeah they call the episodes Phases XD Auel I knew was gonna die, he's to reckless to live in a gundam series, steller didin't die yet though.

[Silent]

Gundam SEED Destiny

PWNZ

Gundam SEED

That's basically all I have to say. XP

[Cowrie]

Hm...trying to make a decision here, since I've seen all of Gundam Seed, and yet only up to episode 6 of Destiny (due to being at school, which basically shattered any anime-watching mood I might've had)....

Bah, I saw those spoilers before I realized it. ;_; Oh well. Serves me right for my habit of reading from the bottom of the thread up.

Hm. I liked GS best somewhere after the middle of it...though I was liking what I saw in GSD before I stopped watching it...and I do know I like GSD's opening and ending songs a bit more than I like GS's (I'm actually listening to Pride over and over right now)...

So...um...add my vote in liking Destiny is better. o_o

[Syousuke]

Im only up to episode 8. Wait im downloading 8 at the moment.
Im loving Ignited. XD
Btw I have this pretty neat question..
Why is it in the video Freedom and Force Impulse are fighting each other? (Kira & Shin)

[Ryoutarou]

Easy, if you rewatch episode one you'll notice a beam from the Freedom is what killed Shinns family. So apparently there is going to be some big final battle with the two.

[Lucid-Acid]

SEED kinda went downhill from episode 5 IMO. I’m starting to find destiny depressing, but I like it better then SEED. I watched 28 just now, and Shinn makes an arse of himself, I thought he was gonna kill Cagalli, twice. Poor Auel, another cool gundam boy gets cut up. XD

[Sorano]

Considering that I have only watched a few episodes of Gundam SEED Destiny, I have to say that Gundam SEED ish better. X3 It really holds my attention and stuff. XD But I bet once I start watching more of Destiny then I'll say differently. :33

~Karli

[Syousuke]

Further Spoiler from Blue's Post Ok I skipped all the way to 28.. Looks like Saviour got knocked out by Freedom since Athrun keeps interfering with Freedom's business..
So tahts how he died? He drowns in the water ._.
Hmm.. Saviour DID get it tho, Athrun WAS getting quite annoying. (like Sakura in Naruto). I love that episode, its fighting all over the place. XD
End Spoiler

Yet.. I thought that Freedom was fighting with Calamity. Wasnt he? *I recognized those neat cannons on top of that random gundam* Oh well. At least I know why Shin hates him. Hmmmmm..
oh #$@#! ohh sorry I misunderstood.

That cant be Calamity.

And Freedomw as the one who destroyed that Gundam so it made that big explosion. Sorry.

[Ryoutarou]

Long winded post full of spoilers coming up! XD





























Actually, out of all the characters I think Athrun is the only one of good merits. What's Kira doing? Thinking that by just dearming the EA and ZAFT forces the war will end? Hostilites will still exist and another war will break out, every time Kira comes in, someone dies. It happened with Heine and it happened with Auel. Athrun while he may be confused, he knows what he is fighting for. He just doesn't know what path to take. Cagallis, his fathers, his own, but he knows what he wants.

Kira just wants to dearm the forces and let them solve the rest of their problems, he isn't thinking things all the way through. The war may have just restarted, but there have been problems since CE 23 when the world first learned of the Coordinator. So, what's been going on for almost seventy years isn't going to end just by dearming them.

And now, Kira goes out on attacking Athrun for personal feelings, not for any real reason. Yet, Athrun let Kira win, Athrun didn't go to SEED mode, he just floated there basically, and had a lot of chances to at least get away from FREEDOM. But that also brings up that Athrun can't go to SEED because he doesn't know who his real enemies are, and he doesn't know the full extent of what he wants his ideals to be. He is torn between love for his old friends, love for his new friends, and his love for PLANT.


Although theres never a white and black to what Kira and Athrun believe in what is the right thing to do. Athrun at least has the idea of wanting to protect, what's Kira doing? He just wants the war to come to and end without having to do any real work. It all comes down to "you have to work for your ideals, they're never handed to you on a silver platter".

Athrun wants to be there for Cagalli, but he also wants to be there for ZAFT. He's torn between what he grew up being prepared for and what Cagalli wants. His main problem is to many people want him, Kira wants him to be there for Cagalli and to fight alongside him, Talia and the ret of Minerva look up to him as a war hero, PLANT looks up to him as the man that saved them from a nuclear attack. It's just people being selfish and wanting to use him for their ideas and not letting Athrun decided what he needs to do, thus messing him up more.

Oh yeah, thought I might make this our GS/D discussion thread.

[Syousuke]

Oh great. I was wondering where it went until I looked closely on the Thread List. Hmm.. Oh well.

Kira, as a matter of fact has chosen his path from the beginning..
He was assigned to war, in which started his journey. A war between the Naturals and the Coordinators. (Earth Alliance & Zodiac Alliance)
The war started because of economical losses and gains, they had too many disturbance in everyday life, so they had no other choice, but to start a war.
Around a year later, is when SEED begins..
NOTE: If you do not like me talking about the normal SEED then do not read any further









The Naturals hid their secret weapons (i.e Strike) in colony called Helipolis.. The ZAFT attacked Helipolis and stole the mecca. Leaving Strike. Helipolis was destroyed.
Kira, was brought into all this trouble that the Earth Alliance curs. Which then he met Athrun.

Athrun gets arranged a fiance with Lacus.
Then she comes over and says she likes Kira. (lol)
Then in a battle when Kira & Athrun meet in, Kira murders Nicol.
Athrun murders Tolle in the Skygrasper. Then they both go all out on with each other.

Now im not saying that I like Kira more than Athrun..
Im saying.. Athrun never had a role until his time came. He met Cagalli in which he is still with. They ended up liking each other even though they were on different sides.

He receives a gift from her before returning back to his own forces where he is reassigned to a new mobile suit and a new elite squadron for special forces operations attached to his father's command and his first order of business after hearing of the failure of Operation Spitbreak, ironically, is to hunt down both.

Thats probably the whole SEED story for Athrun.
In whcih the rest you want to hear about is the episodes.

Now for Destiny..

Gundam Seed Destiny takes place in Cosmic Era 73. By now, the war that had taken place in Gundam Seed has been long ended and new characters are appearing taking the role of the nemesis. Athrun has left ZAFT and a new counterpart appears. His name is Shin Asuka, and he is one of the leading characters in the series. Athrun is now a part of Orb along with Cagalli.

Now Kira..
Hmm....
Hes now in Orb.
Some dudes try to assissinate Lacus.
He does not agree to believe it. He protects her.

Afterwards,
Kira and the AA crew from the original SEED is going back to 'take Cagalli away.'

He ends up fighting Rey, Athrun, and some other guys in his Freedom.

This was an information post.. lol. Im just posting my knowledge on GS/D.
Thank you. XDD :\

[Ryoutarou]

Well, seeing as how the Eternal just showed up again, we might get to see Kusanagi come back and they could form the three ships alliance one last time...It's kinda like what AA is doing now, but it actually works.

[Skitty_the_Kitty]

I haven't seen Destiny yet -_-
But I like SEED, I've seen almost the whole thing, and sort of looked up what happens on the internet. Stupid YTV only airs it once a week. Making me suffer like that XD.
I so hope they air Destiny, it sounds better then SEED

[xDaRK_SuiKuNx]

only seen the first ep of Destiny, so i can only go by what i've seen...IMO at least for now, i like SEED, it seems like the characters are more...human...

[digi-kun]

well, 1 is obviously < 50 so you can't make that kinda comparison XD
BTW: Stelllar, Auel, and Sting, the 3 guys who raided the factory, are the druggies of the series (replacing Olga, Crot, and Shani)



o well, seed gets better

SPOILER FOR EPI 28















Auel couldn't ask for a better way to die: getting javalined, drowned and exploded go Auel! XD

[Ryoutarou]

I THOUGHT there was a chance he would live when I saw him underwater...Then the water around his helmet turned red...XD

[Syousuke]

Spoiler
XDD
Yes he got TRI-javelined.

Saviour lost one of its arms, then it pounded hard. I was like FINALLY. XD

Freedom was a big spotlight in that episode.

[Dark Penguin]

dang - i liked auel best of the three druggies

[digi-kun]

yes yes my ranking of the druggies of the SEED series
1. Auel
2. Stellar
3. Shani
4. Sting
5. Olga & Crot (tied for last)

[Lucid-Acid]

1. Auel
2. Stellar
3. Shani
4. Crot
5. Sting
6. Olga

I liked Crot, he seem a bit childish though. Olga and Sting are boring, but out of him and Stellar, Stings probably going to be the one that lives... XD

[Kenny_C.002]

I think all of the druggies are going to die in the end, but that's just my personal opinion. Besides, it's almost given that Stellar will die. Oh yeah, she's #1 on my durggie list, the rest all place last. XD

[Ryoutarou]

I think Sting might be the only one left in the end, so far he's had nothing to make him interesting...Meaning he's gonna live.

BTW I come baring spoilers! All of these are confirmed and will happen...And I cleaned up the sloppy English to make it easy to read.

So, don't read ahead unless you wanna be spoiled


PHASE-33: The Fallen Wing of FREEDOM

Knowing the great destructive power of the Destroy Gundam and unable to defeat it. Kira is forced to self-destruct Freedom. Despite the great power of the Destory, it is unable to withstand the blow, nor is the pilot. Shinn watches in horror as memories of his past come flooding back to him.

PHASE-34: The Foolish Mistake
Remembering what happened two years ago (the death of his family) Shinn realizes that Freedom was the cause of their death. An enraged Shinn takes on a badly damaged Freedom.

PHASE-35: The Crimson Knight Justice
Just as Shinn is about to strike the final blow Athrun appears in a new Gundam. The Dark Justice(WTF?!) was given to him by chairman Dundal. However unlike before, Athrun sensed something more, and uncovered the plans to build the Destroy.


PHASE-36: Memories
Athrun and Kira locked in battle once again(I'm assuming somehow Super-Freedom is already here). Neo comes to a realization about the truth of Gilbert Dundal wanting to produce Destroy with him. Neo tries to remember his reasons for wanting to defeat ZAFT but is unable to remember. He returns to his room and uncovers a picture of Archangel captain Murrue Ramius. (told ya' Neo was Mwu!)

PHASE-37:Goodbye
After fully restoring his memories, Neo decide to escape from EA. As he escapes he is found by EA soldiers and thrown in jail, but the Archangel makes it's decent.

PHASE-38: The Shining Wing of Justice
With a new passenger escaped from EA, Archangel makes it's way off the scene the previous battle. EA is unwilling to let Mwu go that easy, they send a rebuilt Destroy Gundam to defeat the Archangel. Dark Justice appears and defeats the Destroy. Marking the return of Athrun to the Archangel.
Sting is now the final Evident left at the EA base. Elsewhere an unseen force learns of these events, they being planning for project "DESTINY" . Sting and Rey (from Minerva and the EA base) are seen looking up at the sunset.

Stellar is killed in 33.(Shinn does the Cloud thing to her body), which means the Destroy will be at least out of comission for a while. It`ll probably be like the Psycho and Psycho mk.2 in Zeta.

Also, I think Rey and Sting might get some good story in. It mentions them looking up to that sunset right after the "unsee force" bit.

[Lucid-Acid]

*coughshutupjorgecough*
I cant wait to see how Mwu survived… XD

Poor Stellar, I was hopeing they'd wait longer to kill her off. ;;

[Dark Penguin]

i though it was infinite justince, not dark or knight justice.

[Ryoutarou]

Nope, they changed that a while ago

[digi-kun]

well, the main site says infinite, but knight justice i hear is right...not sure tho...

[Dark Penguin]

o well, i like knight justice anyways. sounds a lot cooler. I also wish the EA would find a way to make mobile armors more usable, and employ them for hit and run missions. after all, its logical that they would be faster than mobile suits, and the moebius looked really cool.

[digi-kun]

the nuclear weapons were used as hit and run...otherwise they're just support at the time

[Dark Penguin]

yeah, but mobile suits were faster than mobile armors, they said it in like ep.2 (when luke or gail, i'm not sure which one, was killed by the GINN because it was too fast for him to target).

[Zapchu]

I watched Gundam Seed episodes 1-4...then skipped to the middle. The storyline and music for the series is great...I'm wondering where to download the ending song. The animators know when to insert the ending song in the last scene to make it fit...somehow! And I find that amazing. *drools* I want to watch more!

[Kenny_C.002]

What? No! Not Stellar! Man, so quickly too...I thought she would have at least made it to the end before dying. *curses*

[Ryoutarou]

I watched Gundam Seed episodes 1-4...then skipped to the middle. The storyline and music for the series is great...I'm wondering where to download the ending song. The animators know when to insert the ending song in the last scene to make it fit...somehow! And I find that amazing. *drools* I want to watch more!
Uhh...Which ending song? I can help you if you tell me the title XD

Seems Gilbert is trying to do what Char did before him. He wants to make all Naturals into Coordinators , make everyone one race, end the war. But even then, it’s a messed up plan. Former Naturals are still going to be mad at what they became, and the Coordinators may feel betrayed or something by Gilbert.

[Dark Penguin]

Zapchu, if you are talking about Realize, the op for eps. 45-50 (i think it starts in 45, anyway), then i can send it to you through email or something because i liked it a lot too and downloaded it. And i hate it when naturals want to turn into coordinators - it makes them look like complete morons, for fighting something they wish to become (just through different methods).

[digi-kun]

i think it's reason or life goes on...assuming its SEED 1-4 or the middle

is the ending a scroll through the characters or 2 columns of characters?

[Dark Penguin]

oh, i thought he meant the ending song as in the ending song of the season (op, eps 45-50 - realize) but i think he means the ending for eps.1-(25?). i forget its name.

[Ryoutarou]

oh, i thought he meant the ending song as in the ending song of the season (op, eps 45-50 - realize) but i think he means the ending for eps.1-(25?). i forget its name.
Two things...One, Zap is a guy if that's who you meant as "he" XD and two...Zap was talking about the first Gundam SEED series I think.

[digi-kun]

o wait SEED ah stupid me XD
Anna ni issho datta no ni... is the beginning ED

spoilers(sorta)
o well, today's the "return the captive" epi
Shinn returned Stellar to Neo, Rey helped Shinn get out(and beat up the guards).

the guys that abandoned the main ship that got blown up last week joined Archangel.
now AA has Freedom, Strike Rouge, and a hell lotsa Astrays(maybe a few murasames possibly did see any tho), and Andrew's Murasame

[Dark Penguin]

a little off topic....but one reason why i hate Shinn and the ZAFT characters in seed d is because of a couple reasons. first of all, it takes impule like 5 frekin mins. to assemble, which gets old after awhile (even if they have shortened it). Also, have you ever noticed how Shinn kills EA Windams (or should i say Impulse fodder) so easily? Its like he sees em and then shoots em, and its not even hard for him and they never shoot back. I HATE THAT!!! It was never like that for Kira and the guys in Seed (except for providence, but that was understandable). Plus, Shinn and Athrun are the only ones who ever hit anything, Luna and Ray just sit there missing, and it really is sooooooo predictable and boring to watch. I hope Shinn ends up getting blown up by a Windam :D (it would make my day)

[digi-kun]

Spoilers in this area contradicting the other guy's ranting

first of all, it takes impule like 5 frekin mins. to assemble, which gets old after awhile (even if they have shortened it).
it doesn't really take Impulse 5 min. to assemble, takes about 23 seconds...unless you're talking about epi 1 where other things are going on at the same time interupting the whole thing which may have made a nice 5 min. takes Strike about 33 seconds...oh, and reason it gets old is cuz Impulse gets a lot more battles than Strike'll get...if Strike got more battles in SEED, it'd get old too.

Also, have you ever noticed how Shinn kills EA Windams (or should i say Impulse fodder) so easily? Its like he sees em and then shoots em, and its not even hard for him and they never shoot back. I HATE THAT!!! It was never like that for Kira and the guys in Seed (except for providence, but that was understandable).
Ever realize that Shinn and Athrun were trained by ZAFT before they went into battle for the first time? Kira could only rely on himself to train (but he got hella good), if you're talking about epi 16, he hadn't reprogramed his Strike yet. and in other cases, AA had all the reinforcements and stuff before Kira started to pilot Freedom. but mostly because Strike and Kira pretty much only fought the 4 stolen MSes.

Plus, Shinn and Athrun are the only ones who ever hit anything, Luna and Ray just sit there missing, and it really is sooooooo predictable and boring to watch.
Lunamaria and Rey are only seen shooting, never hitting cuz it is assumed to hit, and Zakus aren't exactly made for Earth battles so they go help protect the ship (as you may know, it's hard to hit all the enemy missiles, MSes, etc. from one point no?). The only time they show them missing is in one of those "critical states" where they make it hit Minerva to purposely deal some damage or put them in danger like in epi 28

I hope Shinn ends up getting blown up by a Windam (it would make my day)
actually, Neo(Mwu) pilots Windam and joins AA later on, besides, i doubt a mere Windam (even with Mwu's skills) can take out Destiny...only ones that'd be able to land a hit on Shinn in Destiny is Kira(Nu-Freedom) and Athrun(Nu-Justice) (did the original names cuz there's still some debate on what they're called)

[Dark Penguin]

yeah, i was pretty much just ranting just to get it off my chest *whew* . But still, the impulse takes 23 seconds too many to assemble, and it isn’t as cool as the Strike being sent out from the AA (in my opinion). And yeah you are right about Shinn being trained and Kira not having any “cannon fodder” to fight against, but still, don’t you think at least a few Windams would hit him? No one is that good; even Kira has had a few scares. In GSeed episode 5, mwu was able to hold his own against 4 gundams in a mobile armor (granted it was for a limited time, but still he did better than any of the Windams have). Maybe it just because i have always hated ZAFT with a passion, and now with them trying to be focused as the goog guys, i can't accept and have a passionate hate for Shinn and the Minerva (except Luna XD). Yeah, i was pretty much ranting, but thats why i liked seed a lot better than destiny.

[digi-kun]

now, if someone memorized all those epi previews, they'd sound hella smart with those crazy proverbs(not the "Next on Gudam SEED (DESTINY)" part though XD) XD oh and a bunch of the stuff Raww says in epi 29, great for proverbs...you'll sound really smart if you memorized those XD

Example:
"'It wasn't suposed to be like this...' Is it for your wishes to be granted to turn back time? Then can you say for sure that you won't make a mistake next time? Just who decided it, and what was decided?" -Raww

[Kratos]

Do you like Card Captors?

[digi-kun]

1. Totally off topic
2. I could go on and on ranting about Cardcaptor Sakura vs. Cardcaptors XD

More SEED Philosophy XD
"Memories...That is what make up what you are now. The pathmakers given to you from the flow of time. Inside that, which no one could escape; some have their heart bound while others are swept away. What is it that the feelings that scream across gunfire really wish for?" - Preview for episode 46 of SEED

[Dark Penguin]

wow - did you really memorize those or are you cheating?

[digi-kun]

of course i didn't memorize em, im watching epi 29 a lot XD

here's one
"A path you did not choose may has well have never existed. If only back then...If only back then...We cannot look back, no matter how much we look back. We cannot change anything." - Raww, GSD Episode 29

[Ryoutarou]

New picture of a new Gaia pilot. She was supposed to pilot Chaos but she was hurt or something about a month before the start of Destiny, and the pilots of Abyss and Chaos are dead. She's from Gundam SEED Astray Destiny, in a recent Newtype Japan there was something on her coming back soon enough.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/Hyperdash/riikashedar8cg.jpg

[Neo Genesis]

When the heck is this coming to america? I heared they alreadly have a licence to show it here and astray is the best!

[Kenny_C.002]

It's oing to take at least a year or so before it'll come out here. I would not be surprised if it doesn't come out until 2 or even 3 years after the end of the series in Japan.

[Ryoutarou]

It's already slated to air this year, about a month before the end of Destiny in Japan.

[digi-kun]

of course, as usual, i worry about the dubbing (druggies better not have crapped up voices XD)(same goes for Shinn)

[Neo Genesis]

is it gonna be on cartoon network?

[Ryoutarou]

Probably, no one really knows yet. But most likely it'll go to the one am spot.

[digi-kun]

obviously to take the place of GSEED

[Dark Penguin]

yeah, but i hope they will move it to a more convienent time slot. 1:00 wasn't bad, but made me REALLY tired, especially when i had something going on and couldn't sleep in on Saturday.

[Ryoutarou]

Well, it did help for less edits, and Gundam SEED was getting killed in ratings, so there was nothing CN could do really.

[Miyu-chan]

Hey everyone, even though I know nothing about Gundam SEED... My cousin wants to know where you can download the Gundam SEED movie: The Empty Battlefield.

Please err... PM me if you know. n_n;;;

[Dark Penguin]

wow, looks like you got affected by the severe lag time too. I never new there was a gundam seed movie, though that may be another gundam series movie. if so, you shoudl just yahoo it and see what is comes up with, to see if it is old and if it even has any active downloads. thats what i would do. but i don't think its gundam seed, i think its another series.

[Ryoutarou]

There isn't a movie though O.o

[Lucid-Acid]

That sounds more like one of the games coming out. o.o

[Miyu-chan]

Grrrr... *goes to delate her triple posts* ;-;

Hmmm... that was what my cousin told me. O.O; *goes googling it*

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0009E32LG/002-2571177-9156049?v=glance

looks like it isn't out in the US yet. o.o;

[Ryoutarou]

Oh, that's more of a 'series in a movie thing' there are four of them in Gundam SEED and they cover the series in four movies.

[Miyu-chan]

Oooh, I see... so they're the same as the series, but packed in one whole disk? o.o;

[Ryoutarou]

Oooh, I see... so they're the same as the series, but packed in one whole disk? o.o;
Yeah, it's like the first 15 episodes cut into two hours.

[Miyu-chan]

Thanks for clearing that up. n___n

*feels stupid*

Now ya'll just get back to what you were talking about. n_n;;;

[digi-kun]

Possible spoilers

I'm thinking those spoiler epis are kinda distorted now since Freedom didn't self-destuct to blow up Destroy

but dang, destroy is freakin awesome! 3 SEED druggie MS combo
Forbidden - The huge *** backpack and the reflector shields
Raider - Mouth Cannon
Calamity - Scylla x3, cannons on back = the cannons on the backpack and fingers
Also has the new shields from the latest mobile armors, and those cannon thingys on prividence


that being said, Rey's gundam Legend looks awesome, Providence mk. 2 and better looking at that XD




Here's a new set of epi spoilers from SEED Genesis









PHASE 32 ・Stellar
The Destroy continues to destroy cities, sitting in the cockpit is a frightened Stellar dominated by her fear of death. Shinn challenges the Destroy not-knowing that the pilot is Stellar.

The Destroy Gundam already destroyed many cities and nothing can resist to his destructive power. The Archangel decides to stop this slaughter and challenges him, the Minerva who received orders to fight him also appears. Shinn who realizes the pilot is Stellar call for her in desperation but her is out of control and his appeals don稚 reach her, but at that moment Kira..! (she dies)

PHASE 33 - Revelation for the World
Unable to protect Stellar, Shinn's hatred towards Freedom grows. On the other hand, ArchAngel picks up Neo who crashes in the last battle. Meanwhile Dullindal announces to the world about the Earth Alliance's indiscrinination attacks and makes a certain statement.

PHASE 34 - Nightmare
With his splendid and heartmoving speech, Durandall has completely seized control of Plant. Afterward, he gives out an order for Minerva to go after the ArchAngel. Athrun is now having second thought, but ArchAngel was already pursuited by another ZAFT force. Upon Minerva's arrival to the battlefield, Talia demands the ArchAngel to surrender in order to avoid combatting.

PHASE 34
The whole world is shocked by Dullindal's statement that the cause of the war is LOGOS. In this chaotic situation, ArchAngel decides to return to Orb but they are chased by ZAFT ground forces. Then, Minerva is ordered to subjugate ArchAngel...

Phase 35 - Before the Chaos
Shinn finally defeated his hated arch-rival. Unable to conceal his astonishment, Athrun confronted Shinn (more like grabbing him by the neck). However, he was unable to reply to Rey's argument, that "Shinn was only following his orders". With comlex emotions, Minerva arrives at Gibraltar. Both Shinn and Athrun was summoned by Durandall, who also came down to Earth. The thing that was shown to the two was...(digi's note: seriously now, just guess what they're gonna see XD)

PHASE 35
Losing Freedom, damaged ArchAngel heads towards Orb by sea. Meanwhile Dullindal and Meer descends on the confused Earth. Minerva enters Gilbratar and receives Destiny and Legend.

PHASE 36 - Flight of Athrun
Jibril was blamed for being responsible by Logos. In an attempt to rally, the main base of EA was moved to "Heaven's Base" in Iceland. On the other hand, ZAFT continued its preparation for the invasion of Heaven's Base. This is when Athrun finally understands Durandall's true intentions. While attempting to escape, he is sought out by people aftering him. In the end, it was an unexpected person that saved the cornered Athrun.