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igtica
January 10th, 2004, 12:13 PM
Has anyone ever noticeed the strange and unique ways that some pokemon move. Spheal for instances rolls around (which my bro thinks is hilarious and uses it to describe our cat :S). Jigglypuff floats, tumbles and rolls, whilst wurmple's legs rotate. Also some pokemon like Azurill (and evolutions) have things to help maintain travelling (i.e. in water for Azurill their talils are floats). Though many pokemon...just roll. Like Spheal, Voltorb, Electrode, Igglybuff, Jigglypuff. and pokemon like Gollum and Graveller roll to attack. One thing that really puzzles me is how on earth a pokemon as heavy as Geodude floats?....:S It's defing gravity! lol no complaints, just compelling mystery :p

Frostweaver
January 10th, 2004, 04:27 PM
Geodude floating was always a mystery... along with gigantic Dragonite in Bill's lighthouse episode. Also the appearance of Mewtwo on Bill's lighthouse door is a complete mystery... like Mewtwo is not even created back then? Even if it is, no one except Giovanni pretty much is suppose to see a face of Mewtwo yet survived/still maintained their memory... Pokemon is always full of weird and strange stuff.

Arcanine
January 10th, 2004, 05:10 PM
Yea I dont get how Geodude floats but I mean how is it going to walk? On its hands? But if it was like that then how would it battle. XD
Well about the Mewtwo thing. Its like the movies is not in step with episodes, like if Ash saw a Pokemon on the movie he forgets it in the episodes. Im thinking this is the same way with Mewtwo (I never saw the episode with Bill), Mew is 151 and Dragonite is 149 looks like Mew would be Mew would be 150 and Mewtwo 151 since Mewtwo is a clone. Any way im getting off topic here. XD

DragonTrainer
January 10th, 2004, 06:26 PM
Lol, about the geodude floating, I always thought it had to do with the earths magentism.I mean, he could have something in his body that is strong enough to repel the earth's core, thereby allowing it to float.Perhaps, he has some type of magnetism in it?

PichuSecretBase
January 11th, 2004, 04:57 AM
How does gyrados fly? That kinda wierd o.o XD

jynx
January 11th, 2004, 11:58 AM
Why geodude floats, why magnemite floats...
I want to know too!
Gengar, Mewtwo, Jynx, Latios, Latias accasionally floats...but that's because they are psychic.
But...how do the others float?

Porygon
January 13th, 2004, 09:50 AM
Magnemite floats because it is born with the ability to repel gravity [it is a magnet, after all] but Geodud, I have no clue.

jynx
January 14th, 2004, 01:45 AM
So do Koffing and Weezing...
Maybe the gas inside them are lighter than air?

igtica
January 14th, 2004, 01:47 PM
So do Koffing and Weezing...
Maybe the gas inside them are lighter than air?
Well if you check out one of the pokedexs (can't rememer which one) it says that what you said is exactly how they float. Also look at their pokedex entries. Koffing weighs barely anything for it's size (I think around 2 lbs)... though Weezing is about 21 lbs so I guess a lot of gas :p)

Kairyu
January 14th, 2004, 02:19 PM
Well if you check out one of the pokedexs (can't rememer which one) it says that what you said is exactly how they float. Also look at their pokedex entries. Koffing weighs barely anything for it's size (I think around 2 lbs)... though Weezing is about 21 lbs so I guess a lot of gas :p)

I think it was in the Pokemon Silver game entry and it states: "The poisonous gases it contains are a little bit lighter than air, keeping it slightly airborne."

I think that's the most you'll get as an official explaintion:P.

Frostweaver
January 14th, 2004, 02:56 PM
ahem... the idea of 21lb of "gas lighter than air" bugs me a bit still...

Thank goodness Magnemite/ton didn't inherit "levitate" ability regardless to the fact that they do float ^_^

Kairi
January 14th, 2004, 03:12 PM
ahem... the idea of 21lb of "gas lighter than air" bugs me a bit still...

Thank goodness Magnemite/ton didn't inherit "levitate" ability regardless to the fact that they do float ^_^Unfortunately, Gengar did. That thing is very evil now. ._.

Frostweaver
January 14th, 2004, 03:14 PM
true... Gengar has only ghost as its physical weakness, with psychic/dark as its other weakness... Absol or Zangoose will have to be your best friend now...

but the RBY ghost family are all gas as well... makes sense that they are capable of floating (unlike some other heavy gas ball ._.)

Kairi
January 14th, 2004, 03:17 PM
Lol, and Stadium makes it seem even more unrealistic. =/
Just as how all water Pokmon float in air, but I'm sure you guys touched on that.

Kairyu
January 14th, 2004, 05:05 PM
Lol, and Stadium makes it seem even more unrealistic. =/
Just as how all water Pokmon float in air, but I'm sure you guys touched on that.
I agree, how does Wailord even fight? I guess I can understand it rolling over their opponents as an attack but why does it float in the air?
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*Slaps himself*
Nevermind, I just found out Wailord's species is called "Floating Whale Pokemon"...rofl! But I still don't understand why they have the ability to float, unless they have untapped psychic abilities.

Frostweaver
January 14th, 2004, 05:12 PM
I always thought that Wailord is in the shape of a blimp ^_^;

Mantine is flying but if you look at the pokedex, it's flying only because it swims so fast that it glides far on surface, AS IF flying. So really... it can't fly... (plus what the heck... it's speed isn't that good is it? If Mantine is classified to fly like that, I'm sure Jolteon is pretty much walking above the ground or something?)

Strider
January 14th, 2004, 10:56 PM
How about some small water pokemon that could surf? (Horsea)
How Does Aerodactyl fly, when it is a rock?

Frostweaver
January 14th, 2004, 11:35 PM
Surfing may involve with checking with the original attack name of "surf" in japanese first, to see if it really means surf or just some form of wave attack or something. That may matter a lot.

As for Aerodactyl, well in the ancient times flying creatures are obviously not made of rock but they do weigh somewhere near Aerodactyl. They are completely capable of flying but however, their wings were much larger in order to fly... but I won't go into detail about the porportions of the wing and etc... like technically no Pokemon can use gust regardless of wings or not. If you want to whip out a tornado with several flap of feathers, how strong of muscles do you need is completely beyond calculations.

Kairyu
January 15th, 2004, 12:08 AM
The only reason I can think of Aerodactyls being a rock type is becuase it came from.. a rock/fossil. Not exactly a realistic answer, but Aerodactyls seem and look tough as a rock.

Purin
January 15th, 2004, 12:35 AM
To Atsuji's question on how gyarados might be able to fly, I noticed that Gyarados is a kind of dragon/serpent, which might explain why he was a flying type (although it cannot use the HM move fly).
About Wailord...hmm...I dunno? *everyone falls down*

jynx
January 15th, 2004, 05:21 AM
I agree, how does Wailord even fight? I guess I can understand it rolling over their opponents as an attack but why does it float in the air?
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*Slaps himself*
Nevermind, I just found out Wailord's species is called "Floating Whale Pokemon"...rofl! But I still don't understand why they have the ability to float, unless they have untapped psychic abilities.
ha ha! Agree!
That's why my friend likes to use Kingdra and Goldeen.
So we have laughs during the whole battle!

igtica
January 15th, 2004, 05:59 AM
Hmmm aerodactyl the flying rock :p it doesn't look as rocky as onix and geodude though. I never getr pokemon that are a type that would mean they would normally be weak against themselves. Like Chinchou and omanyte. Rock weak against water and water weak against electric :S

Porygon
January 15th, 2004, 09:23 AM
Being an "Elemental Oxymoron" means nothing bad, usually. Often the other element cancelles out the disadvantage.

jynx
January 15th, 2004, 10:39 AM
Not for me!
Ice+Psychic really is weak!

Frostweaver
January 15th, 2004, 11:52 PM
you haven't seen grass psychic then... even more worst.

Since the strange RBY bug of "sometimes effective sometimes not" bug is fixed, there is no longer any contradicting types.

HAJIME
January 16th, 2004, 12:07 AM
odd disgucussion.. o.O

Well anyway, how does a legendary bird keep itself int he air without flapping hmm? In the second pokemon movie at one point lugia is hovering, yet only flapping once ever few seconds... Lets just put it down to them being magical maybe. But geodude? I never liked this pokemon. I would be better if i walked on its hands me thinks.
But then think about this, if pokemon where reel, most of them wouldnt be able to move at all. Even charizard couldnt walk of fly. Its legs are to wide apart and too stubby for it to walk, and its wings are in a positioning and a shape making it impossible to fly. *shrugs*..they are only made up monsters and so these things are allowed. :P

igtica
January 16th, 2004, 02:05 AM
I realise the whole cancelling out thing, it just seems kinda illogical. I guess the pokemon just have a natural immunity to themselves :S

Hajime, I don't know if you've ever noticed, but birds like eagles hover when looking for prey, and they don't flap their wings. They do this but finding a certian air current, and their wings act to control where they are with slight movements. I hope this is the same with Lugia etc, it's how paraglides work too with out any method of propelling. I don't think charizards legs are too short. Remember crocodiles legs are short, maybe they use that mechanism of movement.

jynx
January 16th, 2004, 08:20 AM
There's a bird called Kingfisher that can hover in the air without going forwards and backwards or flapping its wings.
So for Lugia's place, I'm not surprised.

Frostweaver
January 16th, 2004, 03:00 PM
first of all, if that Pokemon can learn psychic, then perhaps it can bend logic a bit by using the excuse "psychic powers make it possible". Lugia may possibly use psychic to hold itself up in the air for example...

Eagles do ride air currents to "fly" without flapping their wings but they can never stay in the air IN THE SAME SPOT without flapping their wings, which is what Lugia is doing in that case.

igtica
January 16th, 2004, 03:54 PM
first of all, if that Pokemon can learn psychic, then perhaps it can bend logic a bit by using the excuse "psychic powers make it possible". Lugia may possibly use psychic to hold itself up in the air for example...

Eagles do ride air currents to "fly" without flapping their wings but they can never stay in the air IN THE SAME SPOT without flapping their wings, which is what Lugia is doing in that case.
true psychic, but some bird can stay in the same spot without flapping there wings constantly, which was my point. Of course the occasionally flap to balance and keep in the air, but Lugia does do this if I recall correctly. Reason why I related it to that of a bird of prey, though kestrels do this more evidently as they are smaller. It's like they are hanging in the air, it's really weird.