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Shinin
May 14th, 2005, 01:08 AM
http://www.nintendo.com/newsarticle?articleid=9594f668-5342-4b38-8eb1-d6bf479c4139&page=home
New info on it. It sounds awesome.
Zero ex
May 14th, 2005, 02:27 AM
WOW! it seems that Revoulution will be extremly good. Maybe this can be the best console.
chrno
May 14th, 2005, 03:39 AM
yeah!, revolution will be the best console
DeltaSuicune
May 14th, 2005, 03:45 AM
Not to seem to critical of the article.. but you people DO realize that this page is posted on Nintendo's own website, not a 3rd party reviewer's site right? Hence implying that all this is (partially at the least) media oriented hype, not a reviewer's honest surprise at the console's power via first impressions.
In retrospect parallel, Nintendo said something very similar when launching the N64 right after the Playstation came out, boasting how it could render Toy Story in realtime while running. Complete BS.
~DS
Arcanine
May 14th, 2005, 05:15 AM
Well at least Nintendo did say a little about the Revolution.
In its final form, Revolution will be about the thickness of three standard DVD cases and only slightly longer.
Here we go again. The super small system and everyone thinks "Well it's so small it can't do anything". Maybe they still will be able to get a lot of good stuff into that little box.
The versatile Revolution will play either horizontally or vertically, allowing the user total flexibility in setting up a gaming session wherever they have a television.
I like this. I don't have all that much room for another game system so I will be able to stand it up (I think both the Revolution and XBox 360 took a page out of the PS2 book and made their systems be able to stand up like the PS2).
Thanks to Nintendo's hardware development partners IBM and ATI, the small system will be packed with power that will enable it to wow players with its graphics. So they are working with ATI like the next XBox. I hope they will stick with their word and wow people when they see the graphics.
Nintendo's legions of loyal fans will be happy to learn that Revolution will be backward compatible, playing both Nintendo GameCube 8cm disks along with its own 12cm optical disks in the same self-loading media drive. I'm glad I can pack away my GC when I get the Revolution so I can save space.
And I see they are going with a standard size CD as well.
In the next generation, the addition of the Internet will be important to all consoles and particularly important to Nintendo. Revolution will be wireless Internet ready out of the box. Now I'm happy I want wireless internet. And I'm glad that it's ready to go when I pull it out (no need to buy this or that to add on to it).
I hope they live up to what they said. I hope Nintendo makes a great system that will be as good or better as the PS3 and the XBox 360.
pokejungle
May 14th, 2005, 03:46 PM
I'd have to agree with everything Arcanine said =D
I think people are really underestimating Nintendo's bid in teh Next Generation. Nintendo, believe it or not, HAS been in the console business for a long time, and they have a good feel for the market. After the N64 and GCN, they've learned a lot!
DS- I'd guess it does have pretty good graphics. =P
rikanai.
May 14th, 2005, 05:14 PM
They didnt say a word about the Controller... Fear...
WHOAMOG HOLOGRAMS GRAPHICS AND VOICE-BASED CONTROLLERS! xD
Nice. Now, I want it, and I want to sell my GameCube... xD
Wireless Internet is nice too. Has anyone thought about a connection with NDS?
Dark Penguin
May 14th, 2005, 05:16 PM
Plus, i read that for an example of its innovation, the controller will be pressure sensitive (ign.com), but it didn't say anything else. Sounds really, cool, though (a lot cooler than having a video game consul that can double-up as a computer).
rikanai.
May 14th, 2005, 05:23 PM
Plus, i read that for an example of its innovation, the controller will be pressure sensitive (ign.com), but it didn't say anything else. Sounds really, cool, though (a lot cooler than having a video game consul that can double-up as a computer).
Pressure Sensitive?
OMFGWTFBBQ I'LL SIT ON T3H CONTROLLER TO ATTACK!1!11!!111
Arcanine
May 14th, 2005, 05:48 PM
I hope it isn't pressure sensitive. I'll have to buy a new one with every game I get (I tend to take my controller and hit the bed with it). XD
Casty: I don't think there is a game out for the DS that is wireless (That you can play online).
rikanai.
May 14th, 2005, 05:55 PM
Casty: I don't think there is a game out for the DS that is wireless (That you can play online).
Yes there is... Well, not yet, but they're being developed~
And DS's Internet is Wireless, ya just need to be in a HotSpot.
I was talking about Revolution-DS Conenction via Wireless, like GCN-GBA, but without cables~
pokejungle
May 14th, 2005, 05:56 PM
Andy has a bad temper xD
Animal Crossing To Go, Ultimate Brain Games, and Ultimate Card Games are the only announced online titles so far.
Arcanine
May 14th, 2005, 06:03 PM
Yes there is... Well, not yet, but they're being developed~
And DS's Internet is Wireless, ya just need to be in a HotSpot.
I was talking about Revolution-DS Conenction via Wireless, like GCN-GBA, but without cables~
A hotspot or have wireless internet at your hosue.
I was reading somewhere (might have been a post on PC) that the Revolution and the GameBoy Evolution will be able to connect wirelessly. But I'm not that sure about the Revolution and the DS.
pokejungle
May 14th, 2005, 06:10 PM
I heard that the Revolution won't connect with the DS. That was a LONG time ago, so there's probably not much truth to that.
Dark Penguin
May 14th, 2005, 07:01 PM
I saw a pic on ign.com where it showed a diagram of nintendo's wireless connections, and it was a pic but showed something like this:
Nintendo DS -> Revolution -> The N (internet)
Of course it was more artsy but showed that the revolution will connect to the DS, and it looked offiical. Of couse i don't know if it is or not. Also, i read somewhere that the revolution will let you get online through your DS, and then play DS games on the Revolution (kind of like i-net, wireless gameboy player?)
pokejungle
May 14th, 2005, 07:06 PM
Ummm.....here:
Nintendo president Satoru Iwata has revealed the company's plans for the Nintendo DS's wireless capability, saying that the handheld system will connect to the Revolution console via Wi-Fi.
In an interview with Japanese gaming website Game Watch, Iwata said the service will be free with over 1000 new Wi-Fi hot spots being set up in Japan. No additional peripherals will be needed to connect, and the service will require no user registration. Although some simple network setup will be required when connecting wireless at home, Wi-Fi connections at the public hot spots will require no such tinkering.
The service will be free, but Nintendo has not ruled out the possibility of third-party publishers offering fee-based services--potentially paving the way for handheld MMOs.
Cross-platform connectivity is nothing new for Nintendo; games such as Harvest Moon allowed GBA users to connect to the GameCube to explore different content.
An official launch date has not been revealed, but Nintendo will likely go into more depth at E3, held next week in Los Angeles.
Got this from http://www.gamepro.com/nintendo/gamecube/games/news/45166.shtml
Bay-kun
May 14th, 2005, 07:17 PM
^Well, it makes sense to me, seeing as how the DS is their current handheld console. Also, I heard somewhere that the Gameboy Evolution will be targeted toward younger audiences, and if the Revolution isn't, (Which I have no idea) connectivity between the two and not the DS wouldn't make much sense. =/
Also, I found this part a bit worrying. "the service will be free with over 1000 new Wi-Fi hot spots being set up in Japan." It doesn't mention anything about creating hotspots in the U.S, Europe, etc. at all. O.o
pokejungle
May 14th, 2005, 07:21 PM
US has hotspots in most libraries already, not to mention coffee shops, stores, parks, etc. No worries ^^
Rumour:
Here's the real 4 processor rumour. I accidently switched the numbers on teh speed. Oops.
MoSys, a large computer memory company, were the makers behind the Gamecube’s 1T-SRAM memory. According to CEO Mark Voll, this will be repeated in the Revolution. "We are excited to be a participating member of the Nintendo team once again as Nintendo will roll out its successor game console to the Gamecube in mid-2006." This final comment is important as it gives a hint as to when Nintendo is currently looking to release the Revolution.
Along with this, some very beautiful rumored specs graced us. Four, that’s right, four 2.5GHz G5-class IBM PowerPC processors. Each processor has 128KB of L1 cache, and 512KB of L2 cache. ATI comes into the picture with a dual-core RN520 chip, containing 16MB of in-package frame buffer DRAM. For those of you who don’t understand tech-talk, that’s very, very, impressive.
Bay-kun
May 14th, 2005, 07:25 PM
US has hotspots in most libraries already, not to mention coffee shops, stores, parks, etc. No worries ^^
Good point. I wasn't thinking about that. XD
Also, since I don't understand tech talk, I'll talk your word for it that those specs are really impressive. ^^
rikanai.
May 14th, 2005, 07:27 PM
Also, I found this part a bit worrying. "the service will be free with over 1000 new Wi-Fi hot spots being set up in Japan." It doesn't mention anything about creating hotspots in the U.S, Europe, etc. at all. O.o
Bay-kun have just being OWNED!
http://www.hotspot-locations.com
pokejungle
May 14th, 2005, 07:28 PM
More Rumours!! YAY:
Major Points:
* Gyroscopic Control: Yes.
* Touchscreen Integration: Definitly No.
* Wireless Controllers: Yes.
* Stereoscopic 3D: No.
* Pressure Sensitive Controller: Yes
* Specs and details WERE given out at GDC, to specific developers. Among them are EA and Midway.
* Capcom and Namco are reportably tinkering with Revolution development kits.
* Square has a game in the works that will be demo'ed at E3.
* "There are a lot of graphics [fanboys] out there who feel the Revolution will be a weak system. They will be very suprised come E3."
* "Both Nintendo and Sony will be showing off Halo killers" at E3 this year.
* "I'm not going to share specs with you because they arent really that important."
* "[The Revolution] will be more powerful than the Xbox 360. Much more powerful. Many gamers seem to think it will be as powerful as the GBA or something. That isn't the case at all. From what I saw during my time their...it will be very capable."
* "All the rumors out there are not mere rumors..."
* "The Nintendo Revolution will also include voice control more advanced than anything seen so far...Imagine being able to merely call for an airstrike or reload your gun by giving out commands orally."
* "...the Revolution will have some impressive 3rd party support around launch. EA, Capcom, Namco, Konami, Majesto, Square..."
* "I would go as far to say that the Revolution isnt as revolutionary as Nintendo is saying. t should be called the Nintendo Simplicity, because every aspect I mentioned greatly simplifies the gaming experience."
* "I just dont want to give away [the Revolutionary aspect]...Nintendo has a great idea for introducing it to the world. Its going to be very cool, and I'd hate to spoil that. It will be the ultamate prank."
About the Revolution Online
"As Nintendo has stated before, the system will be online. In my eyes, the online system they have set up is the most revolutionary part of the system. While Sony and Microsoft are busy turning their systems into trojan horses for their other electronic devices, Nintendo is going to use the Revolution for direct communication with gamers. The only way I can describe it is as an internet service. Imagine turning it on and checking your mail on the system. You see previews and demos of DS and Revolution games that you can download. A magazine similar to Nintendo Power will be exclusive to the system, and you will be able to access it on the Revolutions homepage. As you check you mail, you will also see various invitations from gamers on your buddy list who want to play you. There are so many other ways this is going to be used. Once the Revolution comes out, there will be no reason to hang out on message boards. Message boards as well as chat rooms will be available on the Revolution so that gamers can discuss and challenge each other all day. And the best thing is that the entire thing is totally free and easy to use. Why play Madden on Xbox Live when youll be able to play it for free on the Revolution with much better services?"
I'm getting these off of nwizard.com BTW.
Bay-kun
May 14th, 2005, 07:33 PM
Yeah, yeah, I'm always getting owned. XD
^Well, I've heard all those rumors before, but its still cool hearing them again. ^^
pokejungle
May 14th, 2005, 07:36 PM
They are oldies but goodies.
I just posted them for the benefit of people who wouldn't know xD
Arcanine
May 14th, 2005, 08:22 PM
Bay-kun have just being OWNED!
http://www.hotspot-locations.comThat doesn't list all the hotspots. Because I know of 1 or 2 around here and it isn't on the list.
I hope them rumors are ture. It would be great if all of them were.
pokejungle
May 14th, 2005, 08:52 PM
That site is a good place to check though. There's so many hotspots it'd be near impossible to list them all.
§ Bleep §
May 14th, 2005, 09:22 PM
This stuff looks cool... its awesome that its gonna be really small!
Casual Billy
May 14th, 2005, 10:07 PM
This whole thread has gotten me very excited about the Revolution. FOUR 2.5GHZ PROCESSORS?! Man! It's lookin' like it'll be a powerful little machine. If the internet stuff is true too, Nintendo can definitely give the other two a big run for their money and possibly get back on top. I can't wait until E3!!!
Allstories
May 14th, 2005, 10:12 PM
This is good news, but Nintendo isn't out of the woods yet. I have a feeling Microsoft won't stop until they own the world.
Dark Penguin
May 15th, 2005, 01:23 AM
This is good news, but Nintendo isn't out of the woods yet. I have a feeling Microsoft won't stop until they own the world.
What do you mean, out of the woods? Nintendo may not be #1 anymore, but they sure aren't "in the woods." millions of gamecubes were sold in america alone, and i'm sure the Revolution will be as successful, if not better.
pokejungle
May 15th, 2005, 01:33 AM
I'd have to agree with Allstories. Nintendo isn't in trouble, but they're definetly trying to find a more publicly accepted console.
Dark Penguin
May 15th, 2005, 01:38 AM
yeah, but does that really qualfy as putting them "in the woods"? i think that would be more like the NGageQD or sumtin. Yeah, they do need a more publically accepted console, but that doesn't mean their not even a major competitor (maybe thats not what he meant, maybe its just what i took it as).
pokejungle
May 15th, 2005, 01:49 AM
Hmmm... I guess I'm confuzzled now. I'm not sure ><;;
Flaming Torchic
May 15th, 2005, 04:14 AM
I think that Nintendo is slowly starting to realize what they need to do to be even more successful next-gen. They are starting to give the gamers what they want, but are also trying to offer something completely new that makes them stand out from the other consoles. But, just because they have all the tools to make a great product, doesn't mean that they will. They need to keep listening to the gamers, and continue to start taking their suggestions and advice into serious consideration (which they have with the survey on online), because if they don't, they will not take first place.
Also, Microsoft and Sony are great competitiors, so they mustn't underestimate them. There's a chance that their idea of innovation could just be too alienating and backfire, but I believe that Nintendo has the skill to ensure that won't happen.
Dark Penguin
May 15th, 2005, 03:27 PM
i agree with that, but also Nintendo is not like Sony or Microsoft, who rely on third party games to have a wide variety and attract many types of gamers - Nintendo relies mostly on their fans, who appreciate their innovative style and are "hardcore" video gamers. Now Nintendo does have other games to attract other gamers, but if they relied more on making a publically accepted console, would they really be the Nintendo that we know? The same Nintendo who made the most sold video game ever (Ocarina of Time - it in that Guiness Book of World Records thingy). So yes, it would be great for Nintendo to have a publically accepted console, but by going away from the innovativeness that has gave them many loyal fans, there may be many people disappointed.
Flaming Torchic
May 15th, 2005, 03:35 PM
I don't see how people could be disappointed by Nintendo getting better third party support and more games. Honestly, I would like a little more variety on my Gamecube. I'm not saying that they have to make Mario mainstream, but it would be interesting to see them make even more of their franchises more darker (other than Zelda). Honestly, I think that the Metroid series has the potential to be an even darker game than it is today.
Also, I'm not saying that they shouldn't try new things, I'm just stating that if they want to be number one next-gen, they need to stop relying on just their hardcore fans.
Dark Penguin
May 15th, 2005, 04:11 PM
Yes, i do agree that more third party support would be better. But then again, couldn't that lead to the path that Sony and Microsoft have taken? Its a delicate balance, but i guess i few more couldn't hurt. But thats not what i was saying. I feel that they don't need third parties to make great games that make the system famous (like Halo), but like you said, i would rather see them expand on their own games like Metroid (which could definately be darker, thought the beginning of Echoes wasn't a bad start down the "darker" road). I'm not against third parties, but sometimes, when you are as innovative as Nintendo, you have to do it yourself to harness all of the creativity that it has been famous for.
Kenny_C.002
May 16th, 2005, 05:13 AM
Four 2.5GHz processors? O_O Dear lord how much would that cost? I mean, one 2.5GHz processor's running at a pretty large pricetag on it already...Even if the tool is there, the pricing would be too great for it to be easy on the wallet.
And for one thing, Nintendo's been thinking more about the Japanese population than the American population with the system size. If it's any indication, here you want the system to be huge. I still don't know why those ppl are still thinking the same "box size = power size" mentality here either, and definitely I'm looking forward to seeing a small system so I can carry it to college more readily. XD
And the whole Internet thing doesn't really appeal to me all that much. I just basically want to plug + play, and sometimes have a couple of lan games with my friends here and there, but that's about the whole extent of it all. It's a decent concept for many people, I'm sure, but it's not really for me. lol
As for 3rd party support, they should actually do what they've been doing and leave the dark stuff mostly to the 3rd parties, but just not slipping down to the sad Cel shading ever again (unless it's like ToS). I mean, RE4 rocks. ;)
Anyway, i'll keep looking to see if I really need to go ahead and resubscribe to Nintendo Power again. XD
Arcanine
May 16th, 2005, 05:54 AM
*Goes back to what Nick said*
Nintendo is really slow on giving what people wants. It's like everyone wanted a lighted screen for their GameBoy. When I got my GBC I thought a lighted screen would be great (I had one of them worm lights). I'm sure lots and lots of you were the same way. Down the road they came out with the SP. For some odd reason it takes them some time to get out what people wants.
I heard the Revolution might have a DVD player. They found out the hard way that they need more then just a system (I don't want a computer system, but if it has a DVD player and a CD player etc then I'll like it more). They need to think ahead of Sony and Microsoft, come up with something new, something ahead of the game. The GC was a step behind the X-Box and PS2. Most people looked down on the GC when it was next to the X-Box and the PS2. I think they might be doing it good with the Revolution. The stuff with the Revolution is state of the art and new to game systems (four 2.5GHz processors, wireless internet, wireless controllers, wireless headphones, etc). From what I've seen the Revolution isn't a kiddie game system. Maybe after the Revolution comes out and turns a few heads no one will look at Nintendo as "a game system for 10 year olds" like they did the Game Cube.
Dark Penguin
May 16th, 2005, 06:01 AM
yeah, Nintendo has been very innovative, but has restricted that innovativenness to games, and games only. I heard they were reluctant to release online DS, but had to. They need to see what gamers would want a game system for, and not just gamewise - they really need to look around the corner and set the stage for the new innovation which will elevate their console to #1.
Arcanine
May 16th, 2005, 06:08 AM
Like I said, Nintendo needs to think ahead. It would have been really stupid of them not to put the DS online. This isn't the N64 age where you get to play friends when you go to their house or they come to yours. This is the age of the internet. Given the chance I'm sure any PC member would love to play another PC member online. To get their system to get their system to number 1 they need to do stuff like the internet thing. Little things here and there might tweak interest in people (they got my attention when they said it was online play, and the wireless controllers) and if they add stuff people likes a lot then it will take off (the SP sold more systems then any other system, who wants to think that lighted screen had a little something to do with that?).
Archaic
May 17th, 2005, 10:47 AM
Full news Report on BulbaNews (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/The_Revolution_begins?PHPSESSID=d21d679bf89e71d0d2273219761c16ce)
Thanks go to IGN for the information and pictures.
New details regarding Nintendo's next-generation console, codenamed Revolution, have started to sprinkle onto the Internet. The machine, which will be revealed during Nintendo's pre-E3 2005 show on Tuesday morning in Los Angeles, will sport a slick, black design and a front blue light.
Revolution will be "two-to-three times more powerful than GameCube," according to Nintendo, which also acknowledges that the next-generation race isn't solely about new technologies. By contrast, Microsoft's Xbox 360 console is 13-15 times more powerful than the first, according to the publisher. And Sony says it's PlayStation 3 is roughly 35 times more powerful than PlayStation 2.
Nintendo also revealed that using Revolution's new Wi-Fi connection, gamers would be able to go online to a free gamer-matching service. Interestingly, in a move similar to Microsoft's Xbox Live Arcade service, Revolution users will be able to download classic and new Nintendo games over the Internet. Nintendo cited such examples as Donkey Kong and Super Mario Sunshine, which suggests that Revolutionaries could have access to games for all the publisher's previous consoles.
Shinin
May 17th, 2005, 10:56 AM
Bah, you beat me to it. >_>
Arcanine
May 17th, 2005, 02:38 PM
I merged the threads because there isn't a need to have two or three threads going around when it's about the same thing.
I hope the Revolution will get changed around in it's looks. Because I really really don't like the looks of it. It looks like a removable hard drive for God's sake.
The S
May 17th, 2005, 03:48 PM
I'm also disappointed with the Revolution's design... it turns out the PS3 is the only one that actually LOOKS like a game console!
Lucifer
May 17th, 2005, 06:26 PM
I think the Revolution looks great.
Poor E3 conference as far as the Rev's concerned. Learned absolutely nothing of it besides the fact that wireless Smash Brothers is in the works, as well as Mario, Zelda, Crystal Chronicles and Metroid. No controller was shown.
Raizor Blaid
May 17th, 2005, 08:48 PM
Yeah I know the revolution (I hope they make that the official name it sounds cool) will be awesome, with all these features it could easily become the best system over some time, and some new add-ons are created. god I've always stuck to nintendo no matter how much better the other systems were, at least nintendo is creative with lots of game mascots.
but what I'm sure everyone wants to know is: how much will it cost! I'm sure it will cost alot and I'v decided to start savin already but I would like a number that is at least rounded off into the hundreds... well just gonna have to wait till it comes out ^^
ok off to rub the greatness of the revolution in my friends face!
Arcanine
May 17th, 2005, 09:41 PM
I will be happy with the Revolution if they make it less "plain". It's not the size that bugs me it's the shape. I mean like I said before, it looks like a removable hard drive. If they add a little color (maybe like a white or grey stripe in the middle of it and say "Nintendo Revolution" on it then that would help) then it would be better.
TRIFORCE89
May 17th, 2005, 09:43 PM
I'm also disappointed with the Revolution's design... it turns out the PS3 is the only one that actually LOOKS like a game console!
I like how it looks vertically and from the front, horizontally and from the side...not so much. I hate how the 360 looks and the Revolution looks like a bare PS2.
Awful conference. What's with the Game Boy Micro? If you don't have a GBA by now, you probably don't want one. The Revolution would probably make an impression on us if they actually showed it in action! @@ I can't believe this.
Casual Billy
May 17th, 2005, 09:47 PM
At least Rev isn't purple. I think the design fits well with the new demographic that Nintendo is trying to reach out to. It does look kinda like an external hardrive (arcanine) though. Eh.
Koriaku
May 17th, 2005, 10:21 PM
http://www.nintendo.com/newsimagelarge?articleid=5aa8631e-d4a0-45d9-a88c-e5931b807091¤tNo=0&page=
Lord Jaws
May 17th, 2005, 10:24 PM
Although this is the wrong forum. Awesome! It looks slick and sounds even better. I cant wait.
Post 900!
Shinin
May 17th, 2005, 10:47 PM
I actually like the design of the Revolution. It looks cool.
TRIFORCE89
May 17th, 2005, 11:16 PM
I'm really dissapointed with how little of the Revolution was shown today. I'm hoping the rumours from that Aeris guy are true. "I just dont want to give away [the Revolutionary aspect]...Nintendo has a great idea for introducing it to the world. Its going to be very cool, and I'd hate to spoil that. It will be the ultamate prank." Would showing stuff later this week after everyone is upset today not be a prank? *prays*
Bay-kun
May 17th, 2005, 11:30 PM
I like how it looks vertically and from the front, horizontally and from the side...not so much. I hate how the 360 looks and the Revolution looks like a bare PS2.
Awful conference. What's with the Game Boy Micro? If you don't have a GBA by now, you probably don't want one. The Revolution would probably make an impression on us if they actually showed it in action! @@ I can't believe this.
I completely agree. And I thought the Revolution was a PS2 when I first looked at it. O.o I hope they make it look better by the time its released. And I think the GBM is a lame idea. As you said, if you own a GBA now, you don't want one. And hopefully they will show some actual Revolution games, etc. I mean gosh, they haven't even shown a controller yet!
TRIFORCE89
May 17th, 2005, 11:52 PM
The system will look different by the launch. Iwata said so, and you can look at the DS. It's appearance changed by it's launch. The controller, based on rumours is the revolutionary part, so keeping it mum doesn't surprise me. But, tech specs, video, screenshots, something! Anything! All we have to show is a black box while Sony and Microsoft have shown everything. @@
Arcanine
May 18th, 2005, 12:01 AM
Yea Nintendo is going to end up bit in the butt if they don't spit out something soon. All they let out is 3 pics and a little more info on what it will do.
Shinin
May 18th, 2005, 12:17 AM
OK, people: with the Revolution, you will be able to download NES, SNES & N64 games, possibly like the video game version of iTunes!
Brittany
May 18th, 2005, 12:39 AM
OK, people: with the Revolution, you will be able to download NES, SNES & N64 games, possibly like the video game version of iTunes!
First of all, I doubt that- Backwards compatibility is already hard enough from generation to generation. Developers don't simply take a PS1, add/change two or three components, stick it into a box then call it PS2 and hope it still works with previous games. Nor from PS2 to PS3.
But NES to N64, along with GameCube and the new Revolution games coming along? I forsee either false information, or really bad compatibility issues within the future. :\
Shinin
May 18th, 2005, 12:41 AM
The Revolution doesn't have console things for NES, SNES & N64 cartridges, you DOWNLOAD them. Onto the system, I think.
Brittany
May 18th, 2005, 12:52 AM
The Revolution doesn't have console things for NES, SNES & N64 cartridges, you DOWNLOAD them. Onto the system, I think.
That's not what I meant, I mean running an old game on a new system. I can download roms on my computer right now, and although my computer is many times more powerful than a NES or SNES, I can already tell you that it won't run exactly as smoothly as it was originally intended to be. And why is that? Not because my computer is teh suxxors- but because those games weren't originally intended to be run on a computer. Now if this Revolution is many times more powerful than a GCN, I doubt they would have the time, nor resources, or even desire to bring backwards compatibility that far.
TRIFORCE89
May 18th, 2005, 12:59 AM
The Revolution doesn't have console things for NES, SNES & N64 cartridges, you DOWNLOAD them. Onto the system, I think.
*nods* Not that it's a huge deal. I just watched the G4 coverage of it. They raised a good point. Is there not a hack for the Xbox that does this already?
And that got me thinking. Why did Nintendo drop online play? Because something like this happened, past game and GCN games were being emulated onto the GCN. Panic, and they drop online. So...how to fix this? Ah, well lets set it up so it's A) Backwards compatible with GCN B) They can download all those past games that they want, and better yet. They'll pay for them. It's an attempt at stopping piracy, while at the same time putting money in their pocket.
But yes. It does play all past Nintendo console games. It reads the GCN discs, but all the others must be downloaded...onto the hardrive I'd guess, or maybe the SD cards?
Brittany - The GCN had emulated NES game in Animal Crossing. Not to mention the whole Legend of Zelda: Collector's Edition. GCN Could do it, no? Revolution being more powerful, wouldn't be able to because...?
kohei
May 18th, 2005, 08:19 AM
Niceee :)
But it's black and uses discs... I think it's too much like a PS2...
Shinin
May 18th, 2005, 11:16 AM
More Revolution pics: http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/615/615030/imgs_1.html
More than 1 color.
Allstories
May 18th, 2005, 08:04 PM
Holy crap:
http://www.lockntoad.com/BB/Revolution-2.jpg
http://www.lockntoad.com/BB/RevolutionColors.jpg
Now that looks pretty cool. NOW I'm slightly more excited. Nintendo's claims about the Revolution's power seem far more realistic than Sony and Microsoft's (PS3 32 times faster than the PS2? Bahaha. Give me a break)
Oh, and HAHAHA, hilarious:
http://www.davejm.hosttoday.co.uk/images/ps3grill.jpg
Casual Billy
May 18th, 2005, 08:16 PM
Aww man. I thought rev was gonna be something. You all should go to gamespot.com and watch the feature on PS3. It IS THE MOST POWERFUL THING SINCE...MAN, IT'S POWERFUL. It's like a super computer! Man, that conference or whatever BLEW MY MIND. The whole time I was thinking "HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?" It's gonna be 35 times as powerful as PS2, 2 times as powerful as Xbox 360, and an infinite number of times more powerful than Revolution if the specs that we have now are true. It's gonna render graphics that look like you're watching a movie. The clip they showed of someone playing (means it's real-time) Unreal Tournament was AMAZING. Man, Rev is goin' down. Wireless for up to seven controllers too! OMG!!!
Allstories
May 18th, 2005, 08:31 PM
Oh, please. You don't actually believe the PS3 is going to be 35 times more powerful than the PS2, do you? I mean, c'mon. You can't immediately start ragging on the Revolution, especially since what it's really capable of is yet to be seen.
Raizor Blaid
May 18th, 2005, 08:46 PM
yeah, besides this is a revolution board, here we disscuss it, not beleive idiotic 35-times-faster rumours, I mean its possible but come on. I think the rev is gonne be awesome and did you even notice the PS3 price tag?! 436$!(approx.) hopefully nintendo tries to come out on top by making their systems cost less than the others like they did when they brought ou the GC. but there bringing out so much stuff for the '06 its hard to keep up.
Casual Billy
May 18th, 2005, 10:29 PM
Oh, please. You don't actually believe the PS3 is going to be 35 times more powerful than the PS2, do you? I mean, c'mon. You can't immediately start ragging on the Revolution, especially since what it's really capable of is yet to be seen.
If all the stuff that they say is gonna be in there is actually in there, it is very believable that PS3 is gonna be 35 times more powerful than PS2. You all should read up on it. It's gonna be able to render graphics like movie special effects in real-time at 60 frames per second. I couldn't believe it at first but then the guy showed all the hardware that's goin' into that machine...MAN! If all that stuff is in there at launch, it will blow Xbox 360 and Revolution away. I'm thinkin' it might be too little and too late for Nintendo.
idiotic 35-times-faster rumours
You might actually want to check it out before talking...
Allstories
May 18th, 2005, 10:33 PM
Sony originally boasted that the PS2 could render Toy Story in real time.
Shinin
May 18th, 2005, 10:54 PM
Sony lies. The PS3 has awesome graphics (PS2 cutscene graphics in real-time), but it sure as hell isn't 35 times more powerful than the PS2.
Casual Billy
May 18th, 2005, 11:08 PM
Sony lies. The PS3 has awesome graphics (PS2 cutscene graphics in real-time), but it sure as hell isn't 35 times more powerful than the PS2.
Actually if you watch the conference thingy at gamespot.com, the guy who helped Sony and IBM develop the cell proccessor shows all the PS3s technical specs. If what he showed about the hardware in that system is true, then it is 35 times more powerful than PS2.
Sony originally boasted that the PS2 could render Toy Story in real time.
It can.
Arcanine
May 18th, 2005, 11:25 PM
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=36638
Use that thread billy. Don't come in the Revolution thread talking about the PS3 and bashing the Revolution when you got a PS3 and XBox 360 thread on the same page.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Arcanine_88/Revolution4.jpg
Looks like the Revolution has the 4 controller ports for the GC games. It would be nice if the Revolution would have an even 8 controller ports (as well as the 4 ports for the GC making a total of 12).
I'm sure the PS3 and the XBox 360 has more power then the Revolution. But can the PS3 and the 360 say their system will be able to download games? The Revolution will be able to download NES, SNES and N64 games off the internet. The way Nintendo has been talking about online stuff I think the Revolution will be the system to get this time around for online play. The rumors that has been going around about some of the online play stuff would be really good (the buddy list, the wireless headphones, the internet, the Nintendo forum for the Revolution etc) and I don't think the PS3 and the XBox 360 can really stand up to it for online stuff.
Casual Billy
May 18th, 2005, 11:50 PM
Use that thread billy. Don't come in the Revolution thread talking about the PS3 and bashing the Revolution when you got a PS3 and XBox 360 thread on the same page.
Ah! Okay, sorry. I'm off!
Raizor Blaid
May 19th, 2005, 07:27 PM
I do also think that overall the 360 and PS3 will probably be better, but 35 times better? yeah downloading games will be awesome, The thing with the online play is that it comes in the box ready to go, on one point peole won;t have to but the online stuff, but about thise without a computer or just don't want to download games? basically what there saying is:
"Ok you pay extra for this, by the way you might not use it" that will be one of the things that the Rev has that could be good or bad, depends on you'r internet access.
mew_master
June 2nd, 2005, 10:33 PM
Niceee :)
But it's black and uses discs... I think it's too much like a PS2...
the gamecube is black and uses discs...
kohei
June 3rd, 2005, 04:58 AM
the gamecube is black and uses discs...
But look at the place where the disc goes in...
And when GC was released, the first, original colour was purple.
fudge01
June 3rd, 2005, 09:17 AM
i thaught they released the colours at the same time i am pretty sure. I think you think it looks like a ps2 cause it is standing up and where else would the disc go in? the back? the bottom?
Haruki Hanai
June 3rd, 2005, 09:56 AM
This is General games Discussion, but that's for POKéMON topics. This goes to Other games.
I'll move it now.
Sorairo
June 3rd, 2005, 01:47 PM
now I know those are real. The gameboy micro looked like it wasnt real, but it was. I watched E3 05' Live, and they DID go over the gameboy micro, AND the Revolution. All they didnt show was the controller for the Revolution, and some games for BOTH Revolution, and Micro.
Rated R Superstar™
June 3rd, 2005, 05:31 PM
A Box.That's suposed to bring in money?!...Even thought it IS backwards compatable....I'm falling in love with the black one and the white one...maybe a blue one....I wonder what the controller will look like..
TRIFORCE89
June 5th, 2005, 02:11 AM
http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/news/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=36071&subsectionid=1587
All of the Nintendo made games on previous systems (minus the GCN) can be downloaded for free! Hmm... I hope that included Nintendo published games too, not just the ones they developed. I'd like to download Banjo-Kazooie and GoldenEye.