View Full Version : Great moves for Sceptile in E4!
CipherDakim12
July 9th, 2005, 01:53 PM
I heard from many people that Sceptile was one of the hardest Pokemon to get good moves for. I experimented a little on this and I found out a good move set. I tried it out against the E4 in Emerald and defeated the whole thing alone with just the Sceptile at level 55.
Sceptile Nature: Sassy HP-163
Brick Break Attack-107
Crunch Defense-124
Dragon Claw Sp. Attack-149
Leaf Blade Sp. Defense-113
Speed-132
For Sidney: Took down all of them with Brick Break except I took down Sharpedo with Leaf blade.
For Phobe: Took down all with Crunch.
For the Ice Girl (forgot her name): Brick Break on the Glaies and Leaf Blade on Sealeos and Walrein.
For Drake: Took down all with Dragon Claw (Salemence was hard!!!)
For Champion Wallace:
Walord: 2 Leaf Blades
Tentaruel: 3-4 Crunchs
Whiscash: 1 Leaf Blade
Ludicolo: The hardest one! It took 7 Brick Breaks because it kept using the Leech Seed-Double Team-Damaging attack combo.
Milotic: 2 Leaf Blades
Gyrados: 2 Dragon Claws/1 Leaf Blade
ArKiVe
July 9th, 2005, 01:57 PM
Where can you get Crunch?
CipherDakim12
July 9th, 2005, 02:07 PM
Its an Egg move. Or at least it must be because when I got an Egg from the Day Care it hatch a Treecko and it knew Pound, Leer, Crunch! Ha ha!
P.S. I breed a Houndoom and a Sceptile for that.
ArKiVe
July 9th, 2005, 02:25 PM
Wow, odd couple. Thanks for the information btw. I guess I should breed Houndoom and Sceptile then...o.o
Squarewalker
July 9th, 2005, 03:03 PM
I'd never give Brick Break to Sceptile. It is just not a good mixed sweeper.
The nature lowers speed and why is Charcoal his hold item? 10% doesn't worth to give attack-increasing items to pokemon, especially not if it doesn't increases the attack power of any move from the holder's moveset.
Btw, the E4 isn't such difficult to beat anyway, so most pokemon with the right moves against their pokemon can beat them alone.
Squarewalker
July 9th, 2005, 03:35 PM
Charcoal? He isn't holdin Charcoal!
Well, before you edited your post, you said it was holding Charcoal:
Sceptile @ Charcoal Nature: Sassy HP-163
Golden Groudon
July 9th, 2005, 03:55 PM
Well, before you edited your post, you said it was holding Charcoal:
You could have screen-shot it. :P
Squarewalker
July 9th, 2005, 04:10 PM
You could have screen-shot it. :P
If I would have known that he'll edit his post, I might have taken a screenshot then. ;)
steel_skarmory
July 9th, 2005, 04:40 PM
Get sceptile HP:water, or EQ for fire types. Take out brick break for one of those.
CipherDakim12
July 9th, 2005, 04:42 PM
Your a beginning trainer!
Golden Groudon
July 9th, 2005, 06:11 PM
Your a beginning trainer!
One question: Do you go to smogon? =/
I sure you'll call all of the movesets in there "n00b sets". =\
Mullet
July 9th, 2005, 08:32 PM
He's only a "Beginning Trainer" because of the number of posts he has on PC.
Sceptile is easy to get a good moveset for:
Sceptile@Petaya Berry
EVs:252 Sp. attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Nature:Modest/Timid
Leaf Blade
Leech Seed
Substitute
HP [Ice]/Thunder Punch
That's a Sceptile!:D
Iveechan
July 10th, 2005, 07:16 PM
P.S. I breed a Houndoom and a Sceptile for that.
That can't be right, they're in totally different egg groups. It must have been from Seviper or Salamence...
CipherDakim12
July 13th, 2005, 12:44 AM
Thats how I did it anyway! I thought it was weird also!
:D
Ice demon
July 13th, 2005, 02:36 AM
Mullet's moveset is what u should be aiming for.
if u want go with an all out Sp.Sweeper..which in even tho its stopped dead in its tracks by bliss,lax and regi-Ice...should work just fine ingame.
lol a physical sceptile..
Sceptile[+Sp,-Def]@leftovers/petaya
EVs - Att,hp,Sp,SpAtt
focus punch
leaf blade
leech seed
substitute
it works...but its certainly not ever going to be standard.
CipherDakim12
July 13th, 2005, 01:54 PM
Who cares! I got rid of that Sceptile already! Sceptile itself stinks!
I much more prefer Swampert
Ice Beam
Curse
Earthquake
Surf
Golden Groudon
July 13th, 2005, 03:11 PM
Who cares! I got rid of that Sceptile already! Sceptile itself stinks!
I much more prefer Swampert
Ice Beam
Curse
Earthquake
Surf
Sceptile only stinks if you don't know how to use it. ;)
Swampert is ok but you can also use:
Curse
EQ
Ice beam/surf/RS
Rest
@Lefties/chesto (I suck at held items =\)
Funny since you're the thread starter. =\
CipherDakim12
July 13th, 2005, 03:14 PM
Its moves stink and its stats stink!
Anything more I need to say?
Golden Groudon
July 13th, 2005, 03:18 PM
Its moves stink and its stats stink!
Anything more I need to say?
Well, Sceptile isn't really a pokemon that goes in for the kill. It's mainly used a as a leech seeder.:bandit:
Stall away.....!
husk1442
July 13th, 2005, 07:36 PM
Cipher, you would want hydro pump over surf on your swampert
On the whole I don't like resting on a pokemon that can be taken out by one grass attack when fully set up. Getting (psuedo-) Hazed is also a problem
Golden Groudon
July 13th, 2005, 08:20 PM
On the whole I don't like resting on a pokemon that can be taken out by one grass attack when fully set up. Getting (psuedo-) Hazed is also a problem
That's why you can always use surf...
But if it's a grass, you switch. You'll going to have chesto if you use rest on your set. =/
Celebi & Ludicolo is going to own you anyways.
§ Bleep §
July 14th, 2005, 12:57 AM
He's only a "Beginning Trainer" because of the number of posts he has on PC.
Sceptile is easy to get a good moveset for:
Sceptile@Petaya Berry
EVs:252 Sp. attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Nature:Modest/Timid
Leaf Blade
Leech Seed
Substitute
HP [Ice]/Thunder Punch
That's a Sceptile!:D
lol or just anything with more all special DAMAGING moves... it beats that one over on that first post lol.
Espy Psyche
July 14th, 2005, 06:28 PM
He's only a "Beginning Trainer" because of the number of posts he has on PC.
:D
No, he is a beginning trainer because he hasn't changed it yet.
Note how mine says "Elite Commando"?
That's because I wanted it to say that.
Sceptile@Scope Lens
Leaf Blade
Crunch
T/Punch
HP Psy
HP Psy is a SC Psn.
Spec sweeper with an attack supereffective to:
R, Gd, Psn, Ft, W, Fly, Psy, Gh.
Two of them (Psn/Fly) are SCs.
Golden Groudon
July 14th, 2005, 06:49 PM
No, he is a beginning trainer because he hasn't changed it yet.
Note how mine says "Elite Commando"?
That's because I wanted it to say that.
Sceptile@Scope Lens
Leaf Blade
Crunch
T/Punch
HP Psy
HP Psy is a SC Psn.
Spec sweeper with an attack supereffective to:
R, Gd, Psn, Ft, W, Fly, Psy, Gh.
Two of them (Psn/Fly) are SCs.
Blissey and Snorlax ruins your fun. =(
Leaf Blade+Scope LEns is fun but it's still not really worth it.
If you really want a SPsweeping sceptile, go with
@lefties
LeafBlade
Focus Punch
HP Ice
Thunderpunch
Espy Psyche
July 14th, 2005, 06:54 PM
Blissey and Snorlax ruins your fun. =(
Leaf Blade+Scope LEns is fun but it's still not really worth it.
If you really want a SPsweeping sceptile, go with
@lefties
LeafBlade
Focus Punch
HP Ice
Thunderpunch
Focus Punch w/out Sub/Follow me/Spore = no hits
If you want a fight move use Brick Break, but I really don't think it is necessary.
CipherDakim12
July 14th, 2005, 07:02 PM
Blissey and Snorlax ruins your fun. =(
Leaf Blade+Scope LEns is fun but it's still not really worth it.
If you really want a SPsweeping sceptile, go with
@lefties
LeafBlade
Focus Punch
HP Ice
Thunderpunch
2 probs for Focus Punch
1. Its Attack truely is horrible.
2. Its useless without something like Sub, because if you get hit directly, you flinch!
Here's my new moveset:
Sceptile Lv. 79@Blackglasses
Dragon Claw
Leaf Blade
Crunch
Substitute
Golden Groudon
July 14th, 2005, 07:03 PM
Focus Punch w/out Sub/Follow me/Spore = no hits
If you want a fight move use Brick Break, but I really don't think it is necessary.
Focus Punch>Brick Brick on SPsweeping sceptile. Ever heard of using FP on the switch? You need it since you get owned by snorlax and bliss. Snorlax and Bliss gets owned by you if you use focus punch on the switch.
Prediction is cool. =D
§ Bleep §
July 14th, 2005, 07:41 PM
Its moves stink and its stats stink!
Anything more I need to say?
yeah and you honestly think swampert is much better, one leafblade(or any stabbed grass attack), ohko's it.
have you ever been down to ~1hp, had the petaya berry kick in, had overgrow kick in, and sweep? yeah tahts right though so. that alone does ~42% damage to most curselax's, and ohko's A LOT of things. hp ice pwns mence, t-punch pwns gyarados.
i didn't even get started with the whole "It wreaks havoc on bliss" thing yet. leechseed on blissey recovers about 1/3 of your health, which means free subs.
*grr*
Golden Groudon
July 14th, 2005, 07:52 PM
i didn't even get started with the whole "It wreaks havoc on bliss" thing yet. leechseed on blissey recovers about 1/3 of your health, which means free subs.
You get owned if you have all Sattacks and without leech seed, which happens to be a set I was raging about. =D
And about the sweeping part, don't forget to mention it's speed. ;D
Ice demon
July 14th, 2005, 08:47 PM
Leech seed basically lets u do damage against bliss/lax.
With the added bonus of extra subs.
sceptile has base 85 for attack.
Not that bad.....it could use FP if needed.
At least its better than a pure Sp. sceptile