Hurricane Katrina

[Chase Leader]

This is terrible, with the majority of Louisiana flooded, many remain missing and thousands presumed dead. My heart does go out to every one who has lost someone or something. Bush said that this is the worst natural phenominon in US history...(I may have butchered it but its still the same message) Gas prices shot upward across the nation because one of the nations reserves in Louisiana were flooded completley and the oil is now in the water. The Gov said that there are lots of dead bodies and that they won't get to those in time, this could cause disease...this left me awstruke.
I knew Katrina would be big but hey I live in Minnesota what do I know about hurricanes? What are your reactions and your thoughts?

[Datriot]

well, I was shocked, I saw a satelitte image of the hurricane and it was massive!
I fell sorry for all those people who have lost their homes and lifes.....:(

[Karasuma]

u can say that again. my house is flloded.I'm using the Libraries computer. Where am I gonna sleep tonite?

[Lucid-Acid]

*lives in Louisiana* Oil is up too, most of the men here work on oil rigs offshore and we’re forced to come in during the storm, they let my brother come home at the last minute. >< We didn’t get hit as bad where I live, we lost electricity for a while, and we had rain but the wind didn’t tare as much stuff up. New Orleans got hit the worse, since it’s below sea level, it’s completely flooded, and a bunch of buildings collapsed, or caught on fire. The residents there wont be able to return home for at least a month, they declared Marshal’s Law there too, and there was a lot of looting by the people who stayed in the city. The superdome where they hold football games can hold 100,000 people, and it’s full up and has become a storm shelter, so has another arena near where I live, a lot of people are in town, and they have a ton of donation drives going around. Bleh, it’s a mess here. ><

[John Denver]

This really hits home to...I always kinda considered America "invincible" for some stupid reason, because natural disasters rarely ever happen here...Well, just goes to show nothing's safe from God...

woops, did I say God? My bad >_>

[Mr Cat Dog]

Why is this in Announcements? All current affairs things go in OC, no matter how bad they are. Tis very bad though.

Moving on up...

[Lust]

The superdome where they hold football games can hold 100,000 people, and it’s full up and has become a storm shelter,
They had to move everyone out of the Superdome, because the roof was leaking and they transfered them to San Antonio.

[Tsukasa]

Well since i live in florida it just passed us in miami,it did rock us and knock out or power for awhile but its all okay for the time being.I feel bad though cause my sister lives there with my father and its a terrible feeling have when you know a family member is in danger.

[Chibi-chan]

It's so sad..;-; CNN last night almost made be cry....there were all these sad stories and these people that were just lying there dead! T_T and yet some **** tards are raiding Walmarts...>> grrr....Meh, we dontated $200 to the relief fund :3

[Tsukasa]

It's so sad..;-; CNN last night almost made be cry....there were all these sad stories and these people that were just lying there dead! T_T and yet some **** tards are raiding Walmarts...>> grrr....Meh, we dontated $200 to the relief fund :3
What else is there to do?When worse come's to worse you have to do what you have to do to survive.

[Cybex Mewtwo]

Man...This stinks...caught wind of this today by my mother telling me a story...sad and depressing...

[The Fly]

The hurricane was the worse I've been in, that's for sure. As far inland as the Jackson area, I felt winds at hurricane force...our neighborhood was lucky, but on the other side of town...*shudders*

My family from there is up here with us indefinitely. Their insurance should cover the damages done to the house, but still...all their stuff is gone.

Yeah, it's really bad in New Orleans. I wouldn't be pissed at people looting if it was just for essentials...but people are looting crap they don't need! That really makes me mad...

On top of that, gas prices may have a permanent change. Who knows, gas prices may never run below 3 dollars again, based on the damage the oil reserves in the Gulf sustained...

[John Denver]

[font=tahoma]Who knows, gas prices may never run below 3 dollars againfont]

Ack, please don't say that :(:(:(:( *stabs self*

WhY! gas WHY!

[Eliana]

I wish them most luck, to those in New Orleans...
It's terrible, thinking about how it may never be rebuilt...

I also hope those who died rest in peace~


~Eli

[ryan]

did anybody anticipate this? i mean... some people got out so that they must have seen it coming. it's aweful that not everybody could evacuate in time. i'd have thought if any of the states were gonna get owned by natural disaster it'd be my california coast... so, california's prayers (well, at least mine and those of others at my church) are with you louisiana.

[wishirulz]

ok striaght out of the TVs mouth o got this " president bush gave up all rescue teams because some idiots shoot at the copters i mean wtf! and bush is there with his stupid dog! just because a retard shot once your going to abandone no-sir-y-bob. bush is a lazy slob/lier/unworthy of his title and a total lacker at his job! sorry but clinton was one of America's best primister

[The Hunk]

This really hits home to...I always kinda considered America "invincible" for some stupid reason, because natural disasters rarely ever happen here...Well, just goes to show nothing's safe from God...

woops, did I say God? My bad >_>
Don't say woops, your on the bullet with that statement.

This a truly devastating event in American history. The only we can do now help relief efforts, pray for those effected, and give thanksgiving that we are are safe.

[Lucid-Acid]

ok striaght out of the TVs mouth o got this " president bush gave up all rescue teams because some idiots shoot at the copters i mean wtf! and bush is there with his stupid dog! just because a retard shot once your going to abandone no-sir-y-bob. bush is a lazy slob/lier/unworthy of his title and a total lacker at his job! sorry but clinton was one of America's best primister
Your really offtopic there, and stop flaming.

[Chase Leader]

Well, I happen to like Bush...I mean hes only doing what everyone else in his position would do. There are tons in need of major help, but we just don't have the troops...you know why cause there across seas...75% of soilders who join go into action, and that wasn't the case until the war in Iraq, Bush is only doing what he can. Its going to take years to rebuild and start over, many in fact fleeing. I just saw on the news that citizens of Louisiana are seeking refuge here, and I live in Minnesota.

[Jeremy]

Well sweeties, I've read all the articles, and watch the reports. I feel so sorry for the victiums, and families who lost their family members. T-T My friend is going to Louisiana to help his family. Thank God all his family members there are all right. I'm gonna some food and money to this. All we can do is pray... ~Jeremy

[Arcanine Fan 101]

Well I feal sad for the people in the super dome now.But on my way to school when we were hit with leftover rain I got sick!

[Ryoutarou]

Something I found in another forum...

From a friend of a friend in Baton Rouge...


Yeah, I'm still in B.R.

Don't come back here for a while. They are trying to stifle it on the
news but crime is running rampant here and people are panicking. They
shut downtown B.R. down on the Government exit, sending all government
officials home becuase it was unsafe. I talked to a gentlman while
waiting in line who worked down there, people were being escorted to
their cars by the swat team. I almost bought a gun, and you know I hate
them. I do carry mace wherever I go. Carjackings, rapes, robberies are
being heard about all over the city but nobody offical is saying
anything. We're thinking about moving, and so are other people I work
with. I'm hoping it calms down soon though, now that they're actually
getting more people out of N.O. with the convoys this morning (friday).
Took them long enough, those poor people.

*hug*

IF you go back to N.O. please please please be careful. They burned down
the mall on the westbank, and are lighting everything on fire down there.
The cops are quitting but I'm sure you're hearing all of this.

Gah, I have a few friends there I haven't talked to in a while, hope they're alright.

[Wolf_Goddess]

Yeah, I've been reading the newspaper (a thirteen year old who reads the newspaper everyday, GASP!) and its really sad. My mom says that all the jails got knocked away, and theres a lot of violence going around in New Orleans as I read. If they weren't killed by the storm, they could get killed by the escaped convicts. Good thing I'm in New Jersey, and we usually get the rains and the floods, not the destruction.

[Satrijou]

I heard about the hurricane in the news too, and I feel sorry for everyone. Destroyed houses, destroyed ways..destroyed lifes.. =(

[Karasuma]

Yeah, I just hope that my cousin is okay. he said that he was living outside since his house is completely flooded. oh my poor cousin,ccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope he's okay?

[Greed]

::pats MysticTrunks:: Erm.. I don't know how to say this. eh.. cheer up, mmkay? :)

I am not a victim, but I live in Houston and a lot of the victims have been evacuated here. They're living in the astrodome, it gets pretty cramped up there.

I feel bad for them (and I hate sounding mean) but the most of the victims are acting like real a-holes.

A friend that I have volunteered to help out, and she says a lot of the astrodome residents are becoming violent. They're beating eachother up for some freaking food. Most of them are being stupid morons, they're not grateful that Houston is trying their best to give them some freakin shelter and then they're sabotaging our freakin stores. :/

But yes, I do feel very bad for the casualties. I mean, its pretty sad losing somebody like that.. I'm planning on donating too, especially on Christmas. I got some nice spanking new toys that I could give to those poor children.

..It must feel terrible leaving your hometown and living in some strange butt town..

[Karasuma]

Thanks for the pat. But I'll try to call him since his phone must be underwater.

P.S. My cousin is not an a-hole, Greeb.

[Greed]

..Don't you mean Greed? :p

No I was not calling your cousin an a-hole o_o; I was saying the vandals were the a-holes, not the victims >_>; I don't even know your cousin lol

[Karasuma]

Oh, Losiento mucho Greed.

[Ryoutarou]

Well you have to look at it from their point of view too. They've come almost nine hours on buses that have little to no cooling systems, packed buses at that. They're sick, hungry, a lot probably just lost family members...most lost everything they had. And all that happens in less than a week? It'd get to anyone, there isn't a person that could go through all that and not start to crack.

[Greed]

No hay problema, MysticTrunks. I'm not that mean to bash on anybody :)

To me, they should behave. :/ We're cracking our butts open to give them shelter, and food.

What they're doing here is breaking our stores open, and getting in trouble. We're being nice, and they're acting like freaks.

They just ought to get a grip. Their home is lost, bad thing. But at least they got their lives. So what if their hometown went to hell? They should just try to be more grateful to the towns providing shelter for them, it just annoys me :/

[Karasuma]

No hay problema, MysticTrunks. I'm not that mean to bash on anybody :)

To me, they should behave. :/ We're cracking our butts open to give them shelter, and food.

What they're doing here is breaking our stores open, and getting in trouble. We're being nice, and they're acting like freaks.

They just ought to get a grip. Their home is lost, bad thing. But at least they got their lives. So what if their hometown went to hell? They should just try to be more grateful to the towns providing shelter for them, it just annoys me :/

Oh you speak Spanish? Anyway, did you see when the President went there and was hugging people. It's so nice of him. :laugh:

[Ryoutarou]

Some people just can't get a grip, it's not as easy as just showing them what they have. It's not just their home they lost, they lost everything, they lost the places where they grew up, they lost where they had spent most of their life. And right now they're doing anything they can just to stay alive I guess. It's probably why there are people being killed in that city by looters with guns....everything's just a mess right now and until yesterday communication was the worst it could have ever been.

[Greed]

I can't blame them for being nervous, that happens to all of us. But that gives them no reason to start pummeling everybody. They're so out of control that the police even got permission to inmediately shoot vandals on sight. If they survive, good. If they don't, too bad~

::To MysticTrunks::
Si, yo hablo espanol. XD Eso es obvio :3

I'm not a supporter of Bush. He only is demanding CASH DONATIONS.. Greedy moron. ::looks at self::

[Rated R Superstar™]

It's so ****ed up,I can't even stand it. It's so depressing seeing people walking in water,crying,it's just so sad. Espeically when that one man with both his children AND his grandkids who claimed he lost his wife(He wasn't really sure.)

"She said...Take care of the kids."
"She was all I had."
"I have nothing to live for."

And the retarted newsreporter asked him: Where are you going now?

"I have NOWHERE to go. I'm lost."

I pray everynight that these people survive this horror,and hopefully,that he will find his wife.

[Amy-chan]

To the victims of this terrible devastation: our prayers are with you. I live in California and feel horrible about what is happening on the Gulf coast. I read the paper and watch the news and it is just total chaos. I feel bad that all I can do is put a few measly dollars in the donation box in P.E.. I plan on dumping my life savings(fifty bucks) into it the next time they pass it around...

All I can say is this: in times of crisis, when all seems lost, the best thing you can do is to keep hoping and believing somehow. There is a good God and I believe that people are really mostly good, and people will keep trying hard to help all they can.

[Karasuma]

I wanted Kerry to win because I knew something like this may happen. First we had the war with Iraq to woory about and now this. I wonder how much la Gasolina is going to be when I get a car. It better not be $5.00 to $10.00 or I'll stranggle myself.
(*getting ready to Die*) Ugh...

[PrinceOfDarkness]

Hurricane Katrina was a horrible tragic event, those you have lost ones, I'd like to say that I am feeling bad that ones you loved have lost (unless you didn't lose any XD)

I heard at school that the floods have gotten really really deep o.O

[Karasuma]

Thankx lunicantjohhny. I hope not? I just gotta see my cousin.

[Dragon-Chan]

I'm so sorry, MT....and everyone else....*blows nose*

[Karasuma]

thankx dragon-chan. It's good to see that you guys care for my cousin and everyone else who needs to see their relatives.

[AngelWolfie]

I almost cried watching the news this morning. There were all these traumatized old people lying on stretchers, and bodies and people who lost families... It's all incredibly tragic and heartbreaking.

[Latias_fan]

Unless some one requested this let's start something for all the victems.

[AngelWolfie]

Unless some one requested this let's start something for all the victems.
Nice idea... hmm... But how? Should we contact the red cross or somethiong and start a fundraiser or a petition or something?

[saul]

This is sad, very sad. Right before 9/11 too >.< I'm sitting here watching TV, man I cry too much xD I see this little girl asking for help and I burst into tears.... = (
I'm here in Arizona not much action here, but tommorow morning (ALL morning) I'm collecting donation around where I live, I hope everyone is alright...

edit - I made a small banner (see sig) for anyone who is actually doing something to help the victims, please use it ^^

[Agent9]

Too many things are happening to America...........but, we just have to be strong and pull through. If we got through 9/11, then shouldn't we be able to get past a flood? I feel sadness for the people in New Orleans, but still, you should be happy that we have food and houses. In a way it's mixed feelings.....I feel lucky I live here in America, but then I feel sad because everything happens to it. Even though I have mixed feelings, I will be strong and pull through. My school has a fundraiser called "Dollars for Disaster" and I plan on donating 100 dollars. Please help support the Red Cross and all other Donating funds

[Lily]

Sad.

I live in New Jersey, so I know can't relate to the true essence of the disaster, but I'll still pray for those who have lost things they didn't deserve to lose. In response to the people looting stores and whatnot, desperation can lead to dramatic effects, however wrong it may be.

[Frostweaver]

The real serious part of the problem is actually NOT about the immediate damage the flood did, but the water that will NEVER go away naturally. It's a real tragic at the commerical lost, but who cares about oil when the death rate shall triple within a week because of the mentioned crime rate, and the following...

The flooded areas are all below sea level. This means that there is just absolutely no way (evaporation seriously doesn't count) for the water to naturally disappear. USA Government did send some pumps down there to get the water out, but how many pumps and how long will it take to get out all that water within an entire state? You got a huge pool of still water, with at least 60000 people trapped inside. Diseases will break out so easily in this situation. All the clean water is in ruin, so you lost water supply on top of diseases.

Assume that the government succeeded in rescuing all the people from the trap. You still got an entire state flooded with water. Even the workers there can be afflicted with those illness when they try to pump out that water. On TV here, I saw a helicopter with a tiny bucket trying to pump water out that way? Unless USA got some secret technology coming up, Louisana maybe flooded for a good old half a year if we're to wait for helicopters to clean up the flooding in such inefficient manner. Now let's make further assumption how USA miraculously got all the water out. You still got the street cleanup, and finishing off the diseases...

I know that Canada has already sent a technical support team to assist the rescue missions, but it's a massive 560,000 dollars to fund the team of 46 people for only 10 days, and that's assuming the 46 people will not share their clean water/food supplies with the victimes (which they definitely will do.)

On top of our prayers, USA will also need heavy financial fundings...



On the other hand, nobody mentioned Hurrican Emily that is even stronger than Hurrican Katrina, and smashed Mexico to pieces? Poor Mexico is in the same desperate need, just like the USA too... (but it's true that their water can flow away naturally though, unlike the below sea-level areas in the USA, yet still... pray for Mexico/that region too)

[Brittany]

I think blame should be layed heavily on the government, knowing that many towns in poverty would be washed underwater far beforehand and not providing the means of evacuation for the sick/elderly/poor who couldn't get out on their own. A friend of mine's mother has been sent to help the relief effort there and many of the people she has aided tried to flee beforehand with no luck.

gj usa

[2wingsrbettaden1]

The safest place to be in these situation's is in your basement. You should also be under a strong table or chair just incase the roof falls in.

[Brittany]

The safest place to be in these situation's is in your basement. You should also be under a strong table or chair just incase the roof falls in.
Flooding in areas below sea level, a table or chair will get in the way of your air supply. Good thinking though.

[2wingsrbettaden1]

Wouldn't it help if some they set up a huge pump/pipe leading to the Atlantic? they could get the pipe/pump to travel from the sewers to the Ocean...... the just continue pumping and Viola! that takes care of the excess water.... and im sure Famine Relief Organizations could supply food.

[Alana]

I was shocked by the hurricanes power. I live in north Alabama and during Ivan we get some wind and rain but nothing special. I've felt stronger gusts from strong thunderstorms. During Katrina the wind was so strong it sounded like thunder. I didn't feel any of it because I stayed inside but it took our power out for about a day. Our power didn't even flicker during Ivan. Afterward school was two hours late(that I'll cheer for) and depree(SP) was everywhere. Mostly leaves and sticks and pine needles but there were a few trees down and larger branches too. My thoughts were that if Katrina was still that powerful when it hit us, it must have been like an F5 tornado or worse when it hit the coast. I never gave much thought to how powerful a catagory five hurricane was. And I've watched the news a lot and the images are terrible. Thousands of people are sitting out side a refugee center and no one has come to help them. Why? It's crazy. It's called a refugee center for a reason and they were sent there for help.

Plus the gas prices are killer. I don't think I've ever seen it three dollars and it's still going up. In some places it's five dollars. I don't think we'll be going out nearly as much as we used to. Except for school and food, we'll probably be staying home. I realyl hope it doesn't reach five dollars a gallon here. I remember once when it was ninety nine cents. Didn't last long but if that happened now the gas would be gone before the day was even close to over. But complaining about it won't help. I would get started on another subject but if I get into the current president I'll probably start a war.

[Wish]

shesh my house was destroyed by andrew but by Katrina gosh thier population will go DOWN Down down

[Chairman Kaga]

There is no one person to blame; bureaucracy is often sluggish and apathetic, but never malevolent. It takes time for a thousand-headed creature to make sure that all its heads are thinking the same thing. And frankly, we've never had a situation like this in our history so we have absolutely no idea how to react; we have to balance staring frozen in slackjawed horror at the devastation and finding an effective way to react. We're lost, unprepared, and it doesn't help that morons with political gain on their minds are already throwing the race card in the face of those who are trying to help and that there's such a level of anarchy now that snipers are shooting at doctors trying to get critical patients out of the city.

I'll edit this later with the rest of my thoughts. I may not have sounded like it above, but I'm horrified beyond anything I can say.

[saul]

The real serious part of the problem is actually NOT about the immediate damage the flood did, but the water that will NEVER go away naturally. It's a real tragic at the commerical lost, but who cares about oil when the death rate shall triple within a week because of the mentioned crime rate, and the following...

The flooded areas are all below sea level. This means that there is just absolutely no way (evaporation seriously doesn't count) for the water to naturally disappear. USA Government did send some pumps down there to get the water out, but how many pumps and how long will it take to get out all that water within an entire state? You got a huge pool of still water, with at least 60000 people trapped inside. Diseases will break out so easily in this situation. All the clean water is in ruin, so you lost water supply on top of diseases.

Assume that the government succeeded in rescuing all the people from the trap. You still got an entire state flooded with water. Even the workers there can be afflicted with those illness when they try to pump out that water. On TV here, I saw a helicopter with a tiny bucket trying to pump water out that way? Unless USA got some secret technology coming up, Louisana maybe flooded for a good old half a year if we're to wait for helicopters to clean up the flooding in such inefficient manner. Now let's make further assumption how USA miraculously got all the water out. You still got the street cleanup, and finishing off the diseases...

I know that Canada has already sent a technical support team to assist the rescue missions, but it's a massive 560,000 dollars to fund the team of 46 people for only 10 days, and that's assuming the 46 people will not share their clean water/food supplies with the victimes (which they definitely will do.)

On top of our prayers, USA will also need heavy financial fundings...



On the other hand, nobody mentioned Hurrican Emily that is even stronger than Hurrican Katrina, and smashed Mexico to pieces? Poor Mexico is in the same desperate need, just like the USA too... (but it's true that their water can flow away naturally though, unlike the below sea-level areas in the USA, yet still... pray for Mexico/that region too)


WHO CARES ABOUT OIL!?!?!
yes, I think what everyone right now is mainly concerned about getting any vitims to safety, but oil will be a huge loss. Here in Arizona Gas stations have already run out of gas and people have to wait a week to get it in!

[Kurono]

I never thought Katrina would it so hard, I was on vacation and just thought it was another storm, then I heard Norleans was under water. Yeah, a modern day Venice. Well I hope everythings okay there. Though it obviously isn't..I've been in a flood once, so I know how it feels to be in a state of emergency...

[Greed]

Frostweaver's got a point, the people in Mexico need our prayers too.

The reason its so bad, its because where Katrina struck, the region is almost like a depression. When water gets in, its very difficult to get it out. :/

It may take months for them to come back home..

[jc_rcw]

I live here in Miami,Florida were it passed and it didn't look that harsh but arter it got out of Florida it got stronger by second.I never thought it would be that strong.

[Lust]

Mexico got hit too?

I heard that it would take at least a couple of months to get electricity again.

[Karasuma]

Mexico got hit? How come they didn't pass that on the news?

[Frostweaver]

Mexico got hit? How come they didn't pass that on the news?

News reporter: Oh it's just Mexico plus they're hit by so many storms every summer anyway. OH MY <swear swear> 2 PEOPLE GOT SHOT IN USA, like, CATASTROPHIC! Hurry crew! We must get there immediately!


Mexico did get hit, but nowhere as extensive in damage because they are prepared through experience, and Mexico doesn't have a huge pot of water.

Even more importantly, Mexico got no oil so screw Mexico for the world. Fellow Europeans, let's donate to the USA so they can set up their oil factories asap.

(I'm sorry people, but that's politics)

Katrina is stronger when it hit Florida, but Florida isn't below sea level so it is fine. The water keeps accumulating in those regions below sea level, so the damage dramatically increases.

[Chairman Kaga]

@#$%, I wish people could learn to tell the difference between the American media and the American people. WE care, THEY don't. Don't judge us by our news. We can't help not knowing it if they don't tell us.

[Christian001]

I hear they're renaiming New Orleans Atlantis.

Rofl

[AngelWolfie]

That's NOT funny! People have died, homes destroyed, unrepairable damage done...Considering your a christian you should be praying for these people , not making jokes about them!

[Akio123]

That is horrible. How can you laugh at that? Anyway, I am going to start a collection fund at my school, so we can send care packages and money to help repair New Orleans.

[Alana]

Our school is to. And I agree that was not funny. I can see where you got the bad rep. We packed a box full of canned food and romen adn stuff to donate to the people in New Orleans. I hope it helps.

[Alana]

*beeper goes off* Spam alert spam alert spam alert. *reports* Don't do that or you'll get into more trouble.

[jc_rcw]

News reporter: Oh it's just Mexico plus they're hit by so many storms every summer anyway. OH MY <swear swear> 2 PEOPLE GOT SHOT IN USA, like, CATASTROPHIC! Hurry crew! We must get there immediately!


Mexico did get hit, but nowhere as extensive in damage because they are prepared through experience, and Mexico doesn't have a huge pot of water.

Even more importantly, Mexico got no oil so screw Mexico for the world. Fellow Europeans, let's donate to the USA so they can set up their oil factories asap.

(I'm sorry people, but that's politics)

Katrina is stronger when it hit Florida, but Florida isn't below sea level so it is fine. The water keeps accumulating in those regions below sea level, so the damage dramatically increases.

I'm just informing you that when Katrina hit Florida it was a category 1 Hurricane and when it hit Louisian it was a category 5 Hurricane.Big difference.

[Akio123]

He is right about that. Anyway, my friends and I have already starto organize it. We saw all these benefits and we had to doo something about it. We have to help in anyway.

[Innocence]

Y'know, Concerning basements, What if you don't have one? Then you go in the bathroom. I've allways considered australia "Safer" because we don't really have tornados or earthquakes. But i feel sorry for all the people who died:(

[Agent9]

Well um...some people from New Orleans came to California. Then they went to this place that's like a church. And then the homeless people came inside to eat. I passed out sodas when the people came in. Then this guy said he lost a leg in the water because his leg hit a log from a tree. And I thought that was odd. Well I have done something to help the victims of katrina

[The Fly]

I am NOT looking forward to school on Thursday...

When Jackson area schools re-open, we expect to see thousands of students going to school here, which will give way to overcrowding.

Schools in Madison County, the county I live in, are especially overcrowded with the huge boost in population in the past five years. It's going to be pretty unusual going to school with so many kids...*shudders*

People on my street are sending money to the Mississippi Gulf Coast to help our fellow Mississippians. Although we're a lower middle class neighborhood with some households in poverty conditions, we have enough money to help.

[The Dash]

Ok sorry if I'm breaking any rules here but...
I was watching a news report on channel four earlyer today and it was about the army searchign for survivors of HK.

Well I got extremely annoyed at the thing and broke my TV...Wanna know why?
Because they were floating past looking for HUMAN surviors, nothing else...No animals...I love animals so much ok? And they were filming loads of dogs stranded on houses,etc....and I thought to myself "WHY THE F&!# arn't they doing anythign about the animals?They filmed this one dog on his last legs floating along the river...I thought..."I now realise that all news reporters are heartless,souless,evil ba#?!erds". I then got fully enraged and pushed the tv off its stand ...Smashing my Xbox,Dvd player,etc...I just couldent belive what I was watching...

I felt the same way about when they do reports from disaster zones with Humans..DON'T JUST STAND THERE FILMING DO SOMETHING!

...Yeah this will probably be closed but...oh well ^_^

[wishirulz]

ok after one week the helps (food, clothes etc...) comes , that's at the maximum to slow, in the tsunamy they sended like 5 hours after the actident.

[Karasuma]

ok after one week the helps (food, clothes etc...) comes , that's at the maximum to slow, in the tsunamy they sended like 5 hours after the actident.

Yeah, I just talked to my cousin and he's doing pretty well. I've told him that the only thing that matters is that He's in good health cause you can always buy houses, but not lives. ^_^

[John Denver]

Why was this closed? I think this is a valid thread with a plause for conversation...

Who thinks there should be efforts made to save animals as well as people?

[Imakuni?]

Who thinks there should be efforts made to save animals as well as people?
Aye, Aye captain.

very good point ダッシュ. it angers me taht the crews just stand there filming and they dont do anything to help.

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[Lucid-Acid]

Um... yeah, this is unessisary, I'm going to lock it this time. o.o;

*locks*

[John Denver]

I may sound heartless but...I really don't think they should...I think they should focus 100% of their offorts on saving people, I mean, you can say a dog's life is more important than a little girls. I'm not saying you should ignore the animals all together, but put the priority on peope first

Um... yeah, this is unessisary, I'm going to lock it this time. o.o;

*locks*

O_o;;

I don't believe this is unecessary, I think it's a good topic. It doesn't break the rules or spam, whats wrong with it?

*opens*

[Natsuki]

Ya know I alwayd did wonder how newscasters could just stand there and film a disaster like that and not just want to leap into action and start saving lives. <<; I mean, have someone film you saving people or something if it's so God **** important. --;

As for the animal thing, I'm a huge animal rights kind of person. XD I don't understand why people can't try to give an equal amount of effort to save the beloved pets of those whose homes were destroyed by the hurricane. Afterall, it wasn't just the humans who lost homes, but all of those loyal animals did as well.

I do agree with what Dakota said, there is the need to put humans as the first priority, but that does not mean we have to disregard the animals' needs entirely. <.<

~Kelsey

[Lucid-Acid]

I may sound heartless but...I really don't think they should...I think they should focus 100% of their offorts on saving people, I mean, you can say a dog's life is more important than a little girls. I'm not saying you should ignore the animals all together, but put the priority on peope first



O_o;;

I don't believe this is unecessary, I think it's a good topic. It doesn't break the rules or spam, whats wrong with it?

*opens*
There’s already a thread about the hurricane, I still don’t think we need a separate one discussing other aspects of it.

[Ryoutarou]

Merges

That'll work for now~

Anywho, animals are important and all...but animals are meant to live outdoors in rough conditions. Humans on the other hand aren't, they can't take the same type of living that animals can and it's much harder for an older human to get by than it is for an older animal.

[Stemps]

I think this whole thing is Bush's fault...He goes in to VEIW the damage. I bet you he seen at least 100 people on thier roof tops waiting to be rescued and he didn't do jack for them! He is SAYING he wants money to help but the real people who are doing the recovery is the neighboring states....and diffrent states around....congress and the pres isn't doing jack! It ticks me off! We need a new president!

[Ryoutarou]

I think this whole thing is Bush's fault...He goes in to VEIW the damage. I bet you he seen at least 100 people on thier roof tops waiting to be rescued and he didn't do jack for them! He is SAYING he wants money to help but the real people who are doing the recovery is the neighboring states....and diffrent states around....congress and the pres isn't doing jack! It ticks me off! **** Bush! We need a new president!
Watch your mouth, you may not like him, but that doesn't give you any right to break the rules.

[Stemps]

Sorry but I still beleive its his fault I will edit my post.

[John Denver]

I think this whole thing is Bush's fault...He goes in to VEIW the damage. I bet you he seen at least 100 people on thier roof tops waiting to be rescued and he didn't do jack for them! He is SAYING he wants money to help but the real people who are doing the recovery is the neighboring states....and diffrent states around....congress and the pres isn't doing jack! It ticks me off! **** Bush! We need a new president!

Shutup....do that again and you get a temporary ban...read the rules why don't you.

How is this bush's fault? Did bush use his magic gypsy powers to cause the hurricane? Besides, America has never been hit by a natural disaster like this one before...we really don't know how to react...this is a learning mode if anything...

[Stemps]

[QUOTE=Dakota]Shutup....do that again and you get a temporary ban...read the rules why don't you.

I edited my post andI aplogized if you looked. Its Bushes fault because he took the money away from The Corps. of Engineer who where buildingthe levies...He took their money away 2 years ago...the levies would have been stronger if he hadn't of took the money away! Thats how its his fault...the Hurricane isn't but the flooding and and people not being rescued is....this is America people! The typhoon victims got more help than this! people are lying dead in the middle of streets old people are covered up by cloths....babies are dying left and right and it is rediculus.and FEMA should be helping aswell. THey said meet them at the Civic Center and NO ONE was there! They are FINALLY pumping the water out when they could have did that the DAY after the Hurricane not a week after...Like I said before this is America the richest country in the world and we have people suffering like this?!

[Karasuma]

Don't do this. I post like every day in here. Wah! Randall-Kun, stop this talk about bush.

[Stemps]

FREEDOM OF SPEECH! I can talk anyway I want to! I am voiceing my opinion!

[Ryoutarou]

Do you have even the slightest idea how hard a pump is to set up under the conditions they have to deal with? Exactly, America has never had to deal with anything like this, communication was cut short, police officers ducked out and left almost no one to deal with the looters for a long while. And the area where the pump was set up had to be cleared first, it's a very remote area, so at the most one guard can be taken, looters and any other crazy person that wanted to could just go and shoot the workers...and that's been happening lately.

And no, the internet does not mean America, and you're on a board with rules, you have your limits.

[Stemps]

I have Limits i know that! But Bush should have the army in there! I I hope your familes are safe! I gtg bye!

[ClappySeel!]

well the navy or somthin has lots of jets and stuff and ive heard they've been usen even the apache helicopters to get the people otta there.

and on the animal subject there isnt any food to give the animals!
i am an animal lover so i think that those people who set up that find your pet site are my heros!

[Frostweaver]

If the leader of the country is to be blamed whenever s/he took money away from something that has the POTENTIAL to be useful, then no one will be a politician because no one will qualify.

If we ever life a live with so many "could have" and "what if" then just kill yourself off right away... you will spend your entire life thinking about it because there's endless ways to ask yourself these types of questions. Oh what if I didn't go to this school but go to this school instead? Oh I could have saved some money by not going to the restaurant here and did this instead... Oh oh oh what if this what if I could have done this blah blah blah.

Or I can blame the death of a child because of you, Randall-Kun, in the same manner.

"Oh why did you go to eat out in a restaurant on <insert date here>! You know that you only need 29 dollars american per month, and give the money to WorldVision Organization in order to dig a well, build a bridge on top of funding a poor kid in a 3rd world country to go to school!? A precious child probably died out of hunger, or suffer a poor life due to your refusal to fund for these children and went to fill your stomach with unnecessarily rich food instead!" and blah blah blah I can go on but let's not.

I can spin the entire hurricane to sound like it's the people's fault too if I'm to be obstinate. I can blame then for not seeing the warning message on TV on the Thursday before the storm. A lot of people ran, but why not these remainig people who are still stuck there? Oh they're poor they can't afford to lose anything, but so what? Regardless of the people staying there or not, they can't do anything about the hurricane anyway in terms of destroying the little they have. They could have ran as much as they can. Even the edge of New Orlean will be a lot better than staying in the city center, and so on. Blah blah blah

If we're looking for a blame, there's plenty of people who got responsibility, from Bush to the american people all the way up to the British, will be held responsible. It's seriously pointless... let's think of a way to solve the problem, and not sidetrack from the diaster by creating more problems.

On another recent news report, USA calculated the time it takes to pump out the water to be 3 months (4 at the latest.) They will need another 3 months to dry the ground assuming that the rainfall isn't unexpectionally high. A week of time at most after the drying period is necessary to remove the debris and clean up the ground, then they can restart on the rebuild process. At a rough estimation, the next year's summer New Orleans and any other affected area should start on its way back to a normal life.



And since "freedom of speech" is mentioned, does that mean Frosty gets it too? =D

If so, then considering how someone said "considering how America is the richest country on earth"... maybe this hurricane is a perfect sign from God the High Above as a wake-up slap against America.

Richest?

Most powerful?

"Meh"

[ClappySeel!]

uh whatevur last year i was hit by chrlie francis and jean!

[RyukoArabne]

Hurricane is a dangerous problem too!It is same as The big ombak in Indonesia...Its so sad...

[Arcanine]

I edited my post andI aplogized if you looked. Its Bushes fault because he took the money away from The Corps. of Engineer who where buildingthe levies...He took their money away 2 years ago...the levies would have been stronger if he hadn't of took the money away! Thats how its his fault...the Hurricane isn't but the flooding and and people not being rescued is....this is America people! The typhoon victims got more help than this! people are lying dead in the middle of streets old people are covered up by cloths....babies are dying left and right and it is rediculus.and FEMA should be helping aswell. THey said meet them at the Civic Center and NO ONE was there! They are FINALLY pumping the water out when they could have did that the DAY after the Hurricane not a week after...Like I said before this is America the richest country in the world and we have people suffering like this?!
I think it's funny to see that even a Hurricane hits and Bush gets blamed for it. Isn't there enough things out there to blame him on? Bush can no more prevent a Hurricane no more then you can.
Ok time to set a few things right about your post (and then on to the part about the Hurricane).
Bush didn't take money away from them. That problem was there when good ol' Bill Clinton was there and he did nothing about it. So why are you not saying anything about him? Why doesn't he get a bit of blame from you but Bush gets it all? If you really have to blame someone then go out and blame the Mayor of New Orleans. He has been told for years and years that the levy wouldn't withstand anything bigger then a cat 3, did he do anything? No, he didn't do anything about it when he was told that. And he saw it coming so why didn't he evacuate the city? Like it or not the President can't be everywhere at the same time. He can't be doing everything at the same time, if he was then we wouldn't need a Mayor or anyone else.
Did you know Bush got FEMA to send busses and busses down there to get the people out? He sent them down there 3-7 days before it hit New Orleans. Do you know where all them busses are now? They are under water and sitting where FEMA left them, because the Mayor didn't evacuate the city. If he evacuated then (when Bush sent all them busses down there) then lots and lots of of lives would have been saved. I heard on the news that they went to an old folks home, they found 80 dead there. If you got to blame someone for them 80 dead people that couldn't have made it out on their own, then blame the Mayor of New Orleans.
I was listening to Rush Limbaugh (all of you should tune into his show, on the radio if you live in the US you might be able to pick him up in other countries since he does have more people that listens to his show then any other show on the radio. He has lots of ideas that makes you think) the other day. And he was talking about how we have all the advancements and all that stuff. But we can't stop a Hurricane (or anything else out of nature) no better then we could thousands of years ago. But Bush gets blamed for it because he didn't "do something" about it.

I think it's sad to see a lot of that city under water, and you also got people burning buildings and stuff down and looting everything. It's like they have to have a way to get away with it (they wouldn't have done it before, but now that no one can stop them they are doing it). I can understand looting for food and stuff for your family or a necessity (clothes, fresh water etc). But having 5 boxes of new Nike shoes or a new big screen TV is not a necessity. And that's what's sad, they are trying to make money out of this (they wouldn't have got the stuff before the Hurricane).

I feel sorry for them people that lost everything down there. And I feel sorry for the loss of life that happened out of all this. The ones that's still alive still has their life, and they should be thankful that they have that. Homes and cars and all that kind of stuff can be replaced. Lives can't, if they made it out then they should be happy about that. I know I would hate to lose everything I own, but if me and my family is safe then that's what matters. Not how much money you lost, or how much money you'll get from whoever.
I really can't say much about the lives lost, because most of them new it was going to hit them. And they had a chance to get out before hand, but they didn't. Any loss of life is sad (may it be from this Hurricane to the war in Iraq to someone having a wreck in a car) and I fear once all the water is drained and they can get to all the homes and building the death toll will go high. But to me a lot of them deaths could have been prevented by just them leaving their home (they put the home and the things in it over their own life and they had to pay a price for it as well).

[Frostweaver]

The only thing Bush gets blamed for (that is within reason) is that the army didn't join the rescue mission until, I think, 4 days after the hurricane hit. That 4 day delay for the army is what's getting Bush into trouble in terms of how he dealt with the storm.

The other thing that's rather suspicious is the poker face regarding the strength of the storm. When the Bush government (but not Bush himself) has to face the media regarding the hurricane and its destruction, the official (I forgot who the man is... I'm not American so I don't know my American politicians that well at all) claimed that they underestimated the strength of the storm to be a 4 or even 5. Of course, Canada CTV News got that right away, and they played another clip of the local weather forecast in USA on the Thursday/Friday before the hurricane hit. Over there, of course they warned that it is probably the first hurricane in history ranked 4 or even a 5 there...

I don't blame Bush for the slow reaction because I think that it's understandable considering how USA has never been hit by something like this throughout any part of history. In fact, hardly anywhere in the world has ever been hit by a hurricane so strong, besides perhaps Mexico and Japan where they're well trained for earthquakes/storms. Don't blame Bush for the funding on the dam either, because honestly it's once in a blue moon that the dam isn't strong enough against a hurricane like this. What I dislike about the Bush government (not Bush. It's the Bush government. Yes, there is a difference) is why did they lie to the media regarding their failure to predict the strength of the storm... they don't have to lie. Just tell us the fact that they're inexperienced at handling a hurricane of such strength, and they will be easily forgiven... but now, I do have to reconsider...


<= is normally a Bush supporter too, but this time Bush isn't too cool with the lies here

[Happy Dude]

*pats Andy* good job.How can a Hurricane be blamed on Bush.

My heart goes out to everyone who has suffered from this terrible hurricane.

[ClappySeel!]

yeah me to but serously i was hit by hurricane charlie francis and jean.

[wishirulz]

Hurricane is a dangerous problem too!It is same as The big ombak in Indonesia...Its so sad...
HAHAHA how old are you cause you became a TV victime **** man i swear, the ****in huricane came after 2 weeks, and the tsunamie came like in half a sec. killing thousands!
I think this whole thing is Bush's fault...He goes in to VEIW the damage. I bet you he seen at least 100 people on thier roof tops waiting to be rescued and he didn't do jack for them! He is SAYING he wants money to help but the real people who are doing the recovery is the neighboring states....and diffrent states around....congress and the pres isn't doing jack! It ticks me off! We need a new president!
i know what you mean i dont come from US but as much as i know that a country should respect his or her leader, he's gon to far. plus remember the **** about the nucks in palestine? maybe people did'nt, that's why they were stupid enough to re-elect him

[John Denver]

wishirulz...you get a warning to...stop flaming and spaming...You can't blame bush for this, you simply can't. You just want him to be your scapegoat, how sad is that.

No more flames on Bush or anybody else...mmkay?

[Stemps]

I think it's funny to see that even a Hurricane hits and Bush gets blamed for it. Isn't there enough things out there to blame him on? Bush can no more prevent a Hurricane no more then you can.
Ok time to set a few things right about your post (and then on to the part about the Hurricane).
Bush didn't take money away from them. That problem was there when good ol' Bill Clinton was there and he did nothing about it. So why are you not saying anything about him? Why doesn't he get a bit of blame from you but Bush gets it all? If you really have to blame someone then go out and blame the Mayor of New Orleans. He has been told for years and years that the levy wouldn't withstand anything bigger then a cat 3, did he do anything? No, he didn't do anything about it when he was told that. And he saw it coming so why didn't he evacuate the city? Like it or not the President can't be everywhere at the same time. He can't be doing everything at the same time, if he was then we wouldn't need a Mayor or anyone else.
Did you know Bush got FEMA to send busses and busses down there to get the people out? He sent them down there 3-7 days before it hit New Orleans. Do you know where all them busses are now? They are under water and sitting where FEMA left them, because the Mayor didn't evacuate the city. If he evacuated then (when Bush sent all them busses down there) then lots and lots of of lives would have been saved. I heard on the news that they went to an old folks home, they found 80 dead there. If you got to blame someone for them 80 dead people that couldn't have made it out on their own, then blame the Mayor of New Orleans.
I was listening to Rush Limbaugh (all of you should tune into his show, on the radio if you live in the US you might be able to pick him up in other countries since he does have more people that listens to his show then any other show on the radio. He has lots of ideas that makes you think) the other day. And he was talking about how we have all the advancements and all that stuff. But we can't stop a Hurricane (or anything else out of nature) no better then we could thousands of years ago. But Bush gets blamed for it because he didn't "do something" about it.

I think it's sad to see a lot of that city under water, and you also got people burning buildings and stuff down and looting everything. It's like they have to have a way to get away with it (they wouldn't have done it before, but now that no one can stop them they are doing it). I can understand looting for food and stuff for your family or a necessity (clothes, fresh water etc). But having 5 boxes of new Nike shoes or a new big screen TV is not a necessity. And that's what's sad, they are trying to make money out of this (they wouldn't have got the stuff before the Hurricane).

I feel sorry for them people that lost everything down there. And I feel sorry for the loss of life that happened out of all this. The ones that's still alive still has their life, and they should be thankful that they have that. Homes and cars and all that kind of stuff can be replaced. Lives can't, if they made it out then they should be happy about that. I know I would hate to lose everything I own, but if me and my family is safe then that's what matters. Not how much money you lost, or how much money you'll get from whoever.
I really can't say much about the lives lost, because most of them new it was going to hit them. And they had a chance to get out before hand, but they didn't. Any loss of life is sad (may it be from this Hurricane to the war in Iraq to someone having a wreck in a car) and I fear once all the water is drained and they can get to all the homes and building the death toll will go high. But to me a lot of them deaths could have been prevented by just them leaving their home (they put the home and the things in it over their own life and they had to pay a price for it as well).

Dude Clinton didn't take the money it was taken by Bush...if you payed any attention you would see that Bush has been in office for 6 years....Which is really dumb after he sent the troops to Iraq I could careless for him and now that the Hurricanne He is veiwing the city. Whatever....And you wouldn't blame the Mayor because he told them to get out they rode many other Hurricanes out so they thought they could this one to...that was thier own stupidity. But Bush did take the Coprs. money and FEMA didn't go down there I dont know what you are watching!


wishirulz...you get a warning to...stop flaming and spaming...You can't blame bush for this, you simply can't. You just want him to be your scapegoat, how sad is that.

No more flames on Bush or anybody else...mmkay?

Its more like how sad are you! He is the #1 target because he didn't do a thing about this yet and its crap!

u can say that again. my house is flloded.I'm using the Libraries computer. Where am I gonna sleep tonite?

I would LOVE to know what Library you are at because the power is out ALL over New Orleans. So I think you are blowing smoke bacuase there is NO way you got flooded unless you are in another state!

[Arcanine]

Ok Randall-Kun this is your final warning on flaming and going off topic before I give you a 1 week temp ban. You were told over and over again not to flame and bash Bush anymore (I don't even want to take the time to reply to your post because you're not worth it, I'm going to spend all that time typing up my reply and it's just going to go in one ear and out the other). Now if you want that ban then go on and yap about how Bush is the root of all evil like you been doing and I'll gladly give it to you. If not then don't say anything about Bush anymore (you were told twice not to do it and that post of Dakota's above yours says " No more flames on Bush or anybody else...mmkay?").

Now lets try to get back on topic.

[Chairman Kaga]

All that can be said about the idiocy of politicizing a natural disaster has been said at length and wonderfully. I commend all of you who know that there isn't a button in the White House labeled "Launch Hurricane". To those of you who are so blindly against the president that you would accuse him of hiring KKK Wizards to conjure up a hurricane that would target poor southern blacks, let me say that you're all fools.

Dude Clinton didn't take the money it was taken by Bush...

Nobody took any money; any money set aside for the buliding of defense structures sat unused thanks to the apathy of "mayor" Ray Nagin, and probably Governor Kathleen Blanco.

if you payed any attention you would see that Bush has been in office for 6 years....

January 2001-mid 2005 (thus far.) Four and a half years AT MOST.

Which is really dumb after he sent the troops to Iraq I could careless for him

You and millions of other people. Don't think you're special for hating Bush. You who try to come off as so punk are actually conforming. Wake up.

and now that the Hurricanne He is veiwing the city.

Good syntax, please? Every president tours areas that have been hit by a natural disaster so they can assess the damage for themself. It's only proper. You say he's in the wrong for trying to COMFORT people?

Whatever....And you wouldn't blame the Mayor because he told them to get out

That's all the mayor did. He's sat around since the hurricane in his polo shirts and his five-o-clock shadow trying to act as ghetto as he can and doing nothing except blame the government. He's incredibly incompetent. Even if "mayor" Nagin hadn't have urged people to leave, everyone would have anyway. No one with a car is going to try to ride out a category five storm for kicks.

they rode many other Hurricanes out so they thought they could this one to...that was thier own stupidity.

Scientists had repeatedly said that New Orleans would be destroyed if anything over a category three hit. It's not their stupidity, it was the local government's unwillingness to protect their own citizens.

But Bush did take the Coprs. money and FEMA didn't go down there

Erm, billions of dollars, all of FEMA's resources, and the national guard all made it down as quickly as they could. I have no idea what you're getting at.

I dont know what you are watching!

The news.

Its more like how sad are you! He is the #1 target because he didn't do a thing about this yet and its crap!

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Bush has done everything in his power, called up all the legislation he can, dispatched all the troops he can, freed all the funds he can, went to offer confidence as much as he can, and all that remains is left to the charity of the American people. He's one man, he controls a government with a thousand heads.

Until you can proove that you're not an "rofl bsh sxks die!!!!!!1:dead:" lemming, your points are invalidated.

[Stemps]

here is my last post in here!
(I don't even want to take the time to reply to your post because you're not worth it, I'm going to spend all that time typing up my reply and it's just going to go in one ear and out the other)
isn't that bashing me? didn't think staff could do that?

EDIT:

All that can be said about the idiocy of politicizing a natural disaster has been said at length and wonderfully. I commend all of you who know that there isn't a button in the White House labeled "Launch Hurricane". To those of you who are so blindly against the president that you would accuse him of hiring KKK Wizards to conjure up a hurricane that would target poor southern blacks, let me say that you're all fools.

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Originally Posted by Randall-kun
Dude Clinton didn't take the money it was taken by Bush...


Nobody took any money; any money set aside for the buliding of defense structures sat unused thanks to the apathy of "mayor" Ray Nagin, and probably Governor Kathleen Blanco.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Randall-kun
if you payed any attention you would see that Bush has been in office for 6 years....


January 2001-mid 2005 (thus far.) Four and a half years AT MOST.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Randall-kun
Which is really dumb after he sent the troops to Iraq I could careless for him


You and millions of other people. Don't think you're special for hating Bush. You who try to come off as so punk are actually conforming. Wake up.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Randall-kun
and now that the Hurricanne He is veiwing the city.


Good syntax, please? Every president tours areas that have been hit by a natural disaster so they can assess the damage for themself. It's only proper. You say he's in the wrong for trying to COMFORT people?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Randall-kun
Whatever....And you wouldn't blame the Mayor because he told them to get out


That's all the mayor did. He's sat around since the hurricane in his polo shirts and his five-o-clock shadow trying to act as ghetto as he can and doing nothing except blame the government. He's incredibly incompetent. Even if "mayor" Nagin hadn't have urged people to leave, everyone would have anyway. No one with a car is going to try to ride out a category five storm for kicks.

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Originally Posted by Randall-kun
they rode many other Hurricanes out so they thought they could this one to...that was thier own stupidity.


Scientists had repeatedly said that New Orleans would be destroyed if anything over a category three hit. It's not their stupidity, it was the local government's unwillingness to protect their own citizens.

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Originally Posted by Randall-kun
But Bush did take the Coprs. money and FEMA didn't go down there


Erm, billions of dollars, all of FEMA's resources, and the national guard all made it down as quickly as they could. I have no idea what you're getting at.

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Originally Posted by Randall-kun
I dont know what you are watching!


The news.

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Originally Posted by Randall-kun
Its more like how sad are you! He is the #1 target because he didn't do a thing about this yet and its crap!


You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Bush has done everything in his power, called up all the legislation he can, dispatched all the troops he can, freed all the funds he can, went to offer confidence as much as he can, and all that remains is left to the charity of the American people. He's one man, he controls a government with a thousand heads.

Until you can proove that you're not an "rofl bsh sxks die!!!!!!1" lemming, your points are invalidated.

Thats flaming to!

[Alana]

Alright cut it out. I may not be a mod but I can see when somethins gonna turn into a flame war. I'll admit. I hate Bush. But that's not what this topic is about. It's about the hurricane. Bush didn't make that happen as much I would like to blame him for it. All I've heard and seen on TV and know and blah blah blah. Yeah I'd like to speak my opinion on the subject but that would be stupid. So cut the stuff on Bush and talk about Katrina. A lowly member is asking you. Please?

[Chairman Kaga]

Hah, hilarious...I'm not worth it? That's blatant code for "All my arguments have no base and I just hate Bush because I hate him so nyah".

Oooh, so not only are you blindly anti-Bush, but you're blindly anti-staff! =D I suppose you consider any opinion other than your own "bashing." So be it, then :D

[Charizard_Fire_God]

*reads posts* Umm... *cough* Why is it that everytime somebody talks about current disasters, tch, especially uncontrollable an' unprovoked ones that it always somehow breaks out inta relligious/sexual/pollitical flaming? Tch, I won't even ask... @@

Anyways I saw tha news. Yeah, there were victims indeed, tch, but like whishirulz said, even though it was a cataclysmic force(F5s are tha most powerful tornadoes) its death toll doesn't reflect its force fully, since warnings got most ppl out of its path. Yes, tch, tha material damage will probably be tha biggest concern, tch, since, unlike ppl, properties don't move out of a tornado's path.
Other than that what can I say? Tch, it's a perfectly natural phenomenon. An F5 is indeed rare, but nevertheless still a natural phenomenon, tch, an' it will happen again at some point. Tornadoes just form, there's no way ta stop it... tch, an' as long as ppl will inhabit exposed areas,which they obviously will, since large city populations obviously have no intent of moving, there will always be a risk. Until mankind finds a way ta cope with, or block such callamities there will always be people dying.

*looks at locked threads in OC* Wow, tch, pollitical spirits are high this week... @@

[Stemps]

ok I lied not my last post! I bashed Bush i know that. as a matter of fact I meant to! I know your staff and I know Arcanine is staff but its still flaming and bashing!

[Alana]

......Katrina was a hurricane,....not a tornado. O_o Catagory fives are the worst. No one consideres just how much power they hold. I never thought much about it or even thought that it might be really as bad as I heard. But it just goes to show you. You can't under estimate Mother Nature. It causes bad things to happen. No I was not being sarcastic or spiteful.

OOC: (I know not an RP but why not?) Oh I do have a suggestion, it is very true political feelings are running high. Why not just make a thread where everyone can flame and rant about political stuff all they want and just get it out of their systems. Might make things easier.

[Chairman Kaga]

OOC: (I know not an RP but why not?) Oh I do have a suggestion, it is very true political feelings are running high. Why not just make a thread where everyone can flame and rant about political stuff all they want and just get it out of their systems. Might make things easier.

Because it would involve flaming and ranting =p We tried it with the T-Dome but as you can see most people can't handle civility.

ok I lied not my last post! I bashed Bush i know that. as a matter of fact I meant to! I know your staff and I know Arcanine is staff but its still flaming and bashing!

I'm not going to tell you what the definition of flaming and bashing is because you've got it hopelessly wrong and nothing we say will change your opinion. And don't play the staff card, it doesn't work. No one can help that many of the staff enjoy debating.

[Stemps]

Well I am sixk of getting told to stop flaming Bush and the getting bashed my self!

[Bunnybutt]

Okay, you all tone it down with the flaming or I'll have to lock this thread.

[Alana]

No one can help that many of the staff enjoy debating.So do many of the members. :P We just tend to use, er, different tactics shall I say. I know the T-Dome was a failure which is a shame. If it's ever tried again there should be an age limit. (I'm probably sealing myself out but it's for the better. I hardly ever posted anyway.)

Back on the topic of hurricanes. Has anyone ever thought about a catagory six hurricane. I know it doesn't tecnacally exsist but there must be a point when a storm gets so stronge it can't be called a catagory five and be fair. I saw on Storm Stories once there was a tornado that was actually considered being called an F6. Makes me shudder thinking about what would happen if such a storm made land fall.

[Stemps]

i will stop posting in here as soon as I KNOW that there will not be bashing of me....

[Alana]

i will stop posting in here as soon as I KNOW that there will not be bashing of me....In the words of Kagome, SIT BOY! Randall your this close *holds up two fingers only a centimeter apart* from being suspended so cool it ok. Shoot now I'm Spamming up the thread. And I got cuaght up in the argument. I thought I said I wasn't going to do this. -_-

[Stemps]

fine i am gone forget all this!

[Crystal Clair]

I dont want to get in the middle of all this Bush business. After all, my parents didn't vote for him.
I feel sooo bad for the victims. If I was without electricity for two months, I wouldn't go to school and I would probably go into depression without the internet, my laptop and Clair.
btw, if you go on google maps and go to the New Orleans, you can see the before and after effect on the city. It's freaky!

[Agent9]

*ignores the arguments* ok, well um, i was just wondering if you guys saw Kanye West's speech on the news. I don't support it nor am I against it

[wishirulz]

*reads posts* Umm... *cough* Why is it that everytime somebody talks about current disasters, tch, especially uncontrollable an' unprovoked ones that it always somehow breaks out inta relligious/sexual/pollitical flaming? Tch, I won't even ask... @@

Anyways I saw tha news. Yeah, there were victims indeed, tch, but like whishirulz said, even though it was a cataclysmic force(F5s are tha most powerful tornadoes) its death toll doesn't reflect its force fully, since warnings got most ppl out of its path. Yes, tch, tha material damage will probably be tha biggest concern, tch, since, unlike ppl, properties don't move out of a tornado's path.
Other than that what can I say? Tch, it's a perfectly natural phenomenon. An F5 is indeed rare, but nevertheless still a natural phenomenon, tch, an' it will happen again at some point. Tornadoes just form, there's no way ta stop it... tch, an' as long as ppl will inhabit exposed areas,which they obviously will, since large city populations obviously have no intent of moving, there will always be a risk. Until mankind finds a way ta cope with, or block such callamities there will always be people dying.

*looks at locked threads in OC* Wow, tch, pollitical spirits are high this week... @@


that's my roumanian brother talking there!. plus the clinton/bush rasing fond rased up to 34 million dollars for the familys of the disaster and something like 12 rapers are trying on separate tours to rase money for the familys. and finaly, kanye west had some sort of good reson to say this "bush does not care about black people" (im not saying i agree im just telling the truth) he blames him because the help was a rediculesly slow. if it were tru bush jr. would have had to retire erly of his post but, bush did'nt count on something. *not flaming i swear* wen the tsunamie happened, 5 hours later the help and rescu came, one week after katrina the help (food etc...) comes and i dont know if you new but louisinana is in USA and wen the tsunamie came it was US who helped them. right next dore and 3000 miles difference im not being flamist but there's something weird about this

[Kurono]

Wow...usually disasters bring people TOGETHER, not apart. The only things we should worry about here is the people who are still suffering from the aftermath of Katrina. You people just need to realise the fact that arguing about the President and all the others doing their jobs when there are more important matters at hand...now I just wanted to say that. And it would be nice if the flaming stopped..its not helping at all..

[John Denver]

That post was so effing hard to read >_<

So we all admit that blaming Bush for this is retarded thinking...Chairman Kaga said it by FAR the best when he said "The white house doesn't have a button in it that says 'launch hurricane'" Exactly...

And Kanye West should be reprimanded. Yes what he said was his honest opinion, but do any of of you know WHEN he said it? He was at a Red Cross fund raiser trying to raise money for the victims. Him and his co-host mike myers were reading off a telepromopter, when Kanye decided to go off his own little rant. At the end of which he said, "George Bush doesn't care about Black People." C'mon, show some class dude. That's taking advantage of something that should be more sacred than just voicing your opinion that had nothing to do with what you're doing there...

phew...

[Chairman Kaga]

And even sadder was the fact that NBC or whoever aired the fundraiser didn't cut Kanye off...it was just too juicy a news tidbit, AND probably the secretly-shared opinions of NBC. I tell all of you the truth, there is no such thing as responsible and impartial journalism anymore on the part of the mdeia, and no respect, restraint, or tact on the part of celebrities. It's incredibly disheartening.

[wishirulz]

all natural disasters need to be looked at seriously (duh). but a tornado comes and goes and like does'nt do much, huricane (wow) including tyfoon and the other eye thingy. a tsunamie happenes once in 100 years. so its a wonder that we saw it. but wen a huricane flodes it's a chace like 20% out of 100. the people were hiding from the 100 miles an our winds at the low level. wen the flood started the traped, weik, hurt, old people that could'nt move to highter ground died (may they R.I.P.) this is like serious they should (note the word should put houses on highter ground, to close to water (your dead) to far (no city) and finaly to low (your drowed) so somehow they need a ground elevation.

[Arcanine]

Well I told him and he can't say anything about it.
First line in my post above "Ok Randall-Kun this is your final warning on flaming and going off topic before I give you a 1 week temp ban."
After my post I counted 5 off topic posts from Randall. So he got what he wanted.

Anyway this thread has really got way off track. Now I could say get back on topic but that didn't work when I said it before. So what I'm going to do is lock this thread. Anyone wanting to talk about Hurricane Katrina then they can start a new thread. And if a new one is started then lets try to stay away from Bush bashing or better yet, don't bash anyone. Just talk about the Hurricane and the people and all that kind of stuff. This thread was going ok before all the Bush crap, so I think it can turn into a good thread if none of this happens in the new one. So if you guys want (that I think will happen) start a new one.
*Closed*

[Kurono]

Maybe Kanye was paid to say it...people do stupid crap for money..