Reputation is off.

[Haruki Hanai]

Due to a lot of reputation abuse that can not be handled, the higher staff have all agreed on disabling the reputation system. We find that it gets abused more and more each day, by anyone.

But, the thing is, this may only be a trial. It might come back, it might not. No estimated timeframe will be given.

[GoldenHouou]

Yay! Finally... I have been hoping this to happen for a looong time. I hope it doesn´t come back. People will just start giving it out for no reason again.

[Crystal Clair]

Actually I kind of liked reputation for showing certain members that I liked their posts and stuff. I also do imformative stuff that way. I guess I should switch to the regular pms.
*hopes the trial is brief*

[Cybex Mewtwo]

Ah...this can explain a lot....I am for and against this...but I'm not a staff member so I should not conern of it. Hopefully you guys can sort this idea out. Good luck with that.

[wakachamo]

Ah, so that's why I couldn't see people's huge, gigantic lines of green blocks XD
Hope you can sort it out *thumbs up*

[Sawyer]

w00t! finally! christ, i've been waiting forever for this x3

[Dark Night]

yess! i hope it doesn't come back! my friend has been treated bad becuase somone bad repped her. good luck sorthing it out!

[The Hunk]

This is truly a well deserved relief if it stays away.

I did like rep, but it was being abused and was on its way out.

[Stemps]

I am glad! I will admit. I had bad rep because i couln't shut my mouth...i have learned to shut my mouth....And if it does come back....I am hoping it starts over with everyone at the same amount of rep...I think this is a good choice by the staff. Good Job...and Like i said if it comes back i think you should have eveyone start over at the same amount of rep.

[marillmonster2000]

I Don't Know What To Think About This Really. XD I'll Admit, I Did Like It. It Was Kinda Fun To See The Statements When You Hovered Your Mouse Over Your Rep. XD But I Guess It Was Being Abused..? o.o;

[eX.A.K.R.]

I knew right from the start when I joined this place that the system is going to be subject to abuse. I always felt that reputation is just another gauge for what somebody on deviantART called in a deviation of his'/her's: the "Big P***s Syndrome" (censored due to presence of minors). Even if you have a high level of reputation, it doesn't necessary mean that you are a member that has contributed a lot to this community; it's more or less just a show-off.

Glad to see that it's off, and I support the decision of the higher staff in doing this.

[dragon-fyre]

Reputation is gone? Yes! I got bad rep, and I dunno why. It was being abused and I hope it stays away (seems like I agree with the majority). Yay!

[ryan]

I Don't Know What To Think About This Really. XD I'll Admit, I Did Like It. It Was Kinda Fun To See The Statements When You Hovered Your Mouse Over Your Rep. XD But I Guess It Was Being Abused..? o.o;i agree with this statement. rep was fun. i liked giving people rep and getting rep always makes you at least a little bit happy (in a weird way). i dunno, i guess i'll sorta miss it, but if it means people won't be abusing PC as much, then i'm for it.

[Supreme Edgeboy Max]

Awwright!! Reps are gone. Finally, abusing stops, and members that are great but not recognized by others will have a proper chance to shine. =]

Nice one, I'm all for it.

[SBaby]

I didn't really look at the reputation anyway (that's kind of like only buying movies that Ebert and Roeper gave two thumbs up to), but it's still a good thing it's off. Reputations can lead alot of people astray as to who'se posts to read and who'se to ignore. Especially since it was so easy to abuse (people bad repped others because they didn't agree with something the person said).

That happened to me, and the person didn't even have the common courtesy to identify themself or give a reason for it. I think it should stay off for awhile to give people a chance to get a 'real' reputation, based on what others think about them, and not on a button that one or two people clicked.

[Greed]

Ha. I don't know whether to be with or against this.

You should see my rep tho, people almost always bad repped me saying stuff like "heh aleck" or "why do you like guys???"

so I dunno. I honestly found it funny <3

[Stemps]

I would lke to know who thinks if rep comes back everyone should start over?

[Supreme Edgeboy Max]

I didn't really look at the reputation anyway (that's kind of like only buying movies that Ebert and Roeper gave two thumbs up to), but it's still a good thing it's off. Reputations can lead alot of people astray as to who'se posts to read and who'se to ignore. Especially since it was so easy to abuse (people bad repped others because they didn't agree with something the person said).

That happened to me, and the person didn't even have the common courtesy to identify themself or give a reason for it. I think it should stay off for awhile to give people a chance to get a 'real' reputation, based on what others think about them, and not on a button that one or two people clicked.

Just the point I'm trying to say and prove. Reps make other people look bad in a way.

And Greed, looks like some guys've been discriminating ... in a way o_o;

[Alter Ego]

Meh, I'm probably placing myself in the minority by saying that I actually liked the reputation system. It wasn't as much the green blocks that I liked about it as the comments from the reppers. They kind of told me what people did and didn't like about me, you know? But I can't speak for the others on this thread and I'm not a staff member so I probably don't have a full view of the situation.

[Rhykasho]

ahhh, this will certainly stop people asking for rep and stuff

[Minako]

Like others have said, I'm one of those who enjoyed the rep system; it was a bit fun and all. I'll miss it, but as long as this takes care of the abusing problem, then I'm for it. I'll just have to deal without it. xP

[Smarties-chan]

Meh, I'm probably placing myself in the minority by saying that I actually liked the reputation system. It wasn't as much the green blocks that I liked about it as the comments from the reppers. They kind of told me what people did and didn't like about me, you know?
I agree it felt good to get a positive comment and the bad comments tell you if you've done something bad so you won't make the same mistake again.

[Dragon Lover]

Thank you! It is DEFINATELY abused. The staff here is smart...

~DL~

[Charizard_Fire_God]

For those of you who read the Unknown Reputation thread in CQ&F, you will know what I'm talking about.

I am the one who caused the bubble to burst. Please feel free to take away my privileges, warn me, or even ban me if I have indeed caused so much trouble around here. But please don't take away the entire forum's rep just because of me. I heart PC and CANNOT stand knowing that the entire forum has been made a duller place just because of me. I am deeply sorry... just make it possible for every member to see who has repped them to avoid such incidents in the future... but, please... I cannot stand knowing I've caused this forum so much harm... mae it possible for people to completly disable recieving rep from others, if that would help too... but don't do all of this just because someone as reckless as me blew it all...

I've never bad repped anyone, and always returned good rep when I was badly repped... I was just trying to put an end to all the bad rep flaming and raise spirits around here... please forgive me... and if you don't, then please don't take it out on the entire forum, just because of me... T_T

[Mario The World Champion]

Well, I knew that it was only a matter of time before the rep system is gone from here.

I'm kind of torn over this because I like having the rep system, but I'm not a big fan of idiots abusing it and having the problem come down to this.

I guarantee we will NEVER have the Rep system back here EVER again.

[Charizard_Fire_God]

Well, I knew that it was only a matter of time before the rep system is gone from here.

I'm kind of torn over this because I like having the rep system, but I'm not a big fan of idiots abusing it and having the problem come down to this.

I guarantee we will NEVER have the Rep system back here EVER again.
Oookay then... tch, now that it's such a sure thing, I feel... "furfilled"...

I think I might actually leave PC by myself, knowing that tha damage I've done is irreversible... but even then, I won't get over it. -_-

[Kira]

I'm both for and against it, the good thing is that it can't be abused, but there are other ways O.O Yeah, and the bad thing is that you can't really show somebody that you liked his/her post etc. etc.

[DarkPegasus]

How come I am only seeing people without/with bad rep, bashing rep? And weren't always the staff like:

Ah rep doesn't mather anyways... And now you turn it off?

Oh... Yea I am for rep! XD

[Greta]

Reputation is gone? Omg I didn't even notich this! I will agree that it was fun and stuff, but since it was being abused I think it was for the best to shut it down. I don't mind, even though I kinda liked it, but the admins are the ones who will decide so I'm ok with this.

[FoxHound!]

Rep's over rated anyway IMO, who cares that it's gone?

though I will miss it

[DarkPegasus]

What? I was abused several times... (with bad rep) And I am still for it! (and I just got my first 10k)

[serpenter]

i liked the rep, too bad its gone, but if the higher staff feel its nececery then so be it

[Virtual Headache]

Yay! I was waiting for this.
I really got pissed by members bad repping for staing my opinion and also for mods bad repping me back, whenever I disagreed with their posts (AKA gave them bad rep).

[Locke Yggdrasill]

I really only got bad repped once, the day I joined, and had no idea how the heck to apply an IPS to a rom. but, I got good repped. But, I suppose your judgement is wise, Tetsuya-san.

[Digital Mage]

I will kinda miss rep because I was looking forward to getting a big one XD. But I had no idea of the abuse the system was getting.

[Locke Yggdrasill]

Basically anywhere where the forum is large and Reputaton is activated, there is abuse.

[Zaikiro]

Wow :o

This does not surprise me at all. Mabye it will stop now.

Something tells me that more than half of PC are happy about this.

[skie]

YAYS!!! No more Rep! *does cute little dance!*

[John Denver]

Due to a lot of reputation abuse that can not be handled, the higher staff have all agreed on disabling the reputation system. We find that it gets abused more and more each day, by anyone.

But, the thing is, this may only be a trial. It might come back, it might not. No estimated timeframe will be given.

Correction...the majority of us agreed on it...we didn't all agree on it...

But, I suppose your judgement is wise, Tetsuya-san.

Tee hee, wow...>_O;;

[Karasuma]

This is better cause some people bad reped me just cause they hate my username

One example is Tsukasa.

[Suki]

yeh these 2 mods kept bad repping me
im not mentioning any names :cheeky:

[Karasuma]

yeh these 2 mods kept bad repping me
im not mentioning any names :cheeky:

I would mention one but they would ban me. Not fair, mods are suppose to be good people not Jack*****

[Kurosaki]

Correction...the majority of us agreed on it...we didn't all agree on it...



Tee hee, wow...>_O;;
D, refrain from doing that. It is a form of bashing, minor, but still a form >>

[Shiney]

I'm only going to make one statement here. Removing, or leaving, or modifying the reputation system will have no real effect on the goings on of PC. I understand that some might not be able to see the reason in this, but it's what I percieve to be fact. I don't care either way, but I'm just mystified as to why the staff devoted the effort neccisary to do something that had no effect on the forums.

[Batesymon]

Same thing happened on SPPF. Chances are the "trial" may not turn out great. Same happened there too...

[The Dash]

Personally I liked rep... But I think that every peice of rep should have to be approved my a Staff/Mod/Admin... That SHOULD stop it...

[Chibi-chan]

Rep abuse? Everyone will get it eventually! Like everyone gets spam and annoying idiot n00bs. It's just something that happens! I know I speak for many people when they say that they are proud of thier rep and many love the comments others make when they rep them. And I'm sure that normal rep> rep abuse. I just dont get it! :\ It's upsetting to me put w/e....staff knows best I guess o_o

[mewthree9000]

Well it's too bad.. I'm really dissapointed.. I'm leaving PC... and I'm not coming back until the reps are back. I dont care about your comments nor do I have to explain myself. I'll be back when the reputation system is back. Bye.

[Chibi-chan]

Meh...I hope the admin knows some ARE going to leave.....

no one ever LEFT when they got abused rep....

[MegaFuz]

This is disappointing to me. I thought the system was pretty cool. I thought it did a great job informing Noobs of rules being broken. A simple post informing Noobs of what they've done wrong won't do the same job because they will probably just ignore it. Also, I'm a custom spriter and it was always nice seeing some good rep after I spent hours working on a new project. Sure, rep abuse happens to everyone. NOTHING...absolutely nothing is perfect. There will always be stupid immature members out there to screw things up. For the most part though, I liked the system. And I would have to say that people that seemed to have high rep deserved it, and people that had bad rep deserved it :\

[Otter Mii-kun]

I'm really glad this "useless" feature has been turned off. I really had no reason to use it in the first place. It seems like people with similar amount of posts have entirely different rep points.
Are all the rep points deleted along with the shutoff? I really hope the system never returns. I ended up getting bad rep several times and decided to turn it off in my User CP.
I didn't notice the systemwide enforcement until now.

ottermi619,
Hopefully those trolls won't be so trolly now that it's gone.

[Chibi-chan]

Yeah....it was nice to know that you can make someone feel good for something that they did. It also made you feel good if someone thinks you did something nice. Rep kinda showed how people think of you. If they didn't like that, of course they can disable it. But then again, you can PM them, but that would just lead to PM clogging....and how could you inform someone on something that offened you or something without being openly flamming? What if you dont want that person to know who you are? W/o rep, I think that there will be a flame problem later on....but thats IMO...

P.S If you didnt like rep...disable it....

[Pincushion]

*huggles rep*

Poor rep, where will it live now.. :(

:nervous:

I hope this does some good, although I miss having the blocks..They where pretty.

[Kurosaki]

Rep is gone, and that's that. Stop moaning, would ya? Don't you think we discussed the positive and negative points first? If you think we didn't, think again. And if a member is gonna be immature enough to leave over rep, I honestly could care less. >>

[MegaFuz]

It's also disappointing to see that some "High Staff" didn't agree with the decision. I just hope that there was no strong-arming in this matter, and that the staff did indeed agree on this...

And if a member is gonna be immature enough to leave over rep, I honestly could care less.

Good to see mods care about their members so much ^^ :\

[Ryoutarou]

Rep lost it's true purpose long ago, you say that it helped the n00bs learn when they made mistakes, right? Well two things wrong with that, one, no one ever uses it the way it should be used really...and two, a n00b wouldn't care to look at their CP really. And they wouldn't know what they did wrong no matter how much you explain it to them. If you're a spirter, read the thread then. If people have enough time to reply to a thread with rep, then they have enough to reply to the thread with a post. That way everyone can see, not just you.

And we're not really doing this just because of the reputation abuse. Look how many unneeded threads are made in Q&F over rep, look how many members think that someone with a higher amount of rep has more say in things. Most people with higher rep got it from their friends or at random, don't fool yourselves into thinking that you earned it. In blunt truth very few people still give out rep the way it should be given. The last maybe...ten rep points that I got weren't for posts that really needed it. It was nice and all, but did I earn it? No, not at all, people just give it out at random for their friends most of the time.

If you want to leave over rep, then leave, but it shouldn't be what keeps you coming back to PC. You're here for the fun of it, for posting and making friends, not to watch a little green bar grow each and every day. Rep showed what your friends thought of you most of the time. I can't really remember the last time I got a rep that was really earned, most rep is just given for the Hell of it.

Of course you can just tell someone to disable it, so what? You still get the nasty little comments. It may not show up, but the comments still get through, and if you're ever to turn it back up, that negative rep will show up.

[Chairman Kaga]

At least let people complain without biting their heads off for opposing the decision, David o_O;

[Bayleef]

I don't really care either way, I never even recieved any rep yet. Also, IMO, it just showed popularity. The more known you were, the more rep you had. I bet few people actually recieved reputation for a notable post, but correct me if I'm wrong.

[Sorairo]

well i hope its soon...REP helps me find my friends like the red ppl are NOT good ppl and the green ARE good ppl...I just always thought REP was a good thing. and if you have bad rep just TURN IT OFF is that really all that hard to do?

[Kurosaki]

At least let people complain without biting their heads off for opposing the decision, David o_O;
It'd be easier if they didn't act like PC revolved around the rep system. What I meant to say is 'you can complain all you want but rep will never go back to the same system' XD

[Ryoutarou]

well i hope its soon...REP helps me find my friends like the red ppl are NOT good ppl and the green ARE good ppl...I just always thought REP was a good thing. and if you have bad rep just TURN IT OFF is that really all that hard to do?So, you mean to tell me that depending on how you rep a person you're either a good or bad person youself? Nice to know... And like I said before in my last post, all that turning rep off does is make it so that the public can't see.

[Chairman Kaga]

Ok David =p

I'm not willing to accept that it's gone permanently, though; I think the mods should at least get together to weigh options for a stricter rep system before we completely bury it...there are a lot of members who weren't exactly responsible but liked the rep system and were, for all intents and purposes, innocent of any true wrongdoing =D For all the problems with it I still saw its main purpose as a morale booster rather than a serious means of ranking one's goodness and nobility among his peers.

*big essay coming later*

[AcCiDeNT]

It's stupid to turn off rep, if people abuse it, who cares? it happens, alot of people aren't happy about this, and I think you guys should reconsider... I don't think it was a smart move on your part to take rep away... I mean, the people that weren't abusing it are getting punished for something that they didn't do, so screw you guys, I'm leaving o.O

[Otter Mii-kun]

I think it'd be best not to bring it back. The trolls on here will more than likely abuse it again.

[AcCiDeNT]

Who cares? that's not our fault... if someone abuses it, who really cares? No one, but it's not right just to take it away..

[Chibi-chan]

This may be from a bias POV but just my opinion...

I'm sure that if the members had a say in this and not only the mods, there would definately be an opposition to the rep descision.
There were many useless CQ&F thread, but who ever really told them to stop? The no closing in CQ&F (which I read) doesn't help much, it just makes it so people cant tell what they posted wasn't wrong because it wasn't locked.

Just my opinion if you care. If you don't w/e....

[AcCiDeNT]

Yeah, PC is going downhill o.O; so I think by this decision they'll lose some members, so forget PC, they can do what they want it's their forum, but I'm leaving...*goes on strike*

[Pincushion]

It's stupid to turn off rep, if people abuse it, who cares? it happens, alot of people aren't happy about this, and I think you guys should reconsider... I don't think it was a smart move on your part to take rep away... I mean, the people that weren't abusing it are getting punished for something that they didn't do, so screw you guys, I'm leaving o.O


By saying that, you're also saying that having rep is completely pointless, there for having little green/red boxes under your name that you've been given for know reason is...completely pointless..so then it doesnt matter if its turned off now does it...

[Kurosaki]

This may be from a bias POV but just my opinion...

I'm sure that if the members had a say in this and not only the mods, there would definately be an opposition to the rep descision.
There were many useless CQ&F thread, but who ever really told them to stop? The no closing in CQ&F (which I read) doesn't help much, it just makes it so people cant tell what they posted wasn't wrong because it wasn't locked.

Just my opinion if you care. If you don't w/e....
The rule in CQ&F rule doesn't apply to EVERY thread in there. We're just trying to keep closings to a minimal.

[Otter Mii-kun]

Who cares? that's not our fault... if someone abuses it, who really cares? No one, but it's not right just to take it away..
Ever heard of "the people's best interest"? The admins did it because they felt it was in the user's best interest. I normally wouldn't defend the staff on the restrictive decisions they make, but in this case, it's in my best interest.

ottermi619,
Sometimes people (not me) have a blurred understanding on what's best for the public.

[Chibi-chan]

I know it doesnt account to every single one, but there is a trainer card thread in there that has been given links and all...it should be closed and so should some others I think.

Also, I'm just saying why not let the users tell you what they see as thier intrest? Rep isn't a HUGE issue as some other things in PC...why not a small idea poll for the small things PC might do to change? Just a suggestion...admins are admins for a reason. I know that.

[AcCiDeNT]

Dude, best intrest? No one cares if they get bad rep, people get bad rep for a reason, I think it's because the Mods and staff were getting bad reps and they got pissed... Alot of people worked hard to get reps, now it's just completely gone... the public? it's a forum... there is no public, it's people sitting their asses on computers looking and posting on a forum, I could be doing a whole bunch of other crap... But I don't, O.o; taking away rep just shows how powerless the staff at PC is over all of the members that sit their asses on their chairs and support this community, so I think what the members want, they should give back...

[Ryoutarou]

Dude, best intrest? No one cares if they get bad rep, people get bad rep for a reason, I think it's because the Mods and staff were getting bad reps and they got pissed... Alot of people worked hard to get reps, now it's just completely gone... the public? it's a forum... there is no public, it's people sitting their asses on computers looking and posting on a forum, I could be doing a whole bunch of other crap... But I don't, O.o; taking away rep just shows how powerless the staff at PC is over all of the members that sit their asses on their chairs and support this community, so I think what the members want, they should give back...
He (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=44348&highlight=reputation) cared, he (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=47244&highlight=reputation) cared, she (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=49988) cared. If we wanted to we could just as easy delete the rep we got, and most people don't earn their rep, most people don't give out rep the way it should be given out. And no, we aren't powerless as you put it, we took the rep away because too many people misused it and thought differently of members with high rep because of it. We are doing what we think is best for the community. Just because you don't care about rep abuse doesn't mean that others don't.

[Chairman Kaga]

Well, Accident, your opinion is automatically invalidated for playing the "blame teh mods!!1 lolz" card. I might not be 100% on board with the decision, but at least I know that the uppers probably had a long debate about this...I'm sure there are hurt feelings on both sides, but this is just the beginning of the experiment, there are a lot of things to work out. We'll just have to see.

The people who are upset the most are those who weren't here the day Kairi got her shiny, new second rep block and everyone went into panic mode...that's how it all began...

[Box]

Dear lord. This is... wait for it...

AWESOME.

I hereby take back anything negative I've ever said about you guys. This is so respect-worthy.

Also I lol at the people in this thread. You're just making it harder for yourselves, fighting a losing battle. I tried myself to remind everyone, as a mod and a normal member, that rep abuse was wrong, as did others, but who listened? Exactly.

gj higher staff. <3

Edit: Posted on the wrong account, but whatever. You know who this is.

[Gilgαmesh]

If Pc members want to leave they can leave. But this rep system has been abused over and over again. Rep abuse was used countless times.If the higher staff want the rep system to be gone then so be it. It was their decision after all that members cannot use rep what it was really meant to be for.

You see, everything Jorge said was right. The rep system is disabled whethere members liked it or not. Like Jorge said, Pc is a place where you post and male friends, not watch a little green square multiply as you get good rep. So members should just deal with it.

The staff thinks the the rep system is being abused. It is. Countless people at PC use rep wrong. Some of them even made ''rep spam''. This is very true, since most of the staff recived news on rep abuse. It's not there fault if the disabled the rep system and its never coming back.

To tell you the truth, I recived countless reputation before. People were probably abusing rep and so and so. But the staff agreed that the rep system should be gone.
So you members should just deal with it. Pc does not revolve aroung the rep system. I think the rep system was a privlidge. But the staff took it away because half of the members at PC were just ''rep spamming'' and such.

It was the staff's decision. So you people should just deal with it. I know most people like rep and miss it and whatnot, but the rep system is gone. If PC members want to leave then they can leave.

People should just deal with it ok?

[Chibi-chan]

He (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=44348&highlight=reputation) cared, he (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=47244&highlight=reputation) cared, she (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=49988) cared. If we wanted to we could just as easy delete the rep we got, and most people don't earn their rep, most people don't give out rep the way it should be given out. And no, we aren't powerless as you put it, we took the rep away because too many people misused it and thought differently of members with high rep because of it. We are doing what we think is best for the community. Just because you don't care about rep abuse doesn't mean that others don't.
Do those members really equal those who dont care? No one's ever put up a positive rep board. Just negative stuff. 2/3 barely got around PC enough to get better rep and make themselves known as a good person. The last one eventually changed her opinion, but the thread made the repper feel bad about themself. I'm suggesting that you make a poll for members to see if the like the new rep or not. But then again, all we can do is say what we have to oppose it.

[Stemps]

Rep lost it's true purpose long ago, you say that it helped the n00bs learn when they made mistakes, right? Well two things wrong with that, one, no one ever uses it the way it should be used really...and two, a n00b wouldn't care to look at their CP really. And they wouldn't know what they did wrong no matter how much you explain it to them. If you're a spirter, read the thread then. If people have enough time to reply to a thread with rep, then they have enough to reply to the thread with a post. That way everyone can see, not just you.

And we're not really doing this just because of the reputation abuse. Look how many unneeded threads are made in Q&F over rep, look how many members think that someone with a higher amount of rep has more say in things. Most people with higher rep got it from their friends or at random, don't fool yourselves into thinking that you earned it. In blunt truth very few people still give out rep the way it should be given. The last maybe...ten rep points that I got weren't for posts that really needed it. It was nice and all, but did I earn it? No, not at all, people just give it out at random for their friends most of the time.

If you want to leave over rep, then leave, but it shouldn't be what keeps you coming back to PC. You're here for the fun of it, for posting and making friends, not to watch a little green bar grow each and every day. Rep showed what your friends thought of you most of the time. I can't really remember the last time I got a rep that was really earned, most rep is just given for the Hell of it.

Of course you can just tell someone to disable it, so what? You still get the nasty little comments. It may not show up, but the comments still get through, and if you're ever to turn it back up, that negative rep will show up.


I totally agree. People know that they get good rep for their friends and thats why they want it on so they can show off with who's rep is better. It is the whole point for people to join her then LEAVE! Shut up and stop whining about it....Its done and gone so SHUT UP!

[pokejungle]

I liked rep.

And really, consider this:

Rep abusers were 80% n00bs. n00bs don't have much rep, therefore it doesn't affect us much. And now we're going bonkers because something doesn't affect us much.


"WhO cArEs AbOuT sTuPiD rEp??!?!?!?!" is very arrogant and childish. Everyone has their own opinions. Respect them.

[Gilgαmesh]

Do those members really equal those who dont care? No one's ever put up a positive rep board. Just negative stuff. 2/3 barely got around PC enough to get better rep and make themselves known as a good person. The last one eventually changed her opinion, but the thread made the repper feel bad about themself. I'm suggesting that you make a poll for members to see if the like the new rep or not. But then again, all we can do is say what we have to oppose it.

Like me and Jorge said, PC is a place where people can post and make friends. It's not a place where you can watch a green block multiply itself endlessly.

You see Chibi, even with a poll it wont make much of a difference.

[Ryoutarou]

Do those members really equal those who dont care? No one's ever put up a positive rep board. Just negative stuff. 2/3 barely got around PC enough to get better rep and make themselves known as a good person. The last one eventually changed her opinion, but the thread made the repper feel bad about themself. I'm suggesting that you make a poll for members to see if the like the new rep or not. But then again, all we can do is say what we have to oppose it.
Those 2/3 posted where they wanted to on PC, not to where they could be well known. If you can show a good reason, we'll think about it. Not because you think it's fun, not because you like it, but a good reason, then we might think about it. Really, all you've said is that because it's only a small group of people that it shouldn't they shouldn't be heard, and it isn't a small group of people. It's a growing problem that took too long to deal with, but it finally got dealt with.

[Spectrum]

I liked rep.

And really, consider this:

Rep abusers were 80% n00bs. n00bs don't have much rep, therefore it doesn't affect us much. And now we're going bonkers because something doesn't affect us much.


"WhO cArEs AbOuT sTuPiD rEp??!?!?!?!" is very arrogant and childish. Everyone has their own opinions. Respect them.
Also consider this:

75% of statistics are wrong.

And such is definately the case here. Many "popular", well-respected members of PC abuse rep all the time. And if anything, they take up the 80% of people who abuse rep, maybe even more. Please, if you have no idea what you're discussing, butt out.

[Gilgαmesh]

People should just deal with it. Rep is 1st grade/2nd grade stuff. I mean people, do you really want a green block to show how good you are?

Rep is like a report card or interim report. It is time to end this whining because it is getting you nowhere. >>

[Chibi-chan]

All I'm doing is showing my opinion, you can agree, or you can disagree... no need to flame me for it x.x

BTW: So are you saying that the smaller groups matter more than the big groups? I'll put a good reason when I have time to word it properly...XP

[Chairman Kaga]

Just do me a favor and nobody close this yet, ok? I want to (and I'm sure there are others who want to) write a lengthy article but I don't have the time right now...I think we should all be able to calmly talk this over as long as we want to; it's one of the more delicate issues PC has faced in a while...

[pokejungle]

I'm. Not. Whining.

Did you read my post?

[Gilgαmesh]

All I'm doing is showing my opinion, you can agree, or you can disagree... no need to flame me for it x.x

BTW: So are you saying that the smaller groups matter more than the big groups? I'll put a good reason when I have time to word it properly...XP

I was't flaming you. I was telling my opinion too. The magority of PC doesn't like rep and likes rep. What the staff members were trying to say is that, since so much rep abuse is going on, they need to disable it. So I wasn't flaming you. >>

Katsuro, I was experssing my opinion. If I want to be a Jorge-suck up then I can. I dont care.

Right now I am a member. All you're doing is flaming members because of their opinion.

[Chibi-chan]

Ya...I need to get my thoughts into order also....I have a lot more to say but I need to collect my thoughts

[ryan]

i'm suprised that it meant so much to some people. accident, your declaration that you're leaving is pretty much bull. loads of people get upset beyond reason at something staff does, claim that they're so infuriated that they can't stay at PC, yet keep posting because they aren't mature enough to walk away from the "conflict." i know, i was one of these people once upon a time...
i know i posted on this topic earlier, but something came to mind. it's a bit weird that we set up a new rep system, and then take it down in like two weeks... that seems a bit strange to me... but whatev... i think it may be better this way. i don't use rep on my message board either, and it functions quite well.

[AcCiDeNT]

Dudes, it's all the mods fault, I think we should have a poll for ALL members to see how it goes... so until then, I'm leaving... B1tch35, you're all n00bz0rz

[Stemps]

I wanted to see what was the % of people who want the rep dont want the rep and dont care so take this link to vote!
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=50235

[Ryoutarou]

All I'm doing is showing my opinion, you can agree, or you can disagree... no need to flame me for it x.x

BTW: So are you saying that the smaller groups matter more than the big groups? I'll put a good reason when I have time to word it properly...XPNo that's not what I'm saying, I just don't think that something that grew so much over the last year so much is something that shouldn't be looked at. I know three people, three people that gave out good rep when it should be given out. That's not much when you look at everyone that had super huge green bars.

And to note, the mods didn't make the choice in this one. Yes people, there are staff members aside from the mods. And we've been talking about this for a LONG time before today.

[AcCiDeNT]

Staff gets all the say in everything... screw the staff, the staff aren't the only people here... There are thousands...punish everyone why doncha?

[Chairman Kaga]

Okay, I take this back, I think the thread should be locked, you're all far too immature for your own good.

There is a LOT of unnecessary haughtiness going on right now; stop cramming your opinion down everyone else's throat and stop beating everyone over the head with your supposed superiority of opinion.

The hard truth is NOBODY IS RIGHT IN THIS DEBATE. So stop it. Seriously.

[Spectrum]

Staff gets all the say in everything... screw the staff, the staff aren't the only people here... There are thousands...punish everyone why doncha?
Haha. I believed in that many months ago. Then I was demoted, and banned. What did I think about while I was banned? How I wasted all that time complaining when I was the one doing the most damage.

They're not screwing anything up. You people abused your privileges, and therefore lost them. Simple math, really.

And as a matter of fact, rep IS abuse. 'Nuff said.

[Ryoutarou]

Staff gets all the say in everything... screw the staff, the staff aren't the only people here... There are thousands...punish everyone why doncha?Screw the staff? Okay, screw the people who make sure the board is clean, screw the people who take care of spammers. Screw the people that give their free time and get nothing back in return. You're boarder line flaming, so watch it.

[pokejungle]

Heh. Ryan, I'd leave if I weren't so involved with the election.

And it's not just about the rep. There's more than one reason PC is reverting to the 1337 stage.

[AcCiDeNT]

uh dude, opinions matter, maybe you don't think so, but I think so... So I think this thread should stay open and let people debate... Watch what? haha I don't care about you staff o.O; it's not hard to keep the board clean with 100 mods...

[ryan]

i'm right (but not about the rep stuff). i predicted that accident wouldn't be able to walk away, and that he'd need to have the last word. please, grow up. you've made harsh accusations, called people some nasty stuff, and broken a few rules... i'd say you're the "n00bz0rz"

[Spectrum]

Okay, I take this back, I think the thread should be locked, you're all far too immature for your own good.

There is a LOT of unnecessary haughtiness going on right now; stop cramming your opinion down everyone else's throat and stop beating everyone over the head with your supposed superiority of opinion.

The hard truth is NOBODY IS RIGHT IN THIS DEBATE. So stop it. Seriously.
Since you referred to everybody, I must disagree. I'm not forcing my opinion down anybody's throats, so to speak, but rather providing facts based on my own experience. ^_^; Sorry if it came across that way.

[Kurosaki]

Staff gets all the say in everything... screw the staff, the staff aren't the only people here... There are thousands...punish everyone why doncha?
Staff run the forum, staff are staff for a reason. If you have a problem with it, keep it to yourself. Consder this a warning for indirect/ flaming.

[Ryoutarou]

uh dude, opinions matter, maybe you don't think so, but I think so... So I think this thread should stay open and let people debate... Watch what? haha I don't care about you staff o.O; it's not hard to keep the board clean with 100 mods...There's an opinion where you respect the other person, and then there's just being rude, which is what you're doing. And we have no where near 100 mods, go back and count them on that list.

[Chibi-chan]

Ugh, I wonder how much bad rep I would've got from just putting my posts on this thread. REALLY

Seems like this idea just jumped on us Jorge. You all may have been thinking about it, but most are totally surprised. You know three people, but maybe other people know more? But then again, the basis of 'good rep' could be anyones opinion

I HOPE you understand I'm just stating my opinion. I've really got nothing against you all ._.

[AcCiDeNT]

I am, and I don't care... O.o, the staff need to know that they're not the only ones involved in PC as they think they are...

[Spectrum]

Heh. Ryan, I'd leave if I weren't so involved with the election.

And it's not just about the rep. There's more than one reason PC is reverting to the 1337 stage.
Ever heard of the saying, 'Put up or shut up'? You're getting really annoying here, straggling about like you own PC. But you don't. And you think they'll bring rep back because one member left, one of which, might I add, frequently abused their privileges with that system? Haha. No. Now THAT would make everyone leave.

[Akio123]

Here is what I have to say about the rep system being turned off. I truly don't know why anyone cares. They are little green and red boxes. When people judge people on reputation, it is not fair. It may be rep abuse or not know what they are doning. Some people who have huge amounts of reps are not that nice. It doesn't matter if they have red boxes or green boxes.

[AcCiDeNT]

I never said I owned PC... but it makes you feel good when you do something good and get rep for it...

[Ryoutarou]

I am, and I don't care... O.o, the staff need to know that they're not the only ones involved in PC as they think they are...
Okay, tell me what the members do? We give you guys a place to post and a place to have fun and spend your free time. Otherwise, we do run this place, no matter how you look at it, the staff does run PC and we've all been here for years, so we know what we're doing.

Chibi, this is why we (the staff) talk about things outside of member view. We talked about all the good and bad that could have come from this, and we talked about it for a long time.

[Chibi-chan]

Ever heard of the saying, 'Put up or shut up'? You're getting really annoying here, straggling about like you own PC. But you don't. And you think they'll bring rep back because one member left, one of which, might I add, frequently abused their privileges with that system? Haha. No. Now THAT would make everyone leave.
Ty? like you said before about YOUR opinion, this is HIS opinion! Say it over PM....I don't exactly like people openly dissing like that. Paul doesnt act like he owns PC and hes NOT telling people what to think!

[AcCiDeNT]

Dude wow, you give time, haha that's nothing... it's your choice, it don't mean you should get all the power, now does it?

[Chairman Kaga]

Since you referred to everybody, I must disagree. I'm not forcing my opinion down anybody's throats, so to speak, but rather providing facts based on my own experience. ^_^; Sorry if it came across that way.

And I WAS referring to everyone, I don't like how ugly this is getting =D So few people are saying anything coherent right now...

[Ryoutarou]

Dude wow, you give time, haha that's nothing... it's your choice, it don't mean you should get all the power, now does it?
You really have no idea how hard running a place as big as PC is do you? You're more or less saying "screw the staff", well there are rules here for the good of every member, and you're starting to break a few.

[AcCiDeNT]

I'm not shoving opinions down anyones throat o.O; I can speak for many people, we want rep o.O, don't you think PC staff are kinda be asses about it? Just because they want it gone it's gone, if someone abuses it, who is it hurting? what is it hurting? why take away all rep? OMG NO I BROKE A RULE??!?!?!?!?! I'M SO SCARED!

[ryan]

Ever heard of the saying, 'Put up or shut up'? You're getting really annoying here, straggling about like you own PC. But you don't. And you think they'll bring rep back because one member left, one of which, might I add, frequently abused their privileges with that system? Haha. No. Now THAT would make everyone leave.dude, chill. that's not a way to talk to a fellow candidate. and it's not like that member has even left yet. he keeps trying to get the last word... it's annoying.
(edit... i assumed that your post was directed at paul, if it was directed at the whiner, i take back what i said)

[Chibi-chan]

I'm not disrespecting the staff! You all do do stuff, I'm not saying you sit and do nothing! I stated awhile back that you all are staff for a reason. I DO understand how hard it is to run PC, I'm just saying that it is hard for most members to adapt to a sudden change when the admin have thought over it for a long time....thats all

[Ryoutarou]

I'm not shoving opinions down anyones throat o.O; I can speak for many people, we want rep o.O, don't you think PC staff are kinda be asses about it? Just because they want it gone it's gone, if someone abuses it, who is it hurting? what is it hurting? why take away all rep?Here's the thing, you don't speak for everyone, you speak for yourself. This is one thread where a few people have posted, not every member of PC. And like I said, it's not just because we want it gone, it's because it was hurting members. We did talk about this for a long time, we talked about everything about this, and yes, we knew this would be the aftermath from members, but as it stands, rep isn't going to come back. BTW, watch you can and will be banned if you don't keep in line. Voice your opinion in a respectfull manner, but break too many rules and we will have to deal with you.

[AcCiDeNT]

I can get the last word if I want o.O... HOW THE HELL WAS IT HURTING MEMBERS? EXPLAIN?

[Kurosaki]

I'm not shoving opinions down anyones throat o.O; I can speak for many people, we want rep o.O, don't you think PC staff are kinda be asses about it? Just because they want it gone it's gone, if someone abuses it, who is it hurting? what is it hurting? why take away all rep? OMG NO I BROKE A RULE??!?!?!?!?! I'M SO SCARED!
Wow, now you're acting immature. That really makes us take what you say seriously. -.-

Anyways, this thread is getting us nowhere. Bottom line is though, rep is gone right now, and no matter how much you whine it wont change right now.

[AcCiDeNT]

someone please explain how it was hurting members... o.O

[Ryoutarou]

I can get the last word if I want o.O... HOW THE HELL WAS IT HURTING MEMBERS? EXPLAIN?Threads like the ones I linked to and that you probably didn't read. Those are three out of the countless amount of threads on rep abuse.

[Chairman Kaga]

Well, this argument is going to amount to nothing in the end, so I'm through with it =/ I recommend you all follow suit and try to at least have a moment's peace here...

[Spectrum]

I'm tired of this thread. The higher staff have been here for a long time, done their job right, and earned promotions out of it. They were given the power to make these decisions. So when they use their power to stop the members abusing the system, it's wrong? Yeah, I thought so too.

dude, chill. that's not a way to talk to a fellow candidate. and it's not like that member has even left yet. he keeps trying to get the last word... it's annoying.
(edit... i assumed that your post was directed at paul, if it was directed at the whiner, i take back what i said)
It was directed at Paul, yes. And the elections are but a minority, they shouldn't affect the way we communicate with one another. Plus he was threatening to leave, if you read.

[Chibi-chan]

Here's the thing, you don't speak for everyone, you speak for yourself. This is one thread where a few people have posted, not every member of PC. And like I said, it's not just because we want it gone, it's because it was hurting members. We did talk about this for a long time, we talked about everything about this, and yes, we knew this would be the aftermath from members, but as it stands, rep isn't going to come back. BTW, watch you can and will be banned if you don't keep in line. Voice your opinion in a respectfull manner, but break too many rules and we will have to deal with you.


._. so now how exactly are we supposed to show if we disaprove or approve of another's posts? Say it on the thread? That would be flamming right? If we said it over PM, that could become lots of PM clogging. I thought rep was good...IMO....

IM NOT TRYING TO DISS ADMIN! Sheesh people! Just expressing my opinion to them doesnt mean I hate them! >_<

[AcCiDeNT]

It didn't actually "hurt" anyone, people may have gotten mad because a n00b of some sort gave them bad rep, go cry about it... <.<

[Ryoutarou]

It didn't actually "hurt" anyone, people may have gotten mad because a n00b of some sort gave them bad rep, go cry about it... <.<Okay, here's the thing, you're opinions are not the same as everyone's so stop thinking that they are.

Chibi, you make a thread, or post here and post good reasons. How it can make PC a better place, how rep abuse can be kept down (because we can't look at EVERY rep that goes through) and not because you want it back yourself, or because you think it's fun. The truth is, I want rep back, I like rep, but will it help PC in the long run? Hell no.

[Spectrum]

._. so now how exactly are we supposed to show if we disaprove or approve of another's posts? Say it on the thread? That would be flamming right? If we said it over PM, that could become lots of PM clogging. I thought rep was good...IMO....

IM NOT TRYING TO DISS ADMIN! Sheesh people! Just expressing my opinion to them doesnt mean I hate them! >_<
You aren't. If you approve of a post, good for you. If you disapprove of a post, good for you. If you find a post that breaks the rules, report it. Simple.

Replying wouldn't be any moreso 'flaming' than giving a rep, unless of course the rep you gave had no comment, which is, in all retrospects, rep abuse. See what I mean?

[AcCiDeNT]

I know people that feel the same way, look at mewthree... He feels the same way, I'll speak for me and him then... Mihara what did you do to become mod or whatever the hell you are? You were very active and posted alot and the recognized you! omg, that's not that hard to be active... I know many people better suited... Look at scizz, Jeremy, Mau Reese...

[Eliana]

Hm...
Mixed thoughts concerning this.
1) I agree, rep was indeed abused far too much, and I have witnessed this so many times over the past year.
2) But there were a few times that I did encounter reps that made sense...So I'm half-half about the decision, but it's not my place to decide now is it? =P
So...we'll see what happens I guess~


~Eli

[Chibi-chan]

Okay, here's the thing, you're opinions are not the same as everyone's so stop thinking that they are.

Chibi, you make a thread, or post here and post good reasons. How it can make PC a better place, how rep abuse can be kept down (because we can't look at EVERY rep that goes through) and not because you want it back yourself, or because you think it's fun. The truth is, I want rep back, I like rep, but will it help PC in the long run? Hell no.
.-. unfortunately it's not....I understand your point now...I'll try to think of an idea, but now I think I might not be able to...oh well....I think I've stated all I can say....

[ryan]

mihara got modded because he was dedicated to PC and had intelligent things to say in his posts... unlike some people... *cough* accident *cough*

[AcCiDeNT]

Have you ever made something and got rep for it? Makes you feel good don't it? Makes you feel like making more, making it better, ect. It just makes you feel good and know that you did something good...

[Ryoutarou]

I know people that feel the same way, look at mewthree... He feels the same way, I'll speak for me and him then... Mihara what did you do to become mod or whatever the hell you are? You were very active and posted alot and the recognized you! omg, that's not that hard to be active... I know many people better suited... Look at scizz, Jeremy, Mau Reese...I became a mod because I wrote a long guide to anime and manga and because I was very helpful in the Anime/Manga area, but that was almost a year ago and has nothing to do with this thread.

And like I said, this a big thread, but because the same people are posting in it, not all of PC like you seem to think. If a member wants to leave, let them, it's just sad to leave over something like rep.

[AcCiDeNT]

read the post above <.<, I used to love PC, but now it has become n00b infected... Especially the hacks showcase, people PMing me 24/7 o.O, people can turn their rep off in user CP if they wanted to so bad...

[Ryoutarou]

read the post above <.<, I used to love PC, but now it has become n00b infected... Especially the hacks showcase, people PMing me 24/7 o.O, people can turn their rep off in user CP if they wanted to so bad...
Out of the...oh look, half a year you've been here? Most of the staff have been here for over two years, the ones that made the choice for rep to go anyway.

And like I said, even if you turn rep off, it still effects the rep. Your points go down and you see the comments.

[AcCiDeNT]

wow, comments that's really gonna hurt someone right there <.< and who cares if the staff has been here over 2 years... Half a year 2 years 3 years, it doesn't really matter...

[Spectrum]

I know people that feel the same way, look at mewthree... He feels the same way, I'll speak for me and him then... Mihara what did you do to become mod or whatever the hell you are? You were very active and posted alot and the recognized you! omg, that's not that hard to be active... I know many people better suited... Look at scizz, Jeremy, Mau Reese...
Open your eyes. There's over 13,000 members here. You and mewthree are 2 members. 2 out of 13,000 members, does that look like a good comparison to you? Sure doesn't for me.

And you're just looking for trouble now. To me, you're just a tree falling in a forest after being hacked off your hinges. In other words, stop trying to annoy people, because you're succeeding, and will regret it later.

wow, comments that's really gonna hurt someone right there <.< and who cares if the staff has been here over 2 years... Half a year 2 years 3 years, it doesn't really matter...
Who said he was trying to hurt anybody? Gawd, it's like your life purpose is to flame others on the internet. Knock it off already.

[Ryoutarou]

wow, comments that's really gonna hurt someone right there <.< and who cares if the staff has been here over 2 years... Half a year 2 years 3 years, it doesn't really matter...It means you've probably been here long enough to see real change at PC and not what really isn't that much in the grand scale of it. So stop thinking just because it doesn't effect you when you get a rude comment that it won't effect others, you do not speak for all of PC.

[AcCiDeNT]

Uh, how will i regret it? haha they're gonna ban me? that's great I don't care about a banning... Banning doesn't mean anything, you can get around a banning lmao...

[Chibi-chan]

*idea* We have now put it so no one has any rep....

is there a way we can hide our rep and others rep like we have an option to hide other's avatars and sigs? =D
Or could we make it so those with disabled rep dont see comments and such? Just an idea....

[Arcanine]

Ok this post might look hard, well it is (look at it was mean, hard, harsh whatever). I am going to speak my mind on this post, and if you don't like it then too bad. If you don't want to hear my views on rep and the members that's leaving over it, then stop reading right now.


The Rep System itself.
I myself like the rep system (if it was just up to me I would leave it on). I loved getting good rep from members on posts that I put lots of hard work into. When I got good rep on them posts it made me happy. The sad thing is, I rarely got rep that way. All of you are thinking "Well you had a gold block so you got lots of rep". Yea I did get a good bit of rep, but 99.9% of the rep I got was on posts that didn't mean anything, most of it was posts like in the DCC. And that's why the whole rep system went out the window ages ago. And then you got members crying about the bad rep they got. "Oh I got a bad rep, delete it for me because they hurt my feelings", I can understand deleting swearing and flaming rep. But I had members that would PM me about bad rep, not flaming or anything like that, it was red so they wanting it gone. And that is just stupid, we had bad rep turned on for a reason. And that reason wasn't so that Admins/Praetors could go around deleting bad rep. And I also got sick of all the stupid n00b threads in Q&F, yapping about rep (I am also pissed off at all the n00bs that don't read the FAQ threads or the FAQ on the NavBar, I guess we have them there just to fill up the forum). Questions on this or that, and a lot of them questions were answered in the FAQ and threads that done came up before. We had FAQ on just rep (go to the Tech forum and you'll see them) but that didn't work because n00bs (and I might add some older members) would still ask questions on rep. PMs, threads, IMs everywhere you turned something about rep was going on. It's crazy how many threads in Q&F are about rep (I'm sure you could take them all and put them in 10 threads, most of the questions asked has done been asked 100 times before).

Members leaving because they think they are to blame for this.
This is to all of you members like CFG that is thinking about leaving because you think you are to blame for this. Please, don't leave PC. This whole rep thing has been going on forever. Ever since the big rep rush where members would get in groups and rep each other just to get more green blocks. You are not to blame for this turning off of rep. This thing has been going on and off for a very long time now, CFG says he might leave because of this, because he thinks he's to blame for this. We have been planing this longer then he's been a member on PC, we have been planing it longer then a lot of you have been members on PC. The over all rep system is totally screwed up and I don't think it would ever get back to the way it was before the rep rush started. All of you that is thinking about leaving because you think you're to blame for this, please don't leave. It's not worth leaving over (if all of you knew that happened to me once on PC then this would look like a small thing).

Members leaving because they don't like it being turned off.
And this is for all of you pissy members that's going to or done left PC.
Good riddance. I don't care if you like this or not. But leaving over rep is the stupidest, dumbest, most idiotic thing. If you want to leave over rep then leave, and I hope you trip on the way out (because if you did like PC and you did leave over rep then you will wish you didn't). I don't give a flip about the members that's going to leave over a stupid thing like rep. Because they are
A: Don't care about their friends/threads/posts ect on PC.
B: They are too stupid to think and reason that rep isn't worth it (I'm not talking about the members that wants to keep rep. I'm talking about the ones that is leaving PC only because rep is gone).
C: Some member that says he/she is going to leave just to get the Staff to go "OMG don't leave, we will turn it back on if you don't leave".
You came to PC to post about something (even forum spammers post their forum or PM their forum), it might have been your site, or games, or art, or fanfic, or whatever. You didn't come here to get higher rep. You came here for something other then how reputation points you can get. If you came here just to get good rep then go on, leave and have fun out there too. If you're going to leave over a few stupid green blocks then you shouldn't have joined in the first place.

I don't care if this post offended anyone, pissed them off, or made them really mad. I am posting my views on this whole rep matter, and I don't care if you agree with it or not (like I said in the top of the post "if you don't like it then too bad"). The only person I cared about when making this post is me, not any other member that posted in this thread.

[Gilgαmesh]

I became a mod because I wrote a long guide to anime and manga and because I was very helpful in the Anime/Manga area, but that was almost a year ago and has nothing to do with this thread.

And like I said, this a big thread, but because the same people are posting in it, not all of PC like you seem to think. If a member wants to leave, let them, it's just sad to leave over something like rep.

It was very sad indeed Jorge. I mean, look at how many people argue about rep. This is getting us nowhere. People are arguing about minature sized versions of progress reports. O.o;

If a member wants to leave, then I could care less though.

EDIT: Sorry Andy.

[ForPortCity]

All you MODS are n00bz the only reason you guys are MODS is because all the good ones quit XD so I wuoldn't be talking you freaking wimpz.

[Kurosaki]

Uh, how will i regret it? haha they're gonna ban me? that's great I don't care about a banning... Banning doesn't mean anything, you can get around a banning lmao...
Haha yeah, I am gonna ban ya! =D!!
You've had more then enough warnings! =D!!!
Make another account and it'll get longer too! =D!!!

[Spectrum]

Uh, how will i regret it? haha they're gonna ban me? that's great I don't care about a banning... Banning doesn't mean anything, you can get around a banning lmao...
You know, if you'd even take the time to evade a ban on a forum that is run by people you quite clearly hate, that's just sad. Plus, ban evasion is illegal. It's as easy as resolving your IP, going to your ISP's website, and reporting you. Sound fun?

Gawd, Arcy. o_o; I think that wins the thread.

All you MODS are n00bz the only reason you guys are MODS is because all the good ones quit XD so I wuoldn't be talking you freaking wimpz.
Your brain seems to be asleep. Please retain your so-called intelligence and then try again.

[Ryoutarou]

All you MODS are n00bz the only reason you guys are MODS is because all the good ones quit XD so I wuoldn't be talking you freaking wimpz.In the past year, one mod has quit. The others didn't leave because they wanted to, so rethink what you're saying before you end up banned. Yes, bashing the staff as a whole like that is flaming.

[Chibi-chan]

It was very sad indeed Jorge. I mean, look at how many people argue about rep. This is getting us nowhere. People are arguing about minature sized versions of progress reports. O.o;

If a member wants to leave, then I could care less though.
Is it just me, or are you repeating things over and over? o.0 Could you...stop?

BTW: I agree with Andy entirely. Bad rep? Big whoop. Everyone gets them....like everyone's been annoyed with n00b spam. ThE CQ&F....is there a way that you could while they're making a thread post as a note READ THE FAQ FIRST like you do with the character limit?

[ForPortCity]

Yea, you can just get a new proxy easy with mozilla firefox, AcCiDeNT if you don't know how I can show you on AIM so don't even bother..

[Kurosaki]

Andy, n00bs won't read that cause its too long, but its really good, XD

ForPort= warning for flaming

[Ryoutarou]

Yea, you can just get a new proxy easy with mozilla firefox, AcCiDeNT if you don't know how I can show you on AIM so don't even bother..Good bye, thank you for posting at PC. Join again before your ban is up and I'll double it, do it again, and I'll double that.

[Gilgαmesh]

Is it just me, or are you repeating things over and over? o.0 Could you...stop?



It's just you. I don't want to argue with anybody here so I am going to leave this thread. This thread is whole lot like flaming for what I have read.

[Chibi-chan]

Andy, n00bs won't read that cause its too long, but its really good, XD

ForPort= warning for flaming
What exactly are you saying by that? You're not adressing all in this thread by saying n00b are you? I read that, just like I read the 'closed thread' thread....

RS: FLAMING =/= OPINION

[Asura Nirosuki]

Thank the lord. n_n No more Raise my rep Pm's.

[Ryoutarou]

Is it just me, or are you repeating things over and over? o.0 Could you...stop?

BTW: I agree with Andy entirely. Bad rep? Big whoop. Everyone gets them....like everyone's been annoyed with n00b spam. ThE CQ&F....is there a way that you could while they're making a thread post as a note READ THE FAQ FIRST like you do with the character limit?
People can just skip it though, and most people do skip reading it.

[Spectrum]

What exactly are you saying by that? You're not adressing all in this thread by saying n00b are you? I read that, just like I read the 'closed thread' thread....

RS: FLAMING =/= OPINION
Literally speaking, a n00b is one who refuses to listen to others and always blabbers on like they're always right. So to speak, you don't fit into this category, but many in this thread do, and they're quite unaware of it.

And no, stating your opinion isn't flaming, but when you try to state your opinion as fact, that can be flaming. It depends on what you make it.

[Legolas]

Sad but ture Mario. *sigh* I hate it that the staff have disalbed it, but meh, it will stop a LOT of abuse, and people being pissed off, lol. So, its a good thing outta a bad thing :classic:

[Gilgαmesh]

What exactly are you saying by that? You're not adressing all in this thread by saying n00b are you? I read that, just like I read the 'closed thread' thread....

RS: FLAMING =/= OPINION

Would you stop that Chibi? It is getting really annoying that you think I am flaming. I am therfore stating my opinion. I hate that when people think I am flaming though.

How would you feel when people say that YOU were flaming other people while stating your opinion?

[Jordan]

It was fun while it lasted. Some of us even has work hard to get good reps but I guess it went out of control and hopefully we'll be better off without it.

[Asura Nirosuki]

That happens alot. All you have to do is learn the difference of Flaming and Opions.

[Spectrum]

It was fun while it lasted. Some of us even has work hard to get good reps but I guess it went out of control and hopefully we'll be better off without it.
The people 'working hard' for good reps are the reason it had to go, fyi.

[Chibi-chan]

Would you stop that Chibi? It is getting really annoying that you think I am flaming. I am therfore stating my opinion. I hate that when people think I am flaming though.

How would you feel when people say that YOU were flaming other people while stating your opinion?

I'm not trying to argue. You just really annoy me at times and....yeah. Duh, I've people say I'm flamming, it happens to everyone and eventually someone will most likely flame something else. If you feel the urge to bite me, do so through PM...

Ok....onto rep again....could there be a way so seeing others and thier own reputation could be optional? Like put this setting as optional?

[Inuyasha]

Wow. That's a pretty good argument there.
In one hand... Chibi seems totally childish and outta line...
In the other hand... Digital is right there. Opinions arent flaming unless you go Neo-Nazi and try to fore it on others.
I'm speaking for myself here... But If I were callin someone a n00b, I would directly insult them. I mean... wouldnt wanna hurt anyone else's feelings.
So guys... try calming down, shaking hands, and stayin on the topic of the FRIGGIN THREAD.
Do not make me kaze no kizu you. SSOO not in the mood. Now... Sayonara for a while guys. Play nice.
Oh... Kame... I sound like a Mod...
/sighs.


Oh... errr... topic...
I was just gettin some good rep too. and Dakota's " OH SNAP SONN! " Rep was friggin funny to see there... /sigh.
Oh well. It's no big deal to me.

[ryan]

this wass getting pretty personal and off topic... this thread isn't about defining flaming. it's about the absense of a rep system. if i had the power, i'd lock this and be done with it. arcanine said everything that really needs to be said. it seems like this'll just be a place for members to gripe at each other... we don't need that. and i agree, dakota's rep was pretty hilarious. BOO-YA!

[Gilgαmesh]

I'm not trying to argue. You just really annoy me at times and....yeah. Duh, I've people say I'm flamming, it happens to everyone and eventually someone will most likely flame something else. If you feel the urge to bite me, do so through PM...

Ok....onto rep again....could there be a way so seeing others and thier own reputation could be optional? Like put this setting as optional?

If i do really annoy you then just deal with it. And yes you are arguing. I am getting sick and tired of people who really think I am annoying them and such. Currently people are flaming each other because of this rep system being disabled.

So please stop Chibi. >>

[Spectrum]

Ok....onto rep again....could there be a way so seeing others and thier own reputation could be optional? Like put this setting as optional?
Nope, it's either you hide your rep or show it. Unless there's a hack on vB.org that allows otherwise, but I've yet to see one. Plus, the whole reason it's gone is because people were abusing it. Your idea wouldn't stop abuse.

[Kurosaki]

Too much flaming going on here. Rep is gone, get used to it, yadda yadda, XD
If another thread is made, it'll be closed, no questions asked.

(-Closed-)