Revolution control.

[Zero ex]

Well, Iwata have realesed the nintendo revolution control. I saw it and is the worst control ever seen in a console. I prefer PS3 batman controller that, nintendo revolution controller. this are some pics of the new controller.

http://media.nintendo.com/mediaFiles/ygUrLWfBbkLmSZw4qpbZBkHWwhfjOrfc.jpg
http://media.nintendo.com/mediaFiles/_5Tz-IlgbTYbG8JUFC6tXfFohjx05HQ3.jpg
http://media.nintendo.com/mediaFiles/EdX2WT4zfrPiOI_RoY3JWEMfpGJXu5MG.jpg

If this will be the real control, Revolution's sells will go down, it's better the gamecube control. Maybe this is nintendo worst idea.

[chrno]

oo man im gonna cry,( just kidding) well seems a very "advance" control, but then we dont have to fun to press all the buttons fast and all that, mhhmh (clear voice) NINTENDO!!, this is crap, there is nothing good in making an "advance" control if we dont get fun with it.

[Brittany]

Wow, very innovative. But I hate it.

[Chairman Kaga]

Wow, way to go, Iwata-san. You just sent half your potential customers (including me) to the PS3 camp.

Nintendo has lost its mind >.<;

[Brittany]

Well, we can't throw everything out the window just yet. This is the official controller, but that doesn't mean other's won't be compatible. A GCN-like controller might be available in the future as an attachment to the tv-styled remote's expansion.

But I still hate it.

[Zero ex]

It will be cool to use our gamecube controllers in revoliution games. This new controller is stupid, now nintendo is doing bad. First the nintendo ds, the second screen is useless in most of the games. But to make the controller so stupid, that will be hard to forgive nintendo. The only thing that will save nintendo is the new legend of zelda.

[Brittany]

Think about dying and slamming you're remote on the ground, not only will your parents think you've gone mental, but as you leave you'll notice your character running off screen.

Or when friends come over, they take a seat, decide to join your game, then grab the VCR remote(yeah, this controller looks that ancient).

PS3's boomerang controller makes this one look like a joke. Or a toaster even.

[Chairman Kaga]

If you can't control a game, it's no good, even if the game itself is incredible, unfortunately...

A GC-style controller would be nice, but seeing as how Nintendo has been drunk on innovation for a year or so I doubt it's likely.

Could have been worse, though...Nintendo might have made it an LCD touch screen like some rumors said =/

[Mario The World Champion]

*sees controller and starts laughing* XD

HA!! Give me the Wavebird anyday!! Nintendo needs to go to detox for a while if they do make this controller.

[Brittany]

Could have been worse, though...Nintendo might have made it an LCD touch screen like some rumors said =/
I would much rather prefer a touchscreen. Even if it was a screen the size of those retro Ninty controllers, and buttons showing the original's accordingly.

Actually, I think I'll just play NES instead of Revolution. Perhaps we'll get lucky and Nintendo will go bankrupt, and unwillingly sell themselves to Microsoft. Then Sony and Micrendo(yes, I just made that out) could battle for the glory of next-next-gen. Or not.

[Mario The World Champion]

Nintendo will probably never die. I sure hope they'll scrap that idea and stick with something like the Gamecube controller.

And I hate the look of that PS3 Batman controller. GIVE ME THE USUAL DUAL SHOCK!!

[Zero ex]

Well i prefer the batman controller than these new trash controller. It will be more advanced but it will be harder to play. Super smash brothers with that control? That will be a stupid and crazy idea!

[Brittany]

Nintendo will probably never die. I sure hope they'll scrap that idea and stick with something like the Gamecube controller.

And I hate the look of that PS3 Batman controller. GIVE ME THE USUAL DUAL SHOCK!!
Just incase you're wondering, the controller was Revolution's...
Revolution. If they scrape the controller, they'll scrape the console.


Atleast with PS3's Batman controller, 3rd party companies will be able to market off their versions of the controller, and if fans cry out for one designed like Dual Shock, you can be sure they'll do it.

Revolution has a different case. They can always make controllers shaped after specific models of television controllers though. If you're like me, you'll do anything to have matching designed controllers for each piece of equipment in your house...

[Breakout]

even though I respect nintendo for still trying to revlutionize gaming, this has however pushed me closer into buying a PS3 and 360 before the revolution now.

[loony]

you guys forget to mention some functions =/
Main Controller Features

* 3D Pointing. Sensors understand up, down, left, right, forward and backward.
* Tilt Sensitive. Controller can be rotated or rolled from side-to-side.
* Buttons Included. Has a trigger on its backside, face buttons, and a D-Pad.
* Multifunctional. Has an expansion port which can be used with different types of controller peripherals. Analog stick with two trigger buttons planned for left hand.
* Wireless. Totally wire-free. Currently there are no details on the max distance, source or power, or otherwise.
* Rumble Built-in. Included as a standard in all the controllers.

see its not as bad that as it seems =/ mine thought was also WTF!! a remote control >_< but after some reading its pretty good =/
video: http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/651/651334/vids_1.html


source: http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651275p2.html
http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651224p1.html
developers comment: http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651304p1.html
more stuff: http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651317p1.html

see do some reading before you say something=p
and you should give nintendo credit for there courage for doing this. i don't see sony and microsoft doing this=/ they don't have the courage to try out something new they yust make a better console with better chips etc.=/

[Cybex Mewtwo]

Wow...so thats what they look like...finally, a controller worthy of challanging me...muahahahahahaha.....It's gonna take me a bit to learn it but it'll be worth it! I actually LIKE this controller design...*hit with bricks from other posters*

[loony]

i am positive about this :chinese: you have yust to open your mind for this controller.imaging playing legend of zelda with this swinging with the controller to swing with the sword of link and much and much more...and expansions for the controller imaging al the possibilities of all the stuff 0.0' i can't wait for tha console coming out=/

[Arcanine]

I am open minded with this. I think the look of it isn't that good. Then again when I first saw the Revolution I thought it looked like a removable hard-drive. But now I love the way it looks.

I done went all out on what I thought about the controller in my post in my Nintendo Club.
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=1526721#post1526721
That's the post, that's what I think about the new controller. It looks like a lot to read, but I think it's worth it.

[Zero ex]

Well i read many articles of that contrlo and still i did not like it. In a demo of the revolution, they said that when you move the controller the screen moved, that's stupid! If we want to move to another posision, we will need to move the revolution.

The president of Sonic ames like the controller quiet a bit. The articles were from www.gamespot.com

[Forest Grovyle]

I like this controller - at first I was like "wha...?" but then when I saw the previews and read up on it it's really growing on me! :D Should make a very interesting gaming experience, especially with games like Zelda. :) I'm willing to give it a chance, especially as I know that all the Nintendo games I love will be able to be played in new and interesting ways. ^_^

[Johto Boy]

At first it looked wierd, but I like it. Think of a Star Wars game where you could use the controller as a lightsaber, or a blaster! I think it is cool, but I think they need to make a second verson(one you hold with 2 hands) to keep everyone satisfied.

[John Denver]

I'm trying...I'm trying really, REALLY hard to like this controller...but I can't

C'MON nintendo! Different doesn't always mean better!

[Mr Cat Dog]

I'm skeptical about this.

Nearly every single reviewer has said on first impressions that they hated it. But when they actually played a game with it, they couldn't imagine anything else. I personally think it is very inventive and innovative. Whether that makes it any better will be my own decision.

Besides, if you people judge a conglomerate company based on one games controller, then you must be quite shallow, or a complete cynic. Just give it a chance.

[Kipkip]

I have lost all hope in Nintendo ever making quality products again.

[TRIFORCE89]

I'm open minded to this. You people do know it's not supposed to play the same way as a regular controller, right? If it were, this set up would be completely unplayable! I mean just look at the button setup! Or...the lack of buttons, rather. I'm sure this thing can do stuff that we aren't are of yet.

It's completely motion sensored and after watching that video...I don't think anyone thought it would be *that* much. I mean...playing Zelda you'd actually be swinging that thing like a sword. However...also from watching the video I noticed a lot of it was flip of the wrist and click. It's like a sophisticated mouse, but I hope you get some actual game and not just hundred of different Duck Hunt variations. @@

But then again...if it feels as natural as mouse, that's good. THQ, EA, Ubisoft they all love it. I think Sega's seen it too before and was impressed. I can't recall Square-Enix or not.

But still, it needs a redesign. If they want to keep the remot idea, fine. Just make it look...I dunno...comfortable?

I don't know. I don't think we've seen it's potential yet.


Touching is good, feeling is better.

[Forest Grovyle]

To people who are worried that it's too different from a regular controller, Nintendo will also be releasing a slide-on peripheral that will slide over the "remote" controller to give regular button layouts for playing games that best suit them. :)

In an interview with a Nintendo representative:
"The thorny issue of how games not designed specifically for the Revolution - multi-platform titles - will be played. He had the answer: "We're producing a classic-style expansion controller, based on traditional designs like the Gamecube controller. It's like a shell with a hole in the top into which you slot the freehand-style controller, and then you can play third-party ported games, and retro Nintendo games you've downloaded."

Even better, while it's inserted into the classic-style shell, the freehand controller will still be able to sense positioning, bringing more options to classic games."

I say don't knock it til' you've tried it ^_^ I think it has a lot of potential and can't wait to see it in action with a real Revolution game!

[TRIFORCE89]

To people who are worried that it's too different from a regular controller, Nintendo will also be releasing a slide-on peripheral that will slide over the "remote" controller to give regular button layouts for playing games that best suit them. :)

In an interview with a Nintendo representative:
"The thorny issue of how games not designed specifically for the Revolution - multi-platform titles - will be played. He had the answer: "We're producing a classic-style expansion controller, based on traditional designs like the Gamecube controller. It's like a shell with a hole in the top into which you slot the freehand-style controller, and then you can play third-party ported games, and retro Nintendo games you've downloaded."

Even better, while it's inserted into the classic-style shell, the freehand controller will still be able to sense positioning, bringing more options to classic games."

I say don't knock it til' you've tried it ^_^ I think it has a lot of potential and can't wait to see it in action with a real Revolution game!
I'm sure Nintendo would use that shell for some games aswell (besides the Retro). Which is good. For Nintendo to do well, they have to do what others are doing, plus more. Watching that video again...it reminded me of EyeToy, which is not a good thing.

I have hope, and people seem to like it already. I say, don't put it down until you see it action.

[serpenter]

well anything is better than sony, it goes liek this...
1) nintendo come up with a cool new idea
2) sony steal it and use it till its lost its magic
thats been the way its gone for ages now.
the controler looks difrent, yet again nintendo coming up with a COOL new degsine and NOT a boomerang controler.
btw i am a MAGOR sony hater and im glad rep is gone at the moment ^_^

[Zero ex]

well anything is better than sony, it goes liek this...
1) nintendo come up with a cool new idea
2) sony steal it and use it till its lost its magic
thats been the way its gone for ages now.
the controler looks difrent, yet again nintendo coming up with a COOL new degsine and NOT a boomerang controler.
btw i am a MAGOR sony hater and im glad rep is gone at the moment ^_^


Well, It seems you will take our reputation points, because we do not like this controller, right? Well all sony lovers will take your to and besides, we are discussing about the controller, not that you hate sony and all that. O, and did you know that super nintendo (snes) was not only created by nintendo, it was to of sony.


Though, the cntrol seems to be all futuristic and all, but it will be difficult to play with that thing, if i want to play with that, i can use my tv control. Now ninteno is disappointing me. Now or only hope left, is that pelican or madcatz, make a special control for the revolution, that it is like the classical ones.

Well they wasted a good idea, with that control.

[Kurosaki]

It seems pretty interesting to me, and as others have said already, you shouldn't really judge it negatively until you've played it. I get board of all these standard controllers anyways. The last thing I wanted was like what Sony did with the PS2 controller (gave it the same controller as the PS1 and changed the colour... Not very creative...) Some of those with negative comments already bash Nintendo, so its easy to zone out their comments, XD

Go Nintendo! Being different is a GOOD thing, not a bad thing! ^^

[Allstories]

Well, It seems you will take our reputation points, because we do not like this controller, right? Well all sony lovers will take your to and besides, we are discussing about the controller, not that you hate sony and all that. O, and did you know that super nintendo (snes) was not only created by nintendo, it was to of sony.


Though, the cntrol seems to be all futuristic and all, but it will be difficult to play with that thing, if i want to play with that, i can use my tv control. Now ninteno is disappointing me. Now or only hope left, is that pelican or madcatz, make a special control for the revolution, that it is like the classical ones.

Well they wasted a good idea, with that control.

Nintendo's not stupid, believe it or not. If the controller was really that difficult to use, I THINK SOMEONE WOULD NOTICE.

[GodofPH]

Hmmm, I'm skeptical about this, but I'm reassured when I think about what Nintendo coulkd do with it.

[FireEmporer]

Wow. I woulda figured people being more open minded.. it looks really cool. You need to imagian the possibilities of this.

[TRIFORCE89]

Have you all watch the video? Or only look at the pictures? Because, yes the pictures alone make it look like rubbish, unplayable even. But watch the video. I just did again, with my dad this time, and he was blown away by it.

I do think it could do with some tweaking, but I think it's very innovative and has potential. And luckily, as Forest Grovyle already pointed out, more "normal" version will be avaible as well.

I made a list of developers that already love this thing. You can add Hideo (MGS) to that now too.

[Jarman]

Like Triforce said, see a video for it or read an article about it and you will see how awesome it truly is. *coughswordswingingandgunaimingandstufflikethatcough*

[The S]

Innovation my tail feathers, that thing's so fugly it makes the PlayStation 3 controller look like a Godsend. I don't care how innovative it is, I don't want to be caught dead playing with Iwata's turd.

[Raizor Blaid]

^to the above poster: uh huh, and you bothered to reply to this topic why?
that thing's so fugly it makes the PlayStation 3 controller look like a Godsend.
theres more to a controler than its looks, and learn to spell ugly.
anyways, I think this new controler will be pretty cool, I'll buy the "notmal version" attachement (sp?) as soon as it come sout, but its pretty cool. the only thing I hope they upgrade (or is already one it, I just haven't heard) is the option to turn off the motion sensitive laser thing and play normally.

[Andrea-chan]

O, and did you know that super nintendo (snes) was not only created by nintendo, it was to of sony.Uh... no. You got it switched around Zero ex. Sony started off as a SNES CD add on.
http://www.retro-games.co.uk/sony/sony.htm
As you can see Sony was leaching off of Nintendo way back from the start, and Sony still does it.



But anyway this thread is about the Rev controller.
The controller itself shouldn't be judged by looks alone. From what I've seen it looks to be revolutionary. To me it puts the Revolution in the Nintendo Revolution. I am one of the people that thought the look of the Revolution itself was stupid. I got used to it and now think it looks great.

[Brittany]

you guys forget to mention some functions =/
Main Controller Features

* 3D Pointing. Sensors understand up, down, left, right, forward and backward.
And along with this, you must sit in a certain position, use your entire arm(or wrist) to control. More of a chore IMO
* Tilt Sensitive. Controller can be rotated or rolled from side-to-side.
Meaning we can't lean or get into comfy positions on the couch?! Nuuuuuuuuu!
* Buttons Included. Has a trigger on its backside, face buttons, and a D-Pad.
I was really looking forward to this!
* Multifunctional. Has an expansion port which can be used with different types of controller peripherals. Analog stick with two trigger buttons planned for left hand.
Why not just go wireless for extra peripherals? Or atleast make the connection utilize something we're all used to, such as a USB port on the controller?
* Wireless. Totally wire-free. Currently there are no details on the max distance, source or power, or otherwise.
Do my eyes decieve me? The left hand controller is wired to the remote-styled one!
* Rumble Built-in. Included as a standard in all the controllers.

Comments are above :]

Perhaps it's just my preferance, but I think Nintendo is going to die away in this gen.Uh... no. You got it switched around Zero ex. Sony started off as a SNES CD add on.
http://www.retro-games.co.uk/sony/sony.htm
As you can see Sony was leaching off of Nintendo way back from the start, and Sony still does it.



But anyway this thread is about the Rev controller.
The controller itself shouldn't be judged by looks alone. From what I've seen it looks to be revolutionary. To me it puts the Revolution in the Nintendo Revolution. I am one of the people that thought the look of the Revolution itself was stupid. I got used to it and now think it looks great.
Sony never leeched off them. I'd much rather say Ninty leeched off Sony! SNES Playstation was a joint project, each company was to blame for it's non-existance. And keep in mind, this was before Sony had a standalone videogame buisness. They didn't pop out of nowhere and say 'lets leech off their system and create a disc drive!'...

But after PS1 was released, Nintendo decided to... *gasp* create N64DD! Who leeched off who?

[Zero ex]

Uh... no. You got it switched around Zero ex. Sony started off as a SNES CD add on.
http://www.retro-games.co.uk/sony/sony.htm
As you can see Sony was leaching off of Nintendo way back from the start, and Sony still does it.



But anyway this thread is about the Rev controller.
The controller itself shouldn't be judged by looks alone. From what I've seen it looks to be revolutionary. To me it puts the Revolution in the Nintendo Revolution. I am one of the people that thought the look of the Revolution itself was stupid. I got used to it and now think it looks great.


OO you are right about sony.

Well I said, it is a futuristic controller, it have lots of cool things, but for some people it will be hard to use that one. o and i saw the video. If there will be a normal version, it will be cool, that way we can normally play cool games like Super smash bros meele, and resident evil(they are supposed to be to all nintendo consoles).

[Brittany]

OO you are right about sony.

Well I said, it is a futuristic controller, it have lots of cool things, but for some people it will be hard to use that one. o and i saw the video. If there will be a normal version, it will be cool, that way we can normally play cool games like Super smash bros meele, and resident evil(they are supposed to be to all nintendo consoles).
Oh really? Resident Evil 5 isn't currently in production for NR, but is for PS3 and X360...

I'd really like to know how they're going to all be for Nintendo consoles...

^to the above poster: uh huh, and you bothered to reply to this topic why?

theres more to a controler than its looks, and learn to spell ugly.
anyways, I think this new controler will be pretty cool, I'll buy the "notmal version" attachement (sp?) as soon as it come sout, but its pretty cool. the only thing I hope they upgrade (or is already one it, I just haven't heard) is the option to turn off the motion sensitive laser thing and play normally.
Fugly isn't mispelling ugly...

I almost wanted to cry when I saw the Revolution video...

[Zero ex]

Oh really? Resident Evil 5 isn't currently in production for NR, but is for PS3 and X360...

I'd really like to know how they're going to all be for Nintendo consoles...

I have readed many articles, and most of them said that Capcom said that all the resident evils will be in nintendo consoles, though, i know it was only announced to 360 and Ps3. Maybe is that it will be difficult to make the game for Revolution, since the controller is strange and lacking in some buttons.

[Eon-Rider]

It kinda looks like an aeroplane controller...

[Bayleef]

Well, my opinions pretty much stand as the same as Triforce89's, but here's a picture of the Wavebird like shell of the remote for those who have not seen it yet.

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/651/651559/understanding-the-revolution-controller-20050916041026412-000.jpg

[Esupio]

thank god for that my faith in nintendo is restored

[Jarman]

Well, my opinions pretty much stand as the same as Triforce89's, but here's a picture of the Wavebird like shell of the remote for those who have not seen it yet.

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/651/651559/understanding-the-revolution-controller-20050916041026412-000.jpg

That's not the actual controller shell, it's just a mock-up that IGN made. The real one hasn't been revealed yet.

And to people who hate it: How is it ugly? Do you not use computer mice? It's technically a 3D mouse. And do you not use remotes? And do you have any good reasons to hate it other than that it looks ugly?

[Kurosaki]

And along with this, you must sit in a certain position, use your entire arm(or wrist) to control. More of a chore IMO
Just because you're lazy doesn't necssarily mean this is a bad controller. It honestly doesn't matter what we say to you anyways, no matter what you'll think up some excuse to why Nintendo products suck compared to Sony, yadda yadda.

Meaning we can't lean or get into comfy positions on the couch?! Nuuuuuuuuu!
Leaning while playing video games isn't healthy to begin with.

I was really looking forward to this!
Sarcasm? >>

Why not just go wireless for extra peripherals? Or atleast make the connection utilize something we're all used to, such as a USB port on the controller?
Because Nintendo has ORIGINAL ideas, and doesn't just rip everything off a computer.

Do my eyes decieve me? The left hand controller is wired to the remote-styled one!
Oh please, that wasn't even a worthwhile point. The wire isn't even long, and connects the 2 controller piecec, not to the console.

^Comments up there. And no, I'm not a Nintendo fanboy, I treasure my Sony consoles and Nintendo consoles equally. Honestly, XBOX aint worth my time, XD

[Jarman]

People who hate it only hate it because they don't know about the gyroscopic features.

[Ziggy]

Look ninty rules end of story they said they were doing something different and well they did it but at least it's better than the ps3's "really cool" (YEAH RIGHT) boomerang controller!!

[Steeleon]

^Comments up there. And no, I'm not a Nintendo fanboy, I treasure my Sony consoles and Nintendo consoles equally. Honestly, XBOX aint worth my time, XD

Like omg! I'm the same way! xD

Anyways, I guess I could give this a try. At first glance I was a bit sceptical, and still am. But I guess I could give Nintendo the benefit of the doubt...again.

[The S]

uh huh, and you bothered to reply to this topic why?

Because I felt like adding my opinion, just the same as everybody else. Is there something wrong with doing so? Sheesh. I never even slammed the Revolution itself. I just said I didn't want to look like a complete spazz playing it. Hopefully most, if not all games will come with an option to use the GameCube controller instead, because even though I don't really care for it either, this thing seems to be a piece of tripe.

Oh, and fugly is short for f***ing ugly. It's not a typo.

[Brittany]

Just because you're lazy doesn't necssarily mean this is a bad controller. It honestly doesn't matter what we say to you anyways, no matter what you'll think up some excuse to why Nintendo products suck compared to Sony, yadda yadda.There are two ways to look at it, either Nintendo making different products just to be different, or Nintendo making different products to be better. 'IMO' justified that I was looking at it from my perspective.
Leaning while playing video games isn't healthy to begin with.Joking!
Sarcasm? >>I just don't know why that was listed as a feature...
Because Nintendo has ORIGINAL ideas, and doesn't just rip everything off a computer.That's not being original, that's using proprietary technology in an unforgivable case. Exactly why would someone buy an official Revolution keyboard when they could just plug their own?
And in the midst of all of that sillyness, it's not even completely wireless?

Why extra features will the Revolution utilize by not supporting connections we already use?
Oh please, that wasn't even a worthwhile point. The wire isn't even long, and connects the 2 controller piecec, not to the console.What about people with really long arms!?!?! :P

Seriously though, refer to the point just above this for my reasoning.

[Swizzler121]

HOW DARE YOU!!!!!! YOU THINK A ****-**** *** TOY IS BETTER THAN A COMPLETLY ORIGONAL IDEA! ALL THEY DID WAS MAKE LONGER HANDLES!!!! OHHH THEY REALLY HAD THINK HARD ON THAT ONE!!! GUESS WHO MADE POKEMON??? WAS IT CRY BABY, NO CARE FOR THERE CUSTOMERS SONY? NO!!!! IT WAS THE ONLY COMPANY WITH A SYSTEM THAT IS COMPLETELEY COMMITED TO SERVING YOU!! SHOVE THAT UP YOUR ****-**** *** TOY!!!




here's a link to the video, from what I read,(which was the first post) is here:THE MOST REVOLUTINARY CONTROLLER!!! (http://http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=1656)

Zero ex, From what I read you didn't even tell what the controller does!!! It uses wireless technology and full movement technology to make it so your constantly moving, now that's revolutionary, much better than those retards at sony!! that's whos working at sony, they just bumped into the gaming industry like nobodys business. And don't even say Microsoft did that, they have been making computer games forever. The gaming industry is not something to just show up in!!! Nintendo is not new to this world! They saved the word of gaming by coming out with the NES (Nintendo Entertainment System) They Have been the ones to make revolutions before!! Sony has done Diddly squat!!! nintendo has come out with 12 Systems including the revolution and the GB micro, and Sony has come out with *retarded voice* one...two...three...four. that was the head of Sony by the way, thanks for coming by you! go back to the asylum now!! I curse you now!! I will never leave this thread!!! I will post tiny facts about nintendo regularly!!! muhahahaha!! you have been cursed by the nintendo fanboy!!!

[Kurosaki]

There are two ways to look at it, either Nintendo making different products just to be different, or Nintendo making different products to be better. 'IMO' justified that I was looking at it from my perspective.
Joking!
I just don't know why that was listed as a feature...
That's not being original, that's using proprietary technology in an unforgivable case. Exactly why would someone buy an official Revolution keyboard when they could just plug their own?
And in the midst of all of that sillyness, it's not even completely wireless?

Why extra features will the Revolution utilize by not supporting connections we already use?
What about people with really long arms!?!?! :P

Seriously though, refer to the point just above this for my reasoning.
I have long arms FYI, XD
I always though wireless was defined by the fact it isn't plugged into the actual console. Then again, I'll probably lose this thing as easily as my TV remote, XD

Edit: Swizzler, that was definately UNEEDED. Your thread was closed because 1) It was in the wrong forum, and 2) Because theres this one already. For that post, you're recieving a warning.

[Swizzler121]

i'm sorry, just telling the truth.

[Kurosaki]

Yes, but I also like Nintendo, as I've stated in a previous post. Both companies have their ups and downs. However, this thread is about the Rev controller, not Sony.

Edit: And you editted the Sony part out of you post, I see. It may be the truth in your eyes, but please express it in a more mature manner.

[Swizzler121]

I know, I just become alot harsh when someone says sony is better at nintendo at anything, you should of see me this one time when some one said... (Shudders at continuing) sorry! but the contoller is better than you think, Zero ex, you should really see the video!

BTW: I have edited the above post, I have cooled of and realized that I was alot harsh. wow, I got my first warning, darn.

[John Denver]

90% of the people who posted in this thread need to get a life...

"OMG Nintendo is perfect no matter what!"

"OMG Nintendo sucks no matter what!"

Seriously, whens the last time people had an opinion of their own instead of just swaying the way of the fanboi. This new controller for the revolution, I really don't like the look of it, and seeing as most gamers are mainstream (meaning they go buy games based on graphics/titles/esrb ratings) this controller won't sell very well. Yes, I know it's Nintendo. Nintendo happens to be my favorite game company, and I love nintendo. But anyone with half a brain knows that Nintendo is in a HUGE slum right now in gaming. I really hate it when nintendo fanbois won't even admit to themselves that nintendo could possibly be doing bad right now...

Love nintendo...hate the controller (for now)...and that's me...

[DragonTrainer]

That controller is so friggin ugly >>

[Swizzler121]

What is it with looks these days, I mean, Who cares what it looks like, To me, this controller will get gamers more in-tune with the game! In the video did you see how much they were moving? they were becoming more involved in the game!!! that is exactly what this contorller will do!! I was complaining about the PS3's handle bars because they seem uncomfortable in the only way you can hold it (the ex. long handle bars make it so you have to stick out your elbows, so most of the time, your friend will have your elbow in his stomach.) with this controller, It is a variable how you can hold it, to get what I mean, watch the video!!

@Dakota: name one thing Nintendo did wrong before the revolution.
also, they aren't in a slum in gaming! the games rock! it's called 3rd party! nobody buys the games though, there in a slum of *style* everybodys got to pretty things up nowadays, heck, I would buy the revolution if the cas was a cardboard box!

[Jarman]

Because I felt like adding my opinion, just the same as everybody else. Is there something wrong with doing so? Sheesh. I never even slammed the Revolution itself. I just said I didn't want to look like a complete spazz playing it. Hopefully most, if not all games will come with an option to use the GameCube controller instead, because even though I don't really care for it either, this thing seems to be a piece of tripe.

Oh, and fugly is short for f***ing ugly. It's not a typo.

You won't look like a spazz playing it. You don't have to wave your arms around, just motions of the wrist. It'll be like using a computer mouse.

[Nintendo freak]

Most people here are saying it's gonna be awful. I said that on Serebii. But now, this seems like a great idea, you just have to get used to it. And GC controllers can be used, to. Or you could get the nunchuck (sp?) joystick attachment, like in the pictures. This controller will add a more realistic feel to the games. The only problem will be button mashers.

[TRIFORCE89]

Easy people, take it easy. Yes for the controller, no for the controller, and why.

How do all of these trheads always turn into a Nintendo vs. Sony thread? Or how does Sony always get brought up when it's irrevelent to the discussion in the first place.

Do you think the controller is good, or not. That's all you have to say.

I see this controller as being like the DS's touch screen. It makes your TV like the touch screen and you use the point within this controller like a stylus. And because of this it will probably sell the same way as the DS. Incredibly well in Japan where they're open minded, and only very well here (or less). I don't think it will appeal to the gaming market here very well, mainly because of the movement involved.

[John Denver]

@Dakota: name one thing Nintendo did wrong before the revolution.
also, they aren't in a slum in gaming! the games rock! it's called 3rd party! nobody buys the games though, there in a slum of *style* everybodys got to pretty things up nowadays, heck, I would buy the revolution if the cas was a cardboard box!

I'm sorry, but I don't argue with fanboys, seeing as you'll simply ignore every correct thing I say.

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I don't think this peripheral will sell well (in america, I dunno about Japan). It could, very well, be the greatest controller every invented, but I don't think it will sell well simply because of its style, and by American Media standards, style is everything.

[Sana]

It's interesting and unique; I'll say yay for the controller for now, since I haven't used it yet xP.
I'm looking forward to trying it out ^^;;

[LeaderMarina]

I'm not going to pass judgment until I've actually used it. Right now I'm just being optimistic. I have faith in Nintendo. I'm sure it'll find some way to do this right. But I have to admit, my first impression was: "Nintendo, you're an idiot." That was before I actually read what it could do, so I'm just going to wait and see.

[Arcanine]

Sony never leeched off them. I'd much rather say Ninty leeched off Sony! SNES Playstation was a joint project, each company was to blame for it's non-existance. I would give out some stuff Sony took from Nintendo. But David done said it best.
"It honestly doesn't matter what we say to you anyways, no matter what you'll think up some excuse to why Nintendo products suck compared to Sony, yadda yadda."

To people who are worried that it's too different from a regular controller, Nintendo will also be releasing a slide-on peripheral that will slide over the "remote" controller to give regular button layouts for playing games that best suit them. :)

In an interview with a Nintendo representative:
"The thorny issue of how games not designed specifically for the Revolution - multi-platform titles - will be played. He had the answer: "We're producing a classic-style expansion controller, based on traditional designs like the Gamecube controller. It's like a shell with a hole in the top into which you slot the freehand-style controller, and then you can play third-party ported games, and retro Nintendo games you've downloaded."

Even better, while it's inserted into the classic-style shell, the freehand controller will still be able to sense positioning, bringing more options to classic games."

I say don't knock it til' you've tried it ^_^ I think it has a lot of potential and can't wait to see it in action with a real Revolution game!
Well, my opinions pretty much stand as the same as Triforce89's, but here's a picture of the Wavebird like shell of the remote for those who have not seen it yet.

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/651/651559/understanding-the-revolution-controller-20050916041026412-000.jpg

This is something I was really looking for. When I was reading FG's post and the link in Bayleef's post I loved it. I mean I was going "Sure, I could give a shot at SSBR with the new contoller" but looking at Bayleef's pic (I know it's a fake IGN pic, but looking at FG's post it sure looks like they will have something like that). It's way better then I hoped for, I can play first person shooter games and shoot, not just move the crosshair around and shoot that way. I can play Star Wars or Legend of Zelda games and get to swing the sword to fight. And looking at the image and FG's post I will be able to play the old style when they have an expansion controller. After getting all of this, I love the Rev more then ever.

That's not being original, that's using proprietary technology in an unforgivable case. Exactly why would someone buy an official Revolution keyboard when they could just plug their own?
And in the midst of all of that sillyness, it's not even completely wireless? You don't have to buy an offical Revolution keyboard? You have forgotten this. The Rev has 2 USB ports on it. So if you want to use your keyboard by all means go ahead.

This new controller for the revolution, I really don't like the look of it, and seeing as most gamers are mainstream (meaning they go buy games based on graphics/titles/esrb ratings) this controller won't sell very well. If you read my long post in my Nintendo FanClub you would have seen this
"I think Nintendo is taking the right road with this. As of right now most games are looked at as good because of the graphics. I saw Kill Zone on the PS3 and I was shocked, it had killer graphics. But the thing is, if games are only as good as the graphics then we're done for in the gaming stuff. I don't see the graphics getting much better then they are now. If it was just for graphics then I say we got 1 maybe 2 gens left before graphics won't get any better. What happens then? We stop playing games and just leave it at that?"
True, most people will look at this and think it sucks. But if everything went on looks then why is everyone talking about the PS2 and 360 spcs better then the Rev's?

Yes, I know it's Nintendo. Nintendo happens to be my favorite game company, and I love nintendo. But anyone with half a brain knows that Nintendo is in a HUGE slum right now in gaming. I really hate it when nintendo fanbois won't even admit to themselves that nintendo could possibly be doing bad right now...Half a brain? Did you know you only use around 10% of your brain? XD
No matter what you say D, Nintendo isn't in a "HUGE slum". I don't know where you're getting that at.

I see this controller as being like the DS's touch screen. It makes your TV like the touch screen and you use the point within this controller like a stylus. And because of this it will probably sell the same way as the DS. Incredibly well in Japan where they're open minded, and only very well here (or less). I don't think it will appeal to the gaming market here very well, mainly because of the movement involved. I have to agree, it's like the gaming market outside of Japan is closed minded. Even looking at this thread I can see it. Most people thought (and still do) that the DS sucked because of the touch screen without even trying it.
But I look at it this way, the contoller is strange enough and new enough for people to look into it and buy it just to try it. I would want to try something new in games. I look at the PS3 (that I'm getting BTY) and the 360 and I see something that is old. Same old controller looks, same old type of games, same old online stuff. But with the Rev I see something new, new controller looks, and new ways to play games, new ways to use different controllers for different games, downloading old games, Wi-Fi etc.

[TRIFORCE89]

""I think Nintendo is taking the right road with this. As of right now most games are looked at as good because of the graphics. I saw Kill Zone on the PS3 and I was shocked, it had killer graphics. But the thing is, if games are only as good as the graphics then we're done for in the gaming stuff. I don't see the graphics getting much better then they are now. If it was just for graphics then I say we got 1 maybe 2 gens left before graphics won't get any better. What happens then? We stop playing games and just leave it at that?"
Heh...I still don't believe for a second that Kill Zone was real time, even after seeing MGS4 (which I do know and believe is real time). Something about Kill Zone irks me, the camera angles or something. I dunno.

Anyway... I think I see a problem with the Revolution controller. What about left-handed ness? They semi-solved this with the DS, but now they took a step back. I'm not left-handed but I'm worried about Zelda games. Link's left handed. It'd be weird swinging your right hand to control a sword that the character you're controlling is holding in their opposite hand. Zelda aside, the control stick add-on doesn't look like it'd be that comfortable in the right hand due to it's shape.

[Draik]

Yes, what about left handed? I myself is left handed XD.
I am looking forward to this, the controller doesn't even bother me. I don't mind at all, I infact like it, it's unique ^^

[Zero ex]

HOW DARE YOU!!!!!! YOU THINK A ****-**** *** TOY IS BETTER THAN A COMPLETLY ORIGONAL IDEA! ALL THEY DID WAS MAKE LONGER HANDLES!!!! OHHH THEY REALLY HAD THINK HARD ON THAT ONE!!! GUESS WHO MADE POKEMON??? WAS IT CRY BABY, NO CARE FOR THERE CUSTOMERS SONY? NO!!!! IT WAS THE ONLY COMPANY WITH A SYSTEM THAT IS COMPLETELEY COMMITED TO SERVING YOU!! SHOVE THAT UP YOUR ****-**** *** TOY!!!




here's a link to the video, from what I read,(which was the first post) is here:THE MOST REVOLUTINARY CONTROLLER!!! (http://http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=1656)

Zero ex, From what I read you didn't even tell what the controller does!!! It uses wireless technology and full movement technology to make it so your constantly moving, now that's revolutionary, much better than those retards at sony!! that's whos working at sony, they just bumped into the gaming industry like nobodys business. And don't even say Microsoft did that, they have been making computer games forever. The gaming industry is not something to just show up in!!! Nintendo is not new to this world! They saved the word of gaming by coming out with the NES (Nintendo Entertainment System) They Have been the ones to make revolutions before!! Sony has done Diddly squat!!! nintendo has come out with 12 Systems including the revolution and the GB micro, and Sony has come out with *retarded voice* one...two...three...four. that was the head of Sony by the way, thanks for coming by you! go back to the asylum now!! I curse you now!! I will never leave this thread!!! I will post tiny facts about nintendo regularly!!! muhahahaha!! you have been cursed by the nintendo fanboy!!!




Man I have read, nintendo article, gamespot article, and IGN article. I have seen the video in gametrailers.com. Maybe you are the one not reading. The best console will be Playstation 3, even better than revolution and 360. The only good thing of Revolution is the new super smash brothers and the free online. Thats whay at first i was with nintendo, but when they show the controller, I was angry, yes they make a new futuristic control, but it was a bad Idea.

I was once a nintendo fanboy, but when the Ds got out i get disappointed. (I have my DS since december and i only have one game.) When the psp came out well it was good, it had better games.(MGA, Darkstalkers, etc.) And i still use my psp to hear music. Now the one that uses my DS is my mom.

This is how the consoles will be, at least in what the consoles have. (Not in games,not gaming cuality.)

Ps3>Xbox360>Revolution. (Though i hate microsoft, but it is the truth.)

[Brittany]

You don't have to buy an offical Revolution keyboard? You have forgotten this. The Rev has 2 USB ports on it. So if you want to use your keyboard by all means go ahead. The USB port is on the box, not the controller...

Sitting next to your TV with a controller and keyboard wired to your console is definetly something marking this generation, not the next.
I have to agree, it's like the gaming market outside of Japan is closed minded. Even looking at this thread I can see it. Most people thought (and still do) that the DS sucked because of the touch screen without even trying it.
But I look at it this way, the contoller is strange enough and new enough for people to look into it and buy it just to try it. I would want to try something new in games. I look at the PS3 (that I'm getting BTY) and the 360 and I see something that is old. Same old controller looks, same old type of games, same old online stuff. But with the Rev I see something new, new controller looks, and new ways to play games, new ways to use different controllers for different games, downloading old games, Wi-Fi etc.
Online games hardly met the mainstream market(meaning the average gamers, not 1337 ones) in this gen, aside from sports games, and ofcourse, Halo. For example, comparing the MMORPG players using a gaming console vs a PC is just rubbish, and most big sellers in gaming aside from my examples didn't even have basic online features.

But starting it up in the last generation definetly set the battleground for this one. Maybe the Revolution is the standard for future gaming, perhaps its not just our time. Gamers(aside from Nintendo zealots) are focusing on the improvements they loved from the last generation, not a console providing features that the Revolution is providing us. That's probably why Nintendo is recieving so much unjustifyable crap in your perspective.

At the very least, I think Nintendo is doing the right things the wrong way. If innovations like this were just the sideshow for the console, with the current gaming style leading the way, perhaps Revolution wouldn't be seen as the sideshow in it's entirety. If they could have caught up to gaming standards for their competition, or atleast gotten a little closer, perhaps Sony and MS zealots would be just a little more forgiving.

[Ziggy]

The PS3 looks like a paper shredder and I back swizzler121 and for god sakes the 360's probably gonna win because it actually sounds like a console the revolution is exactly what it says on the box IT'S REVOLUTION-ARY and the ps3's a silver ps2 thats gonna lose sony $100 for every console they sale!! UP NINTENDO!!!

[Draik]

The PS3 looks like a paper shredder and I back swizzler121 and for god sakes the 360's probably gonna win because it actually sounds like a console the revolution is exactly what it says on the box IT'S REVOLUTION-ARY and the ps3's a silver ps2 thats gonna lose sony $100 for every console they sale!! UP NINTENDO!!!
How would you know that?
Anyways, I support all systems, but I'm more of a Nintendo guy ._.
Sure Microsoft is cool and all but I prefer Microsoft making Computers instead of video games.
And the Paper Shredder. Who cares in this world? Looks don't count.

[Zero ex]

How would you know that?
Anyways, I support all systems, but I'm more of a Nintendo guy ._.
Sure Microsoft is cool and all but I prefer Microsoft making Computers instead of video games.
And the Paper Shredder. Who cares in this world? Looks don't count.

Well you are right, console looks doesn't matter. No one cares of the console looks, is like the strangest look was of the gamecube, and it was the best console(for me). What im saying of the PS3 is truth, like it or not. If the nintendo revolution control shell is good, then Revolution will be saved, well i have meet many persons in all the world and most did not like the new control, but the ones that liked it were because they are nintendo lovers(xbox and ps haters.)

[Draik]

I admit, I like the control, it's nothing to be mad about. I find it unique, and a new experince. I somehow look forward to see if the controller is usable or not.

[Barry]

You don't understand the control for those who think it's going to be bad. This is the best control ever created. Everything else is awful, compared to this.

You are really missing the features of the control.

Edit: This video shows a little tiny piece of its many different things. This opens up opportunities for freeform fighting! The reason the people in the video are moving is because they are looking at a tv.. the controller senses movement! So like the girl tipping it up was making Mario jump.

http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/651/651334/vid_1249127.html

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/651/651559/understanding-the-revolution-controller-20050916041026412-000.jpg
That is one of the many attachments available for this incredible work of art.

You can't just look at the controller and judge it instantly..

Also, keep in mind. After the E3 press conference of PS3, they got caught lying. They said their graphics will be as close to real life as possible. They lied. The game they said they were playing wasn't really them playing it. It was all just video as they pretended to play it. (I only brought up PS3 because the starter of the thread made a comment about it).

Edit 2: Though each of the systems has online play, NR's is the only one that will not have extra charges. Meaning you just plug in your eternet cable and you're good to go.

Edit 3: I understand where most of you that dislike this controller come from. You don't like Nintendo so you take a quick glance at it and decide it's terrible. Well this controller at first glance doesn't look so great but after understanding it, it truly is revolutionary.

[Draik]

Wow, I never knew about movement interactivity. This is getting better every time someone makes a positive comment ^^

[Barry]

Wow, I never knew about movement interactivity. This is getting better every time someone makes a positive comment ^^

Yeah, I had a reaction to the look of it. Thinking, "A remote?! Whoa, that's silly."

Even though I'm with Nintendo. Then I realized how it's really used and how incredible it was. I mean think about it, Nintendo's 64 controller seemed weird at first glance but it turned out great. So far as I'm concerned, this is another great step toward defining gaming (since the deffinition isn't definable).

[Zero ex]

You don't understand the control for those who think it's going to be bad. This is the best control ever created. Everything else is awful, compared to this.

You are really missing the features of the control.

Edit: This video shows a little tiny piece of its many different things. This opens up opportunities for freeform fighting! The reason the people in the video are moving is because they are looking at a tv.. the controller senses movement! So like the girl tipping it up was making Mario jump.

http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/651/651334/vid_1249127.html

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/651/651559/understanding-the-revolution-controller-20050916041026412-000.jpg
That is one of the many attachments available for this incredible work of art.

You can't just look at the controller and judge it instantly..

Also, keep in mind. After the E3 press conference of PS3, they got caught lying. They said their graphics will be as close to real life as possible. They lied. The game they said they were playing wasn't really them playing it. It was all just video as they pretended to play it. (I only brought up PS3 because the starter of the thread made a comment about it).

Edit 2: Though each of the systems has online play, NR's is the only one that will not have extra charges. Meaning you just plug in your eternet cable and you're good to go.

Edit 3: I understand where most of you that dislike this controller come from. You don't like Nintendo so you take a quick glance at it and decide it's terrible. Well this controller at first glance doesn't look so great but after understanding it, it truly is revolutionary.


About your edit 3, i have always loved nintendo, but this is the first time that i have got disappointed. (I have seen the videos!)

[ryan]

erm... i was already probably not going to get a revolution (for lack of a lineup) but this pretty much solidifies my decision. the design is pretty much rediculous. i don't want to move a controller... that would make video gaming physical. and we can't have that. (except in ddr and related games)... acutally i've broken a sweat playing marvel vs. capcom 2... but anyway... i like how they're going with the "white with shiny blue" thing. makes it look expensive (white electronics are always expensive... crazy apple)... and the blue accent does kinda suggest that they want to look sophisticated...

[Swizzler121]

only couch potatos don't want games phisical, besides as I said before, this new technique will make gamers more in-touch with their games. no more is it about the characters skill, but the players skill...

@Dakota
I'm sorry, but I don't argue with fanboys, seeing as you'll simply ignore every correct thing I say.

Nah... you just know i'm right ;)

[Chairman Kaga]

The huge focus on motion sensor technology really wrecks the concept of the traditional video game for me...it's been tried before as various peripherals on several systems (ie NES Light Gun, SNES Super Scope, PS2 Eye Toy) and has always been met with limited success. It's not a matter of laziness that makes the controller, and now the Revolution itself, so undesirable, it's just that there is a limit to how much a controller should be able to do and what should define a controller. Games and one's prowess at games revolve around dexterity, which is an equalizer among all types of gamers, but games that involve motion can induce fatigue quickly in some gamers that would otherwise be very skilled at their craft...I, for one, don't want to be up and swinging swords, punching, touching, etc.

I'm disappointed that nintendo managed to turn the Revolution into what is basically a console version of the DS. I couldn't care less about interactivity, in fact I've found it to be hampering to the game experience. I think of the Super Scope and several arcade games I've played that involve swords and guns, as well as test Eye Toys at gaming stores, and I've found that with all of them they don't have complete accuracy; I'm concerned that a device in a controller won't even be able to stand up to what's already out; be angry at me all I want but I have very little faith in Nintendo's ability to deliver something worthwhile at this point. The fact that they haven't even revealed one game for the system makes me wonder if they rushed to make their "innovation", then sat around, puzzled, asking themselves how they could possibly apply this to anything now. I just have no idea whatsoever how this is going to be anything but awkward.

[Draik]

Isn't there a gamecube-like controller?
I hope so, I couldn't really care about interactivity either. I never used the touch-screen...

[Chairman Kaga]

They're promising one, Sykora, but I think it hampers gameplay...or in some unexpected way it may enhance it from the standard Revolution "controller" <_<;

[Barry]

The huge focus on motion sensor technology really wrecks the concept of the traditional video game for me...it's been tried before as various peripherals on several systems (ie NES Light Gun, SNES Super Scope, PS2 Eye Toy) and has always been met with limited success. It's not a matter of laziness that makes the controller, and now the Revolution itself, so undesirable, it's just that there is a limit to how much a controller should be able to do and what should define a controller. Games and one's prowess at games revolve around dexterity, which is an equalizer among all types of gamers, but games that involve motion can induce fatigue quickly in some gamers that would otherwise be very skilled at their craft...I, for one, don't want to be up and swinging swords, punching, touching, etc.

I'm disappointed that nintendo managed to turn the Revolution into what is basically a console version of the DS. I couldn't care less about interactivity, in fact I've found it to be hampering to the game experience. I think of the Super Scope and several arcade games I've played that involve swords and guns, as well as test Eye Toys at gaming stores, and I've found that with all of them they don't have complete accuracy; I'm concerned that a device in a controller won't even be able to stand up to what's already out; be angry at me all I want but I have very little faith in Nintendo's ability to deliver something worthwhile at this point. The fact that they haven't even revealed one game for the system makes me wonder if they rushed to make their "innovation", then sat around, puzzled, asking themselves how they could possibly apply this to anything now. I just have no idea whatsoever how this is going to be anything but awkward.

There isn't a huge focus on movement. That is just a feature they are showing right now to say, "Hey, we've got the buttons as a possiblity, as well as this new thing to attract new gamers." The idea is to make things easier to play which has been accomplished. You all against evidentally just don't get it. As I said (but evidentally no one read), there is attachments to use that are like their older systems to their controllers (just like the gamecube one in my post above.

So if you don't like what's new, then use those and you'll already be used to the controller.

As far as your remarks like "controller", it is very much so a controller. Better than any others. You just don't understand it. As I've said, at first glance, "Oh it's just a remote." But it's far more and will rule over the other gaming platforms.

[Chairman Kaga]

There isn't a huge focus on movement. That is just a feature they are showing right now to say, "Hey, we've got the buttons as a possiblity, as well as this new thing to attract new gamers." The idea is to make things easier to play which has been accomplished.

Yes, the movement control is there as a possible option, but I have a feeling that Nintendo promised everyone when the DS was announced that the touch screen would only be there "just incase", but instead the whole system revolves around the secondary feature...I think Nintendo is going to run headlong into this and forget that the system itself should affect what games they produce for it, not the controller.

You all against evidentally just don't get it. As I said (but evidentally no one read), there is attachments to use that are like their older systems to their controllers (just like the gamecube one in my post above.

I do get it, I just don't like it. There's a difference between not understanding and simply having a preference. The attachments will definitely be a plus but motion-centric games (and probably all their flagship games will be motion-sensor heavy to force people to get used to it) will be almost unplayable with the gamecube-style controller.

As far as your remarks like "controller", it is very much so a controller. Better than any others. You just don't understand it. As I've said, at first glance, "Oh it's just a remote." But it's far more and will rule over the other gaming platforms.

It's alright to be optomistic, but it's kind of hard to say that a strange and unconventional controller will surpass two more orthodox and tested designs in quality from sight alone.

I love Nintendo as much as anyone, I've suffered as much as anyone for my patronage...I just want to make sure that they're not digging their own grave, which they seem to be on the fast track to doing at this point...

[ryan]

they're like using a pnumatic drill to dig their graves... anyway, i was reminded by this whole "motion" thing of kirby's tilt and tumble. that was probably the most frusterating game i have ever played... and, like kaga said, nintendo will like to show off all of their fancy features and make their games dependent upon such needless attributes... i don't ever want to play a game like tilt and tumble again... i won't do it! *pouts in the corner hugging his ps3 controller*

[Arcanine]

A lot of you are missing the point. Yes I see that it will get tiring to move the controller around all the time. And I myself wouldn't like it if I had to do it with every single game out there. Doing day and night over and over and over will kill me. But read FG's post, look at the IGN mock-up pic (to all of you that thinks that is a real controller, it isn't. It's IGN's mock-up of what Nintendo said they will do). I'm betting most games won't have the feature for the moving controller thing (Kaga has a point in saying Nintendo might run out there and make every single game revolve around that remote controller. But unlike the Rev the DS was just a side system to kill sells of the PSP. The Rev is Nintendo's next gen system so I would think they are putting work into it to make it top of the line). More or less just shooting games, flying games, Mini-Games, music stuff, maybe a few sword games, and a few other type of games. You still got the RPGs, fighting games, SSB game, racing, all the different type of sports games (right off the top of my head them are 5 different types of sports games) and lots of different types of games I can't think of right now. And how many of them shooting games, flying games etc will use the standard controller (like the mockup IGN pic). For all we know in the games it might have a option to switch from Stantard-Controller to Expansion-Controller. Where if you don't want to swing a sword all day you can just tap a button for that.
All I'm saying is, right now my point of view, you get the best of both worlds. If you love first person shooters this is for you, if you love fighting games and SSB then this is also for you.
I think before everyone pass judgement on it on not to get it you should try it first, and wait till Nintendo lets out a little more info on it. Only then we will be able to say for sure if we are going to get it or not (I'm going to get one anyway, I don't care if it's like the NES controller and is in 2D, just like I'm going to get the PS3 even if it turns out to be a game/grill system).

[Swizzler121]

thank you arcanine, that statement rocked.

[Crystal Clair]

Well this actually interests me.
It's been years since I thought on investing some of my large allowance on a gaming console that wasn't a handheld. Then I saw this new control and I was just curious.
I'm going to give this new controller a chance just like I did the new English Pokemon opening XD. It doesn't hurt to try. But then there's that opposing saying "better safe than sorry"
it just depends on your view of things

[Brittany]

A lot of you are missing the point. Yes I see that it will get tiring to move the controller around all the time. And I myself wouldn't like it if I had to do it with every single game out there.
This is just another step in the sucession of lightguns, dance mats, eyetoys, and more in the category. The only difference is, this is what they're basing the console around. The new features aren't much of an option, they're the succession to original gameplay. The fact of the day is, with the Revolution, traditional gameplay has become what used to be the minority gameplay-wise.

Its either...
-Traditional gameplay being the focus with [insert funky, exotic, weird, new, etc here] gameplay being the sideshow.
or
-[insert funky, exotic, weird, new, etc here] gameplay being the focus, with traditional gameplay being the sideshow.

So we're not missing the point, we've just chosen which option we prefer. And I think it's rubbish to think they would be able to integrate one into the other without annoying gamers, but we have yet to see how skilled Nintendo is at pleasing both audiences.

[John Denver]

Seriously, it's not cool to be a blind fanboy, it's just annoying. To just ignore facts simply because you love a company so much.

I don't care how much of a fan of Nintendo you are. Nintendo controls 10% of the console market...10%!! Compared to Sony's 50 and X-box's 20ish? How is that not a slum?

Nintendo prides itself on being original, but there IS such a thing as being too deviant. Nintendo needs to focus it's primary base on the primary consumer. They need to make the mainstream gamer AND the hardcore gamer happy. If this is their idea for the next generation of Nintendo...I'm not down with that...

[Zero ex]

Seriously, it's not cool to be a blind fanboy, it's just annoying. To just ignore facts simply because you love a company so much.

I don't care how much of a fan of Nintendo you are. Nintendo controls 10% of the console market...10%!! Compared to Sony's 50 and X-box's 20ish? How is that not a slum?

Nintendo prides itself on being original, but there IS such a thing as being too deviant. Nintendo needs to focus it's primary base on the primary consumer. They need to make the mainstream gamer AND the hardcore gamer happy. If this is their idea for the next generation of Nintendo...I'm not down with that...

All what Dakota have said is truth, like it or not.

Plus what they said of the scope and the gun of nes and snes. Yes they were cool, but you easily got bored with that.

[Brittany]

And that's just another huge point. Because Nintendo controls so little, is conforming to gameplay that a very select few will enjoy really keep Nintendo going?

Many posters here argue that they'll still keep original gaming implemented via controller attachments(which you may have to pay for), but then where's the Revolution? And if they became dependent on this, MS and Sony have already gotten control of this market, so what's really going to boost Nintendo sales to even get past this gen?

[Arcanine]

Seriously, it's not cool to be a blind fanboy, it's just annoying. To just ignore facts simply because you love a company so much.

I don't care how much of a fan of Nintendo you are. Nintendo controls 10% of the console market...10%!! Compared to Sony's 50 and X-box's 20ish? How is that not a slum?

Nintendo prides itself on being original, but there IS such a thing as being too deviant. Nintendo needs to focus it's primary base on the primary consumer. They need to make the mainstream gamer AND the hardcore gamer happy. If this is their idea for the next generation of Nintendo...I'm not down with that...I'm a Nintendo FanBoy. And I do give out facts on why this controller is going to rock.

The GC has came in last in this gen's race. But it's sells wasn't that far off of the X-Box's sells (the PS2 came out a year before so you can't really count that). Yes both Sony and Microsoft has a larger market. The X-Box is a new system, and Nintendo did kind of do poorly on the GC (it would have been better off with a DVD player), I think it would have been better for them to have the standard sized CDs. And I can't really think of something new out of that system. And you have to remember, back in the days of the NES and SNES there was only 2 big console makers out there. Nintendo and Sega (and back then Nintendo owned the market). And as soon as 2 new console makers pops up and pulls in more sells then Nintendo everyone goes "OMG Nintendo isn't big anymore and it's going to hell". And you know good as well Microsoft's X-Box wouldn't be half as big if it wasn't for Halo. That is like the only thing pushing the X-Box and the 360. If they didn't have that then I couldn't see them lasting all that long.
And I might add that Nintendo owns the hand-held market. The DS has more sells then the PSP, and the GBE should be out sometime in 06 or 07 (GameBoys is Nintendo's real hand-held pusher).

If you like the GC style controller then buy a controller shell. If you don't like the remote style and you also don't like the normal style then what do you want to use? A mouse?
I don't see what's the over the top big deal downside about the controller. It's going to have a shell and it's going to be no different then the 360 and PS3 controllers (as in 1 normal controller that everyone has been using since they were a kid and got their first game system). So what's wrong with it? The only thing I see wrong with it is making people jump the gun and think it's a crazy idea when they first see a pic of it. And it's going to do it too. You'll have people that looks at it and doesn't read up on it and will just brush it off as something crazy when it isn't. It's just something new, and people is going to be ify at first. Like they were with the analog sick or CDs or hand-helds etc. Are we always going to stick with the same old stuff and never try to make games and systems and controllers better? If you think that way then we shouldn't be using CDs, we should be using cartridges. We shouldn't have 3D games, we should be back to the old 2D ones. We shouldn't have analog sicks, we should only use the D-Pad. We should go back to the days of the 8 bit games, and not the 128+ bit we have now.

What happens if Nintendo succeeds in making the next way in gaming. And just blows way them two in sells (I don't think it can beat the PS3 because you got all them nuts that just goes by power, and the 360 has a head start). And Sony and Microsoft does what Nintendo has done. What then? You going to quit gaming? Nintendo has came up with lots of great ideas that has lasted and has made it's way to other systems. I'm not saying they wouldn't have thought of it, but Nintendo came out with it first. This might just be the next thing Nintendo came out with that adds a spin on gaming and might change the way we play games in the future.

I think this might be my last post in the thread. Because if you guys have read all my posts and is still not open minded about the controller then there isn't anything more I can say.

[Swizzler121]

ohhhh...Dakota,ryan,Zero ex,Kaga, I think it's time you bow to the winner of this debate: Arcanine!!! He can really dish out the facts! Zero, since you were pounded with awsome facts already, your curse is lifted! Go Arcanine, he's the winner, he provided facts, you provided squat, he's the winner, he's the winner!

[Barry]

The PS3 is seriously going to be the worst system (not by sales but by attributes). It's full of crap. I don't expect it to improve on the PS2 by much at all so people who plan to buy one, just remember me and you'll feel stupid after you see that the only improvement is graphics (which won't be great because they lied about it).

You guys should now understand. Nintendo is indeed reinventing the way we play games while the only competition just sticks with what works with slight graphic improvement. I mean, an admin is going to know what they are taling about and they just said basically what I did.

Arcanine, the reason the Gamecube wasn't the greatest was because their focus was to improve gameplay, not the system itself.

[Swizzler121]

Wow, I belive I said that earlier, let's have a flash back shall we?
(funny lights fill the room as we enter the flashback!)

they aren't in a slum in gaming! the games rock! it's called 3rd party! nobody buys the games though, there in a slum of *style* everybodys got to pretty things up nowadays, heck, I would buy the revolution if the case was a cardboard box!

Also adding onto what Barry said, because the PS3 is full of "Crap" The loading time will probably be the worst con, also if you have been studing on the internet, part of their system doesn't even exist yet!
they are still trying to develop two crucal parts of their system called Blu-Ray, It is the format of disk that they are using to play in HD And Their Cell processor don' exist yet. here is a quote with a souce to prove it: Cell processor and blu-ray dont exist yet

http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_PlayStation_3/4514-6464_7-31355103.html
Frag Daddy - May 19, 2005

I present my first disadvantage! (I Debate so I know this stuff, if It was earlier, I would write up a case!)

[Brittany]

The PS3 is seriously going to be the worst system (not by sales but by attributes). It's full of crap. I don't expect it to improve on the PS2 by much at all so people who plan to buy one, just remember me and you'll feel stupid after you see that the only improvement is graphics (which won't be great because they lied about it).
Okay, that's full of crap. Only so much can be done to graphics because of the Cell, that doesn't mean it won't be able to provide photorealistic games, but achieving the level of realism developers are willing to work for in this generation won't take up all of the system's resources.

So what is the rest of it taken up by? By multitasking other things, like AI, dynamic weather/growth systems, providing better control over sound, letting events that take up multiple passes just jump from one core to another, and there's alot more. I'm not saying that it's 'better' than the Revolution, because that's your opinion, but it is capable of alot more than the Revolution, traditional gameplay-wise.I'm a Nintendo FanBoy. And I do give out facts on why this controller is going to rock.

The GC has came in last in this gen's race. But it's sells wasn't that far off of the X-Box's sells (the PS2 came out a year before so you can't really count that). Yes both Sony and Microsoft has a larger market. The X-Box is a new system, and Nintendo did kind of do poorly on the GC (it would have been better off with a DVD player), I think it would have been better for them to have the standard sized CDs. And I can't really think of something new out of that system. And you have to remember, back in the days of the NES and SNES there was only 2 big console makers out there. Nintendo and Sega (and back then Nintendo owned the market). And as soon as 2 new console makers pops up and pulls in more sells then Nintendo everyone goes "OMG Nintendo isn't big anymore and it's going to hell". And you know good as well Microsoft's X-Box wouldn't be half as big if it wasn't for Halo. That is like the only thing pushing the X-Box and the 360. If they didn't have that then I couldn't see them lasting all that long.So basically, are you saying 'Sony didn't pwn Ninty because they came out a year earlier', and 'MS didn't pwn Ninty because of Halo' ?

Aside from that, you argue that Nintendo will pick itself up because two competitors provoked them to do it in the past, so history will repeat itself?

Okay, I'm hoping we can gain an understanding here. Sony controls the market. Because Nintendo is making a console like the Revolution doesn't mean everyone's going to hop on their little wagon this time around.
And I might add that Nintendo owns the hand-held market. The DS has more sells then the PSP, and the GBE should be out sometime in 06 or 07 (GameBoys is Nintendo's real hand-held pusher).And GBE has exactly squat to prove it's existance?
What happens if Nintendo succeeds in making the next way in gaming. And just blows way them two in sells (I don't think it can beat the PS3 because you got all them nuts that just goes by power, and the 360 has a head start). And Sony and Microsoft does what Nintendo has done. What then? You going to quit gaming? Nintendo has came up with lots of great ideas that has lasted and has made it's way to other systems. I'm not saying they wouldn't have thought of it, but Nintendo came out with it first. This might just be the next thing Nintendo came out with that adds a spin on gaming and might change the way we play games in the future.
The shell is an option, not the focus. Why buy it just to gain what we already had, and be left with a console doing less? If you use the shell, Nintendo has suceeded in creating a console less powerful than the others with no Revolution at all.

And really, it's complete rubbish to think this would be accepted as the next wave in gaming, with the hate it's recieving in forums all over the net, and how it doesn't have a stable foundation to build on.
I think this might be my last post in the thread. Because if you guys have read all my posts and is still not open minded about the controller then there isn't anything more I can say.
Sorry, but that's kinda good. You repeatedly say we're missing the point, or something to the effect, but we're not, we have our own opinions, and many of us are being open-minded about it, but the possibilities aren't endless, they're extremely limited.

And that limitation is fine if you'll love the gameplay, or just happen to be a fanboi thinking it's the best thing since sliced bread.

[Kaede-chan]

Alright, and it's true that anywhere entitles you to your own opinion, and that if anyone posts about something you're likely to be rebuttled or piggybacked? I'll do both.

Arcanine says: The X-Box is a new system, and Nintendo did kind of do poorly on the GC (it would have been better off with a DVD player)

Arcanine, I'm not sure it even needed a DVD player. ^^;;

Barry says: Arcanine, the reason the Gamecube wasn't the greatest was because their focus was to improve gameplay, not the system itself.

Yet I'm very sure I liked that focus, though the GCN did have its failing points. The focus on simple gaming would go uninterrupted if it weren't for what's now becoming a necessity, such as online play and DVD playing. =\

Brittany says:Okay, I'm hoping we can gain an understanding here. Sony controls the market. Because Nintendo is making a console like the Revolution doesn't mean everyone's going to hop on their little wagon this time around.

What evidence is there that they control the market? All I've seen is their attempts at monopolising the market.

[Johto Boy]

I for one like the controler. And making a shell for it is going to make it a lot better. I think that Nintendo is going to do better this gen than last. Why? Mostly because of the outragous prices of the the other systems. And Nintendo is a "huge slum"? Wrong. In consoles they are suffering, but they own the portable market. The DS is selling amazingly well, especially in Japan. Sony thinks they can take over the portable market, but Nintendo is whipping them. Anyway, I wasn't all that excited about the touch screen on the DS, but now I love it, and I think it will be the same with the Revolution. Yes, it is somewhat like the touch screen on the DS, but it do many more things that the DS can't. I can't wait to try it out and see what it is really like.

[Brittany]

'What evidence is there that they control the market? All I've seen is their attempts at monopolising the market.'
That's purely your perspective, the point is, that they have control. If Sony controls big titles like Final Fantasy and Grand Theft Auto, most gamers like Sony. We can't blame it on them trying to monopolize the market, blame it on the consumers who prefer it.

Why did those companies support Sony? Because the machine gave them what they thought was capable for their games. For example, Squaresoft didn't move down to Sony because they thought the PS1 was going to be the best, they did it because CDs and required memory cards could get them the space for game they wanted. Final Fantasy VII could have been on n64 with better graphics, but exactly how many multi-cartridge games did n64 have, and exactly how many cartridges would it take for Ninty to support it? 10, 12? More.

And the truth is, Sony didn't have control over the market in that gen, Square moved on because they wanted an epic adventure that, despite n64's superior graphics and more, wouldn't support it. How many ways do you think Revolution could support a game without doing something that's been done before, just in a way gamer's aren't used to? Very minimal, it all comes down to which style they prefer, and what games are released for each system.

[The S]

You won't look like a spazz playing it. You don't have to wave your arms around, just motions of the wrist. It'll be like using a computer mouse.
Yes, yes it will make me look like a spazz playing it. If one looks like a spazz playing Kirby's Tilt & Tumble and Warioware Twisted (even though those games rock hard), then the Revolution controller will, as well. That GC controller adapter above makes a world of difference, though. Seriously, though, I have as much reason to hate the controller as the others do to like it. I don't necessarily like the design for the Revolution, either (it looks like a disembodied CD-ROM drive), but that doesn't mean I don't like the system itself.

And doesn't anybody ever read my sig? Truer advice has never been spoken.

[Barry]

Yes, yes it will make me look like a spazz playing it. If one looks like a spazz playing Kirby's Tilt & Tumble and Warioware Twisted (even though those games rock hard), then the Revolution controller will, as well. That GC controller adapter above makes a world of difference, though. Seriously, though, I have as much reason to hate the controller as the others do to like it. I don't necessarily like the design for the Revolution, either (it looks like a disembodied CD-ROM drive), but that doesn't mean I don't like the system itself.

And doesn't anybody ever read my sig? Truer advice has never been spoken.
If true advice can't be spoken, then "Truer advice has never been" isn't worth paying attention to because it's not true.

[John Denver]

I'm a Nintendo FanBoy. And I do give out facts on why this controller is going to rock.

Now your not, you're just a hardcore fan. You're not a fan boy cause you actually use *gasp* logic in your posts XD (that ecks dee was just for you)

The GC has came in last in this gen's race. But it's sells wasn't that far off of the X-Box's sells (the PS2 came out a year before so you can't really count that). Yes both Sony and Microsoft has a larger market. The X-Box is a new system, and Nintendo did kind of do poorly on the GC (it would have been better off with a DVD player),

If it had a DVD player, it wouldn't have been so cheap...I'd rather it be inexpensive, but that's just me.

I think it would have been better for them to have the standard sized CDs.

A fanboy wouldn't say that, faboys go "OMG Small CD's are teh ROXOORRS!

And I can't really think of something new out of that system. And you have to remember, back in the days of the NES and SNES there was only 2 big console makers out there. Nintendo and Sega (and back then Nintendo owned the market). And as soon as 2 new console makers pops up and pulls in more sells then Nintendo everyone goes "OMG Nintendo isn't big anymore and it's going to hell". And you know good as well Microsoft's X-Box wouldn't be half as big if it wasn't for Halo.

We all know Halo saved X-box from extinction, but that argument has been beaten over 50 thousand times. To be fair, isn't it true that pokemon saved gameboy?

That is like the only thing pushing the X-Box and the 360. If they didn't have that then I couldn't see them lasting all that long.

I don't like the x-box 360...to be honest, the graphics aren't that much better than the x-box (nowhere NEAR in comparision to something like PS2 and PS1

And I might add that Nintendo owns the hand-held market. The DS has more sells then the PSP, and the GBE should be out sometime in 06 or 07 (GameBoys is Nintendo's real hand-held pusher).

How right you are!! I agree that Nintendo rules the handheld market with an iron fist!...but...it's the consoles that they're slumming in

If you like the GC style controller then buy a controller shell. If you don't like the remote style and you also don't like the normal style then what do you want to use? A mouse?
I don't see what's the over the top big deal downside about the controller. It's going to have a shell and it's going to be no different then the 360 and PS3 controllers (as in 1 normal controller that everyone has been using since they were a kid and got their first game system). So what's wrong with it?

the look of it...I know it looks cool, but it just doesn't look practical (to me)

The only thing I see wrong with it is making people jump the gun and think it's a crazy idea when they first see a pic of it.

It's sad to admit, but the first impression is what makes the most money

And it's going to do it too. You'll have people that looks at it and doesn't read up on it and will just brush it off as something crazy when it isn't.

the mainstream gamer, the primary consumer...Heh, sucks doesn't it...

It's just something new, and people is going to be ify at first. Like they were with the analog sick or CDs or hand-helds etc. Are we always going to stick with the same old stuff and never try to make games and systems and controllers better? If you think that way then we shouldn't be using CDs, we should be using cartridges. We shouldn't have 3D games, we should be back to the old 2D ones. We shouldn't have analog sicks, we should only use the D-Pad. We should go back to the days of the 8 bit games, and not the 128+ bit we have now.

That's fallacy...you can't compare the two

What happens if Nintendo succeeds in making the next way in gaming.

Then life would be better

And just blows way them two in sells (I don't think it can beat the PS3 because you got all them nuts that just goes by power, and the 360 has a head start). And Sony and Microsoft does what Nintendo has done. What then? You going to quit gaming? Nintendo has came up with lots of great ideas that has lasted and has made it's way to other systems. I'm not saying they wouldn't have thought of it, but Nintendo came out with it first. This might just be the next thing Nintendo came out with that adds a spin on gaming and might change the way we play games in the future.

NIntendo is my fav all the way...but I can still admit when I don't like something, unlike other people *coughfanboyscough*

I think this might be my last post in the thread. Because if you guys have read all my posts and is still not open minded about the controller then there isn't anything more I can say.

ohhhh...Dakota,ryan,Zero ex,Kaga, I think it's time you bow to the winner of this debate: Arcanine!!! He can really dish out the facts! Zero, since you were pounded with awsome facts already, your curse is lifted! Go Arcanine, he's the winner, he provided facts, you provided squat, he's the winner, he's the winner!

And you're the fanboy who doesn't add anything good to this conversation...you're the loser, you're the loser.

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OK people listen up...it's fact time! woo hoo!

Sony controls the videogame console market BECAUSE they get the most sells in hardware and software

Nintendo is in a slum in the console market BECAUSE they control the smallest share of the market, 10%

Nintendo still pwns everyone else in the handheld market BECAUSE the gba outsells the PS2, Gamecube and X-box.......combined...

These are facts by the way...You don't have to accept them but, oh wait...YEAH YA DO! *dances*

Oh Nintendo, how I hope you get ahead again in this next generation of consoles...

[Chairman Kaga]

ohhhh...Dakota,ryan,Zero ex,Kaga, I think it's time you bow to the winner of this debate: Arcanine!!! He can really dish out the facts! Zero, since you were pounded with awsome facts already, your curse is lifted! Go Arcanine, he's the winner, he provided facts, you provided squat, he's the winner, he's the winner!

You wouldn't mind providing some facts of your own in a mature way, would you? Basically all I've seen you do is ditto people who are willing to write lengthy posts and pitch your own little "rofl rite on!!1" post in afterward. When I HAVE seen you say anything in this thread, it's been immature and unsubstantiated, so stop with the "lolz j00 l00z!!!!1:dead:" statements and find something real to say.

Arcanine is a great guy with a lot of great points, but you only do a disservice to his points when you go on as such.

[Zero ex]

ohhhh...Dakota,ryan,Zero ex,Kaga, I think it's time you bow to the winner of this debate: Arcanine!!! He can really dish out the facts! Zero, since you were pounded with awsome facts already, your curse is lifted! Go Arcanine, he's the winner, he provided facts, you provided squat, he's the winner, he's the winner!

Yes, arcanine give us some good facts, but you didn't, you have only be depending in arcanine posts, you have not posted something that can support revolution. But you have posted things to take Ps3 reputation, besides, we do not care in your posts, your posts sucks.

Still, i have read tons of articles and i have seen the video. I still do not like the control, and i think the gameplay will cool, but you will get bored of it in few days.

Barry why do you say that ps3 games will be crap. I have seen devil may cry 4 and Metal gear solid 4: Guns of patriots, and they seem to be very cool and what i have only seen of Revolution, is samus standing and her ship.

[John Denver]

You wouldn't mind providing some facts of your own in a mature way, would you? Basically all I've seen you do is ditto people who are willing to write lengthy posts and pitch your own little "rofl rite on!!1" post in afterward. When I HAVE seen you say anything in this thread, it's been immature and unsubstantiated, so stop with the "lolz j00 l00z!!!!1:dead:" statements and find something real to say.

Arcanine is a great guy with a lot of great points, but you only do a disservice to his points when you go on as such.

Thank you...at least someone put it into words...

[The S]

See, what the thing is, is I'm CHALLENGING Nintendo to interest me in the controller. All that I have seen (other than the GC adapter) hasn't impressed me yet.

[John Denver]

I'm just glad you can use the GC controller on the rev *phew*

[Swizzler121]

Sorry, but that's kinda good. You repeatedly say we're missing the point, or something to the effect, but we're not, we have our own opinions, and many of us are being open-minded about it, but the possibilities aren't endless, they're extremely limited.

And that limitation is fine if you'll love the gameplay, or just happen to be a fanboi thinking it's the best thing since sliced bread.

Actually the possiblities are limitless, and you are missing the point, and I'll show you why...

When you think of the revolution controller the first thing that comes to your mind is minigames, and at the beginning of the video that's what they show. Then the anilog attachment comes into play, this broadens the game spectrum with First person games such as metroid, Medal of honor, And 007. THEN you add the controller attachment and it expands it to everything the gamecube can do. that is everything, Depending on how you mix and match, yes, the possiblilites are endless. I rest my case. ;)

P.S. I may be a fanboi, and I may have acted stupid on here before, but that was becase it was late/early and I was on a sugar-high, it wakes me up. But from now on I will be strictly Debater in these forums, unless your supposed to joke around.

[Brittany]

Actually the possiblities are limitless, and you are missing the point, and I'll show you why...

When you think of the revolution controller the first thing that comes to your mind is minigames, and at the beginning of the video that's what they show. Then the anilog attachment comes into play, this broadens the game spectrum with First person games such as metroid, Medal of honor, And 007. THEN you add the controller attachment and it expands it to everything the gamecube can do. that is everything, Depending on how you mix and match, yes, the possiblilites are endless. I rest my case. ;)

P.S. I may be a fanboi, and I may have acted stupid on here before, but that was becase it was late/early and I was on a sugar-high, it wakes me up. But from now on I will be strictly Debater in these forums, unless your supposed to joke around.
The controller may be far superior for FPSs, and they've said that there's a Halo killer in development, but that's about as far as it goes. The controller attachement doesn't guarentee all of those possibilities and more, although it may. As I have said countless times, that will depend on how skilled Nintendo will be at integrating both styles. But seriously, how well would putting the 'remote styled' controller into the shell improve gaming? Think about an action RPG like Kingdom Hearts or Zelda games, what exactly will it do? Racing games using the attachment? Platform gaming? Traditional RPGs and MMORPGs?

[John Denver]

Actually the possiblities are limitless, and you are missing the point, and I'll show you why...

this outta be good...

When you think of the revolution controller the first thing that comes to your mind is minigames,

No, Not really

and at the beginning of the video that's what they show. Then the anilog attachment comes into play, this broadens the game spectrum with First person games such as metroid, Medal of honor, And 007.

That's one genre of game that the controller might work on...one

THEN you add the controller attachment and it expands it to everything the gamecube can do. that is everything, Depending on how you mix and match, yes, the possiblilites are endless. I rest my case. ;)

You gave one example (a poor one) and then you say that if all else fails, you can use the old controller? Endless? Don't think so...

P.S. I may be a fanboi,

whadya mean "may"

and I may have acted stupid on here before,

correct

but that was becase it was late/early and I was on a sugar-high, it wakes me up.

omfg, that's the best excuse you could come up with?

But from now on I will be strictly Debater in these forums, unless your supposed to joke around.

prove it...

Fanboy...You should try finding your own information instead of whoring off everybody elses. Endless possibilities? C'MON, you're just talking out of your rear-end now.

[Allstories]

i think the gameplay will cool, but you will get bored of it in few days.

THE WHOLE POINT OF THE CONTROLLER IS TO PREVENT THAT EXACT IDEA.

[Barry]

Barry why do you say that ps3 games will be crap. I have seen devil may cry 4 and Metal gear solid 4: Guns of patriots, and they seem to be very cool and what i have only seen of Revolution, is samus standing and her ship.
Not games, the system. All of their previews so far have just been video. They can make cinema graphics far better than actual gameplay. I'm talking about the graphics, not the games.

I might get a PS3, just because it will be cheaper than the Xbox 360, I usually get two systems per generation, and I need a system to continue the Dynasty Warriors series. Without that game, I'd just stick with Nintendo.

[Kurosaki]

Actually the possiblities are limitless, and you are missing the point, and I'll show you why...

When you think of the revolution controller the first thing that comes to your mind is minigames, and at the beginning of the video that's what they show. Then the anilog attachment comes into play, this broadens the game spectrum with First person games such as metroid, Medal of honor, And 007. THEN you add the controller attachment and it expands it to everything the gamecube can do. that is everything, Depending on how you mix and match, yes, the possiblilites are endless. I rest my case. ;)

P.S. I may be a fanboi, and I may have acted stupid on here before, but that was becase it was late/early and I was on a sugar-high, it wakes me up. But from now on I will be strictly Debater in these forums, unless your supposed to joke around.
If you're gonna start being a "debater", start debating with some valid points, instead of following your "fanboi" instincts... D said everything that needs to be, and I have to XD!!!! at it... XD

[TRIFORCE89]

The shell is an option, not the focus. Why buy it just to gain what we already had, and be left with a console doing less? If you use the shell, Nintendo has suceeded in creating a console less powerful than the others with no Revolution at all.
So...you're complaining that the controller is so different, yet if they made a "normal" controller it would be a bad idea? O_o How would using the shell, or a "normal" control make it less powerful? We don't know the specs yet (unfortunately, I'm not saying that's a good thing. We should know them by now). How can you (not you specifically) judge what you have not used or compare it to others when you have no information. I have no problem if people don't like the Revolution, say it sucks, etc. As long is they have proof, something to validate their claims. And since their isn't any information, you can't make a claim (on the Revolution anyway, Nintendo market wise and the like - feel free).

I think the shell will be more than just a shell. Excuse the stupid comment, but just sticking the remote in the back wouldn't do anything. You'd press buttons on the shell and nothing would happen. There is more to the shell then being a shell. I see no problem with there being a shell. You said yourself that developers went to the PS1 because it gave them more possibilities and capabilities. So, logically, why wouldn't Nintendo offer other controllers/shells to give developers more possibilities?

I can't see the movement focus being used all the time, or at least being used quite the way it was shown in the video. Having to flick your wrist every 20 seconds to make Mario jump would be annoying and painful. Nintendo is not stupid, it has made mistakes, but they aren't stupid.

Where's this 10% of the market thing coming from? http://nintendoinsider.com/site/EEEFylpkElFffmiBlr.php

[John Denver]

Brittany is sort of an anti-boi...inverse of a fanboy, against Nintendo no matter what...

(unless, of course, she proves me wrong) *crosses fingers*

[ryan]

Well, it does seem a bit weird to release an add on that will just turn it into (essentially) a GCN controller. Especially since it can handle real GCN controllers, (or so I've heard). That would be a sign that Nintendo is aware how bizzar this design is and are trying to cover themselves... That's the way I see it at least.

[Andrea-chan]

Well, it does seem a bit weird to release an add on that will just turn it into (essentially) a GCN controller. Especially since it can handle real GCN controllers, (or so I've heard). That would be a sign that Nintendo is aware how bizzar this design is and are trying to cover themselves... That's the way I see it at least.
The GC controller ports is most likely for GC games. Unless it's like the PS3 where you can have more controllers but they are wired (I hope they do it that way, because I know the PS3 has 7 wireless controllers and I think the 360 has more then 4).

I'm guessing that most Rev games will use the old controller style. For all we know the shell might just be a way to slowly move over to the remote style (or whatever style Nintendo is shooting for) for future systems.

Oh wait, I said I wasn't going to reply to this thread anymore. Oh well, I don't feel like deleting the post. XD

[Chairman Kaga]

So, logically, why wouldn't Nintendo offer other controllers/shells to give developers more possibilities?

Of course a variety of shells and controllers would give developers more possibilities and Revolution patrons more choices, but I doubt that everyone is going to want to buy extra accessories tailor-made to certain games; it raises the price of owning a Revolution and eliminates a fraction of their customers who may not be wealthy enough for such frivolous expenditures. I thought it was low of Microsoft to make the deluxe version of their system $400, eliminating all but the elite and wasteful from being able to afford it, but if Nintendo ends up having a variety of expensive controllers that apply to a handful of games, especially if these controllers are made for flagship titles, it's even lower in my opinion. Standardization is cheaper, I see it as being more attractive to third-party developers, and in the end if what you say is true this may break Nintendo more than the standard revolution controller itself.

[TRIFORCE89]

I can't see a *huge* variety happening. I hypothesize the remote and shell be the primary ones. There will be secondary ones of course, but perhaps in the vain of Donkey Konga or DDR, although I'm sure there will be an increase since the Revolution supports it. I can only see these add-ons being for very, very specific titles. But, I'm onbly guessing. It could (and that would be bad) be the polar opposite.

[Chairman Kaga]

It makes me worry that the rumors of a touch-screen controller turned out to be false (although I would have been more horrified if they were true)...this may indicate that they may have opted for a wide selection of specialized controllers either to bundle with games or to sell separately if the controller is useful for an entire genre of games.

Nintendo is still being so secretive with the Revoultion's particulars that it very well may be the case. None of us were expecting this controller in the first place; this could only be the beginning.

[Alistair]

For all of you who diss the Revolution controller, you have no imagination. I am for the controller for many reasons. One is that you just pick up the controller and play. Also, the controller allows you to get into the game more than a standard controller. For example, you could play baseball, or go fishing, or play golf. The possibilities are almost endless. Using the "3D Detect Effect" (or so I like to call it) you could play games like Tugowar. If you want to play a standard RPG, then just put the controller skin on. It's that simple. I currently play games via Dish Satellite and I find the remote quite comfy. The Revolution controller will probably feel the same (maybe better). This controller expands the horizons of gaming in every aspect. I don't see how a person cou