Oy, sig limits!

[Allstories]

I kinda wanted to point out that the concept of a SIGNATURE seems to have been convoluted in definition over time. Of course, if you want to get really technical, the whole concept of a signature doesn't make sense, since people in reality don't need such extensive clarification as to who someone is, but I think it's perfectly alright to warrant a nice image at the bottom of one's posts, to give oneself a nice sense of personalization when posting.

What I DON'T feel needs to be warranted, however, is a 500 pixel-high onslaught of ugly text, blinking imagery, and dancing, orange whatevers in EVERY SINGLE POST. This apparent leniency in signature restrictions even seems to bastardize perfectly well-kept signatures by adding a MANDATORY, ENORMOUS BLANK GAP beneath them. It just really isn't any fun to read posts from people that appear to be more sig than man. It's ESPECIALLY frustrating reading posts that are one line long followed by such a large signature. As an until-recent Dial-up user, I understand how frustrating viewing this site can be. I don't think adding a scrollbar is helping in that respect. I think it's giving people the idea that "W00T, I CAN MAKE MY SIG AS LONG AS I WANT NOW, LOL, NO ONE WILL CARE X--FREAKING-D".

What's even more annoying is that the gap exists even if I turn signatures off.

I dunno. Maybe it's just me. I've seen lots of strict sig limits before. GameFAQs only permits two lines of text. Another board I go to has a 60x60 maximum avatar size and a strict signature policy (325x60 image or NOTHING AT ALL) and it's probably one of the neatest-looking boards I've ever seen.

But, yeah, long story short: I think the current signature limits might need some re-tooling.

[Kurosaki]

You think 500 is a lot? You shoulda seen the one I editted the other day... XD

However, we don't need to get any stricter with the limit. If you think a sig is too large, report it to a staff member so it will be editted (By this I means it breaks the sig rules).

I'm beginning to get all of these threads involving these kind of threads, where members complain like "It bugs me!", "I think this needs to be changed!", yadda yadda. The majority of PC likes sigs like this, and even though I agree most of them are pointless (I have no problem with large sigs within the limit that are neat, but I despise those messy ones that dont show a single sign of organization), it'll stay the way it is.

[Rukario]

hmmm.. nice point you have there.. we'll soon be upgrading the forum backend and we'll keep in mind your suggestions and so forth..

sigs have always been a sore-spot here at PC and we try very hard to come up with a happy medium for all.

[Arcanine]

To me everything is worked out nicely. The 500x300 limit is good for sigs. I do agree that the little blinking images and stuff bugs me. But if thay want it in there then it isn't breaking any rules.

And PC is PC, not GameFAQ Boards, SPPF, IGN Boards, PE2K (when they were up) or any other forum out there. No forum should be judged by other forums (as in looking at ... and going "it works there so it will work on PC"). It might look nice and clean and might work out there. But not everything works the same on every forum.

[Allstories]

On a humorous note, ten minutes after making this thread, I noticed the thread about the new theme, which, as it would turn out, solved many of the gripes I had with the other themes. THANKS FOR READING MY MIND, GUYS.

[Supreme Edgeboy Max]

Eh? I didn't get the last post.

I'm sure sigs are fine here, and only ones exceeding the limits are edited. The shouldn't be made larger, or smaller, or else, people will die of short-sig-mania or something.

[Kylie-chan]

I might point out that most sigs that obey the limits aren't that big, really. o_O You're probably looking at rule-breaking sigs.

[Supreme Edgeboy Max]

Yeah, just look at mine, or Kylie's. Short, and not too excessive.

[DarkPegasus]

I would have to agree with Allstories. I think that the sig should be limited to 1 or 2 pics.
(but the sig limitations,in size, should be left alone).

[Spectrum]

I agree with Allstories. That's all I'll say, because like most others, I don't care for getting warned or, in my case, perm. banned. Not saying anything, but that's why nobody ever comes forward and complains~

[Supreme Edgeboy Max]

Meh, no way. Sigs are FINE the way they are. A smaller sig is like no sig at all. And that makes it a waste of it all.

[Spectrum]

Meh, no way. Sigs are FINE the way they are. A smaller sig is like no sig at all. And that makes it a waste of it all.
Firstly, that's your opinion, and I respect that, but there's no need to insist that signatures are fine simply because you think so.

Secondly, sorry to say, but your points are poor. A smaller signature would be a lot easier to look at, whereas no signature would be impossible to look at. Get what I mean? Small and non-existant are two very different words.

[Random Plushie]

I must admit that there are sigs out there that are completely annoying, with those flashing lights and un-organization and whatnot.. But really, I think the limits should stay the same.

Wouldn't you think that a lot of people would just complain further if the limits were reduced? =o

[Kylie-chan]

Yup. Some people... well, they obey the rules, but their sigs are still huge... >.< It's kinda hard, you know, to define limits.

Flashing lights hurt my eyes. ;-;

[Supreme Edgeboy Max]

So eh... that makes blinkies bad? No way. Some things are too cool to give up.

Well, so... eh... that reminds me, my sig needs some editing.

[Kylie-chan]

It doesn't make blinkies bad. Some animations are quite subtle. o_O

Oh, and Allstories? Haven't you pointed out about that board before? PC's a little more relaxed. That's very strict. >> And two lines long? -_- Maybe they don't have things like fan clubs, pairings, and such. PC != [insert forum here]. PC = PC.

[Supreme Edgeboy Max]

lol, you're right. GameFAQs is NOTHING like PC. Its more gaming, and this is more fun.

[bna_li]

I like to go to Game FAQs, but it's really way too boring. Why do we have to make a big fuss...

[Supreme Edgeboy Max]

Meh, but thats gaming. Well, Ky did say it, and she's right, that GameFAQs don't have the fun stuff, so they don't want signatures. And anyway, they have around a LOT more people active than here, even if we have more registered members probably. Their people are more n00bish than ours, and they have more posts everyday than here. So its natural they'll wanna disable sigs, but they have 2 lines for member-convinience.

^^;

[Pincushion]

*Gets outs a stick and hits some people*

Blinkies are awesome.


Being Mod of Graphics and photography I obviously like signatures heh, I love the new signature restrictions, and I haven't found any problems with it at all, I do find the forums much neater..but I personally think it doesn't matter if there neat or not...Its the posts that count no?

If we where to shorten the limit then a simple signature with a banner and a few lines "My twin at PC is blah blah whatever stuf here" would then automaticly put it into a scroll bar.and they aint all that pretty; But yes..I disagree. Dinosaur.

[Minako]

Um... I don't really see the problems with blinkies... o.o I haven't really come across any loud ones, though, so what do I know? ^^o

I have seen alot of signatures that look a bit messy or disorganized and whatnot, but I don't really think that putting more restrictions on them will help fix that... It's just the member's responsibility to keep a neat sig. XP

[Kylie-chan]

If I ruled the world, there'd be a rule against ugly sigs. Yet I don't rule the world, and so there isn't. It's not like they're really a problem - just an eyesore. x_x

[Supreme Edgeboy Max]

Meh, what's bad with rulling the world?

Oh well, this topic isn't going anywhere. Sigs are limited and all. Ones larger and/or uglier are killed. ^^;

[Kylie-chan]

Nope, rules still apply. 'Specially now we've got a theme without sig limiting. You just have to scroll to view the ones that are larger than the limit.

[Claire]

The only addition i could think of (along with the image and text since many people manage to still have huge sigs despite being just in the rules) is having an actual area that sigs can take up (i.e. making an image XX wide by XX high, posting that in the rules and then saying 'your signature cannot exceed this length' etc.) since having an actual blank image representing the entire sig length (text and images included) would be more understandable and easier to follow than purely xx text and xx images.

I really don't like it when people clutter their sigs with sprites and little bits of text which make enormous sigs, but since we don't have a total area limit, they are still 'within the rules' ._.

[Supreme Edgeboy Max]

Well, limiting the sigs, ya'll can try that image thing. Show it around, and let everyone compare. Only problem will be that most members would confuse it and think that thats the IMAGE limit, and make some images in that size, and put put them all in the sig.

Meh, that's evil. Torture everyone with long sigs.

[Arcanine]

I wouldn't mind a 500x300 size on the total sig size (images and text) like Claire said. That way, if you see the bars you know your sig is over the limit and should edit it. It makes it simple for everyone to go by and in some cases members don't end up with this really really long sig (even with the bars).

Yeah, just look at mine, or Kylie's. Short, and not too excessive.You might want to take your name out of that post, check the sig rules and check the height of all your images added together. Going by the rules your sig isn't short.

[Supreme Edgeboy Max]

lol, thats true. Then again, a new sig IS under construction... oh well. =P

Lets just say that without the T-Card it'd be perfect, if I apply the 500x300 thing, right?

[Andrea-chan]

lol, thats true. Then again, a new sig IS under construction... oh well. =P

Lets just say that without the T-Card it'd be perfect, if I apply the 500x300 thing, right?Under construction or not. It's over the limit.
And yeah without the T-Card you would be within the limit.

[Supreme Edgeboy Max]

Well that's easy to do.. *takes out Tcard*

So, eh.. I guess someone should close this thread. I have no idea what else could we say to the maker of this thread.

[Freenaturearts]

o_o I feel bad for people with long signatures to, but a signature is only ment to be used for extremly needed perposes:Like votes: And to actualy say who you are in a small tidbit. I learned from being at other forums that people here have a loose action on what you can do with your sigs, I'm working on mine at the moment cause I shouldint even have images like I have in my sig when my avy says enough o.o.

However your banner and things do look nicer now and easier for the eyes ^^,

:edit:
This is what I am use to haveing on other forums like GooseMoose and othe places: 30Pixel Avytar and 80 word limit on sigs O_O I am so happy to be here ^^

[Supreme Edgeboy Max]

Meh well, that's at least better than GameFAQs. Oh well, what's the point of this thread anymore?