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Tsugaru
October 30th, 2005, 02:41 AM
Do male and female pokemon have the same status like attack power,sp.d ect?
or are females weaker? and males stronger or the other way around

Alter Ego
October 30th, 2005, 02:46 AM
Why should females be weaker? You sexist you...XD

They're completely the same, which ones are strong and which ones are weak is determined by their IVs, which are completely random. The difference between males and females only comes into play in breeding, where males pass on egg moves whereas females determine the species of the baby. ^^

Supreme Edgeboy Max
October 30th, 2005, 02:58 AM
DON'T MENTION THAT IN FRONT OF SETO-GIRL! SHE'LL KILL YOU FOR SAYING GIRLS ARE WEAK! =P

Yup, female and male Pokemon are both identical in stats. It only matters if you're trying to get an egg move or something.

Ibuberu
October 30th, 2005, 03:33 AM
Gah dude!!
Females weak?!*grabs bazooka but stops half-way*
I'm over-reacting again...*sigh*
Like the gender ever matters.
Its what's inside that counts.^^
Or for this case-
The Attack,Defense,Special Attack,Special Defense and Evasiness.
Egg moves too.
And the level of the pokemon,don't forget about the levels!!!XD

Fls4eva
October 30th, 2005, 04:35 AM
Females aren't weaker than males.. There're of the same status... The important thing is the way you train it.. Not that sex that matters.. Females tends to have better defence whereas males have better attack...

Sammi
October 30th, 2005, 05:43 AM
It's not male and female that matters, it matters on the nature of the Pokémon if they're stronger or weaker than other Pokémon that are the same. Oh, and IVs and EVs too (although I'm still confused on that >>; ).

devilicious
October 30th, 2005, 07:32 AM
The difference between males and females only comes into play in breeding, where males pass on egg moves whereas females determine the species of the baby. ^^

And the move "Attract" and the skill "Cute Charm"~


But yeah, no diference.

Smarties-chan
October 30th, 2005, 08:00 AM
Do male and female pokemon have the same status like attack power,sp.d ect?
or are females weaker? and males stronger or the other way around
Nope, nothing like that the stats are all determined by the nature, IVs and EVs. The gender only affects breeding (you probaly know it, but I'll tell you anyway: When you breed pokemon the father gives the baby egg moves while the baby will be of the same specie as the father, ditto is an exception though)

jynx
October 30th, 2005, 08:10 AM
Do male and female pokemon have the same status like attack power,sp.d ect?
or are females weaker? and males stronger or the other way around
In GCS onwards, in all games, male and female have the same stats, provided they have the same nature and EVs.

However, in RBYG, stats in sexes do differ.
A male compared to a female in the same species, the male would have higher Attack stats, BUT lower defense stats, than females.

Supreme Edgeboy Max
October 30th, 2005, 09:08 AM
There wasn't sexes even MENTIONED in RBY. =P

devilicious
October 30th, 2005, 02:07 PM
There wasn't sexes even MENTIONED in RBY. =P

Ever traded one RBY Pokmon to GSC?

Faltzer
October 30th, 2005, 03:29 PM
I can explain this normally female are the stronger ones.Since they have GV's
Gender values which they are called are like this:

Pokemon with GV's 1-127 are male,

and 128-256 are Female.

Pokemon with GV's of 0 are Mirage Island pokemon


They differ on a pokemons gender except mirage island.


Andf there are also PV's personality values.Like the Nature of a pokemon.

And DV's

are dynamic values.

Supreme Edgeboy Max
October 30th, 2005, 09:56 PM
Ever traded one RBY Pokmon to GSC?

No? Why..? o_________o;

Meh, there ain't seriously much difference in male and female Pokemon statwise. It only matters for attacks, breeding and egg moves.

Dee Trier
October 30th, 2005, 11:37 PM
How about genderless pokemon like metagross if there are difference between male and female? Beside this is pokemon. Gender doesn't matter except for some skill and breeding.

Dragonfree
October 30th, 2005, 11:46 PM
Look...

In G/S/C, they added genders while still keeping compatibility with the older games. This meant they couldn't add a new value to base the gender on as Pokémon that originated in R/B/Y would have no such vaule, and thus had to base it on a value that was already there. Therefore, genders were determined by the Attack IV. The higher values meant male, the lower values meant female. The other stats, however, could be much higher in the female, or they could be lower.

This meant that a R/B/Y/G/S/C Pokémon would simply be male if it had higher Attack and female if it had lower Attack.

As of R/S, however, they ditched the compatibility with the older games and added a bunch of more values, which includes the number that determines genders.

So yeah.

Supreme Edgeboy Max
October 31st, 2005, 12:49 AM
=P But RBY Pokemon don't count as gendered, or at least to me. In that way, EVERY Charizard from RBY would be male, every Chansey would be male....

And unless Mr.Mime had a lot of Attack strength (Psychic is SP Attack), it'd become a female Mr. Mime... Mrs. Mime... whatever.

kohei
October 31st, 2005, 06:49 AM
In games, they have no difference. But how about if Pokemon was for real?

I assume that for mammal type Pokemon, there would be an alpha-male in a herd, which is stronger than the females of its species.

But for insects... lets say Scyther, I think the female would be stronger, a bit like real praying matis's. Afterall, the female mantis eats the male after they're done mating...

Haha, I sort of went offtopic.

Supreme Edgeboy Max
October 31st, 2005, 07:45 AM
Er what..? They EAT their boyfriends? Now that's what a vampire does. Nice lines for Hallowe'en Kohei. ^^


Well, Mew like I think is a female. But well.. Mew learns all attacks including Attract. What happens when you use it? Its genderless in the game..

devilicious
October 31st, 2005, 09:13 AM
Well, Mew like I think is a female. But well.. Mew learns all attacks including Attract. What happens when you use it? Its genderless in the game..

"But it failed!"

Yeah, I tried it sometime ago.

Hinoshi-chan
October 31st, 2005, 09:19 AM
Do male and female pokemon have the same status like attack power,sp.d ect?
or are females weaker? and males stronger or the other way around


*jaw drops *

i dont belive you have the nerve to even say that O_O im so ashamned in you dude..


ok I belive there is a diffrence between the two genders,
Female have more defensive capabilites
Males have more offensive capabilities
now, in pokemon land, the whole game is sexist , see how many times you see it

Samurai X
October 31st, 2005, 08:24 PM
No, there's no difference ....overall. Though females tend to have a higher defense and males a higher attack. The stats also depend on EVs and IVs.

Tsugaru
October 31st, 2005, 08:29 PM
*jaw drops *

i dont belive you have the nerve to even say that O_O im so ashamned in you dude..


ok I belive there is a diffrence between the two genders,
Female have more defensive capabilites
Males have more offensive capabilities
now, in pokemon land, the whole game is sexist , see how many times you see it Um EhEhEhE if you read my frist propley it says that females weaker and male stronger "Or the other way around"I wasnt being sexist XD,but i agree with u seto about females being more defensive and males ofensive

Supreme Edgeboy Max
November 1st, 2005, 12:47 AM
=P See Matt? Have you read that post by me? Toldja Faith wouldn't like it.

Meh well, there's also one little thing Deviruchi. Does the same happen when another Pokemon use it on a genderless Pokemon?

Eon-Rider
November 1st, 2005, 01:22 AM
Why should females be weaker? You sexist you...XD

They're completely the same, which ones are strong and which ones are weak is determined by their IVs, which are completely random. The difference between males and females only comes into play in breeding, where males pass on egg moves whereas females determine the species of the baby. ^^
He wasn't being sexist. He even said "or the other way around?".
Edit: Woops, I only just saw that Matt already explained...

For the GSC versions, I heard females have more even stats.

devilicious
November 1st, 2005, 06:56 AM
Meh well, there's also one little thing Deviruchi. Does the same happen when another Pokemon use it on a genderless Pokemon?

Yes, I tested it too.
One other thing is that Mew isn't affected by the Cute Charm trait, so it can't be Attracted either.

Supreme Edgeboy Max
November 1st, 2005, 07:02 AM
Yeah, I was going to write something about that too. =P

I believe the same would apply for all other genderless Pokemon. But eh wait, Latias is female, isn't she genderless in the game or something?

devilicious
November 1st, 2005, 07:13 AM
Yeah, I was going to write something about that too. =P

I believe the same would apply for all other genderless Pokemon. But eh wait, Latias is female, isn't she genderless in the game or something?

Not. She is Female in the game, she is affected by Attract/Cute Charm, but she can't breed.

Supreme Edgeboy Max
November 1st, 2005, 07:24 AM
Awh.. that's a shame. So that's why nobody has multiple Latias too.

Oh well, maybe the point of this thread has been proven? How about we let this die?

Alter Ego
November 1st, 2005, 07:42 AM
He wasn't being sexist. He even said "or the other way around?".
Edit: Woops, I only just saw that Matt already explained...

For the GSC versions, I heard females have more even stats.

Actually, 'Or the other way around' still leaves it sexist. It would just be males being discriminated against instead of females. Tsk, let's get clear on the terms here people. The only way not to be sexist would have been to add 'Or are they the same?' But seriously, I thought that the XD was a fairly good indication of that remark not being serious.

But if there were a difference, I'd say that the males have more Attack, females have more Defense formula would be the most accurate because of evolutionary choice. Giving birth to children is hard labour, and as such, those with the greatest stamina would be those least likely to perish in childbirth and be those in the best condition to look after the children after they were born, thus ensuring that their genes would have the greatest chance of going forward. Males on the other hand would probably end up fighting for mating rights, as most animals do today, and as such, the strongest males would be the ones most likely to survive these battles, thus getting their genes spread onward.

Charon
November 1st, 2005, 10:11 AM
Oooo, Alter, you certainly know your stuff. xD

The pokemon stats are all randomised in the earlier games, and in the later games they're decided by natures (among other things) so gender doesn't come into it.

Supreme Edgeboy Max
November 1st, 2005, 10:16 PM
That's the whole thing. Stats of a Pokemon matter on how your Pokemon get EVs, not the gender. =P

Charizard_Fire_God
November 2nd, 2005, 09:51 AM
Nah, tch, genders and pkmn status have nothing ta do with eachother. Neither is stronger, neither is weaker.

Supreme Edgeboy Max
November 2nd, 2005, 09:23 PM
=P That's what I said isn't it?

Heh, then again there IS all those things about the trading from RBY...

Natsuki
November 5th, 2005, 08:31 AM
Well, just like humans, male and female Pokemon share their own bits of strengths and weaknesses. Honestly, females aren't weaker than males...males just seem to be more competetive than most females are. XD But in the Pokemon world, being male or female plays no part in how high their attack, defense, speed etc. are. X3

~Kelsey

Eirikr
November 5th, 2005, 09:43 PM
I always thought
F=^DEF^SDEF^SPEED
M=^ATK^SATK^EVD