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DoomKitty
October 30th, 2005, 11:15 AM
ah, the pokeball, a wonderous device, and lightyears ahead of our technology. but what makes it work? does the light source react to the pokemon's DNA, allowing the pokemon to be caught? what happens inside a pokeball that first catch, making the pokemon be officially 'yours'? what state do the pokemon go into inside the pokeball, sleep? and just how do they fit in there? and the eternal question, can other objects, possibly people, fit inside a pokeball? all these questions... so few answers! i don't have any opinions myself, because i'm just curious! so what do you all think?

Sammi
October 30th, 2005, 12:52 PM
Wow, interesting questions...

I don't quite think it's reacting to the DNA. I mean, Pokéballs are old, and they seemed the same, so I think the original couldn't have worked using DNA (unless they knew about it then, then maybe it's possible o_o).
I bet the the Pokéball has technologies to shrink down the Pokémon, so that they are comfortable in the ball. Since a Pokéball can fit really large Pokémon like Snorlax and Gyrados, it could probably fit anything it wants to.

What I really want to know is if it can catch humans (the DNA thing would make sense here, but who knows? ^^; ).

Which reminds me of a Kids' WB commercial, where they caught Ash in a Pokéball. He was all squished. It was funny. XD

devilicious
October 30th, 2005, 01:16 PM
I think they just shrink them. Inside the Pokéball there might be something that keeps the Pokémon closed there. So, the stronger the ball, the most advanced closing system [Ultra, Master, etc]. Some Pokéball might be damaged inside and let the Pokémon go out without asking [Jessie's Wobbufett, anyone?]

And, agreeing with sammi-san, the Pokéball system IS old. You can see the reference at Pokémon 4Ever.

Supreme Edgeboy Max
October 31st, 2005, 01:02 AM
Right, there was that creaky sealed Pokeball that had a knob to open it with. And in GSC they mentioned something about an Apricorn hollowed out and used as a Pokeball. I don't remember...

I just think it beams the Pokemon into a virtual universe, where the Pokemon's natural home is holograpphyfied. =P

dqle
October 31st, 2005, 04:25 AM
I too believe that. I think that Pokémon are just shrunken when inside Pokéballs. I also believe that they are in a virtual environment that suits the Pokémon's species and/or nature. I do wonder though how Pokémon themselves can get out of the Pokéballs. Remember it's not just Jessie's Wobbuffet or Misty's Psyduck. During one of the first episodes where Ash gets stuck in a snow storm, he and his Pokémon took refuge in a cave in a mountainside. He forced all but Pikachu in their Pokéballs, but somehow, they released themselves, trying to keep their trainer warm. Unless all of Ash's Pokéballs are broken too, I haven't a clue.

If Pokéballs only work on the Pokémon they caught, then why do some trainers freak out when they see Ash, Misty, or Brock about to toss a Pokéball at the trainers' Pokémon? In that case, the Pokéball should bounce off harmlessly (or painfully, depending on how hard the Pokéball was thrown...) without opening up or anything. Unless the producers of the show decide to include info on the story of Snaggers from Colloseum or XD, Pokéballs just don't work on already caught Pokémon.

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And yes, Pokéballs can catch other things than just Pokémon. (well, at least one more thing) In one of the early episodes, Ash tosses a Pokéball at a Pokémon (forget which, but it might be the Manky episode), but instead of catching the Pokémon, he manages to 'catch' one of Brock's riceballs. (called a 'doughnut' back then...) The wierd thing is that the riceball didn't shrink inside the Pokéball. When the ball opened, there was the riceball, same shape and size and all...

devilicious
October 31st, 2005, 07:06 AM
Intersting points, dqle.

In Colosseum and XD the hero used a Snagem Machine, but it just worken on Shadow Pokémon. Maybe when a Pokémon is caught, the Pokéball's rays transform it's DNA, so it can't be caught by another Pokéball. But, let's say, when a Pokémon is transformed into a Shadow Pokémon, part of this DNA modification is removed, making possible for Pokéballs altered with the Snagem Machine to catch them.

Or maybe Pokéballs are emo? O_o

Supreme Edgeboy Max
October 31st, 2005, 07:57 AM
How can Pokeballs be emotion things?

Then again, there is the Love Ball and the Friend Ball. And the Luxury Ball. Those make Pokemon friendlier than usual or easier to catch, have any idea why?

machinegun777
October 31st, 2005, 04:36 PM
I think that um, when you throw a pokeball, it shrinks the target pokemon and then it just fits in the ball. I'm not sure what makes it officialy yours though.

dqle
October 31st, 2005, 04:55 PM
True that the heroes of Pokémon Colosseum and XD used the Snag Machine only on Shadow Pokémon, but that didn't mean that the Snag machine only works on Shadow Pokémon. Thoughout both games, people do explain that the Snag Machine is a dangerously powerful tool; it can be used to capture any of the foe Trainer's Pokémon, Shadow or not. (just try to catch a non-Shadow Pokémon in Colosseum; notice how your partner prevents you from doing so)

And removing sections of DNA can be dangerous. Usually, if you do so, the subject transforms dramatically, if it survives.

Maybe certain Pokéballs have more 'luxurious ammenities' in them. Who knows? And how does the Love Ball figure out how either of the Pokémon's gender??? Man, machines (or acorns) are wierd...

Gyarados Girl
October 31st, 2005, 06:12 PM
With my powers of science fiction, my random guess is... the ball does not contain, but relocate the Pokemon to another plane of existence, and then call them back when jarred open.

When thrown the velocity causes the Pokemon to be called back in front of the ball, however when opened in a motionless state, the object appears to just be sitting inside. (Such as the riceball)

Once again, this is just speculation. :)

Nedrag Terces12
October 31st, 2005, 06:26 PM
The pokeball is quite mysterious, i never did think about it myself. I do think that the pokemon shink. Like the laser is like some shrink ray that shrinks them to fit inside the pokeball. But i really don't think the pokeballs are "broken". I think it's more pokemons' preference based. They could just be using psyduck and wobbuffet as like comedy additions. Also, if wild pokemon can resist being caught, then pre-caught pokemon should be able to squirm out too.

Also explain why the pokemon didn't want to come out of the balls in the episode where ash, misty, and brock were in the mountains looking for fushia gym and ran into the diglet issue. I think it's completely their will as to when/why the pokemon leave/don't leave the pokeball.

And to make things more confusing, how do the pokeballs shrink and enlarge when the button is clicked? Unless there's some special folding metal of some sort, and the inside has to be shrunken even more? It could just be pokemon's way of keeping pokemon. I bet if you ask the producers they wouldn't know how it works either. "Well...uh, it just.....works...(I guess...)" lol.

I'm not too sure if the DNA and all that stuff is significant at all. These are just the kinds of issues that you think it must be too simple to be true, like if the first 10 questions on a test are all "A", then you'd re-think, but actually it's right.

Samurai X
October 31st, 2005, 08:51 PM
Hmm,this is all pretty interesting, all are possible ideas.

If it does have something to do with DNA what happens when you catch a Ditto and then call it back while it is transformed since it changes DNA.

The most plausible theory would be that it just shrinks the pokemon.

I'm just curious as to what it's like inside the Pokeball.

Supreme Edgeboy Max
November 1st, 2005, 12:50 AM
Hm well... I remember in one of the episodes, they showed Misty's Psyduck in the Pokeball. It was a huge grey circle, with Psyduck standing in the middle.

Maybe Serebii has a screenie of that episode..

devilicious
November 1st, 2005, 07:08 AM
True that the heroes of Pokmon Colosseum and XD used the Snag Machine only on Shadow Pokmon, but that didn't mean that the Snag machine only works on Shadow Pokmon. Thoughout both games, people do explain that the Snag Machine is a dangerously powerful tool; it can be used to capture any of the foe Trainer's Pokmon, Shadow or not. (just try to catch a non-Shadow Pokmon in Colosseum; notice how your partner prevents you from doing so)

And removing sections of DNA can be dangerous. Usually, if you do so, the subject transforms dramatically, if it survives.

You're very right in this argument. So maybe, being a little offtopic from Pokballs, people in Orre have a MUCH advanced technology. If you ever find someone in Kanto making a Snagem Machine tell me. I mean, look at Celio. He had to use the natural power of Ruby and Sapphire to make the machine work, while a stupid gang can make a Snagem Machine. Pif.

Let's just say Pokmon have weird DNAs. Look at Ditto. The say he can copy the otehr's DNA even without touching the Pokmon.

Supreme Edgeboy Max
November 1st, 2005, 07:15 AM
Meh well, Ditto can't transform into humans. So there. Then again, how on earth DO the Pokemon use cool attacks without DNA and organs that kind of creates the form of the attack. How does a Charizard "use" Flamethrower? It doesn't open its mouth and it goes "FLAAAME" (okay you get the idea).. 'cause it'd happen every time it opened its mouth then.

I say Pokeballs transport Pokemon into their natural environment in a virtual area that HAS THE MARK OR SIGNATURE OF THE TRAINER THAT CAUGHT THE POKEMON.

Torchic_and_Pichu
November 16th, 2005, 05:28 PM
I once had this funny dream that a pokemon was caught and then it showed the pokemon in the Pokeball and it was like a house. It was weird and funny at the same time. (Yes I do dream of Pokemon. XD)

Dragonfree
November 17th, 2005, 08:36 AM
It makes no sense to me that Pokballs just shrink the Pokmon, considering that when a Pokmon is caught we see it become an orb of red energy inside the ball before it closes. There are no signs that the Pokmon would reform into a shrunken version of its original shape after the Pokball closes.

My theory is that Pokballs use the essence of Apricorns (since according to G/S/C, Apricorns were used as Pokballs in ancient times) which somehow has the strange effect on Pokmon to convert their matter into energy. In this form, the Pokmon are in a dreamy half-conscious state where they don't need to eat and can vaguely hear what is going on around them, even though they don't have any sense of time. Luxury Balls/Friend Balls are designed to be more comfortable for the Pokmon by for example eliminating intrusive sound better. Different kinds of Apricorns are more effective on different types of Pokmon cells - while all Apricorns are effective on normal Pokmon cells, some types of Apricorns might cause a given Pokmon's cells to react more strongly.

Once a Pokmon is caught, the Pokball forms a link with the Pokmon that allows it to recall the Pokmon by simply being pointed at it, and that will work even if the Pokmon has fainted. (Normally, if a Pokmon faints, it will become impossible to catch.) It will also put a tag on the Pokmon that causes other Pokballs to close and refuse to catch it if they're thrown at it; however, that is simply a feature of the balls themselves done because of Pokmon league regulations to prevent theft of Pokmon, and technically anybody with good Pokball-making skills can create a ball that does not have this feature. What the Snag Machine does is disable this feature temporarily from the Pokball.

Impact with the ground is normally what opens a Pokball and allows the Pokmon inside it to come out. However, a strong Pokmon can deliberately cause a Pokball it is caught in to pop open. The Master Ball is the only ball that prevents this completely without trapping the Pokmon inside for good. The balance has to be just right, which is why the Master Ball is so rare.

Fury of Ninetales
November 17th, 2005, 01:08 PM
it seems way too advanced for pokeballs being able to shrink pokemon. The only way that i know how 2 do that is to use a particle accelerator (this thingy that shrinks anything, even humans, to the size of atoms). but that was only a device in a fictional book. besides that, i just guess that satoshi tajiri and Game Freak just never meant to explain how pokemon were caught

Supreme Edgeboy Max
November 18th, 2005, 06:04 AM
Wow... that's some pretty good points by Dragonfree.

But about the other balls being weak, well, I disagree with that. I'd like to believe at this point, that there are some different flaws in the technology. And yeah, like that when a Pokemon does not have ANY will to go with the trainer ... um... it then has the power to break away of the Pokeballs. Like so, the Legendary Pokemon.

QT Plusle
November 18th, 2005, 06:34 AM
I think that the inside of a luxury ball is like the same as a 5 star hotel room - (without room service obiously and like the pokemons natural environment XD) and makes the pokemon like you more because of how comfy it is. The pokemon must turn into red light to get inside, and then transported to a special place. When you press the button to enlarge it, the pokemon has to get ready to battle, so it is transeformed into red light, maybe. And when The red light feels the earth air around it it turns back into the pokemon somehow.

XD Basically, I don't have a clue!

Supreme Edgeboy Max
November 18th, 2005, 07:06 AM
Um.. *imagines Rayquaza using Outrage in that 5-star-hotel room* Ulp. That is.... um, so not what happens. =3

Smarties-chan
November 18th, 2005, 07:21 AM
This is a really interesting question... It probaly teleports the pokemon in another dimensionThen again, there is the Love Ball and the Friend Ball. And the Luxury Ball. Those make Pokemon friendlier than usual or easier to catch, have any idea why?
I am pretty sure the luxury ball is more gentle while it catches the pokemon, making the pokemon feel better ^_^

QT Plusle
November 18th, 2005, 09:11 AM
Um.. *imagines Rayquaza using Outrage in that 5-star-hotel room* Ulp. That is.... um, so not what happens. =3 no! XD as in - it is that nice for them to stay in! I mean, the pokemons natural environment but like five star.XD.

Supreme Edgeboy Max
November 18th, 2005, 09:21 AM
Oooh... an endless stretch of sky for Rayquaza, and a soft fluffy cloud to sleep on. =3

~_~ No. Something like that SOUNDS SO WRONG!

QT Plusle
November 18th, 2005, 09:28 AM
Oooh... an endless stretch of sky for Rayquaza, and a soft fluffy cloud to sleep on. =3

~_~ No. Something like that SOUNDS SO WRONG!
Ok!!! Just an idea! 0-0. And I said It's natural environment - ie. the ozone lair for Raquaza or sky pillar.

Supreme Edgeboy Max
November 19th, 2005, 07:14 AM
=3 Hehe... well, the "natural environment" is an over-used idea for insides of Pokeballs you know.

Um.. a huge tower for Rayquaza to slither/crawl on, and a long drop to the ground before flying... and a nice hard rock bed.... ah.. that's the life. *shakes head* Ulp, that sounds wrong too. =P