What is the hardest pokemon to raise?

[Ducair]

Which do you think is the hardest pokemon to raise?

Wobbafets are pretty grueling; they take freaking forever. (Not to mention Magikarps)!

[DarkThunder]

This belongs in the General games discussion.
I think Shuckle is the hardest to raise because it's attack is low.And I already used the only TM 6 (Toxic) in the game.Not to mention I used up Sandstorm too.

[AdamsPKMN]

Magikarps arn't hard to raise, all you have to do is have it first, then switch it out w/ a strong pokemon. i bought the Magikarp on route 4, and had a gyaradose by the time I got to LT. Surge...although it was useless for that battle...lol

[Happy Dude]

No Pokemon are reallly to hard to raise if you train on the right things and put a little effort in.

[Fl0W:HHGURU]

no pokemon is hard to raise when you have a few EXP.shares equiped onto pokemon in your party. Just go battle the Elite four with your strongest pokemon and the one your trying to train It'll soon gain alot of levels.

[*~Silver~*]

I had the most trouble with my Dratini/Dragonair, just leveling her over all, exp.share and all.

[Dragonite Tamer]

Trying to get a level 5 Larvitar to evolve into a Tyranitar with deccent stats is such a pain.

[shanecdavis]

Aerodactyl, Arcanine, Cloyster, Donphan, Dragonite, Exeggutor, Gyarados, Heracross, Houndoom, Lanturn, Lapras, Mantine, Miltank, Piloswine, Pinsir, Rhyhorn, Skarmory, Snorlax, Stantler, Starmie, Tauros, Tentacruel, and Tyranitar are the hardest non-legendary FRLG Pokes to raise. They all take 1.25 million Exp Points to get to Lv100.

There are some RSE Pokes that are even harder: Breloom, Crawdaunt, Hariyama, Illumise, Seviper, Swalot, and Wailord all require 1.64 million. Now that is tough. Get one of them to Lv100 without Rare Candies or cheating and you have my respect. That is commitment.

edit: spelling

[aragornbird]

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^What he said (also its nice to meet an adult Pokemon player :))

Agreeing with Wobbuffet and Shuckle due to the fact that they can't mow opponents down without taking a lot of time. Also Shedinja (even though levels up very fast) is hard to raise without any back up since almost all Pokemon have something to kill it.


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[Synchronize]

Anything that I would be EV training with a 4/252/252 EV spread is tough for me.

[shanecdavis]

Synchronize, do you have a RSE game, or a friend that does? If so, set up 6 Secret Bases and then put 6 Pokes in each base that give you 3 EV points in each category. Every day you can battle to earn 18 EV points. Attach the Macho Brace and it is 36 points. After 7 days of battles, your Poke will have the 252 EV points.

[Geometric-sama]

That's actually a really good idea, but wouldn't you need six friends, since connecting and swapping data erases the old shared data?

[shanecdavis]

Mixing records doesn't erase old data (pertaining to Secret Bases). That only happens when you mix records with someone who has the same SB location as one you already have. You can have up to 10 SB locations registered, but I am pretty sure you can have more locations. Registering them is what you do when you want to share them with your friends. I think.

Anyway, I have 8 SB locations on my Emerald. Six of them are for EV training. One has six Riachu (3 SPEED EV each), one has six Clefable (3 HP EV each), one has six Shiftry (3 ATT EV each), you get the idea. I just traded some Yugioh cards for a Sapphire game, and so I am going to see just how many SB you can have one game. If I can have 7 locations of each stat, that is going to be awesome. EV training done in one day. I cannot wait to get started!

[Geometric-sama]

Oh, I see. I should try that, then. Thanks for the heads-up!

I find Bagon fairly annoying to train up to a Salamence. Takes too long x_x

[shanecdavis]

The easiest way to train Bagon, is to do your EV training as soon as it hatches. Once that is done, stuff Rare Candies down its throat or give it Exp Share and take it to the E4 a dozen times. If you have Bagon holding Exp Share be your first Poke, and then switch it out to a much stronger Poke, it will earn 3/4 of the Exp points from a battle instead of the normal 1/2 if it wasn't involved in the battle at all.

If you are short on Rare Candies, simply raise a Linoone team up to Lv41. Then, run to Route 102/103 and battle wild Pokemon. Linoone have the Pickup ability, so after a few battles, check your Linoone and a few of them should be holding items. Lv41-49 Linoone give you the best opportunity to find Rare Candies. I have a stash of 120 RC that I use to feed newly hatched Pokes to get them up to Lv20 so I can get a pretty accurate calculation of their IVs. I find the good Pokes, reset the game and release the bad Pokes out into the wild (that sounds pretty humane, eh?). It takes time, but your strong Pokes will thank you for it later when they can go up against Legendary Pokes.

[Geometric-sama]

Ah, I see. I train mostly for Pokédex rather than battle, so I don't really mind about EVs - in fact, I've only just learnt to understand them - it's just time-consuming, whether I use the daycare or not.

[shanecdavis]

Well, if you don't EV train, then it is even faster! Have it hold Exp Share, trade it to another version, go battle the E4, have it in front of your team and then switch it out right away. Not only will it get 3/4 of the Exp Points of every battle, but traded to another game will help it earn Exp 50% quicker too. A half dozen E4 battles should do it.

[sleazel]

Magikarps arn't hard to raise, all you have to do is have it first, then switch it out w/ a strong pokemon. i bought the Magikarp on route 4, and had a gyaradose by the time I got to LT. Surge...although it was useless for that battle...lol


k for your karp karp lol attach a exp share... but thats only if your later in the game

[Smarties-chan]

Any Pokémon with an extreme growth curve, but Duskull is a real pain in the neck to train >.> It doesn't learn any good attack moves and doesn't have good enough attacks to actually OHko wild Pokémon that actually give a decent amount of exp points and useful EVs -_-

[Silverwing]

Wobbufet's a pain to train because a battle could last a long time if a linoone keeps using odor slueth or something. >_>

[aragornbird]

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Any Pok�mon with an extreme growth curve, but Duskull is a real pain in the neck to train >.> It doesn't learn any good attack moves and doesn't have good enough attacks to actually OHko wild Pok�mon that actually give a decent amount of exp points and useful EVs -_-

Not really. I trained a Dusclops to Lv. 100 in Ruby mostly using the Elite 4 and it was pretty easy. Training it against Phoebe, Glacia, and Steven with Macho Brace gave it ton of EVs in HP and the defenses. Plus its attack not that bad and if you predict right, it can OKO quite a few Pokemon with Focus Punch.

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[ponyta rules]

Don't no really.I suppose any Pokemon that is at a high level i find difficult to raise as it takes forever to level up or whatever and it's quite hard to find rare candys to level them up quiker as i tend to use them as soon as i get them as i can't be bothered to keep them untill i really need them!so i have no certain Pokemon that i find hard to raise.

[espeongirl]

I sometimes think bug pokemon are hard to raise because there so weak and they keep on fainting.

[Barboach]

i think meditite and shelgon take freking forever

[Elite James]

I don't EV train, just give them an exp.share and then let my strong pokemon take on the poke. league.. so they gain exp. just to complete my pokedex.. im just trying to complete the dex, then i'll try to get them all strong.. i have most pokemon in the game thats capturable, just the weak ones that are annoying, eg; zigzagoon, banette etc..
well i just started again, im at erika with my level 47 charizard ;]

[~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~]

My List
1.)Dratini
2.)Shelgon(You find most bagons in level 30 anyways)
3.)Larviatar
4.)Beldum(They only know Takedown)
5.)Wobbetfetts

~Dark Venusaur

[yaminokaitou]

Raising Dratini to Dragonite is always a pain for me, since it takes Dratini so long to get to the Dragonite stage, not to mention you get him so late in the game. Usually I try to get one early in the game, though.

[djvolcom]

Togepi is my hardest! holy crap those are really long to lvl up! espacilly rasing it from lvl 5!

[Supakitsune]

You know what's a pain in the butt to train? Sentret. (I'm only training it because I eggmoved Iron Tail onto it for the 1st RSE gym, and its ATK and DEF are so LOW...)

[~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~]

Hey I am from the Bronx to. Anyways raising a Magikarp without evolving it into a gyrados is really hard. Not only that a Chansey because number one they are hard to catch and they have very bad defenses.

~Dark Venusaur

[Alpham-A-Epsilons]

Larvitar,Dratini, and Arons their hard to train

[sk0237]

Larvitar or Eevee. >< Hardest ones...definately...

[MissingNo. Hunter Jake]

i think its hard to train an eevee into espeon or umbreon with good EV's, because you have to train level, EV, and happiness at the same time

EDIT:you also have to get the time of day right

[shanecdavis]

All good opinions, but once again the hardest Pokemon to raise are:

Breloom
Crawdaunt
Hariyama
Illumise
Seviper
Swalot
Wailord

These are the only Pokes that require 1,640,000 Exp points to reach Lv100, or in other words 39,000 Exp points more than the next closest Pokemon. Now try raising one of them to Lv100 while doing EV training AND without Rare Candies or Exp Share. Then you will see what I am talking about and give these pain in the *** Pokes the props they deserve.

[espeongirl]

smarties-kun my brother trained his duskull to lvl.85 in an hour, so duskulls arent that hard to train.

[Velsper]

smarties-kun my brother trained his duskull to lvl.85 in an hour, so duskulls arent that hard to train.

In an hour? O__O

Anyways, the hardest for me to train was definitely...Skitty. ><

Maybe it's because most of it's attacks are for contest appeals and I refused to evolve it! (Skitty's my fave Poke *hugs*)

But the hardest for me to raise overall are:

Larvitar
Beldum
Dratini
Abra
Ralts
Shuckle
Ditto ><

[ICouldEatABabyDeer]

Magikarp. I hate those stupid fish. Splash does nothing! How is that even a move!??

[The Hunk]

Well, I would like this to now represent all Pokemon games and what the hardest is to train in all games. Let me move this.

BTW, I think Chansey is the hardest.

MOVED

[DratiniLover]

I don't really know, come to think of it! ;)

[MetalMario]

While I'll admit that Beldum is extremely hard to effort train (mostly because it can't OHKO anything in any of the effort training locations until it evolves), it's not very hard to level up. Wobbuffet's a b1tch because the battles last forever. Also because Encore only has 5PP, making it impossible to last more than a couple battles with it. Also, because the damage Wobba deals depends on the damage it's dealt, it becomes harder to kill low level foes as you gain more levels. Cleaning out some very offense-driven trainers might be a possibility.

[m0nkfish]

Shedinja... What a bastard.

[Shining Salamence]

i just learned about EV training yesterday, and all my pokemon are reasonably strong the way it is (all in my party are between L71-L73), but I've started to EV train my L58 Dragonite for speed in digletts cave (defeating diglett gives you one speed ev, dugtrio gives you 2) since Dragonite's speed isn't as hot as the rest of its stats...but when i'm done it'll be a powerhouse.I need to give it a lot of EV training since I just left it in a daycare until it hit Lv55 :) .

[Toothache]

EV training doesn't take that long, and even quicker if you use vitamins.

I usually do my level training on Colosseum. (not XD, it's too awkward). After your EV training is done, you should be around L15 or higher, which is perfect to start a full run through Mt Battle. With the Pokemon you are training partnered with something that can take out most enemies in one hit (ie something with Surf, Swift, or if you're training a flying type, Earthquake for example), you can stay ahead of the game and end up around L60 by the time you get to Battle 100. (maybe a bit higher or lower depending on what you are training, but it's usually around L60). Figure in the Lucky Egg (you can get this on Pokemon XD if you don't fancy spending 50 hours catching Chanseys in the Safari Zone), and the usual traded Pokemon bonus (1.5 times normal) and you can breeze through the levels. Usefully, the Pokecoupons you get can get you some decent moves (Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, Flamethrower), and helpful items (Leftovers, Salac/Petaya Berries, Choice Bands), and all for free while you train. You get 6,900 for a full run, and since Leftovers cost only 10,000, they aren't too hard to get after a few runs. Berries are a little more at 15,000.

Also, if you have a Pick Up Pokemon in your party, check it every few levels for Rare Candy. Colosseum Pick Up works the same as Ruby/Sapphire, so the odds of finding an RC isn't too bad.