A lil something I whipped up

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Salamence (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

Cloyster (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Shell Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 152 Def / 12 Spd / 88 SAtk / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes
- Surf

Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 28 Atk / 200 Def / 24 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Pain Split
- Focus Punch
- Shadow Ball
- Will-O-Wisp

Venusaur (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 204 HP / 176 Def / 16 SAtk / 112 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Leech Seed
- Razor Leaf
- Sleep Powder

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 204 HP / 48 Atk / 104 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Shadow Ball
- Rest

Magneton @ Leftovers
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 124 HP / 160 Def / 114 Spd / 120 SAtk
Modest Naure (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Metal Sound
- Reflect
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Off the top of my head.

[Paradise]

Salamence (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 80 HP / 252 Atk / 36 Def / 140 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

Cloyster (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Shell Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Def / 28 Spd / 112 SAtk / 100 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes
- Surf

Explosion over one of the special moves imo, only about 8 speed evs, no special attack, i would put some more into defense or else you will find this to die very easily, maybe some attack to boost explosion.

Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 28 Atk / 200 Def / 24 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Pain Split
- Seismic Toss
- Shadow Ball
- Will-O-Wisp

Venusaur (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 204 HP / 176 Def / 16 SAtk / 112 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Leech Seed
- Razor Leaf
- Sleep Powder

HP Ice imo for catching Mence on the switch, as your team doesn't like mence at all.

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 204 HP / 48 Atk / 104 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Shadow Ball
- Rest

lower it to around 310 special defense and put the rest in attack.

Magneton @ Leftovers
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 124 HP / 160 Def / 114 Spd / 120 SAtk
Modest Naure (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Metal Sound
- Reflect
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

ok =/

Off the top of my head.

After Magneton is dead, nothing on your team can take a Meteor Mash and not die the next turn, but pretty solid team in my opinion.

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I'm against the idea of exploding if that's my only physical "tank" or "wall" on the team, but it could use mored Def. Hopefully the SDef EVs will rid me of any fear of Sala. I did discover a DDTar weak though.

[Pax Deorum]

Cloyster doesn't need Sp. Defence EVs. Why would you keep him against Sp. Attacks? It doesn'r need that much Sp. Attack too btw. If you really want that amount of Sp. Attack, then go

EVs: 252 HP / 54 Def / 204 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)

It'll give you the same ammount of Sp. Attack and some extra points in Defence

But IMO you should go

EVs: 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)


In conclusion, unless you're maxing a stat, alays give a pokemon a nature that favours its highest stat. Since it'll raise it by a percentage, you'll have extra points to put in another stat. This is what I mean:

EVs: 252 HP / 144 Def / 112 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)

This spread gives you 304 HP, 432 Defence and 257 Sp. Attack (which is the amount you used)

Now if I give him a Bold Nature and the same Sp. Attack stat I get:

EVs: 252 HP / 54 Def / 204 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)

This one gives you 304 HP, 257 Sp. Attack and 449 Defence, which is significately higher than the first spread. This was achieved because I favoured his highest stat, Defence.

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Thank you for a (no offense) redundant lesson. I was trying something out with the SDef EVs. I'm not sure if it works yet.

[Pax Deorum]

umm, if that lessong was so reduntant, then why did you give it a Modest Nature?

And Sp. Defence EVs are worthless, I've tried a Cloyster with them, not much useful seeing that's what Sp. Sponges are for.

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It's modest because I like to try new things with pokemon. Insight on the SDef EVs were appreciated though.

[Pax Deorum]

But if you use Bold and less Defence EVs, you'd get more Sp. Attack

[Synchronize]

It's modest because I like to try new things with pokemon.

simple as that.
<whhheeeee 25>

[Pax Deorum]

stop using it since I've proven how useless Modest is

[Synchronize]

thankfully noted. Next, I'm gonna try a Timid DDMence :P

[ralfsmith]

Can you provide me more information on this matter?

johntvery@operamail.com

johntvery@hotmail.com

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some new insight has come in and I've changed the team a little