Quite loverly

[Synchronize]

Salamence @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 84 HP / 252 Atk / 52 Def / 120 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Flying]

Ok, I understand why Rikku uses these EVs now :). This + 2 CMs from Celebi + 1 DD is purty scary.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 196 HP / 60 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Rest
- Roar
- Spikes

Starmie @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 172 HP / 96 Spd / 240 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin
- Recover
- Surf

This is also cool with a CM pass :). I should prolly add some Def so I can switch in on Meta easier :(.

Regice @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 204 HP / 140 Def / 104 SAtk / 60 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, - Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Psych Up
- Rest
- Thunderbolt

This is cool with CM passes too.

Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 28 Atk / 200 Def / 28 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Pain Split
- Shadow Ball
- Will-O-Wisp

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 116 Def / 152 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Recover

Needs another slot for Leech Seed IMO :(.

R8 M3

[Spencer]

Awesome! I like your move sets. It is better than mine. Just one little thing, I would advise getting rid of Celebi's Baton Bass for Leech Seed.

[aragornbird]

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No, don't get rid of Baton Pass. Like you said, most of your team benefits from CM passes and its the only way you'll be able to escape Dugtrio.

Anyways, the team is pretty standard. I'm not sure if starting with Salamence is a good idea. A lot of people start with Zapdos and Regice nowadays, which Salamence can't handle. Regice would be a better starter, as it scares off other special starters as well as other Salamence.

Starmie already survives two Metagross Meteor Mashes, so I wouldn't be worried about making it so defenseive.

I'd also max out Regice's HP, since with Calm, its gonna have insanely high Sp. Defense anyways.

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[asianmang]

pretty big boah weak i would say

[swiftcommander]

Salamence @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 84 HP / 252 Atk / 52 Def / 120 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) Lonely(ATK+/DEF-)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast Hydro Pump
- Hidden Power [Flying]

Ok, I understand why Rikku uses these EVs now :). This + 2 CMs from Celebi + 1 DD is purty scary.
Y use Adamant if using an SA?

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 196 HP / 60 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Rest
- Roar
- Spikes
This seems to be standard but needs a spot for Sandstorm.
Starmie @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 172 HP / 96 Spd / 240 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin
- Recover
- Surf
Needs T/Bolt.
This is also cool with a CM pass :). I should prolly add some Def so I can switch in on Meta easier :(.

Regice @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 204 HP / 140 Def / 104 SAtk / 60 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, - Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Psych Up
- Rest
- Thunderbolt

This is cool with CM passes too.

Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 28 Atk / 200 Def / 28 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) Y not (DEF+/SPD-)
- Focus Punch Ice Beam
- Pain Split
- Shadow Ball
- Will-O-Wisp
Always use speed-killing nature on Dusclops.

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 116 Def / 152 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Recover

Needs another slot for Leech Seed IMO :(.
Mega Healer Celebi>this Celebi
R8 M3
needs help die limit die now

[Synchronize]

ewwww

Salamence: Adamant is standard. Fire Blast 1-2HKOs Steel types with Adamant anyway. Lonely nature only belongs on Charizard/Gengar.

Skarmory: adskfjkfajfdaf WHY THE HECK WOULD YOU GIVE A SKARMORY SANDSTORM?

Starmie: doesn't need Tbolt. It needs to beable to OHKO Salamence.

Dusclops: You don't need -Speed nature on Dusclops. Ice BEam sucks on Dusclops.

Celebi: What the heck is Mega Healer Celebi? CM + Baton Pass makes Regice and Starmie deadly. There is no real better Celebi set, it all depends on your team. Like a staller set with Leech Seed is coolest used with Tyranitar's Sand Stream.

[aragornbird]

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*sigh*

swiftcommander, don’t rate Netbattle teams if you don’t have a firm understanding of the metagame.

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[Mullet]

Fixes in bold and such.

Salamence @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 84 HP / 252 Atk / 52 Def / 120 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Flying]

Give it more Speed to outrun other Mence. HYDRO PUMP IS COOL TOO.

Ok, I understand why Rikku uses these EVs now :). This + 2 CMs from Celebi + 1 DD is purty scary.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 240 HP / 56 Atk / 196 Def / 16 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Rest
- Roar
- Spikes

Yes I did just do that.

Starmie @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 172 HP / 96 Spd / 240 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin
- Recover
- Surf

Standard.

This is also cool with a CM pass :). I should prolly add some Def so I can switch in on Meta easier :(.

Regice @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 204 HP / 140 Def / 104 SAtk / 60 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, - Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Psych Up
- Rest
- Thunderbolt

Standard.

This is cool with CM passes too.

Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 28 Atk / 200 Def / 28 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Pain Split
- Shadow Ball
- Will-O-Wisp

S-Toss is good too.

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 116 Def / 152 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Recover

Needs 148 Speed EVs.

Needs another slot for Leech Seed IMO :(.

R8 M3

I R8'd just as you asked, lol.:D

[asianmang]

mega healer celebi is probably something like

toxic/double team/recover/heal bell

..
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[Mullet]

In additon to not being aware of the meta, he also can't use proper english:

Y use Adamant if using an SA?

What does this tell us?:\

[Paradise]

Salamence @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 84 HP / 252 Atk / 52 Def / 120 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Flying]

Ok, I understand why Rikku uses these EVs now :). This + 2 CMs from Celebi + 1 DD is purty scary.

Start with Regice. Consider Hydro Pump as well; even HP Grass has its uses.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 196 HP / 60 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Rest
- Roar
- Spikes

I stop defense ev's at 400, place 8 into speed to outrun other skarms and put the leftovers in special defense so you can possibly survive 3 mence fire blasts.

Starmie @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 172 HP / 96 Spd / 240 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin
- Recover
- Surf

This is also cool with a CM pass :). I should prolly add some Def so I can switch in on Meta easier :(.

No you shouldn't.

Regice @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 204 HP / 140 Def / 104 SAtk / 60 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, - Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Psych Up
- Rest
- Thunderbolt

This is cool with CM passes too.

This is good.

Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 28 Atk / 200 Def / 28 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Pain Split
- Shadow Ball
- Will-O-Wisp

I always like Thief, obviously with no item, over Shadow Ball to cripple stuff like Blissey or Milotic, but that's just preference, but all the same its worth the consideration imo.

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 116 Def / 152 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Recover

Needs another slot for Leech Seed IMO :(.

I think 384 HP will do, I don't even think 401 is maximum Lefties recovery. HP Grass over Psychic can kill unwanted Dugtrio switchins, you might want some special attack though, which you will have if you lower the HP.

R8 M3

Keep Regice alive, Bolt Beam rapes your team otherwise, slight Tyranitar weakess, not to mention nothing can really take repeated Meteor Mash switchins, even Skarmory takes 30% from one.

[Mullet]

not to mention nothing can really take repeated Meteor Mash switchins, even Skarmory takes 30% from one.

That's why he should have a Cleric to aid Skarm when it Rests.

Umm 401 HP is to survive 4 S-Tosses.:\

[Synchronize]

Special walls starting out is not a good idea IMO.

[Giga]

Regice is among the best starters, lol. It makes all other starters **** their pants...

[swiftcommander]

In additon to not being aware of the meta, he also can't use proper english:



What does this tell us?:\
It tells you that Adamant is not a good nature for something that uses special attacks. Lonely would be better because you are not taking out Fire Blast/Hydro Pump's power.

[Giga]

Lonely is pretty stupid because Adamant, despite the Special Attack down, still 2ohkos Skarmory and does enough damage it needs to do... Salamence needs that special defense badly for things like non ice beam Suicune and attempting to switch in on Celebi, etc.

[Synchronize]

It tells you that Adamant is not a good nature for something that uses special attacks. Lonely would be better because you are not taking out Fire Blast/Hydro Pump's power.

Use the damage calculator on NB to see what an Adamant Fire Blast from Sala does to Skarmory.

[Mullet]

It tells you that Adamant is not a good nature for something that uses special attacks. Lonely would be better because you are not taking out Fire Blast/Hydro Pump's power.

I was talking about the horrible grammar.

Sala needs it's defences.:\

[Espy Psyche]

swiftcommander watch yourself. Yes my students are supposed to show some nonsensical things that appear such as Adamant Mence, but don't draw too much fire.
Mega Healer Celebi is Heal Bell/Sub/Recover/Leech Seed btw.

[Synchronize]

swiftcommander watch yourself. Yes my students are supposed to show some nonsensical things that appear such as Adamant Mence, but don't draw too much fire.
Mega Healer Celebi is Heal Bell/Sub/Recover/Leech Seed btw.

lol. Student. I find it funny that a bad player is trying to be a good teacher. the Celebi set is kinda dumb IMO. There's not point in Substitute because you can't do anything that really takes advantage of it. Perish Song or Psychic would be better.

[Espy Psyche]

The point of Sub is to minimize damage done per turn.
I have seen this set wreak havoc on teams that use too many status effects.
Correcting my own students is my job. Many more of these students will be appearing here. My men are out to correct nonsensical movesets and other things.

[Squarewalker]

lol students. more like you made a gimmick account and now you act like if it would be your student.

p.s. that celebi set phails.

[Mullet]

swiftcommander watch yourself. Yes my students are supposed to show some nonsensical things that appear such as Adamant Mence, but don't draw too much fire.
Mega Healer Celebi is Heal Bell/Sub/Recover/Leech Seed btw.

Bad grammar/10.

Adamant Mence is teh pwnorz.

Mega Healer Celebi has to be the best set for POGYMANZ ON THE INTERNETZ!.:\

[Giga]

I have used that Celebi set :^) Sub on dugtrio switch in and scare it away, sub seed is underrated on Celebi- but it still has better things to do.