Greatest Hip-Hop artist of all time!!

[Samurai X]

Who do you think is the greatest hi-hop artist of all time and why?

I personally think that it's Tupac because of the way he used lyrics and how true he was to his style of rap. He also showed two sides to him, a gangster criminal side and an affectionate emotional side. He wasn't afraid to show his emotions and his feelings, he was also a good actor and wrote some good poetry.

I'm sorry if your particular favorite is not on the list, I just chose them because of the list MTV made. Also please don't choose more than 2 artists, only if you really have to.

[B-Baller]

I'd have to say Eminem. He expresses his emotions so vividly, and his love for his daughter is sweet. That goes to show you that gangsta rap isn't always about crime, drugs and that-other-thing (I'm not sure if I'm allowed to say that 3-lettered S-word on this forum).

He may not be as fast as Twista, but while rhyming, he keeps up with the beat and never loses his cool. Besides, he has awesome songs.

[Dragonite Tamer]

Tupac was the best for me, better than the rest.

[Suki]

Tupac, although I don't know him that much, I think he had so much bravery but it just wasn't fair that he died quite young.

[Fls4eva]

I would say Jay-Z and Enimen.. They both rap really well.. And lots of Enimen songs are really meaningful..

[Geometric-sama]

I'm not going to say that any "gangsta rapper" is the greatest hip-hop artist "of all time", because I don't believe in them. I'll nominate the Hilltop Hoods, a crew from Adelaide, Australia, who are one of the groups at the forefront of the blossoming Australian hip-hop scene, and back up their fresh sounds with positive lyrics rather than "I'm gonna kill everyone".

[Himawarii]

Eminem...
Meaningful songs and have a nice beat to em.As for my other vote,other,I'd be more on Bow Wow,he's also pretty good :3

[Bomberman]

A group named de la soul.
End.

[Jeremy]

Tupac, that's all I gotta say.

[Lust]

If you guys think that Eminem's songs are meaningful then you obviously haven't heard his first couple of albums. He's one of my favorite rappers, but his songs used to be so messed up and stupid.

I'll vote for Tupac, Jay-Z, Eminem, and Other (50 Cent).

[B-Baller]

If you guys think that Eminem's songs are meaningful then you obviously haven't heard his first couple of albums. He's one of my favorite rappers, but his songs used to be so messed up and stupid.

I'll vote for Tupac, Jay-Z, Eminem, and Other (50 Cent).

I must tell you that I have all the songs of Em's debut album Infinite and I'd have to agree with you there. That's why people hated him cos he sounded like Nas.

Other than that, yeah I think 50 Cent's awesome too. I just think that he talks about s** too much.

[The Fly]

2Pac, definitely. His songs have inspired me to listen to hip-hop and kept me from suicide during my middle school years.

[Geometric-sama]

Eminem's old songs were fairly stupid but of late he seems to have mellowed a bit and they're more thoughtful, although songs like "*** Like That" are still totally stupid. I do enjoy the ones where he's singing to his daughter, though.

[B-Baller]

Eminem's old songs were fairly stupid but of late he seems to have mellowed a bit and they're more thoughtful, although songs like "*** Like That" are still totally stupid. I do enjoy the ones where he's singing to his daughter, though.

I agree, songs like that were kinda stupid and funny, but it's a break from "OMFG Imma gangsta I'mma kill y'all mothaf**kaz!!!!" songs.

But yeah, songs like "My Dad's Gone Crazy", "97 Bonnie and Clyde" and "When I'm Gone" are sweet, except that the latter one's sort of sad, when Em raps about Kim's "wrists are bleeding" and about ignoring his daughter "Daddy where's Mommy? I can't find Mommy, where is she? I don't know go play Hailie baby your daddy's busy. Daddy's writing this song, this song ain't gonna write itself.I give you one underdog and you gotta swing by yourself."

[Crunkn' Munky]

Tupac and Dr. Dre 4ever, Definetly

[Geometric-sama]

I agree, songs like that were kinda stupid and funny, but it's a break from "OMFG Imma gangsta I'mma kill y'all mothaf**kaz!!!!" songs.

But yeah, songs like "My Dad's Gone Crazy", "97 Bonnie and Clyde" and "When I'm Gone" are sweet, except that the latter one's sort of sad, when Em raps about Kim's "wrists are bleeding" and about ignoring his daughter "Daddy where's Mommy? I can't find Mommy, where is she? I don't know go play Hailie baby your daddy's busy. Daddy's writing this song, this song ain't gonna write itself.I give you one underdog and you gotta swing by yourself."
But at least it has a happy ending, when he and Kim get back together. There's hope, which is more than you can say for a lot of gangsta rap tracks.

[Maverick]

I agree, songs like that were kinda stupid and funny, but it's a break from "OMFG Imma gangsta I'mma kill y'all mothaf**kaz!!!!" songs.

But yeah, songs like "My Dad's Gone Crazy", "97 Bonnie and Clyde" and "When I'm Gone" are sweet, except that the latter one's sort of sad, when Em raps about Kim's "wrists are bleeding" and about ignoring his daughter "Daddy where's Mommy? I can't find Mommy, where is she? I don't know go play Hailie baby your daddy's busy. Daddy's writing this song, this song ain't gonna write itself.I give you one underdog and you gotta swing by yourself."
Do you realise that the start of '97 Bonnie and Clyde Eminem "kills" Kim and dumps her body in a lake? Or do you find that sweet?

Eminem's first songs are pretty lame now, but back when they were first released they were outstanding. And they were unique compared to what popular at that time. But his music has evolved massively, and he has now become the best rapper, song writer and possibly producer in the world.

[Geometric-sama]

I wouldn't call him the best songwriter in the world. As much as you may like his songs, I still think that there are a lot more rock songs with more meaningful lyrics.

[Maverick]

Sorry, I meant rap songwriter. Just forgot to specify which. I don't think anybody can top Eminem there. The only person I know who could've rivalled him was Tupac.

[Geometric-sama]

What I don't like about 2Pac is how they're still milking his estate for all it's worth. It's his mother more than anything - I wonder if she actually cares that he's gone, because all she's been doing since he died is to release albums to cash in on his name.

[Maverick]

Yeah, I know what you mean. So much for letting his legacy rest in piece with his soul.

Another thing I hate is the way he's mentioned in so many rap songs, mainly by rappers that never even knew him. I find that rather disrespectful, I think they're doing it just for popularity.

[Geometric-sama]

It's name-dropping to sell more records. I really don't respect most of the gangsta rappers nowadays. What's with the 50 Cent movie?

[B-Baller]

Do you realise that the start of '97 Bonnie and Clyde Eminem "kills" Kim and dumps her body in a lake? Or do you find that sweet?

Eminem's first songs are pretty lame now, but back when they were first released they were outstanding. And they were unique compared to what popular at that time. But his music has evolved massively, and he has now become the best rapper, song writer and possibly producer in the world.

Dude, what I said didn't have any resemblance to Kim whatsoever. I meant the parts from the song like "Baby your da-da loves you, and I'maa always be here for you. No matter what happens, you're all I got in this world. I would never give you up for nothin. Nobody in this world is ever gonna keep you from me. I love you".

The communication between daughter and father is what I find sweet. I don't give a darn if Kim dies.

I really don't respect most of the gangsta rappers nowadays. What's with the 50 Cent movie?

I don't get to watch the 50 Cent movie cos it's R16....dangit.

[code zerro the deluge]

Tupac is the greatest. He broke down barries for black rappers.
Biggie wouldn't be anything if it wasn't for pac
Biggie was on some of Pac's concerts

[Samurai X]

I don't think Afeni is milking Tupac for the money. Only two of the albums released after his death(not counting the 7 Day Theory) had assets going to Afeni and one of them was a soundtrack for Resurection so basically it was just Loyal to the Game. All of the others released after his death had most of the money going to Death Row Records and Suge Knight. I don't think Eminem is the best songwriter, he's good but not the best. Gangsta rap has always been violent, I really like how Nas raps in his songs about the gangsta lifestyle, he doesn't go out and say "I'm going to kill you *****es!" he raps about his actual life and that's different, in my mind Nas is the best lyricyst out of this group but what Tupac did will never be forgotten and that's what makes him great. Like I said before, he had two sides and wasn't afraid to show either one.

[John Denver]

I've never heard Tupac, but I can assume he's good.

I think Eminem is pretty groundbreaking. He broke the mold for rapping and really started something new.

[Geometric-sama]

I haven't heard any of the stuff that came out when 2Pac was still alive. The stuff that's being released now is just odd.

[Samurai X]

Yes, they do seem rather odd, especially on Loyal to the Game. Eminem just changed the speed and rythm of 2pac's voice so it could match the beat of the song and that really messed with the overall sound. He should of made beats that matched 2Pac instead of trying to make 2Pac match the beat.

[Geometric-sama]

Although it'd be interesting if they released a "chipmunk" record... hmm... *muses*

[Samurai X]

A lot of things are interesting and a lot of things end up being great, it all depends on how well they make it, I don't think they'll make a "chipmunk" record but anything can happen.

[Geometric-sama]

I don't think a chipmunk record would sound particularly good though. ;)

[Kurono]

I say Eminem.

I chose Em because of how he adds a new meaning to hip hop. Its not all gangsta rap or any of that, and his music really reaches out to people..if not making them hyperactive then it'll do something like make them feel for it.

And his music just plain kicks a-double snakes.

[Shiny Meganium]

Definately Tupac. I haven't heard many of his songs, but what I've heard from him is great.

[Kim]

My vote went to "Other" and that "Other" I would have to say is MIssy Elliot. Not because of her lyrics or songwriting, but for the doors she's opened. Her videos are quirky, strange, and downright weird. Something hip-hop didn't really have. Now you see other artists (Ludacris, Snoop, etc.) embracing the "hey, this is kinda neat to add different stuff once in a while!" deal.

[Geometric-sama]

I'm not really a fan of Missy Elliott (or, come to think of it, of rap in general) but she gets some respect from me because she was one of the first female rappers to really go mainstream.

[Poke Mastr]

Biggie all the way. After him I would say Wu-Tang Clan (do you count rap group?)

It's all good baby baby

[SupaCuz]

Afroman! He raps about stuff other than violence drugs, cars, and women.

Because I got high! Because I got high! Because I got high!

[Geometric-sama]

Uh, getting high means you're taking drugs. o_o

[Kim]

hahah Afro Man? What has he done for hip-hop, other than a 1-hit wonder?:laugh:

[Lust]

Afroman has a song were he disses on about every single rapper that was popular at the time. He's just jealous that he's a one-hit wonder.

[Geometric-sama]

I find that a lot of rappers tend to "diss on" other rappers, though. I think there's too much rivalry in the rap world; all these killings are getting me down. :<

[Kyosuke]

Hands down.. Nas. Over the years since his first album(Illmatic), he has just been so consistent with the way that he flows and talks about his life.. unlike so much of the garbage on the radio and TV nowadays within the hip-hop community... Emenem is seriously up there but IMHO was much better in the 2000-2003 era.

[Mario The World Champion]

Although a do think that a few of the artists on here are great should be considered in that list...

For me, I would have to choose The Sugarhill Gang, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, Whodini, Run DMC and Kurtis Blow. They all laid the foundation for Hip-Hop and brought into the mainstream.

To me, These men are THE Greatest in Hip-Hop.

[_Huggle_Bunny_]

Hmmmm...First Of All None Of These Guys Are Hip-Hop...Well Em and J Is But Not The Rest....

Im Stuck Between Nas And Pac....

I Cant Deside...They Both Brought So Much To Tha Game...


Pac Was A Bad A** N****...And What He Spit Was What Was Goin On In Da Hood....Pac Had More Song That People Could Relate To....Suxs He Got Cut Down So Young...But I Still Can Give You Like 30 Reasons Why He Is Still Alive...XD


Nas...Hmmm What Can I Say Bout Him...He Gods Son...(not really)He Da S*** ANd All Ways Will be

[Larvitar Trainer]

Eminem. He's a very sucessful white rapper. And he's also a good song writer.

[Samurai X]

Hmmmm...First Of All None Of These Guys Are Hip-Hop...Well Em and J Is But Not The Rest....


How are they not hip-hop?

To me and a lot of other people hip-hop is a culture, a culture which consists of music, fashion, and other things. These are all hip-hop artists to me and all of these people say in their own lyrics that they are hip-hop artists. All of these guys here are rappers and rap music is a part of the hip-hop culture. What I'm trying to say is that hip-hop is the big picture and other things, like rap ,are part of the big picture.

[cYnThIa, Ultimat Trainer]

Jesus, our lord and savior. If he had tried it, he would be the greatest, because he is the son of god, obv.

[_Huggle_Bunny_]

LOL...i guess she ment Nas...

And They Wernt Hip-Hop They Were Rap....And Gangsta Rap...

And I Do Find It Odd That You Dont Have Easy E In This Seeing As He Like Started All This....

If You Put Easy E In This There Would be No Contest Of Who Would Win....

[Black Guy]

...was Obviously A Black Guy. ;)

[musamusa]

Dude you forgot to add Mike Jones. Mike jones is teh best!!!!!!!1

I love that one song where he goes "mike jones" or something liek that over and over and over and over.
Thers tihs kdi at my skool with that name and whenever i see him i go like "mike jones mike jones mike jones" (lol, I didn't type all that out, I just copy ande pasted it!)

[Karasuma]

This is a hard choice, but I'm going with Tupac and Em, Pac is like still today one of the greatest rappers next to BIG, and Em is also a great rapper not because he's white and all, because he knows how to rap well.

[Crunkn' Munky]

Em is okay on the raps
but N.W.A. is the best group
anyone down wit O.P.P.?
LOL XD

[Samurai X]

LOL...i guess she ment Nas...

And They Wernt Hip-Hop They Were Rap....And Gangsta Rap...

And I Do Find It Odd That You Dont Have Easy E In This Seeing As He Like Started All This....

If You Put Easy E In This There Would be No Contest Of Who Would Win....

Rap is hip-hop, gangsta rap is hip-hop, go research hip-hop, rap and gangsta rap are sub-genres of hip-hop.

Of course there would be a contest if Eazy E was in here, he didn't start rap or hip-hop, Run DMC put hip-hop in the mainstream before Eazy or NWA. Eazy started gangsta rap, some argue that it was Ice-T, but he isn't the best IMO. I love Eazy E, he's an awesome rapper and he has some of my favorite songs in his catalogue but he's not the best IMO. To you there would not be a contest because that is what you believe, not everyone believes that. I also didn't put Eazy E in here because I didn't make this list, this was on an MTV list of what people chose and I agreed with the main choices.

I also want to say that I voted for Tupac for the reasons I said earlier but I also want to give Nas a lot of respect, he is a great lyrycist and Illmatic is a great album that I just can't stop listening to. He would be up there with Tuoac but Tupac is still better to me.

[diarugapal]

i picked Tupac, Biggie, Nas, and Eminem.

[Blue Mew_16_2006]

I picked tupac/makaveli or how ever you spell it lol'¤' and eminem thats my dogg lol '¤' and other, and the other's are, The Game, bone thugs in harmony, and the kings of hip hop and gangsta rap Ice Cube, Dr.Dre, Eazy-E, Snoop Dogg