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Sawyer
February 6th, 2006, 04:21 PM
What is it with all the non-Asian people trying to be Japanese? You see them all over Anime conventions... Last year when I went to Comic-Con in San Diego (going again this year, and I know I'll see them), you see a bunch of normal, regular girls with cat ears on. You can always expect to see one of these catgirls anywhere you go where there's anime or Fruits Basket. I mean, more power to them if they're trying to be original, but it's getting so used by people trying to adopt cultures with false information about them. They're all over the place. I respect the Asian culture, I study it myself, but... these people who have no idea what the culture is about are flipping out over these cat ears, even though they have no idea what they are. And this kind of person can be seen online. No offense to the people on this forum who do so, but what is with the Japanese names? Like... Kurosaki, Kazuhito, etc.? I thought about one myself a year ago, then I had to go wash my mouth out with soap. This is not intended to offend anyone, and I am sorry for the people I may and probably will offend. But please, can someone tell me why people are running away from their own cultures?

And to the other side of the story... Asian people trying to be white? Why can't anyone embrace their culture anymore? It just sickens me... there's this Korean kid at my school who died his hair blond, and I asked him why he did that, and why he wasn't proud of his descent. He said that he was not proud to be Korean, and that it was important to be really cool rather than respecting where you came from. You tell me... does what I (and you probably) see make any sense?
EDIT: Just found it... xD

http://somethingpositive.net/arch/sp01192004.gif

ArchAngel
February 6th, 2006, 04:31 PM
korea is a war torn country, i can understand him, and these other people, just anime nerds cosplaying, lol

nerds will be nerds theres nothing more to say :3 peace out

Sawyer
February 6th, 2006, 04:32 PM
Good point about Korea... I respect that. But of course, there are the numbers of South Koreans who do so =/

Ryoutarou
February 6th, 2006, 04:37 PM
Kazuhito's my favorite drummer, just so you know. Or would you rather me use a full on Spanish name and call myself "Juan Carlos" or something like that?

The term you're looking for is Wapanese though, when someone of non-Japanese decent tries to be Japanese by only using things they've seen in the media as their Japanese knowledge. I myself do know Japanese, I thought it'd be cool to pick up a third language, so I picked up Japanese. I already know Spanish and English and there's nothing else I really wanted to learn. I like the Japanese culture and society and their pop culture, and I'm not some otaku to it. I use the term otaku to represent the Wapanese population. They think anything from Japan is automatically better than anything from America and they forget their birth culture. I don't, I'm still semi-proud of my heritage, but does that mean I can't take an interest in another culture?

Sawyer
February 6th, 2006, 04:38 PM
Like I said.. no offense. I didn't know that you were literally interested in learning Japanese. I, too, am studying the Japanese culture and language. And no, I'm not some bitter old bastard who won't let kids do anything new. I'm a liberal, and I'm nowhere near old =O I just don't enjoy people's cultures being thrown in the trash for another one. I mean, let them do what they want, I'm not stopping them, I'm merely a messenger for a greater public. =/

Lily
February 6th, 2006, 04:48 PM
I'm Korean myself, but not everyone tries to be 'white.' They probably lack sufficient reasoning as to why they should stay by their culture, and the temptation of popularity has always been among us. People naturally find genuine interest in different cultures at first and desire to take part in it. Rather than taking a logical step and cultivating that desire into standard knowledge, they show their fondness by, let's say, wearing those 'cat ears' and overusing some Japanese phrases.

Sawyer
February 6th, 2006, 04:51 PM
Thank you, finally someone who actually sees it. (I've posted this on many forums...)

Samurai X
February 6th, 2006, 04:53 PM
I think it's because the particular person is more interested in that culture, I don't think it's because they don't like their own culture. I myself love the japanese culture, it is a very interesting culture and it goes beyond anime and manga.

Beatrice
February 6th, 2006, 04:54 PM
For one thing, I'm not much like my culture at all XD Not stereotypical. I hate stereotypes, they're more of labels. I...really don't pay much attention to race/culture really. ._. If I act a certain way and get labeled a certain way, well that sucks I guess, but that doesn't mean I have to change who I am to fit my decent. Just IMHO...

Rikster101
February 6th, 2006, 05:02 PM
ive seen alot of japanese kids at my high school trying to do that too........

pokejungle
February 6th, 2006, 05:06 PM
korea is a war torn country, i can understand him, and these other people, just anime nerds cosplaying, lol

nerds will be nerds theres nothing more to say :3 peace out
Not all cosplayers are nerds. Some just really love a fandom.

A lot of my friends call me Wapanese, but it's really far from the truth. Yes, I love Japan. But no, I don't embrace false hopes that are given by manga/anime/fan writings about Japan. I actually researched Japan for multiple school projects ._. Including their official site to get demographic and country information, JET teacher accounts, and actual news sites for Japan [sometimes translated].

So as much as some people would like to believe, I'm not Wapanese <<" I'm glad I'm white. I just like the culture in Japan. More for the game designing than anime/manga. Mindswell study my future job ;P

That's just my personal account on the issue .________.

John Denver
February 6th, 2006, 05:28 PM
It's because they're socially unintelligent geeks. That's like, the reason for almost all annoyance in the world.

They like anime. They're equally annoying friends like anime. Seeing as this is true, they like to be loud and obnoxious and somehow think that liking anime makes them cool and original (which it doesn't...). They're usually boys actually, not usually girls. I'm not saying that every hardcore anime fan is a nerd, simply 99.999999999999% of them...

Yeah, I don't like nerds really...mainly nerds that complain and bother me with their cackly voice and soda can sized arms...

pokejungle
February 6th, 2006, 05:37 PM
It's because they're socially unintelligent geeks. That's like, the reason for almost all annoyance in the world.

They like anime. They're equally annoying friends like anime. Seeing as this is true, they like to be loud and obnoxious and somehow think that liking anime makes them cool and original (which it doesn't...). They're usually boys actually, not usually girls. I'm not saying that every hardcore anime fan is a nerd, simply 99.999999999999% of them...

Yeah, I don't like nerds really...mainly nerds that complain and bother me with their cackly voice and soda can sized arms...
I never knew you felt that way about me .-.

John Denver
February 6th, 2006, 05:39 PM
I never knew you felt that way about me .-.

You didn't read the the size .01 fine print at the bottom of my rant

EXCEPTIONS: Cool people like Paul...

Jack O'Neill
February 6th, 2006, 05:43 PM
Don't just spay these so-called "catgirls." Terminate them outright with as much prejudice as you can muster upon sight. For the sake of real catgirls, destroy these disgraces.

I'm not Wapanese. Conversely, I'm not ashamed of my Filipino heritage. There. Simple and to the point.

These "Wapanese" need to know their place. Same goes for those Asians who want to be white. They sicken me in equal proportion.

John Denver
February 6th, 2006, 05:46 PM
I'm hispanic. Totally carribean. I dress like me.

Crystal Clair
February 6th, 2006, 05:47 PM
I actually do act kind of Wapanese but only at my high school because the American influence is too strong there. All you see are either gangsters or hippies. I'm just trying to balance things out because on the net, I use English-sounding usernames.

Beatrice
February 6th, 2006, 05:47 PM
Don't just spay these so-called "catgirls." Terminate them outright with as much prejudice as you can muster upon sight. For the sake of real catgirls, destroy these disgraces.

I'm not Wapanese. Conversely, I'm not ashamed of my Filipino heritage. There. Simple and to the point.

These "Wapanese" need to know their place. Same goes for those Asians who want to be white. They sicken me in equal proportion.
I still don't get how you can 'want' to be another race. I think you just are what you are. If you just happen to fit under that category, that sucks =\

I hate posers like that. I know one too. She's Wapanese and I showed her the FMA movie.
She's like 'Wow! Does it take place in Japan?'
'...no, Germany'
'But, isn't it Japanese?'
'so?'
'So why isn't it in Japan?'

Those kind of people piss me off.

Anywho, real 'catgirls'? o.0
'

Ryoutarou
February 6th, 2006, 05:49 PM
I still don't get how you can 'want' to be another race. I think you just are what you are. If you just happen to fit under that category, that sucks =\

What's hard to get about someone wanting to be something else?

John Denver
February 6th, 2006, 05:50 PM
What's hard to get about someone wanting to be something else?

Well yeah...it's everyone's natural tendency to be jealous of someone else...

DANG ASIAN HAIR!! ALWAYS SO PERFECT!!

Beatrice
February 6th, 2006, 05:51 PM
What's hard to get about someone wanting to be something else?
Giving someone characteristics that you have to follow to be like that just doesn't seem right to me...

Jack O'Neill
February 6th, 2006, 06:17 PM
I still don't get how you can 'want' to be another race. I think you just are what you are. If you just happen to fit under that category, that sucks =\

I hate posers like that. I know one too. She's Wapanese and I showed her the FMA movie.
She's like 'Wow! Does it take place in Japan?'
'...no, Germany'
'But, isn't it Japanese?'
'so?'
'So why isn't it in Japan?'

Those kind of people piss me off.

Anywho, real 'catgirls'? o.0
'
If you're white, you're white. If you're Asian, you're Asian. That's it.

What did I say earlier? Terminate them with as much prejudice as you can muster on sight. xP

It was meant to be an analogy of true anime fans, not the posers who infest conventions.

digi-kun
February 6th, 2006, 06:24 PM
um...ok then i guess i'll do one of my rare semi-long post thingys

First off, Names at PokeCommunity...understandable...i have a -kun in the name...
anywho, origins of this name...So back when AIM was the fad (maybe 5-7 years ago?), i forgot my password...again...and my email address was just changed a while ago so i couldn't use the "Forgot Password" thingy. Therefore i decided to come up with a new one. Anywho, i was in my digimon liking at that time (I had no cable) and after researching a bit on digimon, found a site with Frontier. New things were "Spirit Evolutions" so i figure why not...that or a year earlier i liked spirits from "Magic:The Gathering" well either way i had an interest in ghosts and spirits and supernatural stuff...so, my friends back then were all hackers so i added virus to the end, hence "Digispirit Virus"...along the way, more anime (You know, Fox Kids, Fox Box and all that stuff...)[and before you go contradict that, i wasn't allowed to watch simpsons or anything like that cuz they had swears in them...PBS, well, i kinda grew outa that by then...]

Adding the Kun:
So, got cartoon network (already knew about japanese anime via CCS by then.) Blue and i meet, or rather before, people called me digi for short. So blue and i go joking arround with japanese Honorifics (cuz there are so many) and i thought digi-kun sounded good so it stuck XD.

From my point of view, the "american teenage culture" of today primarily focuses on:
Sports, Looks (Both of which main points are usually to impress the opposite sex)
TV (Mostly Cartoons and Prime Time Live-Action shows (Dramas)
Games (Usually violent games)
Computers (Mostly Internet & Games)
Music (only a select few i find decent/enjoyable to hear)
Porn (It's true you know...i think the stats are...54-64% of all the worlds' internet explorers are on a porn site at this momment).

Seeing as i'm only classed into Computers, Games, and TV a bit for the US, fell outa the pop culture here. Got into the Japanese Culture, regot into a bit of the Chinese (My origin) and watched a few Korean stuff. Music i found it more enjoyable (the music not the actual translations of the lyrics)...personally i'd rather not repeat the same topics in songs these days...from what i remember, sex, heartbroken, love confession, emo, etc.

Now current listings for me:
Best Cartoons: Japan (Anime)
Best Live-Action Drama: Japan (Fell apart (sadness) from 1 Litre of Tears)
Best Live-Action Comedy: America
Best Live-Action Action: Actually a tie between Japan (Sentai) and America (Sci-Fi)
Best Movies: America
Best Soap Operas: Korea
Best Games: Japan (Yes, i'm a Nintendo/Sony fan)

Random Funny Fact: Half the American flags i see have "Made in China" somewhere printed on it. Sure tells a lot about our culture XD

Oh and one more thing...that catgirl theory is just screwed up...and way too exaggerated. Personally, i'd probably see more people outa Naruto, Inuyasha or another one of those neverending series than catgirls >>

Another random momment: Ever seen a girl dress up/cosplay as Ed (FMA)? XD actually it was pretty good o.o

and it's more of a 75% line between Otaku and Anime fans XD

BTW digi's an Aisan...hate stereotypes >>

Cloud_boy
February 6th, 2006, 06:29 PM
People who want to be something they are not... That makes me sick.

I'm a Pure-blood mexican, a true latin prince, I also love anime, but you don't see me going crazy with my katanas ( I collect them) or dressing like Inuyasha. I don't try to change my hair to blonde, or attemp to be a wannabe
people should be like god intended them to be like, but if they still want to change, let them, it is not going to hurt you.

Overlord IX
February 6th, 2006, 06:53 PM
Freakiness is in the air....
Anyway,people aint acting normal nowathese days. People in my Singapore are trying to dress up like characters from gundam seed. And poeple think they look 'hot'. They just simply look freaky.

pokejungle
February 6th, 2006, 06:56 PM
...

Cosplaying isn't weird O_O And I'll stick with my opinion~~

Chairman Kaga
February 6th, 2006, 07:32 PM
You know, I think it's incredibly arrogant to demean people who apply parts of the anime culture to their life just because they're not Asian. It doesn't occur to many people that the anime fanbase may be acting out anime culture, not intentionally or unintentionally poorly mimicking Japanese culture. Too many people fall into the trap of thinking that anime Japan and real Japan are the same place, and if they ever take any time to actually research the culture, the language, the society, politics, economy, etc; they find out that they're two entirely different worlds. Anime is the beautification and idealization of many things that many cultures worldwide lack and long for, and anyone with an eye for quality and art should at least be able to see this.

The biggest defence mechanism of jocks against people who they don't understand is to attack them, pass them off with any number of popular labels that instantly categorize someone as inferior, an outsider, an undesirable, etc; and I've been incredibly surprised at how many jockish attitudes I've seen in this thread. I know I can't make any points that will resonate with anyone of that mindset in here because I don't have their flair for sharp hatred and complete convincement of their own superiority, so I won't bother to continue much on this point, but I will brush on the subject of cosplay. The point of cosplay is fun; people don't try to look good or look similar to any character, it's just one of those mysterious forms of entertainment that jocks don't understand that don't involve looking good and making sure everyone else knows that you look good. It's odd, it's inventive, therefore many people hate it.

This also ties into the incredibly foolish and racist Asian part of the debate; many Asians on the internet that I know have a complete self-absorption and superiority complex just because of their race and like to flaunt it wherever I go. I can't say that I've seen it much at this board, but many others I've been to it's rampant. Just think of all the little n00bs that have "azn" in their name...if the only possible way you can think to identify yourself is to flaunt your race, it's incredibly sad. I would be crucified if I went to a board and had a name that emphasized my whiteness; and somehow people think that I'm less deserving of being able to experience anime in my own way because of belonging to an inferior race. Anime has never been about race; anime characters are actually drawn to be as race-neutral as possible to give them more universal appeal; it's just the human image, and there are still people who are trying to portray it as the complete opposite. If you're Asian, fine, be as proud as you want of your heritage but don't use it as an excuse to claim personal rights to anime, and don't use it to raise yourself above a subculture. It's stupid, it's based on complete misinformation of what anime is even about, and it perpetuates prejudice that so many of us would be willing to bury forever if not for people bringing it up over such trivial reasons. Anime fans don't care what other people think; I could easily go on a tirade about how athletes, goths, etc. live their lives, but I don't see any point in it. There are just some people in the world so desperate to persecute another group of people that they'll turn on something completely harmless, something meant for enjoyment, appreciation, enrichment of life, just as long as their superiority complex can justify them seeing it as inferior to their own way of life. This is nothing new, this is just another example of common idiocy.

MegaDitto
February 6th, 2006, 07:48 PM
My username is from a anime series. I'm not really sure what to say so.........

There is a big difference between acting as an Asian and learning the culture. True it is a way of mocking one another. It is a fad that has been taken too far. The culture is one thing but copying things because you seen it from a series just because you like it is just pointless. Everything from food, clothes, everyday items, etc.For those who want to learn the culture it is something important and may make a difference in life.Cosplaying is okay and fun but overdoing is just making it pointless. But just acting as one is just plain disrespect. But other countries does it also around the world. So this is not something new. It shows no appreication to what you like. It's just basically liking something without even knowing what it is. Along as it is something that looks cool, it would just be copied. It's just a disease that is part of the social world and may always will be.

It just can't be stopped.

Sawyer
February 6th, 2006, 08:45 PM
I did not mean to start such a domesticated argument, I'm just stating my opinion and purpose. As I recall, since the T-Dome was taken away, we are allowed to create (possibly offending) discussion threads in Other Chat? So sue me, shoot me. Kaga, umm... with the whole Asian pride thing... I know exactly what you mean. I'm in advanced classes, so naturally I am surrounded by hardcore Asians. These are the people who still walk to school with their parents, who stay there until the bell rings, in case you don't know who I'm talking about. I've gotten used to socializing with a lot of them because I haven't anybody else to socialize with. (No, I do not dress or act anything like they do. I'm the only person in my classes who wears his pants even moderately tight, and probably the only person who's worn a black t-shirt in 3 years, but meh.) I've got... a friend whose AIM screenname is "AznLinkCloud", and another "krnwiseman". I'm not too fond of this at all.

Hitokiri
February 7th, 2006, 05:58 AM
My name is from an anime series (hitokiri battousai, Kenshin), but I'm happy to be white, and I'm not obsessed with anime. If people want to be fans and obsess over animes, then just let them ^^

Sawyer
February 7th, 2006, 07:46 AM
I never said that they are not allowed to do that, I just said that it was incredibly annoying.

pokejungle
February 7th, 2006, 06:57 PM
You know, I think it's incredibly arrogant to demean people who apply parts of the anime culture to their life just because they're not Asian. It doesn't occur to many people that the anime fanbase may be acting out anime culture, not intentionally or unintentionally poorly mimicking Japanese culture. Too many people fall into the trap of thinking that anime Japan and real Japan are the same place, and if they ever take any time to actually research the culture, the language, the society, politics, economy, etc; they find out that they're two entirely different worlds. Anime is the beautification and idealization of many things that many cultures worldwide lack and long for, and anyone with an eye for quality and art should at least be able to see this.

The biggest defence mechanism of jocks against people who they don't understand is to attack them, pass them off with any number of popular labels that instantly categorize someone as inferior, an outsider, an undesirable, etc; and I've been incredibly surprised at how many jockish attitudes I've seen in this thread. I know I can't make any points that will resonate with anyone of that mindset in here because I don't have their flair for sharp hatred and complete convincement of their own superiority, so I won't bother to continue much on this point, but I will brush on the subject of cosplay. The point of cosplay is fun; people don't try to look good or look similar to any character, it's just one of those mysterious forms of entertainment that jocks don't understand that don't involve looking good and making sure everyone else knows that you look good. It's odd, it's inventive, therefore many people hate it.

This also ties into the incredibly foolish and racist Asian part of the debate; many Asians on the internet that I know have a complete self-absorption and superiority complex just because of their race and like to flaunt it wherever I go. I can't say that I've seen it much at this board, but many others I've been to it's rampant. Just think of all the little n00bs that have "azn" in their name...if the only possible way you can think to identify yourself is to flaunt your race, it's incredibly sad. I would be crucified if I went to a board and had a name that emphasized my whiteness; and somehow people think that I'm less deserving of being able to experience anime in my own way because of belonging to an inferior race. Anime has never been about race; anime characters are actually drawn to be as race-neutral as possible to give them more universal appeal; it's just the human image, and there are still people who are trying to portray it as the complete opposite. If you're Asian, fine, be as proud as you want of your heritage but don't use it as an excuse to claim personal rights to anime, and don't use it to raise yourself above a subculture. It's stupid, it's based on complete misinformation of what anime is even about, and it perpetuates prejudice that so many of us would be willing to bury forever if not for people bringing it up over such trivial reasons. Anime fans don't care what other people think; I could easily go on a tirade about how athletes, goths, etc. live their lives, but I don't see any point in it. There are just some people in the world so desperate to persecute another group of people that they'll turn on something completely harmless, something meant for enjoyment, appreciation, enrichment of life, just as long as their superiority complex can justify them seeing it as inferior to their own way of life. This is nothing new, this is just another example of common idiocy.
I'm really really surprised you defended Anime/Manga after you apparently hate me for liking it ._.

But I will give you credit where it's deserved. You did a nice job Chairman Kaga. Very thorough, and I agreed with pretty much everything you said.

Thanks for standing up against the majority.

John Denver
February 7th, 2006, 07:41 PM
Asians are the new Blacks

I see AZN PRIDE! everywhere

Kogenta
February 7th, 2006, 08:05 PM
Relating to one culture's fascination with another, I believe an interest in the unknown is natural. And, when one feels as though they cannot be a part of the culture that surrounds them, they may revert to an attempt at somehow "belonging" to another culture. Of course, this is a generalization and in no manner can be applied to everyone. Further, when certain cultures have rather extreme differences, the cultures may take an interest in one another because there is much to learn about the other. Whatever the case, I am thankful for and proud of my heritage.

-----------

I am an anime fan and, by descent, Asian. However, I am in no manner an otaku. As to the Japanese language, I know pieces of it and enjoy using what I know. However, I also know pieces of and use Spanish and German. Learning about other cultures and other languages has, in the pursuit itself, an appeal to me.

I have a number of usernames online, Kogenta being one of them (obviously). Not all of my usernames are Japanese, though. And, Kogenta was merely the name of a character I liked. :: shrug ::

Sawyer
February 8th, 2006, 07:45 AM
Asians are the new Blacks

I see AZN PRIDE! everywhere
Asians are the new Whites.

Maverick
February 8th, 2006, 09:24 AM
What is it with all the non-Asian people trying to be Japanese? You see them all over Anime conventions... Last year when I went to Comic-Con in San Diego (going again this year, and I know I'll see them), you see a bunch of normal, regular girls with cat ears on. You can always expect to see one of these catgirls anywhere you go where there's anime or Fruits Basket. I mean, more power to them if they're trying to be original, but it's getting so used by people trying to adopt cultures with false information about them. They're all over the place. I respect the Asian culture, I study it myself, but... these people who have no idea what the culture is about are flipping out over these cat ears, even though they have no idea what they are. And this kind of person can be seen online. No offense to the people on this forum who do so, but what is with the Japanese names? Like... Kurosaki, Kazuhito, etc.? I thought about one myself a year ago, then I had to go wash my mouth out with soap. This is not intended to offend anyone, and I am sorry for the people I may and probably will offend. But please, can someone tell me why people are running away from their own cultures?

And to the other side of the story... Asian people trying to be white? Why can't anyone embrace their culture anymore? It just sickens me... there's this Korean kid at my school who died his hair blond, and I asked him why he did that, and why he wasn't proud of his descent. He said that he was not proud to be Korean, and that it was important to be really cool rather than respecting where you came from. You tell me... does what I (and you probably) see make any sense?
EDIT: Just found it... xD

http://somethingpositive.net/arch/sp01192004.gif
I am so glad I'm not the only one that feels like that. I hate all these non-Japanese people putting -kun, -chan etc on their usernames or having Japanese sounding usernames. When I first came here the majority of usernames were standard, normal usernames like you find on any other board. Now everybody is going Japanese crazy, and most usernames just sound way too similar now.

Ryoutarou
February 8th, 2006, 02:02 PM
Now everybody is going Japanese crazy, and most usernames just sound way too similar now.
That would probably be because you're only used to a certain set of names. Really, all Japanese names sound different, all names in general sound different, it just depends how long you've been around things like that.

Lily
February 8th, 2006, 02:22 PM
I don't see what's so wrong about having similar Japanese names. PC's a forum. I repeat, a forum~ It doesn't necessarily affect the culture directly, per se...but if it bothers you that much, then ignore it. o_O; The whole hype will eventually fade, anyway.

John Denver
February 8th, 2006, 02:43 PM
I am so glad I'm not the only one that feels like that. I hate all these non-Japanese people putting -kun, -chan etc on their usernames or having Japanese sounding usernames. When I first came here the majority of usernames were standard, normal usernames like you find on any other board. Now everybody is going Japanese crazy, and most usernames just sound way too similar now.

I could just as easily say you're ripping off an Awesome Mel Gibson movie...

different strokes

Maverick
February 8th, 2006, 03:10 PM
That would probably be because you're only used to a certain set of names. Really, all Japanese names sound different, all names in general sound different, it just depends how long you've been around things like that.
True. I guess it's just me and my small brain.

I could just as easily say you're ripping off an Awesome Mel Gibson movie...

different strokes
You could, but you'd be completely wrong. I just used the word because I liked it's meaning.

John Denver
February 8th, 2006, 03:23 PM
You could, but you'd be completely wrong. I just used the word because I liked it's meaning.

Then what makes people that add -kun or -chan to their names any different?

hmm...?

PWNED

Sawyer
February 8th, 2006, 06:34 PM
Liek omfg pwnt. O_O That was... like... intense, Dakota. xD

Jack O'Neill
February 8th, 2006, 06:51 PM
There are always a few people who go overboard and make the faction they supposedly represent look really bad. Radical Islamic terrorists make moderate Muslims in general look bad, for example. It's the same way with anime and manga fans. The swarms of false catgirls who swarm conventions make the more moderate members of the faction look really, REALLY bad. Your typical American idiot will automatically assume that the moderates also assume the same stance as the radicals.

Stereotyping is a disease, a cancer of society. It is a plague, but as of now, there is no cure for it.

John Denver
February 8th, 2006, 07:30 PM
Stereotyping is a disease, a cancer of society. It is a plague, but as of now, there is no cure for it.

As said in the most dramatic way possible...>_O

Lily
February 8th, 2006, 07:40 PM
Acknowledging the situation is the first step in solving any problem; people will eventually realize this and work towards a solution that'll satisfy the majority's needs.

Maverick
February 9th, 2006, 12:57 AM
Then what makes people that add -kun or -chan to their names any different?

hmm...?

PWNED
You're an idiot, aren't you? You're one of those guys who thinks that whatever they think overrides anybody else.

As far as I'm aware, "kun" and "chan" just mean buy and girl, so it's hardly that they like the meaning of it. It's a fad, it's the "cool" thing to do so everybody follows it.

So please get your tongue out of your own *** and stop trying to look smart. You'll just fail. Oh, and try getting a life too, instead of spending all of your time trying to play the big man on a little Pokmon forum. When it comes to having a life, you'll always be "PWNED". Now shut up.

Hitokiri
February 9th, 2006, 05:48 AM
You're an idiot, aren't you? You're one of those guys who thinks that whatever they think overrides anybody else.

As far as I'm aware, "kun" and "chan" just mean buy and girl, so it's hardly that they like the meaning of it. It's a fad, it's the "cool" thing to do so everybody follows it.

So please get your tongue out of your own *** and stop trying to look smart. You'll just fail. Oh, and try getting a life too, instead of spending all of your time trying to play the big man on a little Pokmon forum. When it comes to having a life, you'll always be "PWNED". Now shut up.

We don't need to be fighting or flaming now do we? ._.;;

But I agree with John Denver on this one. You choosing your name preference is no different than someone adding a japanese suffix to their name isn't it? ^.^

Morkula
February 9th, 2006, 06:18 AM
Congratulations, Maverick! Between this and the dirty jokes in the DCC, you've earned yourself a warning.
*WARNED*

Maverick
February 9th, 2006, 07:10 AM
Thank you for that Morkula, that was sooo deserving of a warning. Of all the things I've seen on this forum that have gone unreprimanded, this clearly goes above and beyond all of those.

One more thing, shouldn't you have sent the warning via PM? You know, to make sure that I actually received it properly, instead of assuming that the warning in a thread would've been sufficient. That would've been the correct thing to do. They did a great job appointing you.

Lily
February 9th, 2006, 01:02 PM
..hypocrisy..

But the fact remains that you *did* check up on this thread. Anyway, using (a weird kind of) common sense, one can assume you'd be coming back to this thread to see how your insult might have been taken. =P

Even if Morkula posted here, since you seem so intent on settling things through PM, you could've simply PMed him your reaction instead of directly assaulting him, for a lack of a better word. o_O;

Ryoutarou
February 9th, 2006, 01:08 PM
Thank you for that Morkula, that was sooo deserving of a warning. Of all the things I've seen on this forum that have gone unreprimanded, this clearly goes above and beyond all of those.

One more thing, shouldn't you have sent the warning via PM? You know, to make sure that I actually received it properly, instead of assuming that the warning in a thread would've been sufficient. That would've been the correct thing to do. They did a great job appointing you.He should have, and you'll be getting another one if you keep it up, as obvious as it is that you won't care.

Maverick
February 9th, 2006, 01:19 PM
I do care, I don't actually want to be warned or worse by staff. I just think me being warned when I've seen a lot worse behaviour was a bit unjust.
All I did was retaliate when some idiot tried to be smart with me, that's all. It's not like I went around randomly insulting people.

And those jokes in the DCC...please.

Hitokiri
February 10th, 2006, 11:15 AM
We really don't need to be fighting do we ;_;. I'm sure that John Denver would be sorry for saying that and I'm sure that Morkula realizes now that he should have sent that through a Private Message, and I bet you don't want another warning Maverick just for anting up the Moderators...we don't need to start any new flames wars ._.

John Denver
February 12th, 2006, 06:41 AM
We really don't need to be fighting do we ;_;. I'm sure that John Denver would be sorry for saying that and I'm sure that Morkula realizes now that he should have sent that through a Private Message, and I bet you don't want another warning Maverick just for anting up the Moderators...we don't need to start any new flames wars ._.

I'm not really sorry actually...I knew he'd get banned anyway. He had less than 100 posts and he was already tweaking on everybody.

fallen_natsumixx
February 12th, 2006, 11:28 AM
Good point about Korea... I respect that. But of course, there are the numbers of South Koreans who do so =/

And I sure as hell ain't one of them. =/ Meh, when I went to visit my relatives in Busan, South Korea, I saw a bunch of these girls wearing cat ears and TRYING to talk in Japanese... they failed terribly. 0_______oU

But I understand what you mean, it get's annoying as hell.

Hitokiri
February 13th, 2006, 05:42 AM
And I sure as hell ain't one of them. =/ Meh, when I went to visit my relatives in Busan, South Korea, I saw a bunch of these girls wearing cat ears and TRYING to talk in Japanese... they failed terribly. 0_______oU

But I understand what you mean, it get's annoying as hell.

I guess liking anime is the new popular thing to do ^^;;

Greed
February 13th, 2006, 03:51 PM
And I sure as hell ain't one of them. =/ Meh, when I went to visit my relatives in Busan, South Korea, I saw a bunch of these girls wearing cat ears and TRYING to talk in Japanese... they failed terribly. 0_______oU

But I understand what you mean, it get's annoying as hell.
My God, there's people here like that too.

Most people are now starting to be manga artists wannabes. ._.; They attempt to draw anime, fail, and dare to call themselves anime artists.

Besides, most anime styles suck butt big time. --; The only anime artist that can really draw is Hiromu Arakawa, hands down.

viridian doubletongue
February 14th, 2006, 03:59 AM
I can see where people are coming from complaining about this.

I'm not Japanese or Asian in any way. I like anime, I like Manga. I am attempting to learn the language. I would never go cosplaying. I had a very basic understanding of the Japanese language from 2 places. A book which gives a list of rudimentary phrases, & seven years of Judo (this is mainly fighting terms.) I know very little of Japanese culture outside of this despite what I learnt having a Japanese exchange student live with my family for a couple of weeks. I've never wanted or needed to use Japanese words mixed with English. There's no point.

Kim
February 15th, 2006, 09:25 AM
What is it with all the non-Asian people trying to be Japanese? You see them all over Anime conventions... Last year when I went to Comic-Con in San Diego (going again this year, and I know I'll see them), you see a bunch of normal, regular girls with cat ears on. You can always expect to see one of these catgirls anywhere you go where there's anime or Fruits Basket. I mean, more power to them if they're trying to be original, but it's getting so used by people trying to adopt cultures with false information about them. They're all over the place. I respect the Asian culture, I study it myself, but... these people who have no idea what the culture is about are flipping out over these cat ears, even though they have no idea what they are. And this kind of person can be seen online. No offense to the people on this forum who do so, but what is with the Japanese names? Like... Kurosaki, Kazuhito, etc.? I thought about one myself a year ago, then I had to go wash my mouth out with soap. This is not intended to offend anyone, and I am sorry for the people I may and probably will offend. But please, can someone tell me why people are running away from their own cultures?

And to the other side of the story... Asian people trying to be white? Why can't anyone embrace their culture anymore? It just sickens me... there's this Korean kid at my school who died his hair blond, and I asked him why he did that, and why he wasn't proud of his descent. He said that he was not proud to be Korean, and that it was important to be really cool rather than respecting where you came from. You tell me... does what I (and you probably) see make any sense?
EDIT: Just found it... xD

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hahahahahahaha. Oh my gosh, your post is funny. Because it is SO TRUE.

I see girls all the time at the mall with those cat ears on. I love it when they say "i'm original!"...yeah...just like every other girl who does it? Sheesh.

I'm not an anime fan in the least. Is Pokemon considered anime? I don't watch it, just play the super old games on my Game Boy Color. THat's the most I delve into it. Heh.

I have been studying Japanese culture for quite some time now. Mainly the Geisha, teahouse owners, and the more "High society" folks in their culture and history. Nowhere did I ever see cat ears. I love it when people think all Japanese teenagers sport those cat ears and dress like little anime cartoons. A friend of mine is living in Japan right now with her family (her husband is stations in the Air Force)...I ought to ask her if that's how it really is.:laugh:

Hitokiri
February 15th, 2006, 10:59 AM
hahahahahahaha. Oh my gosh, your post is funny. Because it is SO TRUE.

I see girls all the time at the mall with those cat ears on. I love it when they say "i'm original!"...yeah...just like every other girl who does it? Sheesh.

I'm not an anime fan in the least. Is Pokemon considered anime? I don't watch it, just play the super old games on my Game Boy Color. THat's the most I delve into it. Heh.

I have been studying Japanese culture for quite some time now. Mainly the Geisha, teahouse owners, and the more "High society" folks in their culture and history. Nowhere did I ever see cat ears. I love it when people think all Japanese teenagers sport those cat ears and dress like little anime cartoons. A friend of mine is living in Japan right now with her family (her husband is stations in the Air Force)...I ought to ask her if that's how it really is.:laugh:

I think the only reason they buy cat ears is because they sell it at Hot Topic. Otaku wannabees will buy anything at hot topic XD

Jack O'Neill
February 15th, 2006, 06:24 PM
I think the only reason they buy cat ears is because they sell it at Hot Topic. Otaku wannabees will buy anything at hot topic XD
Well, Hot Topic is the root of all evil in contemporary pop culture, after all. xD

Inuyasha, Naruto, Fruits Basket, Trigun, Fullmetal Alchemist... I sincerely doubt that the majority of the people who buy the related merchandise know even the slightest bit about the associated anime/manga. Sad but true, I suppose...

Drifblim
February 15th, 2006, 07:44 PM
Well, by whacking us for trying to add a bit of Japanese element is certainly showing some prejudice. It's not the matter that we're trying to be Japanese ourselves; it's just some of the stuff associated with their culture that appeals to us naturally.

Hitokiri
February 16th, 2006, 05:43 AM
I just think it's annoying that kids who watch 2 episodes of Inuyasha and love it and buy all the merchandise and stuff do "fit it" think they're cooler than someone who's seen every episode of Inuyasha that doesn't buy all those and gear and stuff. ^.^;;

I've seen a ton of animes, whole seasons to. But I don't pronounce it in the streets. I keep my geeky side to myself XDD