SD Celebi team

[Squarewalker]

Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers ** Road Block
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 204 HP / 96 Atk / 56 Def / 152 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Well, since the most common starters nowadays are special based, Snorlax makes at least an ok lead.

Magneton @ Leftovers ** Electromagnet
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 108 HP / 72 Def / 152 Spd / 176 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Reflect
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

Not much to see here...

Gyarados (F) @ Leftovers ** NO ZAPDOS PLZ
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 148 HP / 132 Atk / 64 Def / 92 Spd / 72 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]

Double-Edge says a nice "sup" to weakened Zapdoses ;/

Swampert (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP / 136 Def / 72 SAtk / 60 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Roar

Sponges Mence and TTar hits. Not the best p-hazer, but meh. =/

Celebi @ Leftovers ** Facist Onion
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 76 Def / 156 Spd / 36 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Psychic
- Recover
- Swords Dance

The main idea of this team. Psychic is there, to not get walled by Weezing btw.

Metagross @ Leftovers ** EXTREMEHARDKORE
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 76 HP / 196 Atk / 112 Def / 88 Spd / 36 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Agility
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
- Rock Slide

Rock Slide for Zapdos btw.


so yeah, rate/hate/etc.

[aragornbird]

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You must be Torkoal_7 at Smogon since you posted the same exact team there.

Well, I guess I’ll give some advice here.

That Gyarados is super slow. It can’t even outrun DDtar. At least give it around 144 Speed EVs so it can outspeed Gengar, who can pose a threat to other members of your team.

Also watch out for Suicune, who is a very popular phazer and takes physical hits well. Magneton won’t like switching in on too many Surfs with its low Sp. Defense.


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[Squarewalker]

You must be Torkoal_7 at Smogon since you posted the same exact team there.
yeah

Well, I guess I’ll give some advice here.

That Gyarados is super slow. It can’t even outrun DDtar. At least give it around 144 Speed EVs so it can outspeed Gengar, who can pose a threat to other members of your team.
I like Gyarados rather to be able to switch into Megahorns and whatnot better with a more defensive EV spread, but I guess you're right. Going to give it more Spd then, though 92 Spd EVs should be enough, as Gengar isn't such a large threat for this team anyway (Celebi, Swampert and Metagross can all stop it dead cold).

Also watch out for Suicune, who is a very popular phazer and takes physical hits well. Magneton won’t like switching in on too many Surfs with its low Sp. Defense.

iirc Suicune is 3HKOed by Snorlax's Double-Edge, but yeah, it does cause problems. =/

[Synchronize]

You can always try (pulls a piece of paper out his ***) Toxic over D-E on Gyara.

[Espy Psyche]

Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers ** Road Block Chesto
Trait: Thick Fat Immunity
EVs: 204 HP / 96 Atk / 56 Def / 152 SDef 252 ATK/128 SD/128 HP
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk) Brave(ATK+/SPD-)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake Shadow Ball
- Rest
- Sleep Talk Belly Drum


Well, since the most common starters nowadays are special based, Snorlax makes at least an ok lead.
You will get screwed if you play me then because I lead off with Charmbreon.
Magneton @ Leftovers ** Electromagnet
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 108 HP / 72 Def / 152 Spd / 176 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Reflect
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt
HP Grass over Fire because T/Bolt already kills Skarm.
Not much to see here...

Gyarados (F) @ Leftovers ** NO ZAPDOS PLZ
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 148 HP / 132 Atk / 64 Def / 92 Spd / 72 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
Another thing to get screwed by my Charmbreon.
Double-Edge says a nice "sup" to weakened Zapdoses ;/

Swampert (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP / 136 Def / 72 SAtk / 60 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Roar
Surf over Roar
Sponges Mence and TTar hits. Not the best p-hazer, but meh. =/

Celebi @ Leftovers ** Facist Onion
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 76 Def / 156 Spd / 36 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Psychic
- Recover
- Swords Dance

The main idea of this team. Psychic is there, to not get walled by Weezing btw.

Metagross @ Leftovers ** EXTREMEHARDKORE
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 76 HP / 196 Atk / 112 Def / 88 Spd / 36 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Agility
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
- Rock Slide

Rock Slide for Zapdos btw.


so yeah, rate/hate/etc.
Agiligross is definitely>CBGross. I guess SD up with Celebi and BP to Meta/Swampy/Snorlax?

[Squarewalker]

@Synchronize: Toxic really sucks on offensive stuff. Zapdos can just use Rest (if it has it), and/or the opponent might pack a Heal Beller. Therefore it won't help.

@e4prosucker:

Your Snorlax set doesn't work, it will get 2HKOed by anything physical. It lacks the Spd and the Def stat to take advantage of the Atk boost it would get from Belly Drum IF it manages to get it in. But 99% of the time, it won't.

ie.
Pokemon used physical attack! >50% damage
Snorlax used Belly Drum! But it failed!

OR

Trainer withdrew Pokemon and sent out Pokemon!
Snorlax used Belly Drum!
Pokemon used physical attack! 50% damage. Snorlax fainted!

Resttalking Lax works just fine.

Magneton needs HP Fire for getting rid of Forretress.

Swampert is my only p-hazer, so taking off Roar would mean that random stat-uppers have a field day.

And yeah, Celebi passes SDs to everything other than Magneton.


Also, lol charmbreon. Metagross says hi to it, though lol who uses it (other than you) anyway?...

[Espy Psyche]

Plenty of people use charmbreon. The only thing on it that is my invention is HP Electric to kill Tauntridos.

[Squarewalker]

yet I haven't seen any of those in months. btw, hp electric is what makes yours worse than the standard charmbreon, as almost no one uses Tauntadros nowadays anyway, with the rise of Zapdos usage...

[Loyal Arcanine]

Plenty of people use charmbreon. The only thing on it that is my invention is HP Electric to kill Tauntridos.
Which makes me lol, since that makes it a useless Umbreon against anything not-Gyarados.

[Mullet]

Plenty of people use charmbreon. The only thing on it that is my invention is HP Electric to kill Tauntridos.

Umm does HP [Electric] even OHKO?

My damage calculator is messed up.:\

[Squarewalker]

Umm does HP [Electric] even OHKO.

My damage calculator is messed up. :\
It obviously doesn't. Umbreon would need like 100 SAtk EVs AND a +SAtk Nature in order to even have a chance at 2HKOing most Gyaradoses...which is lol.

[Mullet]

It obviously doesn't. Umbreon would need like 100 SAtk EVs AND a +SAtk Nature in order to even have a chance at 2HKOing most Gyaradoses...which is lol.

I was pretty sure it didn't. So Tauntdos kills it anyway. Plus Gyara's popularity has gone way down.

[Synchronize]

Plenty of people use charmbreon. The only thing on it that is my invention is HP Electric to kill Tauntridos.

I'm still trying to find out how you sleep peacefully ay night with worrying about me hunting you down.

[Espy Psyche]

It obviously doesn't. Umbreon would need like 100 SAtk EVs AND a +SAtk Nature in order to even have a chance at 2HKOing most Gyaradoses...which is lol.
Which is exactly what my charmbreon has. Modest nature and 100 SA EVs. This 2HKOs Gyarados if it gets an average of slightly less than average per hit. The average is 53% damage and it can only go as low as 49%.

e4 sent out Charmbreon
random NBer sent out Tauntridos
Tauntridos used Taunt
Charmbreon fell for the Taunt
Charmbreon used Hidden Power
It's super effective (53% damage)
Tauntridos used DD
It's ATK and SPD rose
Charmbreon used Hidden Power
It's super effective (53% damage)
Tauntridos fainted

This is how HP Electric works.

I am a ghost on the Internet. I have a dynamic IP address, a large alias ring, and the speed and stealth to avoid almost any threat. I have internet viruses at my disposal, along with NSA class hacking skills. If you want to take me on Synchronize you may, but I am warning you. If you play with fire you will get burned.

[Synchronize]

Which is exactly what my charmbreon has. Modest nature and 100 SA EVs. This 2HKOs Gyarados if it gets an average of slightly less than average per hit. The average is 53% damage and it can only go as low as 49%.

I am a ghost on the Internet. I have a dynamic IP address, a large alias ring, and the speed and stealth to avoid almost any threat. I have internet viruses at my disposal, along with NSA class hacking skills. If you want to take me on Synchronize you may, but I am warning you. If you play with fire you will get burned.


It's dumb to try and 2HKO a Gyarados with Umbreon, because now you have less EVs for Speed and defenses, which is what makes Umbreon actually useful

And lol. Your the one who's already gotten burned over your idiotic comments on what you think is good pokemon strategy. If you had any kind of hacking skills at all, I think you'd be intelligent enough to type in

www.smogon.com

and actually learn something about Pokemon.

[Mullet]

Which is exactly what my charmbreon has. Modest nature and 100 SA EVs. This 2HKOs Gyarados if it gets an average of slightly less than average per hit. The average is 53% damage and it can only go as low as 49%.

e4 sent out Charmbreon
random NBer sent out Tauntridos
Tauntridos used Taunt
Charmbreon fell for the Taunt
Charmbreon used Hidden Power
It's super effective (53% damage)
Tauntridos used DD
It's ATK and SPD rose
Charmbreon used Hidden Power
It's super effective (53% damage)
Tauntridos fainted

This is how HP Electric works.

I am a ghost on the Internet. I have a dynamic IP address, a large alias ring, and the speed and stealth to avoid almost any threat. I have internet viruses at my disposal, along with NSA class hacking skills. If you want to take me on Synchronize you may, but I am warning you. If you play with fire you will get burned.

Who in the hell would keep it in for you to HP [Electric] it. Why would it DD if it's about to be KO'd? Are you sure even set the defences and attack right, I mean you are e4?

Hacking has nothing to do with him hunting you down.:\

[husk1442]

I am a ghost on the Internet. I have a dynamic IP address, a large alias ring, and the speed and stealth to avoid almost any threat. I have internet viruses at my disposal, along with NSA class hacking skills. If you want to take me on Synchronize you may, but I am warning you. If you play with fire you will get burned.

The above response shows you know very little about hacking or are trying to over simlify your words until they don't mean what you meant. Slightly off topic, but, seriously if someone wanted to hack you they could. Someone being, someone of my meager hacking skills or less.

HP: electric pert is amazing, just fyi

[Mullet]

The above response shows you know very little about hacking or are trying to over simlify your words until they don't mean what you meant. Slightly off topic, but, seriously if someone wanted to hack you they could. Someone being, someone of my meager hacking skills or less.

HP: electric pert is amazing, just fyi

Husk is so cool.

He is going to hack you.:D

[Loyal Arcanine]

Which is exactly what my charmbreon has. Modest nature and 100 SA EVs. This 2HKOs Gyarados if it gets an average of slightly less than average per hit. The average is 53% damage and it can only go as low as 49%.

e4 sent out Charmbreon
random NBer sent out Tauntridos
Tauntridos used Taunt
Charmbreon fell for the Taunt
Charmbreon used Hidden Power
It's super effective (53% damage)
Tauntridos used DD
It's ATK and SPD rose
Charmbreon used Hidden Power
It's super effective (53% damage)
Tauntridos fainted

This is how HP Electric works.

Dude, this is NOT how it works. Only a retard would leave Gyarados in when he senses it might be 2HKO'ed. So I guess you would leave it in. You can't Mean Look because of Taunt and it will not use Dragon Dance, but switch out.

[Paradise]

The only possible way that could be good is if you mean look one on the switch, and then proceed to kill it. And it still takes up room for speed and defenses. You can't sacrifice a moveslot and a hundred ev's and a +def nature just for a single pokemon, which, btw, is drastically dying out.

[Golden Groudon]

Guys shut up. E4proplayer is like the master. HP electic is the best thing since icecream. Btw, I have 1337 hacking skills too. I hacked into the white house once. I will blow up the internet.