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Burninating_Torchic
February 7th, 2006, 02:37 PM
From what I've seen, almost every RP here is a fantasy-style RP. With maybe a few futuristic RPs.
But what I haven't seen is a modern-day, realistic RP. Why is this? Because people don't think they're that interesting?
IMO, a realistic/modern RP could have some quite practical uses.

1st Example: A School RP. Not a school full of kids with super-powers or whatever, but just a regular high school. The practical use of this is that people are able to slightly alter an aspect of their real life and convey it creatively, and, quite frankly, I could definitely see people getting help with their everyday problems through the RP posts of others.

2nd Example: A war RP. Not a war full of laser guns or magic staves, but with current day technology. The practical use of this could be to touch on the world of politics, potentially show people what wars are like from other countries' perspectives, and maybe, just maybe, even inspire people to go out and do something with their lives.

Comments, anyone?

Flabébé
February 8th, 2006, 01:14 PM
You have a good point. I modern day RP would be would be cool, I like the High School idea. It might be able to help people out with their bullying problems or solve how to stop being bullied.

~Ozy~
February 8th, 2006, 01:59 PM
For the most part, because there's very little common intrest there. People RP to escape their norm, not to solve the issues that exist within it, or to fantisize instead of seeing more of the same. It is a vessel for people to be someone they are not, who can do things they cannot, and fantasy/sci-fi are the two easiste ways to do this.

Zelos
February 8th, 2006, 02:16 PM
Yeah, I agree with what ~Ozy~ said, people come here to role-play about fantasy and stuff that they normally couldn't do, not what they go every day to school to do. They experience this stuff about every day, so why would you want to come to a board and relive it all? o.O

Lily
February 8th, 2006, 02:19 PM
Reality's boring. =( You have a point; it's might be fun to shape our everyday lives into an RP...but I'm already living it (that's bad enough).

Besides, people normally prefer to stray from what's average during roleplays. But anyway, no one's stopping you from creating one..

Electric Hero
February 8th, 2006, 02:21 PM
Like Ozy here said, people RP because they want more, they want to be something they are not, or can't be. Sometimes RPing can be better that writing, becaus ein RPs you can actually interact with other people, that you wouldn't be able in your town, state, or even country.

Maybe people like you, that like a lot what they have, and like to RP too, want to do something they usually do... or they like a lot, like school, or their very life. Usually young ones, kids, want some realistic RPs because they don't need happiness from fantasies or another worlds, because they have enough with what they have, but when someone grows older, there are chances that like you get to know better this world, you realize you need fantasies and another worlds to be happy.. because this one is... going down... maybe.

Burninating_Torchic
February 8th, 2006, 02:33 PM
Well, it seems you're all talking about the school RP type thing.
Actually, in my RP, I actually did incorporate my school INTO a fantasy setting...so, yeah.

But, the other thing to consider is a present day war. Ozy said RPing is to be something they normally couldn't; well, I think going to war and stuff is probably something the average person doesnt do =/

Loki
February 8th, 2006, 02:41 PM
Yeah, but you're school in the RP plays such a little role that now it's run down shack covered in blood

Burninating_Torchic
February 8th, 2006, 02:42 PM
Yeah, but you're school in the RP plays such a little role that now it's run down shack covered in blood

True. But every character I RP is actually based off a real person, including Jirae.

Lily
February 8th, 2006, 02:56 PM
It's true realistic characters/setting/themes might have been incorporated into the rpg, but in such way that one can easily differentiate between unrealism and our daily lives. Perhaps that's why the difference between our lives and fantasy styled rpgs seems vast?

Jack O'Neill
February 8th, 2006, 05:06 PM
I for one would like to see a modern-day (or close to it, like World War II) war RP. Less swords and bows, less lightsabres and blasters, more M1 Garands and AK-47s. Less knights on horseback, less spacecraft, more Panzers and MiGs.

You've all fought in medieval and futuristic settings. Why not storm the beaches of Normandy, drive a Russian tank around Kursk, or pilot a B-29 on a bombing run over Japan? Why not battle North Koreans on the 38th parallel, be it in the cockpit of an F-86 Sabre or with an M1 Garand in your hands? Why not hunt down Viet Cong along the Ho Chi Minh Trail or duel North Vietnamese MiGs in a trusty F-4 Phantom? Why not battle Saddam Hussein's Republican Guard on the outskirts of Baghdad or track down Taliban forces in the mountains of Afghanistan?

Even "realistic" combat with good old guns and tanks can be escapist enough for your wants or needs. xP

Electric Hero
February 8th, 2006, 05:20 PM
Unfortunately Jack O'Neill, World War II RPs are not allowed for one reason: the whole war was against the jews. Even the games of World War II are really great, PC can't accept RPs that mention something against religions. Yea, it's great to have a scoped Mosin-Nagat and firing, but this can cause problems. I have asked David if I could create a WW II RP... he just asked me to avoid mentioning all that... I said I was going to be careful, but then I realized, there was going to be someone to mention all that... so I made another realistic war, like WW II but it was not the same war.

So that's why no one can create a WW II RP... well... we can... but there is allways going to be someone who mentions tragedies against jews (newbies, or n00bs, or even someone that thinks he can say it).

Jack O'Neill
February 8th, 2006, 05:33 PM
Unfortunately Jack O'Neill, World War II RPs are not allowed for one reason: the whole war was against the jews. Even the games of World War II are really great, PC can't accept RPs that mention something against religions. Yea, it's great to have a scoped Mosin-Nagat and firing, but this can cause problems. I have asked David if I could create a WW II RP... he just asked me to avoid mentioning all that... I said I was going to be careful, but then I realized, there was going to be someone to mention all that... so I made another realistic war, like WW II but it was not the same war.

So that's why no one can create a WW II RP... well... we can... but there is allways going to be someone who mentions tragedies against jews (newbies, or n00bs, or even someone that thinks he can say it).
Who said we have to limit a World War II RP to just the European theatre of operations? We could relocate it to the Pacific theatre of operations; last time I checked, the Japanese didn't persecute Jews.

Of course, there are the wars after World War II (Korea, Vietnam, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and the various wars in Iraq, among others) and the wars before it (namely, World War I). Just don't go too far back or forward in time, or we're back to the same old medieval and futuristic RPs we're trying to escape in the first place.

Alana
February 8th, 2006, 05:33 PM
War can be a bit of a dangerous subject. Realistic war anyway. The main problem would be dragging politics into it. If that happened it's very likely a flame war would break out.

However I do see your point. I created a couple High School themed RPGs that went pretty well. True they never finished and the one I posted on here was a High School dance but it was still pretty fun. :P And school RPGs don't have to be related to our actual life. There could be a festival at the school or, like the one I made, a dance. Something that ties it into modern life but also makes it fun. That's why people create RPGs that have kids with special powers in some kind of school.

However, I don't think people will join an RPG that is nothing more than an every day school with no special events or anything. Who would want to go to school when they got home? :P

Burninating_Torchic
February 8th, 2006, 05:35 PM
yeah, I think WWII is an example. Obviously that wouldn't be a good idea.
But massive global scale wars that aren't based on anti-(insert religion here) could work.

Now that I think about it, I couldn't understand a single word in Jack O' Neil's post...=P

Loki
February 8th, 2006, 05:36 PM
Well isn't this getting popular? I think a war would be a good idea, but it'd be limited to few RPers. Everyone knows what a standard Bow and Arrow is, but not many people know what the G-21 blah blah blah whatever is. (Personally I don't know either, that was just a random set of letters and numbers) So that would constrict the member choice, but then again, most RP's aren't setting out to please the world, I just know that it wouldn't appeal to me personally.

Jack O'Neill
February 8th, 2006, 05:40 PM
War can be a bit of a dangerous subject. Realistic war anyway. The main problem would be dragging politics into it. If that happened it's very likely a flame war would break out.
What politics is there in being a Filipino POW taking part in the Bataan Death March? What politics is there in flying an F6F Hellcat to defend your fleet from kamikazes? What politics is there in raising the flag over Iwo Jima?

Alana
February 8th, 2006, 05:43 PM
Poltics and war are tied together. If there's a war then politics has a part in it. After all, who sends us to war? Who authorizes us to go to war? The government and the president right? So that's how it could be tied in. I know it doesn't seem like it would cause a problem but it could. Not a very high chance but you're talking to Ms. Paranoid so I can always find problems with things like that. :P

Jack O'Neill
February 8th, 2006, 05:55 PM
Burninating_Torchic: It's O'Neill with two Ls. There's another Colonel O'Neil with only one L. He has no sense of humour at all. xP

Naoko-chan: Well, that's why they invented Wikipedia. You don't know about a gun or an airplane? Look it up. xP

Alana: Why draw attention to politics in the first place? Call of Duty or Battlefield 1942 don't pay attention to the politics of World War II; they just draw you right into the gunslinging and the bloodshed. An war-based RP should be like that too.

pokejungle
February 8th, 2006, 06:03 PM
Ummm, in some forums High School RPs are rampant x_x

And part of the reason people roleplay is to have a different set of rules and conditions than real life~~ we try to get as far from realistic as possible. =D

Jack O'Neill
February 8th, 2006, 06:12 PM
And part of the reason people roleplay is to have a different set of rules and conditions than real life~~ we try to get as far from realistic as possible. =D
Extrapolating from that, then why do people play games like Call of Duty, Battlefield 1942, Splinter Cell, and Counter-Strike? They adhere to reality as close as possible, yet gamers can find escape in them, much like your typical Final Fantasy or Tales of Symphonia gamer.

Less Lloyd Irving, more Sam Fisher. xP

Burninating_Torchic
February 8th, 2006, 06:17 PM
That's exactly the thing about a realistic war RP/Game: It's something very different from everyday life, but it's not too far-out and overfabricated.

pokejungle
February 8th, 2006, 06:36 PM
Extrapolating from that, then why do people play games like Call of Duty, Battlefield 1942, Splinter Cell, and Counter-Strike? They adhere to reality as close as possible, yet gamers can find escape in them, much like your typical Final Fantasy or Tales of Symphonia gamer.

Less Lloyd Irving, more Sam Fisher. xP
I was on the High School RPing topic. War = not realistic for the average person.

Therefore, what is foriegn is accepted.

Loki
February 8th, 2006, 06:51 PM
They adhere to reality as close as possible, yet gamers can find escape in them, much like your typical Final Fantasy or Tales of Symphonia gamer.

Yes, but you don't exactly see monsters running all over the place, aeons dancing around each time you 'summon' them, and you don't exactly see people changing 'jobs' in the middle of a battle, especially when they change to things like 'alchemist' or, 'white mage'. You don't see magic in realistic RP's, so I wouldn't relate real life to Final Fantasy. The only thing I would relate are the graphics, and the settings, and even the settings aren't that realistic. Imagine seeing a blitzball arena. Whoo-wee. Not gonna happen soon. Don't generalize Final Fantasy or Tales of Symphonia gamers according to the way you feel, because personally I don't think Final Fantasy is realistically oriented to real life at all. You have to think about it.

As for the real world RP, the reason most people don't do those RPs, is because, you need a plot for that, and not many average kids are gonna try to pull some kind of dictator down, or live their way through high school. These did appear, high school RPs such as 'Live your way through bullies, pop quizzes, and getting shoved into lockers!'. But they just don't last, because nobody wants to roleplay going to school realistically, because then you get to listen to the teacher drone on forever. Trust me, in as many High school RP's I've been in, (Gaia) they all die after the tardy bell rings. You'd need someone who's willing to make realistic things happen within the RP, someone who doesn't care if they look desperate for something to happen, which doesn't happen often. Because really that's the only way you meet someone, is if you shove yourself to their attention and say 'hi!'. To me, I hate making first moves and syuffs like that. Makes me feel like I'm shamefully yelling 'Hey pay attention to me god****it!'. Even though I'm really not.

Burninating_Torchic
February 8th, 2006, 06:58 PM
Yes, but you don't exactly see monsters running all over the place, aeons dancing around each time you 'summon' them, and you don't exactly see people changing 'jobs' in the middle of a battle, especially when they change to things like 'alchemist' or, 'white mage'. You don't see magic in realistic RP's, so I wouldn't relate real life to Final Fantasy. The only thing I would relate are the graphics, and the settings, and even the settings aren't that realistic. Imagine seeing a blitzball arena. Whoo-wee. Not gonna happen soon. Don't generalize Final Fantasy or Tales of Symphonia gamers according to the way you feel, because personally I don't think Final Fantasy is realistically oriented to real life at all. You have to think about it.

I think you misunderstood what he was saying. He said that realistic games like war games allow you to find escape, and final fantasy allows you to find escape, and therefore they're similiar in that aspect.

Jack O'Neill
February 8th, 2006, 07:06 PM
I think you misunderstood what he was saying. He said that realistic games like war games allow you to find escape, and final fantasy allows you to find escape, and therefore they're similiar in that aspect.
THANK YOU!!! Finally, somebody here at least understands my views.

Electric Hero
February 9th, 2006, 12:19 AM
Yea, there should be RPs like Call of Duty... or Call of Duty, even better than the first one with the best campaign, the Russian one. I would like to have an M1 Garand and a scoped Mosin-Nagat, or fly a Hurricane or a jet-propelled Meteor (it was the first jet-propelled airplane, and it was used in WW II). And even we don't mention anything related to politics, there is always, or can be someone that mention it... anyway... if we are going to do an RP like that, I say that the ones that want to enter (always consider me in!) first promise that they are not going to mention anything that starts up something bad, and then we all enjoy... if something related to this comes up, let me know! =)

Syousuke
February 9th, 2006, 02:10 AM
I completely agree with burninating torchic.

Even though i dont participate or like RPs. I just think his perspectives have to be taken granted.

Lily
February 9th, 2006, 01:05 PM
As I said before, no one's stopping anyone from creating these type of RPGs. If you think there should be a specific type of RPG, then, by all means, make one. o.x;

Shadowfaith
February 9th, 2006, 01:29 PM
Like Lileh said, you think there should be more realistic RPG's, then go and create one. It so happens that people who RPG here prefere fantasy RPG's other wise the would nnot create them or join them XP

Gohan
February 9th, 2006, 05:33 PM
Heh, how did I know I could find Max-Hunter here?

His war/strategy/brothers in arms RPs are really good. He should open a new one. As for modern day ones, I think school ones are more interesting, but most of those are found in Pkmn RP.

Yeah, I made up my mind. Gonna go start one. Heh. Meh ish crazeh.

Fantasy RPs are fun though. Who doesn't want to go join a 'Norse Mythology' one? And who doesn't want to shapeshift/fly/shoot people with laser guns? .... I'm not helping, am I?

Electric Hero
February 9th, 2006, 07:54 PM
Wow, I don't know Gohan, he goes from place to place in the blink of an eye! oh wait, I'm Max!! XD. Oh Gohan, c'mon! we know each other from a long time ago, when lightsabers, X-wings and A-wings were used! call me just Max, and the username is with a space.

Oh, and... stop embarrasing me Gohan, you are telling everyone my RPs rock!!! ........ It's an habit of mine to idiotize myself... sometimes saying everything mine sucks, or even I suck.... but that's why 'cause I'm too good to tell everyone I rock... I'm too modest. But anyway, thanks for saying they rock and that I should do a new one! =D I should consider making a new one... but oh well... time will come, don't worry.

And just like you said, most school RPs are in the Pokmon section because the pokmon school plays a role in that world. And maybe because people has just realized going from place to place battling with pokmon is boring... well, kinda... XD. Yea, there should be a School RP here, in the Other Section, it should be as normal as possible... but with some good story too... I may should do it!!! ......

... but while that happens... Cuidado mi pequeo gran rockstar!!

phunboy
February 10th, 2006, 02:00 AM
1st Example: A School RP. Not a school full of kids with super-powers or whatever, but just a regular high school. The practical use of this is that people are able to slightly alter an aspect of their real life and convey it creatively, and, quite frankly, I could definitely see people getting help with their everyday problems through the RP posts of others.

I been on a forum with one of those and it was pretty popular though it really isn't my kind of thing.
For the most part, because there's very little common intrest there. People RP to escape their norm, not to solve the issues that exist within it, or to fantisize instead of seeing more of the same. It is a vessel for people to be someone they are not, who can do things they cannot, and fantasy/sci-fi are the two easiste ways to do this.
Exactly, because if I am gonna roleplay why would I wanna do something I could do or do everyday like go to school. I mean I rather be an ancient vampire or mage or something along those lines as I never could be those things and that is what RP'ing is about. Playing a role of something to escape reality and being a teen in HS isn't that unless of course your an alien or something like that.
As I said before, no one's stopping anyone from creating these type of RPGs. If you think there should be a specific type of RPG, then, by all means, make one. o.x;
Ya I don't see why you don't just make one if you want one so bad, I know if I wanted to see a certain type of RP I like to participate in I make one if one didn't exist already.

Gohan
March 2nd, 2006, 07:35 PM
Blink of an eye?! Man I want your powers so bad. :)

Sorry. I like using hyphens. :)

Don't idiotize yourself... Be a happy person, and enjoy the views of life and such.

...

Okay, that was such crap, I'm going to stop trying to be optimistic.
And your RpG stuffinessesssses does rock. RpG! w00tness

Electric Hero
March 5th, 2006, 04:17 PM
Of course you want my powers... but you will not have them! MWAHAHAHA XD.

And... I idiotize myself because I'm too modest... and... I'm more optimist than you are! being optimist doesn't mean I have to yell around that my RPs rock... that's the job of the RPers if they like them XD nah just kidding. Anyone can say whatever he or she wants... and... even I'm too modest... very deep within me... I know they rock XD. Ok, I'm joking... again. Anyway... I have to say thanks for thinking that way about my RPs... and my RPing skills... I really appreciate it.

Karmillina
April 2nd, 2006, 06:11 PM
You're right!! Maybe I can do something like that ^^
Let me think about a good plot, You've inspired me XD