NB team

[Silverwing]

I'm more of an NBer than a Ru/Sa/E/FR/LG/whatever you want to call iter. I like to be creative with my movesets and Pokemon, though this team is one of my more standardish teams.

Sceptile (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 16 Def / 216 Spd / 252 SAtk / 24 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Focus Punch
- Leaf Blade
- Leech Seed
- Substitute

Trying out focus punch just because. I never found attack EVs useful since it will always beat bliss/lax if it gets a leech seed in and thats the only reason focus punch is there.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 156 Def / 16 SAtk / 96 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Surf
- Toxic

Toxic because it can outstall Vaporeon which i see more of everyday. I might switch back to roar because of the lack of p/hazer.

Aerodactyl (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

Most teams these days have an Aero weakness because of the usual Zappy/Hera/Gross/Mence ect.

Dusclops (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 92 Atk / 100 Def / 64 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Pain Split
- Shadow Ball
- Will-O-Wisp

I like this thing. 92 Atk EVs to OHKO zam with a shadow ball.

Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 180 HP / 252 Atk / 76 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Return
- Shadow Ball
- Substitute

SubPunch lax. I thought i might want to try it out. This is a more offensive spread because I like being able to hit things hard with snorlax with that wonderful 110 base attack. I don't like the fact that it can't recover itself when hurt besides lefties and Sceptile's leech seed but those are unreliable because they don't recover that much HP.

Forretress (F) @ Leftovers ** Battle Armor
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Steel]
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes

Spinner/Spiker/Def wall. Giving Gengar free subs isn't my idea of fun and HP:Rock/Rock Slide on Forry sucks.

Rate plz. Thanx in advance.

[swiftcommander]

I'm more of an NBer than a Ru/Sa/E/FR/LG/whatever you want to call iter. I like to be creative with my movesets and Pokemon, though this team is one of my more standardish teams.

Sceptile (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 16 Def / 216 Spd / 252 SAtk / 24 SDef 252 SA/252 SPD/ 6 HP
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) Modest(SA+/ATK-)
- Focus Punch Crunch
- Leaf Blade
- Leech Seed T/Punch
- Substitute Dragon Claw
Special Sceptile is like Special Charizard, effective with limited uses. Try it.
Trying out focus punch just because. I never found attack EVs useful since it will always beat bliss/lax if it gets a leech seed in and thats the only reason focus punch is there.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 156 Def / 16 SAtk / 96 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Surf
- Toxic I/Beam

Toxic because it can outstall Vaporeon which i see more of everyday. I might switch back to roar because of the lack of p/hazer.Vaporeon can't beat Suicune anyway without a freeze.

Aerodactyl (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) Jolly (SPD+/SA-)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

Most teams these days have an Aero weakness because of the usual Zappy/Hera/Gross/Mence ect.
good

Dusclops (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 92 Atk / 100 Def / 64 SDef 252 HP/92 SA/62 DEF/100 SD
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) (SD+/SPD-)
- Focus Punch I/Beam
- Pain Split C Ray
- Shadow Ball
- Will-O-Wisp

I like this thing. 92 Atk EVs to OHKO zam with a shadow ball.
Ice Beam Clops is very much a surprise to Mence.
Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 180 HP / 252 Atk / 76 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Return
- Shadow Ball
- Substitute

SubPunch lax. I thought i might want to try it out. This is a more offensive spread because I like being able to hit things hard with snorlax with that wonderful 110 base attack. I don't like the fact that it can't recover itself when hurt besides lefties and Sceptile's leech seed but those are unreliable because they don't recover that much HP.
I like e4's powerlax more.

Forretress (F) @ Leftovers ** Battle Armor
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def 252 HP/100 ATK/158 DEF
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) or Relaxed
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Steel]
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes

Spinner/Spiker/Def wall. Giving Gengar free subs isn't my idea of fun and HP:Rock/Rock Slide on Forry sucks.
Never thought of that. That will work better if you take DEF EVs and put them into ATK.
Rate plz. Thanx in advance.
C Ray and WoW are an awesome combo because it protects you

[Squarewalker]

I'm more of an NBer than a Ru/Sa/E/FR/LG/whatever you want to call iter. I like to be creative with my movesets and Pokemon, though this team is one of my more standardish teams.

Sceptile (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 16 Def / 216 Spd / 252 SAtk / 24 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Focus Punch
- Leaf Blade
- Leech Seed
- Substitute

Trying out focus punch just because. I never found attack EVs useful since it will always beat bliss/lax if it gets a leech seed in and thats the only reason focus punch is there.
Leech Seed already beats Blissey and Snorlax, so Focus Punch is redundant. HP Ice/Fire over FP for hitting Salamence and steel types respectively. Also, max spd. Those random Def and SDef EVs won't help it.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 156 Def / 16 SAtk / 96 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Surf
- Toxic

Toxic because it can outstall Vaporeon which i see more of everyday. I might switch back to roar because of the lack of p/hazer.
Needs at least 212 Def. Definitly switch back to Roar, as Roarcune with Spikes support can be a real pain to take down. If you want to be able to beat Vaporeon though... Roar might work over CM then. =/

Aerodactyl (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

Most teams these days have an Aero weakness because of the usual Zappy/Hera/Gross/Mence ect.
k

Dusclops (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 92 Atk / 100 Def / 64 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Pain Split
- Shadow Ball
- Will-O-Wisp

I like this thing. 92 Atk EVs to OHKO zam with a shadow ball.
With 24 Atk EVs it can already OHKO most Zams, so take away from that Atk, as well as give it less def, and make sure that it's SDef stat reaches 330-340.

Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 180 HP / 252 Atk / 76 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Return
- Shadow Ball
- Substitute

SubPunch lax. I thought i might want to try it out. This is a more offensive spread because I like being able to hit things hard with snorlax with that wonderful 110 base attack. I don't like the fact that it can't recover itself when hurt besides lefties and Sceptile's leech seed but those are unreliable because they don't recover that much HP.
With all those Zapdoses nowadays, using Snorlax w/o Rest or w/o a back-up special wall (Dusclops doesn't really count) isn't a good idea, as it will get taken down too fast. But if it works for you...

Forretress (F) @ Leftovers ** Battle Armor
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Steel]
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes

Spinner/Spiker/Def wall. Giving Gengar free subs isn't my idea of fun and HP:Rock/Rock Slide on Forry sucks.
eww hp steel... I recommend HP Bug over it. If Gengar switches in, just switch to Dusclops, since Gengar can't do much to 'clops anyway.

Rate plz. Thanx in advance.
Well, your team could sure use some wish support. Especially seeing, as it is more of a defensive team, you probably don't want your team to get taken down too fast by constant offense.


btw, swiftcommander, don't rate teams if you don't know what works, and what doesn't on NB.

[Synchronize]

Vaporeon has something called haze, which helps support the team against Suicune. Btw, Ice Beam on Dusclops and "Powerlax" fail.

[Espy Psyche]

swiftcommander is smart enough to know that Vap has Haze. It is just not as effective at stopping Suicune for Vaporeon as you think because Vap has nothing to kill Suicune.
And for anyone who doesn't know about powerlax here is the set.
Snorlax@Chesto Berry^^Powerlax
252 ATK/128 HP/128 SD
Shadow Ball
Double-Edge
Rest
Belly Drum
Brave nature
I find this able to kill more enemies faster than Curselax.
Whenever you post a name of a set that is not widely known please give the set. OK swiftcommander?

[Silverwing]

Snorlax@Chesto Berry^^Powerlax
252 ATK/128 HP/128 SD
Shadow Ball
Double-Edge
Rest
Belly Drum
Brave nature

I don't like drumlax especially with DE and no lefites. That thing will go down waaaaaaay too quickly and those EVs suck. No offense, but this has to be one of the worse snorlax i have ever seen.

[Ice demon]

Or..

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 210 HP / 96 Atk / 50 Def / 152 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Sleep Talk


hahaaaaaa e4 has a student?
Gross...