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Karasuma
February 14th, 2006, 07:21 PM
I've noticed this in a site and it kept me thinking "who is Ash's Father?" they never show a flashback or a single picture of him.

It goes like this:
We know he is/was a Pokemon trainer, who reached Viridian City in four days. Supposedly, he thinks highly of Ash, and would be proud of his accomplishments (as we hear in Episode 2). After this, "Mr. Ketchum" is never heard of again (unless you believe that Giovanni is really Ash's father... making for a weird Star Wars cliche). Delia mentions "straightening her life out after meeting Ash's father" in Pokemon Live, but that stage production isn't really official. And besides, Ash's mom seems awfully attached to Professor Oak. Will the real Mr. Ketchum please stand up?

Evil Cassidy writes: "I believed that Ash`s father`s Giovanni & that is rumored that Giovanni wanted Ash to become the next TR leader but failed when he & Delia broke up & Ash became a good guy!"

Arukenimon writes: "I heard my best friend, Evil Cassidy, wrote that it's Giovanni but I belive it's Lance from Elite 4. But I dun think so it's true."

Esther writes: "I think I found out something that might go against the Giovanni-is-Ash's-Father Deal. Remember in Mewtwo Returns, where Ash and Gio meet for (presumably) the first time? Well I noticed that there wasn't any recognition on either side, as others have pointed out as well. If Gio was keeping tabs on his "son", he would (hopefully) know what Ash looked like, so he would have recognized him, right? I would think so."


Nekusagi writes: "Ash's Father: Hmm... reached Viridian in 4 days. Gee, wonder who the leader of Viridian City Gym is? Wouldnt be Giovanni, would it now? Considering most fanboys/girls believe Viridian to be OWNED practically by TR (how else would he operate it w.out being suspected of anything)....

His dad is very proud of him.... Yeah, I'd be proud of my son too, if I knew he beat the stuffing out of my least favorite Agents everyday so I wouldn't have to. Saves time, yknow?

And no, evil parentage is NOT a star wars cliche. It is an ancient archetype, in which the persona (hero) springs from the darkness (in this case, Gio) to eventually defeat it. Although personally I wouldn't mind seeing Ash join Team Rocket- talk about irony.
Diamondshippers forever!!!!!!!

Once again, a theory that supports diamondshipping:
Giovanni wants to see his son, right? So don't you think it'd make sense to take what Ash likes best to MAKE HIM COME BACK AND GET IT? Yep. Exactly. Dragonite said something to that effect.-


From Pianissimo-sama: "Who ever the heck it is, it is NOT Giovonni! If you play FR/LG, and talk to the scientist on 5 island, he'll say to you "are you Giovonni's kid? Oh wait, he has red hair!" Notice that your RIVAL has red hair (not brown) which is my conclusion that Giovonni is Gary's father!!! It sounds unresonable, but still..... "


Evil Pikachu writes: "Maybe Giovanni's son (the one mentioned by the scientist in Island 5 in FRLG) is your rival in GSC? You know, he has red hair (Gary's hair still looks brown to me), and he STEALS POKEMON! It could be true, seeing all the mentionings of Johto in FRLG (especially in the Fame Checker entries: "Bruno was dissapointed because they were sold out of RAGECANDYBARS," "Lance has a cousin who's a Gym Leader far away." -- who's probably CLAIRE, the dragon gymleader in Johto -- etc.)

This was "borrowed" from a Fame Checker FAQ in GameFAQs by Yameneko549. Here's the link to this FAQ (copy and paste in browser, GameFAQs doesn't accept direct linking): http://db.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbadvance/file/pokemon_frlg_fame_checker.txt"


Yameneko549 writes: "Under the "Who IS Ash's father anyway?" section, Evil Pikachu mentioned that the G\S\C rival, Silver, known as Kamon by some, could be Giovanni's son thanks to the Fame Checker entry for Giovanni in Pokemon FireRed\LeafGreen. That explination is what most people accept as a fact, and I'm going to have to agree with it. It makes the most sense, since he seems to almost help Team Rocket at times, such as attempting to weaken you in the Goldenrod Underground before you fight some Rocket Grunts. He also seems to have Giovanni's attitude towards pokemon.
There is a chance that Kamon and Ash are brothers or half brothers, though. Because of that, the possibility of Giovanni being Ash's father is still there.

As for Gary's hair color, it's brown.

Dragonspirit1993 writes: "I am positive I know who Giovanni's son is. And it's not Ash/Satoshi/Red. For ANYONE who has looked at Pokespecial, a manga, Silver is Giovonni's son. Who is Silver? Anyone who had played Pokemon Silver and Gold should know. He's the guy who stole the Pokemon."

So who is Ash's dad?

Soul-Music
February 15th, 2006, 04:13 AM
Well, I've been thinking that too for so long. That issue is so like I dunno 2

years or so but has not been answered yet. Yes, rumors are spreading that

Giovanni is Ash's father but I don't believe a word of it. Probably in the future

he might show up as the series goes on.

Miss Reyna
February 15th, 2006, 05:07 AM
Ash's father was only metion a few times in the begining of the sereis and never again. His dad isn't that important anyways. It has nothing to do with teh sereis and we will never hear or see of him again.

I would like to see him but still. he not that really important to know.

Charaxes
February 15th, 2006, 10:28 AM
I remember a site Pokemonica, that had an early transcript/diary by Shudo, detailing Satoshi's father to a degree. Unfortunately unless you know Japanese writing, it wouldn't help you. Besides, Sho Pro found out and shut the site down. It was an English site, so it was a rather asinine shut down as it was for people who don't know Japanese but yeah.

So there IS a document about the father, just no one knows what.

Chiru
February 15th, 2006, 05:09 PM
I personally think that Giovanni as Ash's father is a little weird. Silver (the GSC rival) is officially Giovanni's son in Pokemon special, and there is a reference to that in the games as well with the team rocket member in FR/LG mentioning Giovanni having a son with red hair. If Ash is Giovanni's son, then that would mean that he and the GSC rival are at least half-brothers, which strikes me as a little odd. It would be interesting, but very strange nonetheless.

I personally think that Ash's dad isn't really important to the storyline and was never really meant to be revealed. He's probably just some random guy who's out there somewhere. If he ever were to be revealed, though, something tells me it'd be toward the very end of the anime series.

Poke Mastr
February 15th, 2006, 05:59 PM
Ash's father is Darth Vader! :O

Did anyone ever think that maybe his father died before he was born or when he was a little kid?

Duh...

Houndour2004
February 16th, 2006, 01:31 AM
I won't think it's Giovanni either!

Robert0427
February 16th, 2006, 03:49 AM
Its gonna be like the story line from Duel Masters where the main character's father comes out of nowhere... i suspect this will happen in pokemon soon

DestinyOfAsh
February 16th, 2006, 02:36 PM
Hmm well Ash's father is still covered in mystery just as chiru said if we do ever get to see him it probably won't be to the very end of the series

Nox30_04
February 16th, 2006, 04:20 PM
I'm not sure who Ash's father could be, but to reply to a statement made earlier in the thread about the rival in the g/s/c games could be giovanni's son, however if anyone else noticed the other one in that game with red hair is Bill, even though its brown in the r/b/g/y and in fr/lg so maybe brown isn't his real hair colour?

Light_Azumarill
February 17th, 2006, 08:44 AM
Um, the fact that Giovanni ever actually wooed a woman is what scares me the most. Ewww! XD

Seriously though, I never believed that he was Ash's father. Other than Pokemon Live, which is most certainly nothing official, there really is no evidence to back it up. I don't even think that Giovanni wants Pikachu... has he ever actually expressed an interest in it? It always seems like Jessie, James, and Meowth are the ones to like it.

I have always believed that Ash's father is just someone that is never around, someone we'll never get to see, and when the end of the show rolls around, we'll be left going, "Eh?" Just my opinion though. ^-^

-:Buro-kun Tsubasa:-
February 17th, 2006, 10:02 AM
Maybe just an idea, but maybe Brock? I don't have anything to back it up, just an idea.

SBaby
February 17th, 2006, 10:11 AM
I personally think that Giovanni as Ash's father is a little weird. Silver (the GSC rival) is officially Giovanni's son in Pokemon special, and there is a reference to that in the games as well with the team rocket member in FR/LG mentioning Giovanni having a son with red hair. If Ash is Giovanni's son, then that would mean that he and the GSC rival are at least half-brothers, which strikes me as a little odd. It would be interesting, but very strange nonetheless.

I personally think that Ash's dad isn't really important to the storyline and was never really meant to be revealed. He's probably just some random guy who's out there somewhere. If he ever were to be revealed, though, something tells me it'd be toward the very end of the anime series.

What's the name of that special?

You bring up a good point. If Silver is Giovanni's son, how can he (Giovanni) be Ash's father? There's ways.

I mean look at Fullmetal Alchemist. Edward's dad was cheating on his mother. Maybe it's the same with Ash's father. All I know is if they ever reveal who his dad is, whether or not it's Giovanni, there'll be a ton of emotion in it.

Persona
February 17th, 2006, 05:28 PM
thats a good question, the first time i ever watched pokemon, i thought: hmmmmm......who is ash's father neway? o well....he'll probably come on in 1 of the episodes sum time.....and still nobody knows..... do u think they ever will show his father? -_-


~D.S~

Nodroz
February 17th, 2006, 08:42 PM
I'm a firm believer in the theory that Professor Oak is Ash's biological father, since it's been made pretty obvious throughout the series that there's something going on between Oak and Delia.

Spinor
February 17th, 2006, 10:21 PM
i do not agree that ash's father is oak(if it was ash would have an older sister with his son gary and gary never calls ash his uncle) or norman(there are rumors that ash's father is norman but thats 1000000000000000000000000....% not agreed, what stupid guy would come up with that?),some say its ho-oh(for GODS sake a pokemon?)others say he's adopted(dunno)but i feel that giovani is right ..i have seen cartoons copying other cartoons "may" was copied from ed,edd,n' eddy so later pokemon has copied starwars
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Wolf_Goddess
February 18th, 2006, 10:00 AM
I can just picture it now...

"Ash...I am your father."
"That's impossible!!!!"

Ash in a Jedi cloak, clutching the spot where his hand was cut off, and Giovanni in a Darth Vader get-up holding a red Lightsaber...-giggle-

It is likely, but remember, it's only a cartoon...>.>

Poke Mastr
February 18th, 2006, 05:47 PM
It is likely, but remember, it's only a cartoon...>.>

Exactly! I mean c'mon. Like more than half of the people on Earth dont know who their father is and dont even care at all who it could be. So why make a huge deal about someone else who is a cartoon character?

Persona
February 18th, 2006, 05:48 PM
Exactly! I mean c'mon. Like more than half of the people on Earth dont know who their father is and dont even care at all who it could be. So why make a huge deal about someone else who is a cartoon character?

meh....i don't make it a big deal either but btw i post neways -_-

~D.S~

Super_Lawliet
February 18th, 2006, 06:22 PM
Exactly! I mean c'mon. Like more than half of the people on Earth dont know who their father is and dont even care at all who it could be. So why make a huge deal about someone else who is a cartoon character?

I can unbderstand what you're saying. But I'm one of those people whom cries at night because they don't know who their father is... Words can severely hurt people...

Back on topic:

I have wondered whom Ash's dear old dayy is...heh, would've been wierd if it WERE Giovanni.

Zaikiro
February 18th, 2006, 06:32 PM
Nobody knows who is father is. He was only mentioned in the start of the series. Mabye he is not to be known. He just make the series more interesting. And it seems it has for about 8 years now. My opinion. Either way, I believe there will be a battle when they meet.

Persona
February 18th, 2006, 07:02 PM
hmmmm...very good i agree with Zaikiro especially about the fact that it makes the show more interesting.....hey, it's tru ya'know


~D.S~

moody_cow_
February 18th, 2006, 07:40 PM
I personally belive that Ash's father is someone who has not yet been met in the show, and we porbably won't meet him til like the end of the series, as someone previously mentioned. But I think he's some really good trainer who's too obsessed with traing and pokemon so that's why he left his family, to be the ultimate master, that's why he'd be proud of Ash because that's also Ash's goal! :)

This is just my opinion, I have often wondered who Ash's father was, but in the end I don't think it's important to to the show, not at the moment anyways!

Aegis
February 19th, 2006, 12:44 PM
On this other site that is for this fanfiction series it says that they think Ash's father either died or is Professor Oak, and they would ad a twist to the Gary-Ash rivalry. Or perhaps he is Givoanni, but I don't think they look a lot a like.

Chiru
February 20th, 2006, 01:46 PM
What's the name of that special?

You bring up a good point. If Silver is Giovanni's son, how can he (Giovanni) be Ash's father? There's ways.

I mean look at Fullmetal Alchemist. Edward's dad was cheating on his mother. Maybe it's the same with Ash's father. All I know is if they ever reveal who his dad is, whether or not it's Giovanni, there'll be a ton of emotion in it.

"Pokemon Special" is the name of the manga, if I'm not mistaken.

Now that I think about it, Delia (Ash's mother) has red-ish hair too, doesn't she? Maybe reddish brown. Just thought I'd bring that up.

Thomas
February 20th, 2006, 06:37 PM
Ash's father is Darth Vader! :O

Did anyone ever think that maybe his father died before he was born or when he was a little kid?

Duh...This makes the most sense because Delia says "Your father WOULD be proud of you. This basically means he is dead or not coming back.

Persona
February 20th, 2006, 06:55 PM
This makes the most sense because Delia says "Your father WOULD be proud of you. This basically means he is dead or not coming back.

true true....yes this is the right answer, he died or maybe not coming bak but they never talked about how he died or where he went, maybe they don't know,maybe it's still a mystery 2 this......i wouldn't make it such a big deal ppl -_- i mean seriously i think the ppl who created the pokemon show have forgoten all about the thing with ash's father, so don't expect nething 2 happen or an episode 2 1 day *** and talk about this or actually show his father........now does every 1 agree 2 this statement? i dunno about u but i do....if u don't, plz state ur reason.


~D.S~

KageSora
February 20th, 2006, 07:07 PM
I like to think it is Lance, but that's just 'cuz I think Lance and Ash are both t3h coolest. XD

Persona
February 20th, 2006, 07:26 PM
O.o how old is lance neways? um.......xd i think he's 2 young 2 be a father for ash kagesora

~D.S~

Gary, the Magic Fairy
February 21st, 2006, 06:11 PM
I think its Gary's Dad.

Who is Prof Oaks kid, Gary's dad or mom?

Fl0W:HHGURU
February 22nd, 2006, 03:30 PM
Prof Oak isnt Ash's Dad. If i can remember rightly...in the movie Pokemon 4EVA, Ash meets that dude who travelled in time with celbi...then prof oak say something about him towards the end and it shows him with the sketch book the dude had, so it isnt him.
Who is Prof Oaks kid, Gary's dad or mom?
I dont think Prof Oak has a kid...Gary is Prof Oaks nephew, i think.

Entei Fan
February 23rd, 2006, 06:45 AM
Prof Oak isnt Ash's Dad. If i can remember rightly...in the movie Pokemon 4EVA, Ash meets that dude who travelled in time with celbi...then prof oak say something about him towards the end and it shows him with the sketch book the dude had, so it isnt him.

I dont think Prof Oak has a kid...Gary is Prof Oaks nephew, i think.

1.In the Polish Version , Prof. Oak says that he is his grandson
2.I think his dad is a Bardock/Kakarot/Goten type , meaning he looks just like Ash , but an older version , like Shobu's dad , BTW most (?) of the cartoon boys looks exacly like their dads , so maybe that solve this theory , i think that he looks like him tough :)

Ashed Ketchup
February 25th, 2006, 12:20 AM
First of all, I found out that Prof. Oak is Gary's Grandpa. If there was any connection between Ash and Prof. Oak, it would be that Ash is his half-grandnephew/ or real grandnephew. Second, Giovanni's relation with Ash is very slim to none. Giovanni's son has red hair, and hasn't shown up in the series, only in the Metal version games. If Ash is Giovanni's son, Red-head would have to have a separate mother.


That's what I thnk about Ash's father being a real person from the series. Though I'm still curious, so I made up a semi-logical fiction story about him(I'm posting this to all forums who wonder about Ash's dad, and see how they think):

One of the days that Ash's dad went on his journey, Giovanni found him and asked him to do pkmn genetic research. He accepted, and was one of the few to find Mew's DNA. Once he helped find the hair, Giovanni betrayed him.

His body vessel was used as Mewtwo's structure (which would explain Mewtwo's human-ish body) and got his mind erased from the opperation.

That's what I think. I don't care if you disagree, it's just my crazy idea.

cryztalwing
February 25th, 2006, 07:46 AM
maby Ash is a ditto transform into a human! hahahah na his father is just probley some random PoKeMoN tranner that decided that going on PoKeMoN travles was more important than being a father at home....:laugh:

Gary, the Magic Fairy
March 4th, 2006, 06:28 PM
If there was any connection between Ash and Prof. Oak, it would be that Ash is his half-grandnephew/ or real grandnephew.
I dont understand that. What's a half-grandnephew?

fallen_natsumixx
March 4th, 2006, 06:38 PM
I really doubt that the writers of the show will show Ash's father seeing as they were too lazy to give all the main characters other then Ash a last name. =\

Gary, the Magic Fairy
March 4th, 2006, 07:05 PM
This makes the most sense because Delia says "Your father WOULD be proud of you. This basically means he is dead or not coming back.
Not nessicerilly(sp?). Ash's father obviosly doesnt talk to Delia, so he Would be proud if he knew what happened.

cryztalwing
March 5th, 2006, 09:16 AM
it's possible that Ash's father have all ready been shown in the show, maby in the back ground, or some body that Ash has meet. But they did not make it known. Than agian, the leader of Team Rocket could be Ash's father. It whould really make a great episode if they miad one about Ash's mom remember his father, well at less when his father was younger, and not really showing who he his. But hiting at who he his..

Drew
March 5th, 2006, 10:09 AM
I read somewhere that Domino is Giovanni's daughter.... so if some people think that Ash is his son, would Ash and Domino be sliblings?? .... I dont really believe that Ash's father is Giovanni... but it was just a thought...

I really doubt that the writers of the show will show Ash's father seeing as they were too lazy to give all the main characters other then Ash a last name. =\

Misty's last name is Williams... I've seen on some VA sites having to do with Rachel Lillis... as for Brock... I wonder what he last name IS.... x___x

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~
March 5th, 2006, 11:12 AM
Misty Williams that sounds like a lie. But I think Giovanni could be Ash's father. Maybe Delia threw him out as soon as she figured out what he been doing. But does anyone know Giovanni's last name, because Ketchum could of been Delia's name.

~Dark Venusaur

Karrit
March 7th, 2006, 11:43 AM
I think Giovanni as Ash's father is a little creepy. Might be interesting though.

chuggaaconroy
March 9th, 2006, 12:59 PM
Yeah, Pokemon Live said that Ash's Mom once dated Giovanni and had Ash at 18! (That's just Wrong...)