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Charaxes
March 4th, 2006, 07:30 AM
Here is where you can discuss the beginning of the Hoenn arc finale and the start of the Hoenn League championships in "Like a Meowth to Flame".

My review to come forthwith.

Aegis
March 4th, 2006, 08:21 AM
I liked Tyson in this one. His Metagross was really awesome at the end when it was saving the flame and all. Also how his Meowth was better then ol team rockets.

RSL
March 4th, 2006, 01:50 PM
I liked Tyson in this one. His Metagross was really awesome at the end when it was saving the flame and all. Also how his Meowth was better then ol team rockets.
If this is the preliminary/qualifying round of the PL, what's was Yuriko's dub name? (She had a Persian)

Hiroshi Sotomura
March 4th, 2006, 05:11 PM
If this is the preliminary/qualifying round of the PL, what's was Yuriko's dub name? (She had a Persian)
Nope, that's the next episode.

After having the name "Tetsuya-san" so long, don't expect me to use a name like "Tyson" on the community.

Excerpt from Dogasu's Backpack - Japanese Episode AG 125 (http://www.bulbagarden.net/~dogasu/comparisons/houen/ep126.html)
The dub does a few other things worth pointing out. Tetsuya is now called Tyson, keeping with the pattern of giving Ash's rivals names that end in -son (Harrison, Morrison, and now Tyson). The name Tyson was already taken by the Team Rocket member (http://www.bulbagarden.net/~dogasu/comparisons/jouto_2/ep238.html) who was after the Red Gyarados back in Johto, but I guess 4Kids forgot or don't care or something. In addition, Mr. Goodshow has apparently been working on his doctorate or something because he's now being called Professor Goodshow in the dub.
The name "Tyson" is hardly unique, and I'm not a fan of it for the same reason as Dogasu underlined.

Otherwise, this would be one of my favorite episodes (in Japanese).

Also note, according to Dogasu, 4Kids didn't heed to KidsWB's demand for the infamous Badge Case Edit this time.

Miss Reyna
March 4th, 2006, 10:10 PM
Finally we are in Ever Grade City!! Sites to see and battles to fight. We are into the Hoenn League Championships. The longest Pokemon Championships in the anime.

Well. They did change the ramen thing to noodles. No big deal. It still meant that they were going to get some food. Ramen, Chicken Noodle, Noodles. All the same. The fuel of Champions.

Forest or city. They just find a way to get lost. This just seems to amaze me becasue they usally never get lost in a city.

Murkrow attack. You think this be easy picking after all the battles Pikachu had done. One Tunderbolt to knock them out. Instade it takes a Fury Swipes from Meow in Boots and Tyson. You can tell this guy is a very good trainer right?

The Torch!! Tyson being a torch runner. We see Mr. Goodshow. My mistake. Professor Goodshow. I like the idea of tieing in things from the seasons before. He remember Brook and Ash from Jhoto and Kanto. They even metion that Brock and Ash were torch runners themselves. I like when they tie the show with old things expectly from Kanto.

This is a new one for Team Rocket. They went so far as in disguising themselves as Joy and Jenny for stealing the Moltres's flame. I mean Jessie actually sounded like a Jenny.

This is when it get good. The battle. This time they didn't went after Pikachu but Pikachu was kinda defeated by them. Smart play.

Meowth in Boots. Meowth's Rival. Just like himself but good. Very good. It was as shame that they didn't get more talk time.

Does it matter that Tyson has the same name as some guy from Team Rocket back in Jhoto? Not like people would remember that. I didn't and I saw that episode too. Still it a small thing don't you think? No point on making a fuss over a small thing.

When did Mr. Goodshow became a Professor? He doesn't even look like one. Where the labcoat and stuff? Then how did Max knew that he was a professor? I thought that Mr/Professor Goodshow was master of ceromony for the Championships? Not some studier of pokemon.

Poor Glaile. Just background now. No real part to play in the show anymore. It was a shame. He grew on me as snorunt.

9/10- Great episode. We saw Ash's most powerful rival here. I like to see what else happens. A few mistakes and stuff but since this is the opening of the Championships then it fine. Almost as good as the Ralt's one as of Team Rocket.

We are up for some great battles and excellent pokemon. We finally into the Hoenn League Championships. In a month we be back in good old Kanto.

Hiroshi Sotomura
March 5th, 2006, 04:09 AM
Shame the producers kinda assume you've seen the Kanto league and don't really simplify the Hoenn League plot (you'd be confused by the league system if you started watching AG only). This league is actually pretty short.

And I'm not upset about Tyson also being the name of a Team Rocket member since there's a lot of naming like this around the world anyway, but the dub repetitively uses "-son" for Ash's rivals, where in the Japanese version no such allusions in names exists. They could be a lot more creative with the naming.

... But it's a name, nothing much a deal now. I just need a voice clip of Tyson's voice to decide whether the dub will appeal to me or not.

Crystal Clair
March 5th, 2006, 08:38 AM
OMG! I didn't see the episode yet but I got my dub name SOOOO close. I guessed it to be Tyler and it was Tyson. holy crap! I got the prefix right! O_O
8D awesome!

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~
March 5th, 2006, 11:15 AM
I loved that Mewoth so much better than the trash talking one. Its well trained maybe if it wasnt so stubborn then it could evolve into a Persian. Ash is going to have a hard time beating that Mewoth in the hoenn League.

~Dark Venusaur

Forci Stikane
March 7th, 2006, 03:44 PM
...I enjoyed how Ash commented on Oak having CHARIZARD there. NO. He left CHarizard in the Charicific Valley. I can't believe that 4Kids made such a dumb mistake (well, yes I can, but whatever). I'm also surprised no one else noticed that...

Hiroshi Sotomura
March 8th, 2006, 01:41 AM
I loved that Mewoth so much better than the trash talking one. Its well trained maybe if it wasnt so stubborn then it could evolve into a Persian. Ash is going to have a hard time beating that Mewoth in the hoenn League.

~Dark Venusaur
Nope, it's probably not going to evolve at all during the league as it really doesn't intend to. But yes, Tetsuya's Nyasu and Satoshi's Pikachu will have quite some trouble matching against each other.

DoubleWide
March 13th, 2006, 10:07 AM
I didn't think Meowths had the ability to do electrical attacks. But then again, they've had a Zigzagoon and a Starme use electric attacks before.