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The Songbird
March 20th, 2006, 07:39 PM
I was wondering what others think about this. I've seen countless pics of Relicanth, but I recently noticed its eyes are always shut. XD

My guess is that it's because of the real-life fish it was based on, the coelacanth. There's a special structure in its eyes that allows for improved night vision, much like that of cats and dogs. But because it lives deep down in the sea, it's extremely sensitive to light, and therefore can't be caught during the day.

Is this why Relicanth hasn't been seen with open eyes? What do you think?

Orca
March 20th, 2006, 10:43 PM
Haha! That is a good question. Well, I supose' the question "Does Takeshi ever open his eyes?" could be asked.
Actually, there are a number of other pokemon with those seemingly 'un-openable' eyes.

I must say though, your theory sounds quite scientific! Kudos to your knowledge about the coelacanth!

kohei
March 21st, 2006, 03:06 AM
My theory is that its eyes are always open.

However it only looks open to a person with a pure heart (meaning; none of us).

SupaCuz
March 21st, 2006, 04:47 PM
I say it's like Brock. He doesn't open his eyes.

The Songbird
March 21st, 2006, 07:42 PM
I've noticed that with other Pokemon, as well as Brock. (Makuhita, Cyndaquil, Swinub, Gulpin, etc.) I found Relicanth to be the most interesting of them, since it's based on the real-life coelacanth. And it's one of my faves. XD

I also think it opens its eyes under certain conditions due to the simple fact that it has eyelids. XD

Egyptian Sphinx
March 21st, 2006, 08:23 PM
Relicanth is also my fave but it has never opened it's eyes

Supreme Edgeboy Max
March 22nd, 2006, 02:27 AM
OMG! IT HAS EYES! O O;

Nah I'm kidding. I think its just squinting or something, like Brock. Neither of them open their eyes.

Psycho
March 22nd, 2006, 10:39 AM
I believe that it's eyes are indeed open, its just the way that they are designed. Their eyes aren't close, the slit that encases their eyes is just incredibly thin.

Also, Brock's eyes are open, just not wide.

Psycho

The Songbird
March 22nd, 2006, 07:16 PM
I believe that it's eyes are indeed open, its just the way that they are designed. Their eyes aren't close, the slit that encases their eyes is just incredibly thin.

Also, Brock's eyes are open, just not wide.

Psycho

This could be true. It does fit fairly well to my original theory of the coelacanth's sensitive eyes, which explains why it's always seen squinting. But anything can be true I suppose. XD

I actually guessed that about Brock, since he can see his surroundings rather well. (and all the pretty ladies he loves so much... XD)

Chiru
March 23rd, 2006, 03:10 PM
Cyndaquil never opens its eyes either. o_o And I don't think I've ever seen Torkoal or Dunsparce with open eyes. It's probably just another Pokemon that always looks like it has its eyes shut.

redpikachu2
March 23rd, 2006, 04:30 PM
yea now if u think of it most of the pokemon have there eyes close..0.o..

Supreme Edgeboy Max
March 24th, 2006, 12:40 AM
yea now if u think of it most of the pokemon have there eyes close..0.o..
Wrong. :3 Most Pokemon's eyes are open .. its just a select few that have their eyes closed.

Wouldn't keeping open eyes un-wide be squinting?

Toothache
March 24th, 2006, 01:33 AM
Abra usually has it's eyes closed, but they sleep for 16 hours a day, so that makes sense.

Psycho
March 24th, 2006, 02:49 PM
Wouldn't keeping open eyes un-wide be squinting?
It depends, squinting has another meaning when speaking of vision. Squint could refer to strabismus (squint-eyed), a visual defect; though, brock doesn't have it. Squint, too, means to look with eyes partly closed; though Brock doesn't do that either.

Brock's eyes are just designed that way. They are open, just narrow - Brock has narrow eyes. Brock isn't squinting, since his eyes are constantly like that (aside from slumber) and if he were squinting, then he'd be squinting constantly, which take plethora of muscle activity and stamina to constantly uphold.

Psycho

Supreme Edgeboy Max
March 24th, 2006, 10:46 PM
It depends, squinting has another meaning when speaking of vision. Squint could refer to strabismus (squint-eyed), a visual defect; though, brock doesn't have it. Squint, too, means to look with eyes partly closed; though Brock doesn't do that either.

Brock's eyes are just designed that way. They are open, just narrow - Brock has narrow eyes. Brock isn't squinting, since his eyes are constantly like that (aside from slumber) and if he were squinting, then he'd be squinting constantly, which take plethora of muscle activity and stamina to constantly uphold.

Psycho
But its not impossible now, is it? :3 In Detective School Kyu, Kenta (no, this is not Gold, nor Pokemon's Kenta) squints his eyes like that to get a Zoom vision of some sort. o O;;
But anyway, relating to the actual question - Relicanth really doesn't open its eyes. It has them, but it won't open them. And as for the darkness in the sea thing, a lot of creatures of the deep open their eyes WIDE to view their surroundings. Light doesn't penetrate that far into the ocean.

~Rene~
March 25th, 2006, 02:33 AM
No. I don't think it opened its eyes. Just like Brock, Swinub, Makuhita, Cyndaquil, Snorlax and Skitty.

Drifblim
March 25th, 2006, 03:44 AM
Or perhaps a brown eyelid is not accounted for and it sees like the alligator. Even so, it's got to see, so it has narrow eyes — look at Skitty.

Psycho
March 26th, 2006, 11:19 AM
But its not impossible now, is it? :3 In Detective School Kyu, Kenta (no, this is not Gold, nor Pokemon's Kenta) squints his eyes like that to get a Zoom vision of some sort. o O;;
Yes, it is impossible. Notice that Brock's dad, and all of his brothers and sisters have the same eyes; its a family trait - probably genetic.

By the way guys, fish don't have eyelids (except for sharks). >_>;

Edit: Brock has the stereotypical Asian eyes. They are drawn in slits, just as Snorlax and Munchlax.

Psycho

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~
March 26th, 2006, 12:32 PM
I've never seen it open its eyes. Not even in the anime.

:t003:Dark Venusaur

The Songbird
March 26th, 2006, 03:47 PM
By the way guys, fish don't have eyelids (except for sharks). >_>;

Psycho

True, but we must remember that Pokemon aren't exactly like real-life animals. Examples are Goldeen and Tentacool (it blinks in its Crystal Version animation)

I say Relicanth is like these 2 and has eyelids. But hey, that's just me. XD

Psycho
March 26th, 2006, 04:03 PM
True, but we must remember that Pokemon aren't exactly like real-life animals. Examples are Goldeen and Tentacool (it blinks in its Crystal Version animation)
Actually they are, and I could go in depth on their bases, but we have another thread with that very purpose. Most of the fish-based Pokemon are effected by that one factor in contrast to real life fish. Goldeen, as we can see does have eyelids (thus an exception), even when it doesn't blink; whereas Seaking has the same expression. Tentacool isn't even a fish. >_>

I say that Relicanth's eyes are drawn in slits - a common eye design within animation that is used to add variety.

Psycho

Persona
March 26th, 2006, 04:09 PM
good question.... i dunno O.o maybe kohei is correct, but i never heard of that statement.though it does make sense.

Supreme Edgeboy Max
March 27th, 2006, 08:23 AM
|shrugs| This'll be going on for a while, with all the ideas we all have.

And slit'eyes are now a stereotypical thing now are they? Most anime characters have BIG eyes, is this irony, or Japanese wannabe'ness for larger eyes? o o;

Natsuki
March 27th, 2006, 09:58 AM
You know, for the longest time I thought that little red dot was its eye. o__O Total blonde moment there. XD

Aaanyway, it could be based on the real-life animal it represents - one would think that to be the most logical answer. It could also just be the way the artist drew the character, who really knows. XD

~Kelsey

Psycho
March 27th, 2006, 01:26 PM
And slit'eyes are now a stereotypical thing now are they? Most anime characters have BIG eyes, is this irony, or Japanese wannabe'ness for larger eyes? o o;
Yes, Slit eyes have been a stereotypical form of Asian eyes for quite some time. I'm certain that you all know by now that anime characters have big eyes due to the Japanese stereotype of Westerners. If you don't, allow me to explain: One of the most common styles within anime is known as the "Large eyes" which is depicted in many anime characters. This is due to due to the influence of Osamu Tezuka, who was inspired by the exaggerated features of Western Disney cartoon characters such as Mickey Mouse and Bambi. He felt that giving his characters large eyes would help to better portray their emotions. His style caught on and became quite popular.

There are various other types of eyes, such as: The Ecentric Eye, The Middle-of-the-Road Eye, The Comic Eye, Slit Eyes, ect. Eyes can be drawn based off of gender, character, or overall appearance (large eyes just aren't suitable for some characters). Don't always be so quick to commit a argumentum ad populum/argumentum ad numerum, or in other words, assume.

Edit: It's common for artists to be creative with their characters, to create mixture rather than a ennui.

Aaanyway, it could be based on the real-life animal it represents - one would think that to be the most logical answer. It could also just be the way the artist drew the character, who really knows. XD
I like both of your answers; presumably the most punctilious from my perspective. =D

Psycho

Supreme Edgeboy Max
March 27th, 2006, 09:47 PM
So wouldn't this imply that the Relicanth might just have its eyes like that, not because the artist felt like it, but the artist drew them like so 'cause there's some other reason, that Relicanth is supposed to look that way?

Jude Mathis
March 28th, 2006, 06:57 AM
I wonder the same thing about Brock.... ^^;
I think Relicath's eyes are open.... but...thats just me. I don't really know how that works, since they look closed...but...still....

Psycho
March 28th, 2006, 01:30 PM
So wouldn't this imply that the Relicanth might just have its eyes like that, not because the artist felt like it, but the artist drew them like so 'cause there's some other reason, that Relicanth is supposed to look that way?
Affirmative, there are a plethora of factors that could affect how something appears. However, there are also a plethora of anime techniques, and various ways for designing specific body components. Things aren't always as they appear.

Psycho

The Songbird
March 28th, 2006, 02:09 PM
Wow, I didn't even think of several of these possibilities! XD Shows how simple-minded I can be at times... *shrugs* I wonder what it would look like with its eyes fully opened...

Supreme Edgeboy Max
March 28th, 2006, 11:00 PM
Wow, I didn't even think of several of these possibilities! XD Shows how simple-minded I can be at times... *shrugs* I wonder what it would look like with its eyes fully opened...
I think it'd probably have small eyes, so it matches the small slitlike eyes it has now.