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Johnny Boy~
April 12th, 2006, 06:36 PM
What Pokemon Do you think is the worst ever and why.
Answer Dignlegently

M£A†¥
April 12th, 2006, 06:46 PM
Pikachu: Because its on every epsiode of pokemon.

Johnny Boy~
April 12th, 2006, 06:50 PM
You might be right, but i have to go with tropius. It was only in one, unimportant, unwatched, and unpopular show. It has a horible move set...

Lt. Surge's Raichu
April 13th, 2006, 04:13 AM
Hmm, worst pokemon ever? I have 2, Magikarp, because it sucks, and caterpie, it's attack is hillarious

Blazichu
April 13th, 2006, 04:32 AM
Any Pokemon that can learn splash. eg. Magikarp
That move sucks.

Baki Koji
April 13th, 2006, 05:40 AM
Pikachu. It's overused and overrated. Not to mention it's sadistic, evil, and a friggin bully (just like Satoshi :D).

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~
April 13th, 2006, 05:47 AM
All of those evo's. They seem very useless. I cant say Magikarp because it evolves into a Gyarados.

:t003:Dark Venusaur

pikeevee
April 13th, 2006, 08:12 AM
febass. Its just a majikarp with duller skin and a diferent evolve. I like milotic though.

Lt. Surge's Raichu
April 13th, 2006, 08:23 AM
All of those evo's. They seem very useless. I cant say Magikarp because it evolves into a Gyarados.

:t003:Dark Venusaur

Yeh, but you can catch Gyarados, without training it from Magikarp though, so no wrong in saying that...

JX Valentine
April 13th, 2006, 09:08 AM
Magikarp was purposely made to be the worst Pokemon ever.

On the other hand, I get the feeling that Luvdisc was too. I'm sorry, but look at it. It doesn't evolve, yet it has the sort of stats you'd expect from one that does... several times. Its offensive stats are pathetic, defensive stats only a bit better, and HP not even that impressive. The only good thing about it is the fact that it's got Swift Swim coupled with decent (albeit sub-par, in my opinion) Speed, but unfortunately, there's just not that much you can do with it.

That and the way it looks, its 'dex entries, and its name really just make me want to do nothing more with it than laugh at it if someone sends it into battle. Either that or make dirty jokes. But maybe that one's just me.

Light_Azumarill
April 13th, 2006, 11:11 AM
Hmm... that's a hard one. I'd have to agree with Luvdisc. It seems pretty pointless. ^^;; Cute, but pointless.

I think that maybe a few of the baby pokemon are bad. I mean, I get that you can recieve special attacks via baby pokemon, but they're just... meh. I dunno, I just don't like 'em.

Garouga! Bare Your Fangs!
April 13th, 2006, 12:07 PM
Some of the baby Pokemon are pathetic. They know horrible moves and evolve on friendship. That can take anywhere from an hour to a year.

SBaby
April 13th, 2006, 12:49 PM
I'd have to say, weaker versions of already weak Pokemon. Those are the ones we really don't need.

Johnny Boy~
April 13th, 2006, 01:17 PM
Weaker versions of weak pokemon. Why does that make me say pichu?

M£A†¥
April 13th, 2006, 01:51 PM
Weaker versions of weak pokemon. Why does that make me say pichu?
Chancey: (even know his attack is so low, as well its defense, its weak, but high HP, I still don't seem to care) Auzmarril: (It a bad water-type pokemon in my opion) Tropius: (its one of my favoritest pokemon ever, but its moveset is horrible and there is no cure for good natures for it) Wigglytuff & Clefable: (two weak pokemon with only 1 high status {HP}) Tarous: (just a cool looking pokemon with three tails which is okay, but its just a lame pokemon with lame moves)

Johnny Boy~
April 13th, 2006, 02:43 PM
Wow M£A†¥, you don't like a lot of pokemon....
I think that magikarp is so weak for the obvious reason, he evolves into garados, one of the more powerful bird/water pokemon. In the fourth generaton, there will more than likly be another weak pokemon that evoles into a stronger one

Original: Magikarp
2nd Generation: Phanpy
3rd Generation: Feebas
4th Generation: ???

M£A†¥
April 13th, 2006, 03:04 PM
Wow M£A†¥, you don't like a lot of pokemon....
I think that magikarp is so weak for the obvious reason, he evolves into garados, one of the more powerful bird/water pokemon. In the fourth generaton, there will more than likly be another weak pokemon that evoles into a stronger one

Original: Magikarp
2nd Generation: Phanpy
3rd Generation: Feebas
4th Generation: ???
I guess your right about I don't like a lot of pokemon, I realy don't like a lot of pokemon, but I never hated any pokemon, maybe Lantern

Worst Pokemon Ever! (in my opion)

1st Generation: Wigglytuff, Chancey, Clefable, Tarous, Pikachu, Caterpie, Weedle, and Magikarp.
2nd Generation: Lantern, Azumarrial and Quilfish.
3rd Generation: Feebas, Pluse and Minus.
4th Generation: Sudowoodo's pre-evolve form.

Rift
April 13th, 2006, 03:17 PM
Have you all forgotten about the most lovable forgettable and utterly crappiest pokemon yet (and looks like cookie dough and a slug had a child)

DUNSPARCE WHY ARE YOU STILL ALIVE, MAYBE YOU'LL EVOLVE IN THE 4TH GENERATION BUT I HIGHLY DOUBT IT!!!

MOON~DANCER
April 13th, 2006, 03:22 PM
rattata sucks too...i hate it

Johnny Boy~
April 13th, 2006, 03:31 PM
You know one pokmeon that shouldn't have been made?

I bet you forgot about it, didn't you.

It's name is pidgey!!! They should've just started the evolutionary chain at pidgeotto, then pidgeot, then pidgeondo.

RSL
April 13th, 2006, 03:37 PM
Slaking.
It's attack is higher than Rhydon's and Kingler's and the chain should have stopped at Vigoroth.

Johnny Boy~
April 13th, 2006, 03:42 PM
Slaking.
It's attack is higher than Rhydon's and Kingler's and the chain should have stopped at Vigoroth. I think that they should make vigorith

Vigorith, ey, sounds good.

Grey-Eyed Wolf
April 22nd, 2006, 10:53 AM
That would have to be Magikarp, no questions asked. (hence the name Magikarp killer^)

IceX
April 22nd, 2006, 11:01 AM
I would have to say...Wobbufet( Is that how you spell it?)

Grey-Eyed Wolf
April 22nd, 2006, 11:15 AM
Wobbufet isn't that bad (ignoring its design) if you can easily predict your opponents next attack, you can win easily if used right. Still, it's not my type of pokemon either besides the fact that it's one of the most radiculas looking pokemon around

Ash&pikachuarethebest
April 22nd, 2006, 11:50 AM
I think bonsly is going to be one of the worst pokemon from the 4 generation and that bird one with the musical note on its head. the only good thing about it is that it is the only bird pokemon to be pure flying type and not flying and normal.

j-manmunchlax
April 22nd, 2006, 12:06 PM
a weak pokemon is definitely feebas. u go through loads to catch it, then u have to get it
to a decent level and make it beatiful to make milotic, which is cool but not really worth it. sorry all u milotic lovers.

j-manmunchlax
April 22nd, 2006, 12:11 PM
from johto i think chinchou. its nice to have a weird water/electric type, but it has no decent moves and lantern is no better.

Grey-Eyed Wolf
April 22nd, 2006, 01:32 PM
a weak pokemon is definitely feebas. u go through loads to catch it, then u have to get it
to a decent level and make it beatiful to make milotic, which is cool but not really worth it. sorry all u milotic lovers.

Your fool its well worth the wait! And besides, it doesnt take long to evolve at all. Just blend a couple of Pamtre and use the indigo pokeblocks that are made from them and its ready to evolve (you only need one LV up by the way NOT a 'decent level')

Skitty101
April 22nd, 2006, 02:32 PM
I have to say, Jynx is the worst, I repeat WORSE pokemon!!
Well to me.

Gary, the Magic Fairy
April 22nd, 2006, 08:01 PM
I'd have to say magikarp, because they suck. XD
I dont like feebas either, which looks like a dying migikarp, they're useless at first, you waste all your pokeblocks on it, it can learn a few other useless moves, and its almost just as ugly as before.

Natsuki
April 22nd, 2006, 08:57 PM
j-manmunchlax, please do not double post. It is against the rules.

I think the worst Pokemon is Mareep. <<; I don't really like taking the time to train it, it's such a pain for me. x___x It's pretty weak, even though it's cute, I just hate training it. XD

~Kelsey

Kaeru_ike
April 22nd, 2006, 09:55 PM
I think Jynx sucks. Everything about it is just so... I dunno...

enyce
April 22nd, 2006, 09:57 PM
rattata is the worst pokemon. Its only good attack is hyper fang. Otherwise it just sucks, I laugh at anyone who has an rattata on their team. And I die laughing. Raticate is no better....

At least magikarp evolves into gyrados

Alistair
April 23rd, 2006, 06:34 PM
I think that Ledyba has got to be the worst. It is so weak.

Tbone2356
April 23rd, 2006, 06:59 PM
j-manmunchlax, please do not double post. It is against the rules.

I think the worst Pokemon is Mareep. <<; I don't really like taking the time to train it, it's such a pain for me. x___x It's pretty weak, even though it's cute, I just hate training it. XD

~Kelsey

Id Have To Disagree With You. Mareep Is Fairly Easy To Train And When You Have A Whole Army Of Mareep And Mareep Evo's, You Will Really Start To Like Them.
(Im Not Kidding I Must Have Like 30 Mareeps/Mareep's Evos. I Bred Them With Different Kinds Of Pokemon So Each One Will Have A Different Type Move, Im Using My Best 6 For The Battle Frointier.)

Anyway, I Like All Pokemon But If I Had To Choose One From Each Region Here It Is:

Worst Kanto Pokemon: Abra, I Mean Its Evos Are Great But All Abra Can Use Is Teleport....

Worst Johto Pokemon: Shukle, In Pokemon XD It Sux Badly, Its Attacks Are Really Weak And Pointless.

Worst Hoenn Pokemon: Pretty Much All Hoenn Pokemon Because They Look Like A 5 Year Old Drew Them And Then Threw Up On It, But If I Had To Choose One Id Say Luvdisc, Its Design Is So Stupid And Simple And They Didnt Even Make Up For It With An Evo!

Xtacy
April 23rd, 2006, 07:21 PM
Luvdisc is the undispited worst Pokemon ever. I mean, it fits in all categories. It has one of the worst names ever created. It has one of the most horrible character designs. It's stats SUCK, as does it's move compatibility. And finally, it has a boring, overused type of which nothing stands out (Water). And the final nail - these are all FINAL. With Magikarp, you know it WILL evolve into the awesome Gyarados. With the feeble Abra, you KNOW it will turn into Alakazam. Even caterpie and Weedle will turn into semi-decent Pokemon. Luvdisc only exists to be known as the worst Pokemon ever.

rattata is the worst pokemon. Its only good attack is hyper fang. Otherwise it just sucks, I laugh at anyone who has an rattata on their team. And I die laughing. Raticate is no better....

Please do not underestimate Super Fang.

joyce : the fluffy pirate~
April 25th, 2006, 09:56 AM
Worst pokemon eh..?
I still think it's Magikarp...
Just a weak pathetic ugly pokemon..It learns tackle on level 15...And it takes ages to get it that far.

The only good thing at it is that it evolves into a Gyarados, but only at level 20....
I even prefer to catch a Gyarados in the wild then train a Magikarp....

Ichigo Flash
April 25th, 2006, 10:01 AM
Even tho magikarp sucks I still always get one and evolve it to Gyarados so I would say hes ok.

Luvdisc though......my sweet lord.....majorly sucks.

~Alakazam~
April 25th, 2006, 10:54 AM
Abra only learns teleport naturally. You know it will evolve, and plus, it can learn many TM moves.

GreatLiver
April 25th, 2006, 11:12 AM
Game wise I'd say Dunsparce just because it's plain, boring and bad. The only people who like it were those kids in the one episode that were ubsessed about them. I do agree that Pikachu is over used too much even though there are much better pokemon. WHo cares is Satoshi has one, hes got other pokemon too. It somewhat gives pokemon a bad name making it look like a cute little kids game/show/tcg/manga/whatever

Mr_Smilie:)
April 25th, 2006, 11:37 AM
Id Have To Disagree With You. Mareep Is Fairly Easy To Train And When You Have A Whole Army Of Mareep And Mareep Evo's, You Will Really Start To Like Them.
(Im Not Kidding I Must Have Like 30 Mareeps/Mareep's Evos. I Bred Them With Different Kinds Of Pokemon So Each One Will Have A Different Type Move, Im Using My Best 6 For The Battle Frointier.)

Anyway, I Like All Pokemon But If I Had To Choose One From Each Region Here It Is:

Worst Kanto Pokemon: Abra, I Mean Its Evos Are Great But All Abra Can Use Is Teleport....

Worst Johto Pokemon: Shukle, In Pokemon XD It Sux Badly, Its Attacks Are Really Weak And Pointless.

Worst Hoenn Pokemon: Pretty Much All Hoenn Pokemon Because They Look Like A 5 Year Old Drew Them And Then Threw Up On It, But If I Had To Choose One Id Say Luvdisc, Its Design Is So Stupid And Simple And They Didnt Even Make Up For It With An Evo!

ill also have to agree with Tbone they are really easy to train up evolve and use with
they r like stronger than most starter pokemon and there kinda cute when they go maa-rrr-eep

Jorah
April 25th, 2006, 12:29 PM
Definatly Magikarp, the only moves it can learn are splash and flail. Yeah, that's going to defeat everything. And Woboffet, I think the only attack it can use is counter? Pikachu is kind of annoying, I bet everyone who watched the programme first and bought the game later thought that it could beat everything, which obviously it can't.

Xtacy
April 25th, 2006, 12:44 PM
Worst Johto Pokemon: Shukle, In Pokemon XD It Sux Badly, Its Attacks Are Really Weak And Pointless.

And it also has the highest defense out of any Pokemon in the game with whopping 550+ defenses in both defense AND special defense. Of course he's gong to suck if you actually try outright attack moves with him when he has a 119 attack/sp.atk stat. Sheesh.........

The Great Saiyaman
April 25th, 2006, 01:06 PM
Magikarp isn't that bad. I actually beat a gym leader with it. Now if you want know a crappy pokemon its Feebas. It just a wannabe Magikarp.

Ichigo Flash
April 25th, 2006, 02:23 PM
I agree Feebas totaly blows....I only put up with them for Milotic.

~\"Metal Sonic"/~
April 25th, 2006, 02:36 PM
... I really don't see why everybody hates R/S pokemon. I see nothing wrong with them. I mean, come ON! Saying Stantler is better than Swapert is just plain insane.

Now, worst pokemon, eh?
Well...
Hm....
Tentacool and Zubat.
Reason:
LEAVE ME ALONE!
Not to mention their stats are crap, but that's just because of them being basic pokemon.

Oh, and I dissaprove of all 4th gen. pokemon bashing. FOR THE LOVE OF MOLDY CHEESE ON THE TOP SHELF OF AN OLD REFRIDGERATOR, PEOPLE! You can't honestly say they are truely the worst pokemon ever if barley any info on them has been reliesed...

Shining Salamence
April 25th, 2006, 02:58 PM
in terms of the actuall pokemon, not regarding stats, I'd have to say treecko and goldeen, since Treecko has a stupid name, talks in that retarded falsetto, and is so overused on that show. It's almost like a second pikachu.

Goldeen because it's lame, weak-looking (imagine a male goldeen, lol) and it fainted my Mankey, my only good pkmn, on my old yellow save with its frickin peck attack...seaking too because it was the only shiny i ever saw...and it was in trainer tower

I also think that any pokemon that appear frequently in places where you're trying to get a rare pokemonare also a pain, especially Zubat and Tentacool. (although great for EV training)

In terms of stats, I'd have to say magikarp since it can learn just two attacks and it hinders Gyarados's chance to learn egg moves (since it can't learn any on its own). However, its short hatch time for an egg makes it great for experiments such getting shinys.

Xtacy
April 25th, 2006, 03:09 PM
... I really don't see why everybody hates R/S pokemon.

I don't hate them cause they're weak, I hate them because they're either boring or uninspired/uncreative or a plain rehash of earlier Pokemon. And the names mostly suck.

Neosplash
April 26th, 2006, 12:49 PM
Where do you get those cool trainer's cards.
So many people have them and I want one too!
Tell me to get them or I'll have Cantie come after you.

silentkiller349
April 26th, 2006, 01:25 PM
Magikarp is hands down the worst pokemon, but once it evloves it turns from 0 to hero

Ati
April 26th, 2006, 11:59 PM
Magikarp and Rattata for me..

enyce
April 27th, 2006, 12:39 AM
Definatly Magikarp, the only moves it can learn are splash and flail. Yeah, that's going to defeat everything. And Woboffet, I think the only attack it can use is counter? Pikachu is kind of annoying, I bet everyone who watched the programme first and bought the game later thought that it could beat everything, which obviously it can't.

Pikachu is kind of overrated, but it evolves into Raichu. Wich is hands down one of the best electric pokemon (if you train pkachu before using your thunderstone). Electabuzz, Zapdos, Ampharos, Raichu. Are the only decent eletric pokemon.

Pikachu is the only decent un-evolved (with stages) eletric pokemon. Plus I think it and electabuzz are the only two electric typesthat learn thunderbolt naturally. Although Pikachu learns it much earlier. Wich is a great thing.

Ice demon
April 27th, 2006, 04:11 PM
Pikachu is kind of overrated, but it evolves into Raichu. Wich is hands down one of the best electric pokemon (if you train pkachu before using your thunderstone). Electabuzz, Zapdos, Ampharos, Raichu. Are the only decent eletric pokemon.

Pikachu is the only decent un-evolved (with stages) eletric pokemon. Plus I think it and electabuzz are the only two electric typesthat learn thunderbolt naturally. Although Pikachu learns it much earlier. Wich is a great thing.


You forgot raikou and magneton as useful electrics [very very useful electrics]

Worst pokemon ever would have to be rattata

enyce
April 29th, 2006, 04:24 AM
You forgot raikou and magneton as useful electrics [very very useful electrics]

Worst pokemon ever would have to be rattata

Raikou is a legendary, I dont count them. Just as I didnt count Zapdos. Any ele. type that doesnt learn thunder or thunderbolt naturaully. Is not really a decent type. Although magnemite/magneton is the only ele. type to learn zap cannon naturally. But zap cannon is more inaccurate than thunder. But Zap Cannon has a 10/10 chance of paralyzing, while thunder only has a 1/3. But ill take more accuracy and more power points. Over less power points an less accuracy. But a perfect chance of paralysis.

Although I could be wrong about the zap cannon thing. Because im basing this off GSC, I have never played R/S/E, I have played Leaf and Fire but I only encountered first gen pokemon.

Light_Azumarill
April 29th, 2006, 04:38 AM
2nd Generation: Lantern, Azumarrial

I know this was said a while back but... I can't take it!!

Lanturn is totally NOT the worst pokemon. And neither is Azumarill. Both of which were spelled wrong in the original post. -.- I mean come on... that's saying that Stantler is a better pokemon than those two... or that Sentret is... or Pichu and Smoochum. Gimme a break.

Xtacy
April 29th, 2006, 05:07 AM
that's saying that Stantler is a better pokemon than those two.

There's nothing wrong with Stantler. It's certainly better then Azumarill.

enyce
April 29th, 2006, 05:29 AM
There's nothing wrong with Stantler. It's certainly better then Azumarill.

Almost every normal pokemon is horrible. I mean that too, besides Pidgey/Pidgeotto/Pidgeot and Clefairy/Clefable. Every normal type can go to hell. Useless pokemon I say. Besides the appeal that they have, they really suck. Clefairy can learn metronome, I love that attack. Pidgeotto/Pidgeot have been faves of mine ever since I seen the pokemon show and how useful they are.

please do not underesitmate super fang

ok...so super fang halves the enemies HP, big freakin deal. Rattata and Raticate are the only ones who learn it. So im not going to level them up. Just so I can have those moves. But, like I said normal types are very bad

chimaera
April 29th, 2006, 01:46 PM
pikachu. their overated. D:

pkmnSettler
April 29th, 2006, 03:28 PM
haha, i absolutly hate pigdy, or however u spell it, he's everywhere, & he or her sucks

enyce
April 29th, 2006, 08:38 PM
haha, i absolutly hate pigdy, or however u spell it, he's everywhere, & he or her sucks

piggey evolves into pidgeotto and pidgeot. SO nothing is wrong wit pidgey and it evolves quite fast.

Besides clefairy and clefable, the rest of you normal types can go to hell

Xtacy
April 30th, 2006, 08:48 AM
Almost every normal pokemon is horrible.

So you think people use Snorlax, Ursaring, Kanghaskan, Dodrio, and are just morons who don't know what they're doing? And of all the Normal types to choose.......Clefable? Stantler is definitely better then Azumarill. Azumarill is basically.....another forgettable water Pokemon amongst tons and tons of better ones, with awful move compatibility and even more awful stats.

Clefairy can learn metronome, I love that attack.

....Metronome is a horrible attack.....

ok...so super fang halves the enemies HP, big freakin deal. Rattata and Raticate are the only ones who learn it.

...and Lugia is the only one who uses Aeroblast. And Parasect was the only one who learned Spore. These are all worthless attacks?

But, like I said normal types are very bad

Only if you can't use them properly.

enyce
April 30th, 2006, 09:06 AM
So you think people use Snorlax, Ursaring, Kanghaskan, Dodrio, and are just morons who don't know what they're doing? And of all the Normal types to choose.......Clefable? Stantler is definitely better then Azumarill. Azumarill is basically.....another forgettable water Pokemon amongst tons and tons of better ones, with awful move compatibility and even more awful stats.



....Metronome is a horrible attack.....



...and Lugia is the only one who uses Aeroblast. And Parasect was the only one who learned Spore. These are all worthless attacks?



Only if you can't use them properly.

I thought snorlax was something else, but hes good.

Rattata is not worth it for hyper fang, Lugia is a good pokemon, aeroblast is worth it. Parasect, i never ever ever ever have a pokemon with quad weaknesses on me. With the exception for Charizard and Dragonite. Parasects death is guranteeed with a fire move, charizard would be killed with a rock move. Dragonite is dead with some ice. Parasect is a useless pokemon with a good attack thats all. Same goes for rattata.

But dodrio is part flying, I really meant the pure normal types. I hate kanghaskan, she is overrated. Miltank isnt worth my time either. I really do hate A LOT of normal types. But snorlax is cool, just wasnt thikning of him at the time.

Ursaring??? Who the hell is ursaring? did you really have to pull every normal type you know?. Is that the bear who evolves from teddiursa? I dont even use clefable like that anyway.

Most of the time, my team is. Charmeleon/Typlosion, Blastoise, Raichu, Espeon, Houndoom (because its a dark type), Venusaur..... In the older GSC series. I dont know anything about the 3rd generation.....I stopped after the second

Dont tell me when you play pokemon you pack a team full of normal types?

Smarties-chan
April 30th, 2006, 09:34 AM
No matter how cute it is, I have to admit Magikarp is pretty useless, but I love it none the less ^_^
Pikachu is kind of overrated, but it evolves into Raichu. Wich is hands down one of the best electric pokemon (if you train pkachu before using your thunderstone). Electabuzz, Zapdos, Ampharos, Raichu. Are the only decent eletric pokemon.
To be honest, Raichu is one of the worst Electric types out there -_-
Lanturn > Raichu any day, almost every last stage Electric type kicks Raichu's butt

But dodrio is part flying, I really meant the pure normal types. I hate kanghaskan, she is overrated. Miltank isnt worth my time either. I really do hate A LOT of normal types. But snorlax is cool, just wasnt thikning of him at the time.
Excuse me... did you just say Miltank sucks? O_O Miltank is an awesome Pokémon, high HP, Attack, Speed and Defense, plus a good movepool that includes a healing move. I think someone needs a reality check here.
Oh, and Stantler kicks butt aswell, I just thought I'd let you know.

Lanturn is totally NOT the worst pokemon. And neither is Azumarill. Both of which were spelled wrong in the original post. -.- I mean come on... that's saying that Stantler is a better pokemon than those two... or that Sentret is... or Pichu and Smoochum. Gimme a break.
Oye! How dare you insult Stantler! >D Stantler is an awesome Normal type and is just as good as Lanturn, they just have different purposes >.<

enyce
April 30th, 2006, 10:07 AM
Besides, being cute. high stats. And not weak against almost any type. Normal types serve no purpose to me.

I never have normal types on my team, just not me

Alter Ego
April 30th, 2006, 10:28 AM
Wow, cluelessness rules supreme...o.o I'm afraid that I have no choice but to comment.

First of all, let's not have all this nonsense about including first-stage/baby pokémon, you might feel awfully clever about it but it's painfully obvious that they are (with a couple of exceptions) inferior to their evolved counterparts. Now to move on...

piggey evolves into pidgeotto and pidgeot. SO nothing is wrong wit pidgey and it evolves quite fast.

And that helps how, exactly? If you want to talk weak, made-to-be-forgotten pokémon then Pidgeot is a very good place to start. It has a hopelessly weak statline for a 3rd stage pokémon in which the only good stat is the Speed which is, unfortunately, more or less out of the window because of the medicore Attack stat and narrow movepool...Aerial Ace, Steel Wing, and Double-Edge are just about all of the effective (or at least semi-effective) moves you can stick on a Pidgeot outside of the influence of BattleNet/Cheat programs. I think this one is near the very bottom of the list. -.-

I thought snorlax was something else, but hes good.

Rattata is not worth it for hyper fang, Lugia is a good pokemon, aeroblast is worth it. Parasect, i never ever ever ever have a pokemon with quad weaknesses on me. With the exception for Charizard and Dragonite. Parasects death is guranteeed with a fire move, charizard would be killed with a rock move. Dragonite is dead with some ice. Parasect is a useless pokemon with a good attack thats all. Same goes for rattata.

Of course you don't train Raticate for Hyper Fang...Super Fang possibly, if you've got the strategy for it, but not Hyper Fang (80 power, 90 accuracy, minor flinch chance). However, Raticate is a decent, easy-to-raise, early-game sweeper with a commendably wide movepool. It's not the best, but it does its job.

Miltank isnt worth my time either.

Yeah, most N00Bs tend to think that. Miltank is actually a formidable tank/cleric pokémon since it's capable of learning both the HP recovery move Milk Drink and the status recovery move Heal Bell and has enough defenses and HP to keep it alive as well as a fair range of physical moves (Earthquake, Body Slam/Return/Double-edge, Shadow Ball, Brick Break) and an above-average Attack stat to make use of them. Furthermore, the Thick Fat trait works wonders from a defensive perspective since it halves damage from both Fire and Ice attacks. It's not quite on par with Snorlax, but certainly a top-notch pokémon, and completely out of the league of over-appreciated ones like Pidgeot which you seem so keen on defending.


Ursaring??? Who the hell is ursaring? did you really have to pull every normal type you know?. Is that the bear who evolves from teddiursa? I dont even use clefable like that anyway.

Wow...that comment makes you sound like you really know what you're talking about. Yeah, Ursaring is the evolved form of Teddiursa and happen to possess a tremendous Attack stat as well the 'Guts' trait. If you'd ever been hit by a Sleep Talking Ursaring, you'd know not to take them too lightly. Once again, this isn't one of the best due to the lack of Speed and Defenses, but it's once again far from the worst.

Most of the time, my team is. Charmeleon/Typlosion, Blastoise, Raichu, Espeon, Houndoom (because its a dark type), Venusaur..... In the older GSC series. I dont know anything about the 3rd generation.....I stopped after the second

Dont tell me when you play pokemon you pack a team full of normal types?

Any intelligent player uses a wide variety of types, but only a fool dismisses a whole large range of pokémon species without every giving them a try. And anyway, using Charmeleon...if it isn't for sentimental reasons then it's not a good move. You might think of it as an oh-so-clever way of avoiding the 4x Rock weakness of Charizard, but the fact of the matter is that Zard's significantly better statline, slightly wider movepool, and immunity to Earthquake far outweigh that penalty. Also, Espeon isn't really all that great since it's got a very poor movepool for a special sweeper (Psychic is the only one from its learnset that does real damage ingame) and doesn't really have the moves or stats for anything else. I have one on my team, but only out of nostalgia...not because I think it's T3H L33T PKMN 111oneoneone!!!

I know this was said a while back but... I can't take it!!

Lanturn is totally NOT the worst pokemon. And neither is Azumarill. Both of which were spelled wrong in the original post. -.- I mean come on... that's saying that Stantler is a better pokemon than those two... or that Sentret is... or Pichu and Smoochum. Gimme a break.

Sorry Melissa, but you chose a very poor first example of a pokémon weaker than Lanturn and Azumarill. It's actually got a fair deal of most stats, as well as a quite decent selection of physical moves (Earthquake/ Return/Shadow Ball, anyone?) and furthermore, the additional benefit of Hypnosis is a nice way of disrupting your opponent's team. I'd say it's about on par with Lanturn, perhaps slightly weaker...but I'd say that there are better examples of significantly weaker pokémon, such as Furret and Pidgeot, which would have served better. However, I still support the core of your argument. Lanturn kicks buttocks! XO It's got a whopping 125 base HP which lets it hold its own, despite a slightly-below-average Defense and an average Sp.Defense, and it's movepool is great (Surf, Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, Thunder Wave, and Confuse Ray are all quite useful). Finally, the STAB it gets for Thunderbolt gives it an edge against other Water types while the 'Volt Absorb' trait protects it from electric attacks and it still has STAB on Surf which can be used to OHKO incoming Ground types. Overall, Lanturn is a well-rounded pokémon, which is why some people use it on NetBattle, even outside of the UU metagame.

As for Azumarill...it might look neglectable at first glance, but the 'Huge Power' trait (50% extra Attack) combined with its slightly above average defenses and high HP (100 in the base-stat) and lack of weaknesses due to its pure Water type makes it a quite formidable foe. The movepool could use some improvement, but Azumarill still has its uses and is most certainly not among the weakest.


...and Lugia is the only one who uses Aeroblast. And Parasect was the only one who learned Spore. These are all worthless attacks?

Correction, Breloom and Smeargle can also learn Spore, and both do are better choices than Parasect. Personally, I think it looks cool, but its type combination puts it at a horrible disadvantage (4x weakness against Fire and Flying, 2x Weakness against Rock, Poison and Ice with only a o.25 resistance against grass and a 0.5 resistance against Water and Fighting to compensate) and the statline is quite lacking. The horrible movepool isn't helping either, Spore is cool, but it lacks any proper physical moves with which to take advantage of the time the opponent spends in sleep while simultaneously possessing a weak Sp.Attack which criples what few Grass moves it can learn. Strongest STAB moves are Fury Cutter and Giga Drain...enough said...-.- As for Lugia's Aeroblast...it's a bleeding waste. =\ Lugia's Sp.Attack is a good bit higher than it's Attack, and since it's more defensively-minded anyway (Toxic, Recover, and Whirlwind are popular and effective move choices) that last slot tends to go to either Psychic or Ice Beam since they are more useful.

However, although I don't see the relevance between Metronome being a crappy attack and Clefable's power, said pokémon is inferior to Wigglytuff, in my opinion, since Wigglytuff has a much higher HP, making it an ideal candidate for baiting physical attackers with Counter. Clefable is mainly useful in double battle where the 'Follow Me' move (all opponents' attacks are targeted on the user) combined with its solid HP and defenses make it great for diverting attacks while you set up its partner for sweeping.

Game wise I'd say Dunsparce just because it's plain, boring and bad. The only people who like it were those kids in the one episode that were ubsessed about them.

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Tremble, heretic. I shall devour your soul. >E Dunsparce is one of my very favourite pokémon (mostly appearance-wise ^-^) and certainly not boring! It's statline is pretty weak, yeah, but the 'Serene Grace' trait (Doubles the success chance for all 'added effect' attacks, Rock Slide, Body Slam etc.) open up some interesting opportunities. Ever tried to land a hit on a Dunsparce that's hit you into paralysis with a Body Slam (60% chance of causing it, 25% of preventing attack), followed it up with Attract (50% chance of preventing attack) and then started bombarding its now slower opponent with Rock Slide (60% flinch chance)? It's quite deadly...o.o

Definatly Magikarp, the only moves it can learn are splash and flail. Yeah, that's going to defeat everything. And Woboffet, I think the only attack it can use is counter? Pikachu is kind of annoying, I bet everyone who watched the programme first and bought the game later thought that it could beat everything, which obviously it can't.

Dude, you are so missinformed. Wobbuffet can use both Counter and Mirror Coat, which, in effect, covers all direct attacks except for special attacks from Dark types and physical attacks from Ghost types. It can also learn Safeguard which protects it from status attacks and Encore to force opponents onto a specific move and so provide cover for a switch, has its signature trait 'Shadow Tag' which prevents opponents from switching out while its active, and possess a godly HP which lets it soak up attacks like no-one's bussiness. Wobbuffet weak? Don't make me laugh, as far as I know it's the only non-legendary pokémon which has been labled Uber. In fact, it's considered stronger than both the legendary cats (I won't stand any of this 'dog' nonsense) and the legendary birds.

TboneShukle, In Pokemon XD It Sux Badly, Its Attacks Are Really Weak And Pointless.

And have you ever considered that it might have been meant for something else than just straight-out attacking? <.< Shuckle is weak in XD since that game is mainly centered around double battles while Shuckle is at its best in a one-on-one stall. Yes, it's attack stats are absolutely horrendous, but its defenses are the highest in the game (Way higher than even the oh-so-famous Defense Deoxys) which makes it quite a tough nut to crack. The base HP is disgracefully low, however, which limits Shuckle's power, but with Toxic, Encore, Wrap, and Rest it's still quite a strong fighter in its own right. And incidentally, even Shuckle can work in physical attacking to some degree, I tried. And I'll have you know that my CB Shuckle in Netbattle once KOed a standard Celebi. There's 'weakest pokémon' for you. =P

As for you Feebas bashers...you need to die so bad. Feebas is cute and lovable and huggable and-and it's certainly better than Magikarp! xO ybur_angel would have your hides for slandering the poor little fishies, but since she's incapacitated at the moment I'm afraid that I shall have to do a little substitute work. *Pulls out borrowed blue cheese bazooka and fires it at all Feebas bashers* EAT CHEESE! >O

Ahem, back on topic...Feebas has a pretty weak statline, yeah, but its ability to learn a fair amount of TM, HM, and eggy moves still places it above the very worst fighters, and as it so happens, certain people have beaten the Emerald Pokémon League using only Feebas, so in your faces. =P Anyhow, training a Feebas is more about style than power. ^-^

Finally...Luvdisc, I agree, if I had to pick a single worst it would probably be that one. Now for personal reasons I hate Spinda more, but since that little mutant rabbit is better in a fight, I'll go for Luvdisc here. It's got a very stupid and unimaginative design which mostly makes it look like some kind of bean and it has nothing new to come with, be it by trait, type-combination or movepool. I wouldn't miss it if it was gone.

And that...should be enough ranting from me for a while. xD

Xtacy
April 30th, 2006, 11:17 AM
Personally, I think it looks cool, but its type combination puts it at a horrible disadvantage

Parasect sucks yes (though it has sentimental value), but I was talking about the attack Spore rather then the Pokemon who learns it (like Super Fang, despite only Raticate learning it). Also, yes I know others can now learn it (I said "was" rather then "is").

As for enyce....err...I can't really think of anything else to add since Alter Ego covered almost all of your post. So I'll reply when you reply to his points.......

Luvdisc, I agree

Finally.......

friday13th
April 30th, 2006, 12:52 PM
Digit is the worst, really boring :l


definatly

friday13th
April 30th, 2006, 12:53 PM
Actually,

Clefairy is the worst

Really annoyed me, just the look of it

enyce
April 30th, 2006, 05:22 PM
alter -ego

I guess you have good points

I forgot about parasects 4x weakness to flying also.....Charizard is immune to earthquake, that is very true. But I only avoided its 4x weakness once. And it was my current go round on the silver version. But a pokemon with a 4x weakneess to two types is real real real horrible....

But enough of this argument, Ill admit that I lost. i have been proven that there are other better normal types than pidgeot. I over-rated it. Snorlax is good, So is Ursaring and Miltank.... But seriously did you have to type an essay on pokemon ??? But I dont know anything about natures or anything. Because Im not in on the new generation. So that argument isnt valid to me......

Xtacy
April 30th, 2006, 05:56 PM
I still don't get how this turned into a discussion of Parasect's worth....

p.s. Insulting someone (Alter Ego) for being informed is not that great a thing to do.

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Friday13th, really, don’t double post. There’s something called an “Edit” button.

Also, agreeing with everything Alter Ego just said. Except few minor nitpicks:


Also, Espeon isn't really all that great since it's got a very poor movepool for a special sweeper (Psychic is the only one from its learnset that does real damage ingame) and doesn't really have the moves or stats for anything else. I have one on my team, but only out of nostalgia...not because I think it's T3H L33T PKMN 111oneoneone!!!

Psychic aside, Espeon functions a lot differently than something like Alakazam. It's job isn't to kill kill kill as fast as it can, but rather to Substitute, boost with Calm Mind, and then pass to another special sweeper. With the addition of XD, Hypno can do this somewhat better, but Espeon's Baton Passing set has always been a classic.

However, although I don't see the relevance between Metronome being a crappy attack and Clefable's power, said pokémon is inferior to Wigglytuff, in my opinion, since Wigglytuff has a much higher HP, making it an ideal candidate for baiting physical attackers with Counter. Clefable is mainly useful in double battle where the 'Follow Me' move (all opponents' attacks are targeted on the user) combined with its solid HP and defenses make it great for diverting attacks while you set up its partner for sweeping

Actually, Clefable works in 1vs.1 as well and much better than Wigglytuff. Ice Beam + Thunderbolt + Counter + Softboiled/Wish is a really good set. With enough HP and Defense EVs, it can even survive a STABed Brick Break and Counter it back.


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BrownEyedGirl
April 30th, 2006, 06:38 PM
Most definetly Koffing, Rattata, and Tentacool.

xMeteorxStriker
April 30th, 2006, 07:07 PM
All pokemon have some purpose within the game some we havent exactly found that purpose yet so as of now the worst pokemon are easily luvdisc and dunsparce but they will have a purpose take my word on that one!

YoshiRiRu
April 30th, 2006, 07:14 PM
Wow. There are so many that are utterly useless in my opinion.
Some people say Smoochum, but she learns Psychic, a move that Jynx doesn't learn naturally. So, save that TM for someone who needs it.

As a general rule, bug types suck except for in the beginning. I don't think I know of very many people who will take on the Elite 4 with a Beedril in their line-up. Don't flame and be like "SYTHUR LOLOLOL" because that's an obvious one. And even Scyther isn't ridiculously outstanding.

Same for certain normal types. I usually start off with something like a Ratatta, or it's equivalent. (Sentret, Zigzagoon) But usually, I evolve em, and ditch em. Some pokemon like meowth I find obsolete.

I can't believe nobody has said this, but Ditto is a horrible pokemon. I have never ever used a ditto ever. My only reason for using a Ditto is for breeding. It's too weak to be effective at killing or living, and the 5 PP per move makes it too hard to move quick enough to get a killing stroke in.

Porygon. Also something I have never used, and never plan to.

OMFG. UNOWN. STUPIDEST POKEMON EVER. 'NUFF SAID.

Wobbuffet, Dunsparce, Gligar.. I could just not see myself effectively battling with these pokemon.

Shuckle is a tank. That's it. Maybe in competetive battling. But I think Not-So-Cooltrainer Parry could eat Shuckle for breakfast.

Corsola, Luvdisc.. Similar. Both water types.. both mediocre stats. BOTH OBSOLETE.

Plusle and Minun are purely for looks. They are painfully average. I guess in Colluseum, always using 2 of them.. but otherwise... SRY LOL.

Spinda. Dumb.

Castform. Painfully inconvenient.

I never found Poison types to be good for anything but.. uh.. poisoning. And while it's always useful to have your opponent poisoned, it's not something i would like with me backed into a corner.

While I have not used every pokemon, I believe I can safely say that the pokemon above would have NO use for me.

xMeteorxStriker
April 30th, 2006, 07:20 PM
Wow. There are so many that are utterly useless in my opinion.
Some people say Smoochum, but she learns Psychic, a move that Jynx doesn't learn naturally. So, save that TM for someone who needs it.

As a general rule, bug types suck except for in the beginning. I don't think I know of very many people who will take on the Elite 4 with a Beedril in their line-up. Don't flame and be like "SYTHUR LOLOLOL" because that's an obvious one. And even Scyther isn't ridiculously outstanding.

Same for certain normal types. I usually start off with something like a Ratatta, or it's equivalent. (Sentret, Zigzagoon) But usually, I evolve em, and ditch em. Some pokemon like meowth I find obsolete.

I can't believe nobody has said this, but Ditto is a horrible pokemon. I have never ever used a ditto ever. My only reason for using a Ditto is for breeding. It's too weak to be effective at killing or living, and the 5 PP per move makes it too hard to move quick enough to get a killing stroke in.

Porygon. Also something I have never used, and never plan to.

OMFG. UNOWN. STUPIDEST POKEMON EVER. 'NUFF SAID.

Wobbuffet, Dunsparce, Gligar.. I could just not see myself effectively battling with these pokemon.

Shuckle is a tank. That's it. Maybe in competetive battling. But I think Not-So-Cooltrainer Parry could eat Shuckle for breakfast.

Corsola, Luvdisc.. Similar. Both water types.. both mediocre stats. BOTH OBSOLETE.

Plusle and Minun are purely for looks. They are painfully average. I guess in Colluseum, always using 2 of them.. but otherwise... SRY LOL.

Spinda. Dumb.

Castform. Painfully inconvenient.

I never found Poison types to be good for anything but.. uh.. poisoning. And while it's always useful to have your opponent poisoned, it's not something i would like with me backed into a corner.

While I have not used every pokemon, I believe I can safely say that the pokemon above would have NO use for me.


You my friend are a hippocrite you named like one pokemon that were utterly usesless...
Ditto-Breeding
Bugs-Begining(Gotsta start somewhere)
Castform-Many stategy possibilities!
Rattatta etc-Start
Plusle Minun-TEAMWORK COMBOS!
Porygon-Can Be Good
Spinda-THERE WILL BE ONE
Corsola-LEARNS RECOVER SO CAN BE POWERFUL!

Xtacy
April 30th, 2006, 07:37 PM
As a general rule, bug types suck except for in the beginning. I don't think I know of very many people who will take on the Elite 4 with a Beedril in their line-up. Don't flame and be like "SYTHUR LOLOLOL" because that's an obvious one. And even Scyther isn't ridiculously outstanding.

Scyther, Pinsir, Heracross, etc., don't suck.

Corsola-LEARNS RECOVER SO CAN BE POWERFUL!

Eh.......learning recover doesn't automatically grant you power....especially in the case of Corsola....

enyce
April 30th, 2006, 08:00 PM
Scyther, Pinsir, Heracross, etc., don't suck.


Somehting we agree on, scyther is exceptionally fast and it evolves into scizor. But i would think twice about scizro because of its quad weakness to fire. Pinsir has power. Heracross learns mega horn.

Ariados doesnt suck either...

YoshiRiRu
April 30th, 2006, 08:03 PM
You my friend are a hippocrite you named like one pokemon that were utterly usesless...
Ditto-Breeding
Bugs-Begining(Gotsta start somewhere)
Castform-Many stategy possibilities!
Rattatta etc-Start
Plusle Minun-TEAMWORK COMBOS!
Porygon-Can Be Good
Spinda-THERE WILL BE ONE
Corsola-LEARNS RECOVER SO CAN BE POWERFUL!

Dude, you need to more carefully read my post. I don't think you countered my arguments very well. Basically, you just said "WELL, MAYBE!" a bunch of times.

As a general rule, bug types suck except for in the beginning.

I usually start off with something like a Ratatta, or it's equivalent. (Sentret, Zigzagoon) But usually, I evolve em, and ditch em.


I know their useful In the beginning, but I'm talking about in the long run, useless pokemon.

Plusle and Minun are purely for looks. They are painfully average. I guess in Colluseum, always using 2 of them.. but otherwise... SRY LOL.

Are you saying that you'd use a Plusle or a Minun by themselves in R/S? (which is basically only single battle)

Porygon-Can Be Good

Translation: WELL, MAYBE!

My only reason for using a Ditto is for breeding.

Did I not say that?

Castform-Many stategy possibilities!

It's not powerful enough to execute them effectively.

Scyther, Pinsir, Heracross, etc., don't suck.

Don't flame and be like "SYTHUR LOLOLOL" because that's an obvious one.

I wasn't blowing smoke when I said that, friend.

Ariados doesnt suck either...

I don't like when people do this. When I say a type generally sucks, I don't mean every single bug pokemon blows hard. I know certain ones are good, but as a general rule, most bug pokemon are not very useful.

xMeteorxStriker
April 30th, 2006, 08:50 PM
Yah im just lazy lol
i used corsola on Netbattle and did perty good won with it some its all in how u use a pokemon

Natsuki
April 30th, 2006, 08:57 PM
Okay guys, please try not to make things so tense here. XD; I'm not pointing fingers at anyone individually, it just seems tempers are running a little high in some places in this thread. oo;

Anywho...another Pokemon I have never been very fond of has to be Weedle. <<; It's more a matter of "I really don't like bugs." than anything else. XD And to tell you the truth I never really enjoyed training one either...so tedious. <.<

~Kelsey

YoshiRiRu
April 30th, 2006, 09:24 PM
What? No hostility here. Just.. er.. friendly debate. Yeah. *twitch*

Smarties-chan
April 30th, 2006, 11:52 PM
All you Spinda flamers out there, did you know that my Netbattle Spinda has kicked many OU Pokémon's butt efortlessly? =P
Psychic aside, Espeon functions a lot differently than something like Alakazam. It's job isn't to kill kill kill as fast as it can, but rather to Substitute, boost with Calm Mind, and then pass to another special sweeper. With the addition of XD, Hypno can do this somewhat better, but Espeon's Baton Passing set has always been a classic.
I think Alter Ego was reffering to Espeon's functionality in-game, okay, Calm Mind passing can be good on the Battle Frontier, but doesn't serve much other purpose in in-game playing.
Anywho...another Pokemon I have never been very fond of has to be Weedle. <<;
How dare you insult Weedle! D= It's one of the cutest things you'll ever see, and if used right, Beedrill can actually be quite useful ^_____^
Ditto-Breeding Ditto-Breeding
Ditto-Breeding. Ditto can actually be quite useful in battle too, seeing as it copies the opponent's stats (including stat changes) and moves. It can be surprising
Bugs-Begining(Gotsta start somewhere). Not all bugs are only good in the beggining, even Dustox can be useful later in the game (or in Netbattle), if used right. (it's a nice Toxishuffler ^________^)
Castform-Many stategy possibilities! I agree, and I partly agree with YoshiRiRu about it being strong enough to take advantage of them, but with the added effect of Rain Dance, Weatherball and Thunder can do some serious damage on a Castform (Weatherball alone is quite strong, now let's add in the STAB and Rain Dance bonus, and let's not forget about Thunder getting 100% accuracy from Rain Dance)
Rattatta etc-Start. I have to agree with YoshiRiRu, however, Raticate can do quite a lot of damage with a Choice Band
Plusle Minun-TEAMWORK COMBOS! They don't have enough physical defense, Snorlax (or any other Special sponge/wall that uses physical attacks) would screw them over easily
Porygon-Can Be Good Not only can, but it is good -_- Yoshiriru, I highly suggest you try finding out something about a Pokémon's stat line and movepool before you say it sucks
Spinda-THERE WILL BE ONE I believe I already said what I have to say about Spinda earlier
Corsola-LEARNS RECOVER SO CAN BE POWERFUL! It doesn't have enough defenses or HP to take full advantage of Recover, most Pokémon will OHko Corsola or put it in the red zone with one attack, so Recover is practicaly useless here
I added my comments (this is directed at you too, YoshiRiRu) in bold, because I was too lazy to write (or copy) another list of those Pokémon into my post x_x

I never found Poison types to be good for anything but.. uh.. poisoning. And while it's always useful to have your opponent poisoned, it's not something i would like with me backed into a corner.
Ever heard about Crobat, Weezing or Seviper(Seviper is suprisingly strong)? -_- Muk and Arbok also kick butt if they are used correctly, and let's not forget about Ariados either.
Wobbuffet, Dunsparce, Gligar.. I could just not see myself effectively battling with these pokemon.
There is a reason for why Wobbuffet is consider an uber -_-
Dunsparce's Serene Grace trait makes it a total killer, Body Slam, Rockslide/Headbutt, Shadow Ball (to lower the opponent's SP.Defense for your next Pokémon to take care of),Counter and correct EVs, and I assure you, it can beat almost any Pokémon (apart from ubers). Dunsparce can also be quite fun to use with Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, Flamethrower and Counter.

poke lover
May 1st, 2006, 02:07 AM
Personally, I don't think any Pokemon are bad, but thats just me.

DININI
May 1st, 2006, 02:20 AM
hm...i hate : wubbufet and dewgong they are very ugly :P

Latias-
May 1st, 2006, 02:31 AM
Whismur; 'cuz its so ugly.

xMeteorxStriker
May 1st, 2006, 08:05 AM
I still think all pokemon can be used

Xtacy
May 1st, 2006, 12:09 PM
I wasn't blowing smoke when I said that, friend.

In case you forgot, Pinsir and Heracross aren't Scyther.

Just a friendly reminder, of course. smiley -> :nervous:

Lt. Surge's Raichu
May 1st, 2006, 12:36 PM
Magicarp is made just for laughs, the pokemon is totally useless, since you can catch gyarados without evolving it from magicarp

ysera
May 2nd, 2006, 08:29 PM
i really don't like the looks of shiny victreebell..

Smarties-chan
May 4th, 2006, 12:08 AM
Why do so many people say a Pokémon is bad because they think it's ugly? -_- Why do you think there is a cutest/ugliest Pokémon topic?
Magicarp is made just for laughs, the pokemon is totally useless, since you can catch gyarados without evolving it from magicarp
Yea, you can. But you ignored the fact that trained Pokémon are stronger than those caught in the wild, also, if you catch a wild Gyarados it will already have EVs, meaning it can't be fully EV-trained.

Magikarp is also significantly easier to capture, meaning getting a Gyarados with a good nature will be easier if you catch Magikarp instead of Gyarados.

mew_rocks
May 4th, 2006, 12:37 AM
I think the worst pokemon type is leaf. I hate it plus I dont know many strong leaf pokemon...Dont get all gangsta on me all you people who love leaf pokemon its just an opinion and probably a wrong one but meh.

Toadsworth
May 4th, 2006, 09:52 PM
Smeargle if you catch it in cave in Battle Frontier, only knows sketch and that attack got 1pp

Metaforte
May 5th, 2006, 09:20 PM
I don't like Magikarp. I don't care what evreyone says about the EV's and such. I mainly mean if your talking about Netbattle. I also don't like Farfetche'd. It's stats are horrible and it's movepool sucks.

Gyrados is tight, however.

I think the worst pokemon type is leaf. I hate it plus I dont know many strong leaf pokemon...Dont get all gangsta on me all you people who love leaf pokemon its just an opinion and probably a wrong one but meh.

I understand. I ain't here to say you stupid or anything, just to show you that grass pokemon aern't all that bad.

Sceptile, a vey nice pokemon and tends to be my starter type each time I start a new game. It's fast and it can learn some clean moves. it can be an excellent special sweeper. Venasaur, not much about him, but he can be a decent Sunnybeamer. Bellosom and Ludicolo aern't that bad neither.

OK, that didn't much help, but I tried.

Xtacy
May 6th, 2006, 05:02 AM
I mainly mean if your talking about Netbattle.

Yes, as opposed to all those other unevolved Pokemon we would gladly use on Netbattle, right?

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May 6th, 2006, 06:32 PM
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Yea, you can. But you ignored the fact that trained Pokémon are stronger than those caught in the wild, also, if you catch a wild Gyarados it will already have EVs, meaning it can't be fully EV-trained.

Wild Pokemon never have EVs, even if they’re evolved.

Smeargle if you catch it in cave in Battle Frontier, only knows sketch and that attack got 1pp

Apparently someone doesn’t understand how Smeargle works. In-game Smeargles suck since its hard to get good moves. But Netbattle Smeargles strike fear in the hearts of trainers if they’re unprepared for a Spore and an ensuing Belly Drum or Endeavor.

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May 6th, 2006, 11:42 PM
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Wild Pokemon never have EVs, even if they’re evolved.

Really? =O Well, thanks for correcting me, Aragornbird.
I suddenly realized I don't even know where I got the idea of wild Pokémon having EVs from O.o Well, thanks again, for correcting me, Aragornbird.

JakeDaRappa
May 16th, 2006, 08:35 AM
The worst Pokemon has GATTA be SHEDINJA! It has only 1 HP and you CANT RAISE IT WITH HP UP!!!!! ITS SO F*CK*NG AWFULLY BAD!!!!!!!!!!

JakeDaRappa
May 16th, 2006, 08:42 AM
Smeargle if you catch it in cave in Battle Frontier, only knows sketch and that attack got 1pp
dude, Smeargle isn't bad at all. See this post and you'll have a better thought about it! (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=67478&highlight=Teach+Smeargle)

Yoko-Chan
May 16th, 2006, 10:23 AM
to be honest, non of them.
buuut, if i have to answer...magikarp maybe?

Yoko-Chan
May 16th, 2006, 10:31 AM
The worst Pokemon has GATTA be SHEDINJA! It has only 1 HP and you CANT RAISE IT WITH HP UP!!!!! ITS SO F*CK*NG AWFULLY BAD!!!!!!!!!!

ey, take it easy, you could kill someone you know! O.o
and that would have been sad ;_;

nah, just joking , but really, shedinja isn't THAT BAD!<_<

insectduel
May 16th, 2006, 10:33 AM
I hate Masquerain. It's abilities sucks. WORST POKEMON EVER

enyce
May 16th, 2006, 11:18 AM
hm...i hate : wubbufet and dewgong they are very ugly :P

First off its spelt wobbufet.

Sceondly Wobbufet is an awesome pokemon. The only pokemon with Counter AND mirror coat. In its move set. Wich are awesome moves when used correctly. Think about it, counter sends physical moves back with double the power. Mirror coat does the same thing for special.

There are only two types of attacks in pokemon. Physical and Special.

Wobbufet>>>your favorite countering pokemon. It can counter both. Plus it learns safegurad. Another good move that makes Wobbufet not get status problems for five whole turns. If you're feeling desperate. You can use destiny bond. To take yourself out with the enemy.

I will admit, the stats of wobbufet does suck. But thats it

JakeDaRappa
May 16th, 2006, 01:39 PM
to be honest, non of them.
buuut, if i have to answer...magikarp maybe?


Dude, like i said, Shednija is bad, but now that you mention it, i HATE fishing for rare, hard-2-catch fish and ending up catching a Magicarp! It is really annoying cuz usually the only move they know is Splash which does absolutlly NOTHING! Its really annoying.:\

The Fallen
May 16th, 2006, 06:44 PM
I would have to say Dunsparce. It has no real purpose. The moves it learns pretty much suck and it doesn't evolve making it hopeless, at least from my point of view.

feraligatr1.0
May 16th, 2006, 07:05 PM
Dude, like i said, Shednija is bad, but now that you mention it, i HATE fishing for rare, hard-2-catch fish and ending up catching a Magicarp! It is really annoying cuz usually the only move they know is Splash which does absolutlly NOTHING! Its really annoying.:\

Actually, magikarp learns flair and tackle as well, lv. 15 and 40, but to my opinion, magikarp and luvdisc, even dunspare are teh worst ever.

Gengar894
May 17th, 2006, 12:25 AM
Whiscash, Magicarp & Tropius. All three of them suck.

BROOKE_&_LUGIA
May 22nd, 2006, 06:05 PM
metepod, kakuna, silcoon, cascoon, weedle, caterpie, wurmple, magikarp, and dunsparce, becuase their attacks suk and they're sooo weak!

I also don't like zubat and tentecool!!! They ARE SOOO annoying!!!! You like run into them every other time in the game (like in the caves and in the water, UGGH!!!)

Kraka-chan
May 23rd, 2006, 04:14 AM
What about Ditto? It takes a while for it to transform (by then it would recieve an attack from the opponent) and when it does its attacks are only 5 PP each!
I find no use for Ditto except for Pokemon breeding.

Sorry if I'm going off topic.

Smarties-chan
May 23rd, 2006, 04:32 AM
I would have to say Dunsparce. It has no real purpose. The moves it learns pretty much suck and it doesn't evolve making it hopeless, at least from my point of view.
Actually, magikarp learns flair and tackle as well, lv. 15 and 40, but to my opinion, magikarp and luvdisc, even dunspare are teh worst ever.
Whiscash, Magicarp & Tropius. All three of them suck.
And I guess the concepts ''Serene Grace'', Body Slam, Headbutt/Rockslide and 60% Paralyze- and Flinch rate are unknown to you? -_-
Seriously, Dunsparce has the potential to defeat Mewtwo >D

Toothache
May 23rd, 2006, 04:46 AM
OMGhaxsparce!

Seriously, Dunsparce is awesome.

As for Pokemon that do not do so well (tries to be diplomatic), Farfetch'd is one, none of it's stats are close to average.

There are Pokemon that are meant to be worse than others, like Magikarp and Feebas, as a comparison to a) what they evolve into, and b) other Pokemon.

miyo
June 18th, 2006, 01:34 AM
I'm sorry if I angered anyone, but I'm gonna fight for Pikachu's rights... It's sooo adorable.. I mean, it's quite unreasonable to hate a pokemon that cute just because it appears in every episode..

ArKiVe
June 18th, 2006, 01:36 AM
I think the worst pokemon ever is Caterpie. It's such a loser LOL.

miyo
June 18th, 2006, 04:58 AM
I think the worst pokemon ever is Caterpie. It's such a loser LOL.

but caterpie did manage to defeat team rocket in one of the first few episodes of season one.......

~Rene~
June 18th, 2006, 06:46 AM
I think the worst Pokemons ever are Tentacool, Tentacruel, Gulpin and Swalot.

Eipru
June 26th, 2006, 07:51 PM
I hate Legendary Pokemon.
People always think they're better because they're difficult to obtain; my friend thinks his team kicks *** just because he has the Regis >_>''

Metaforte
June 26th, 2006, 08:35 PM
Dude, like i said, Shednija is bad annoying.:\

I don't tend to use Shedninja, but Wonder gaurd is a tight ability, so it kills it's worthlessnes. Then again, people have opinions, so it's not my right to say what your supposed to like and hate.

And I guess the concepts ''Serene Grace'', Body Slam, Headbutt/Rockslide and 60% Paralyze- and Flinch rate are unknown to you? -_-
Seriously, Dunsparce has the potential to defeat Mewtwo >D

Thank You. Dunsparce is a nice pokemon. Serene Grace with Body Slam is never a bad thing. Im going to start to use Dunsparce....

What about Ditto? It takes a while for it to transform (by then it would recieve an attack from the opponent) and when it does its attacks are only 5 PP each!
I find no use for Ditto except for Pokemon breeding.

Sorry if I'm going off topic.

Agreed. I HATE Ditto. It's a disgusting blob of worthless pink jello that can only be used usefully for breeding and target practice.

Pokemon Master 4ever
June 27th, 2006, 05:20 AM
I say Magikarp,cause all it can do until LV 15 is Splash.

MUSION
July 5th, 2006, 01:48 PM
I've always hate Jynx and Wigglytuff. Funnily enough, I quite like Clefable.

pokemaster7
July 8th, 2006, 09:48 AM
I'd have to say shedinja cause it only has 1 hp! and if you look at i'ts giant hole in i's back your soul will be sucked in(try sleeping at night now kids :laugh: ) although it's attack is admirable.

Lukynumbr4
July 9th, 2006, 07:42 PM
Metapod.. Even thought it evolves.. Its just SOOO lame.

Vampire://Krimm
July 9th, 2006, 07:55 PM
I despise FEEBAS!!! I absolutly hate feebas, worst pokemon ever

KittiexX
July 9th, 2006, 08:04 PM
Tentacool...
Cause...
They're annoying. And after ( I didn't get the map for aloooonnng time!) surfing around and around forever, searching for land, and having those stupid things attack you and not let you run away, even if your, like, a higher level, and your pokemon are all weak and dying and all the beeping!~
You get paranoid after awhile...*Nod, nod*...

And and and, they're stupid! XP

Tw1tch
July 10th, 2006, 07:28 AM
I hate Lotad/Lombre/Ludicolo! I don't care that Ludicolo has good stats, the Pokemon ANNOYS me so much.