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~Alakazam~
April 21st, 2006, 01:57 AM
Hey, i'm just about to get to the elite 4 but need a bit more training. What needs improvement here?

Snorlax Lv42
- Body Slam
- Rest
- Headbutt
- Sleep Talk

Gyarados Lv47
- Dragon Rage
- Rain Dance
- Hydro Pump
- Water Pulse

Kadabra Lv49
- Recover
- Future Sight
- Psychic
- Psybeam

Nidoking Lv49
- Horn Attack
- Megahorn
- Strength
- Earthquake

Charizard Lv50
- Sunny Day
- Wing Attack
- Flamethrower
- Blast Burn

M£A†¥
April 21st, 2006, 02:10 AM
Snorlax Lv42@Lum Berry
- Body Slam
- Rest
- Headbutt
- Sleep Talk

Gyarados Lv47@ Sea License
- Dragon Rage
- Rain Dance
- Hydro Pump
- Water Pulse

Kadabra Lv49@ Leftovers
- Recover
- Ice Punch
- Psychic
- Thunderbolt

Nidoking Lv49@ Leftovers
- Horn Attack
- Megahorn
- Body Slam
- Earthquake

Charizard Lv50@ Leftovers
- Sunny Day
- Aerial Ace
- Flamethrower
- Earthquake/Rock Slide

Johnny Boy~
April 21st, 2006, 02:12 AM
Snorlax Lv45
- Body Slam
- Rest
- Surf
- Sleep Talk

Gyarados Lv47
- Dragon Rage
- Thunder
- Hydro Pump
- earthquake

Kadabra Lv49
- Shadow Ball
- Iron Tail
- Psychic
- Psybeam

Nidoking Lv49
- Horn Attack
- Flamethrower
- Strength
- Earthquake

Charizard Lv50
- Arial Ace
- Wing Attack
- Flamethrower
- Blast Burn

Raichu Lv. 48
- Thunder
- Iron Tail
- Hyper Beam
- Focus Punch

No offense, but your pokemon levels are not high enough for the elite four. Train until all are between 50-58. Your team won't have any weaknesses that will effect them that much.

~Alakazam~
April 21st, 2006, 02:17 AM
Snorlax Lv42@Lum Berry
- Body Slam
- Rest
- Headbutt
- Sleep Talk

Gyarados Lv47@ Sea License
- Dragon Rage
- Rain Dance
- Hydro Pump
- Water Pulse

Kadabra Lv49@ Leftovers
- Recover
- Ice Punch
- Psychic
- Thunderbolt

Nidoking Lv49@ Leftovers
- Horn Attack
- Megahorn
- Body Slam
- Earthquake

Charizard Lv50@ Leftovers
- Sunny Day
- Aerial Ace
- Flamethrower
- Earthquake/Rock Slide

But where can I get a sea license?

M£A†¥
April 21st, 2006, 02:22 AM
Take con's advice about Raichu.

You get Sea License by Mt.Pyre.

My account can't commonly post any more, sorry!

Johnny Boy~
April 21st, 2006, 03:07 AM
If you are playing the game you seem to be playing, as in fire red/ leaf green, it can be found in lost cave, i forget which island.

charizard_maa
April 21st, 2006, 03:17 AM
Lost Cave on Island Five. If you have defeated the E4 once then you are able to go there. If not then you going have to import it from another LG or FR game.

I ok with some of the moveset but the Raichu could do better without the Hyper Beam attack and could do better if you teach it TUnderwave. Better chance to power up Focus Punch.

Johnny Boy~
April 21st, 2006, 03:23 AM
I guess you are right, but i don't like thunder wave. hyper beam is a suitable attack for raichu, because of his stats.

aragornbird
April 21st, 2006, 08:06 AM
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Umm, no, Hyper Beam sucks and should never ever be used on any Pokemon. Also, con, don’t put physical attacks on Kadabra since its Attack stat is very low.

Anyways, calmind, I’ll be rating your team as if it was a complete level 100 team (that means some of the attacks you can’t get yet until you beat the Elite 4).

First off, Never give a Pokemon two attacking moves of the same type. That means choose only one Water or Flying or Fire or whatever type to a Pokemon. If you give a Pokemon two attacks of the same type, you greatly limit its ability to handle other opponents. For instance, you gave your Snorlax two Normal attacks. That means it can’t do anything to Steel or Ghost Pokemon since they are resistant or immune to your attacks. By giving it attacks of other types, like Shadow Ball or Earthquake, you’ll be better at handling opponent that you are normally weak against.

Hey, i'm just about to get to the elite 4 but need a bit more training. What needs improvement here?

Snorlax Lv42
- Double-Edge
- Rest
- Shadow Ball/Earthquake
- Sleep Talk

Like I said, this Snorlax can't do anything against Ghost or Steel Pokemon. Shadow Ball or Earthquake should be in there instead of Headbutt. Use Shadow Ball if you're afraid of Gengar or use Earthquake if you're afraid of Tyranitar and Metagross. On a Sleep Talking Snorlax, Double-Edge is a better move than Body Slam since it does more damage and Snorlax can heal away the recoil damage with Rest.

Gyarados Lv47
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Return
- Hydro Pump/Thunder Wave

Gyarados isn't much of a special attacker since its special attack is so low. Please take advantage of its high Attack and ability to learn Dragon Dance. You'll have to find extra Earthquake TMs, since I'm gonna be suggesting that a lot for this team. Too bad Gyarados can't learn Aerial Ace, so you'll have to opt for another powerful move like Return. You can keep Hydro Pump as your last move, or you can Thunder Wave opponents.

Alakazam Lv49
- Recover/Ice Punch/Thunderpunch
- Fire Punch
- Psychic
- Calm Mind

Well, there's no way this Kadabra can do anything to Darks, and Steels and other Psychics also give it trouble. And please evolve it into Alakazam. Anyways, Fire Punch for Steels, Calm Mind to boost your attacking power, and if any other Pokemon are giving you trouble, feel free to add another elemental punch in there. These elemental punches are tutors in Emerald.

Nidoking Lv49
- Sludge Bomb
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake

Normal attacks are unneeded on Nidoking since it can learn better attacks of other types. Sludge Bomb is important since Nidoking gets STAB off of it. Rock Slide lets it handle Flying Pokemon.

Charizard Lv50
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Flamethrower
- Swords Dance

You shouldn't use both Rain Dance and Sunny Day on the same team since they conflict with each other and will mess you up. Charizard is often used as a physical attacker with a Fire attack. Aerial Ace and Earthquake are its standard moves and Sword Dance powers them up.


You definitely need a sixth Pokemon. I suggest Weezing, Cloyster, or Forretress since its important for teams to be able to defend against both special and physical moves. Snorlax can defend against special moves, and the three Pokemon above are good at defending against physical.

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M£A†¥
April 22nd, 2006, 01:13 AM
These is my Raichu, I alway have better luck!

Raichu@Leftovers,
Body Slam
Iron Tail
Volt Takle
Light Screen

Aragonbird: Cloyster's SP.DEF is not that high, if he wants to have a team with pokemon that has SP.DEF & PH.DEF, he could use Togetic with 205+ PH.ATK and 300+ SP.DEF, Weezing is okay but Forretress. NEVER should Rapid Spin on any pokemon, because because that move sucks, I already know you and/or your friends will put that move.

electricgrass
April 22nd, 2006, 01:18 AM
Snorlax Lv42
- Body Slam
- Rest
- shadow ball
- Sleep Talk

Gyarados Lv47
- Dragon dance
- EQ
- Hydro Pump/surf
- return

Kadabra Lv49
- Recover
- calm mind
- Psychic
- fire/ice/thunder punch

Nidoking Lv49
- sludge bomb
- Megahorn
- ice beam/t-bolt
- Earthquake

Charizard Lv50
- EQ
- Wing Attack
- Flamethrower
- dragon claw/rock slide

If you hate my suggestions then listen to aragonbird and not meaty and con

aragornbird
April 22nd, 2006, 01:33 AM
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Aragonbird: Cloyster's SP.DEF is not that high, if he wants to have a team with pokemon that has SP.DEF & PH.DEF, he could use Togetic with 205+ PH.ATK and 300+ SP.DEF, Weezing is okay but Forretress. NEVER should Rapid Spin on any pokemon, because because that move sucks, I already know you and/or your friends will put that move.

Did you read what I said? I said that Cloyster, Weezing, and Forretress are good at defending against PHYSICAL attacks. Physical, not special. That’s is the point of a physical wall.

And you totally don’t understand the point of Rapid Spin. It’s point is not to attack, it’s to clear away Spikes. Spikes is one of the most annoying moves in the game and its impossible to get rid of without Rapid Spin.

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M£A†¥
April 22nd, 2006, 01:38 AM
Snorlax Lv42
- Body Slam
- Rest
- shadow ball
- Sleep Talk

Gyarados Lv47
- Dragon dance
- EQ
- Hydro Pump/surf
- return

Kadabra Lv49
- Recover
- calm mind
- Psychic
- fire/ice/thunder punch

Nidoking Lv49
- sludge bomb
- Megahorn
- ice beam/t-bolt
- Earthquake

Charizard Lv50
- EQ
- Wing Attack
- Flamethrower
- dragon claw/rock slide

If you hate my suggestions then listen to aragonbird and not meaty and con

My team has better skills, power, and body than yours!

~Alakazam~
April 22nd, 2006, 02:08 AM
Well, I barely beat the elite 4, but did. I needed 6 FR's, 5 MP's and 4 HP's, as well as 15 Revives. (I only used 6). I was seriously in need of an electric type, not a physical wall, it seemed. I taught Nidoking Thunder, and Kadabra got Calm Mind and Snorlax got Double Edge. Those are the improvements I made (I added a Lv46 Machoke at the very end for a sixth spot) and I will post my updated team for rating very soon.

M£A†¥
April 22nd, 2006, 02:16 AM
Well, I barely beat the elite 4, but did. I needed 6 FR's, 5 MP's and 4 HP's, as well as 15 Revives. (I only used 6). I was seriously in need of an electric type, not a physical wall, it seemed. I taught Nidoking Thunder, and Kadabra got Calm Mind and Snorlax got Double Edge. Those are the improvements I made (I added a Lv46 Machoke at the very end for a sixth spot) and I will post my updated team for rating very soon.

Good, I can;t wait to see the new pokemon so I can rate it first!

Johnny Boy~
April 22nd, 2006, 02:26 AM
Meaty, don't attempt to argue with that adm1n, aragornbird, he has his opinion on pokemon and will do all attempts to make the world battle like him. he has been following me around posting and saying stuff about my attacks to everyone i posted to. Annoying as spikes. rapid spin isn't neccasary, considering you don't have to defend against spikes in almost 94% of the pokemon battles. You, calmind, you choose who's moveset u want, and you don't have to use anymoveset u don't want. if you don't like mine, don't choose it. there is no need to critic my moveset just because i think hyper beam when used my no n00bs is effective and more important than rapid spin.
Now back to calmind. The reason i suggested raichu is because you need that type of pokemon. it just adds on to the team, fits perfectly. Aragornbird, if you don't wanna see me post movesets fine, stop posting where i post. There are more to post to.

Fr0st
April 22nd, 2006, 02:35 AM
Gyarados Lv47@ Sea License
- Dragon Rage
- Rain Dance
- Hydro Pump
- Water Pulse

Sea Lisence, LOL... It's sea incense and it's a Crappy item and should onli be used to breed a marril... Not to be mean but when u say...

My team has better skills, power, and body than yours!

You're wrong because electricgrass' team is better thuoght out than youre... by alot
Calmind I would rate your team but Aragornbird beat me to it and his rates are nearly always perfect so go with his rates and the Elite four will be easy

P.S con, that wasn't a good idea... Aragornbird is a respected NBler and he knows more about movesets than you do. Hence his title as Mod in 2 Months

aragornbird
April 22nd, 2006, 02:42 AM
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Meaty, don't attempt to argue with that adm1n, aragornbird, he has his opinion on pokemon and will do all attempts to make the world battle like him.
What are you talking about? Those sets I suggested are standard sets, made a long time ago ever since R/S came out. These have been proven to work by hundreds of trainers who have played way before me.

he has been following me around posting and saying stuff about my attacks to everyone i posted to.
I don't follow you around. In fact, I usually post in these topics before you do.

Annoying as spikes. rapid spin isn't neccasary, considering you don't have to defend against spikes in almost 94% of the pokemon battles.
Have you ever fought real people before? 94% of people use Spikes in there teams which is why Rapid Spin is important.

You, calmind, you choose who's moveset u want, and you don't have to use anymoveset u don't want. if you don't like mine, don't choose it.
He doesn't have to, but he is choosing to because that's why he came here - to ask for help.

there is no need to critic my moveset just because i think hyper beam when used my no n00bs is effective and more important than rapid spin.
Haven't you ever learned, in this forum or in real life, that criticism is very important. Without criticism, people won't be willing to improve.

Now back to calmind. The reason i suggested raichu is because you need that type of pokemon. it just adds on to the team, fits perfectly. Aragornbird, if you don't wanna see me post movesets fine, stop posting where i post.
There are more to post to.
Actually, you should take that advice for yourself. I'm the mod of this forum so it's my job to look over every post. I don't care if you post your movesets or not. But you should really learn to take others advice instead of being so stubborn.

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M£A†¥
April 22nd, 2006, 03:06 AM
Sea Lisence, LOL... It's sea incense and it's a Crappy item and should onli be used to breed a marril... Not to be mean but when u say...



You're wrong because electricgrass' team is better thuoght out than youre... by alot
Calmind I would rate your team but Aragornbird beat me to it and his rates are nearly always perfect so go with his rates and the Elite four will be easy

P.S con, that wasn't a good idea... Aragornbird is a respected NBler and he knows more about movesets than you do. Hence his title as Mod in 2 Months

My team are tight as a mothersucker! My team could kill you and electicgrass put together!

I don't think Aragonbird should be moderator, the reason why I said that because he's already on another form. Thats not fair!!!

Mullet
April 22nd, 2006, 03:41 AM
My team are tight as a mothersucker! My team could kill you and electicgrass put together!

I don't think Aragonbird should be moderator, the reason why I said that because he's already on another form. Thats not fair!!!

All of the teams you post are horrible.

What are you talking about AB only mods this fourm. Plus it's not your choice to say who should and who shouldn't be a mod keep your opinions to yourself. For the record though AB is an wonderful mod.

Oh I just noticed something...AB you and I have not had a serious battle. We have only CC'd.

M£A†¥
April 22nd, 2006, 03:48 AM
All of the teams you post are horrible.

What are you talking about AB only mods this fourm. Plus it's not your choice to say who should and who shouldn't be a mod keep your opinions to yourself. For the record though AB is an wonderful mod.

Oh I just noticed something...AB you and I have not had a serious battle. We have only CC'd.

WHERE THE HECK DID YOU CAME FROM? You teams suck as well! You use the most crappest,......

Mullet
April 22nd, 2006, 03:54 AM
WHERE THE HECK DID YOU CAME FROM? You teams suck as well! You use the most crappest,......

My parent's iirc.

Can you logicly prove my teams suck?

betterthanmybrothercon
April 22nd, 2006, 04:30 AM
Meaty, don't attempt to argue with that adm1n, aragornbird, he has his opinion on pokemon and will do all attempts to make the world battle like him. he has been following me around posting and saying stuff about my attacks to everyone i posted to. Annoying as spikes. rapid spin isn't neccasary, considering you don't have to defend against spikes in almost 94% of the pokemon battles. You, calmind, you choose who's moveset u want, and you don't have to use anymoveset u don't want. if you don't like mine, don't choose it. there is no need to critic my moveset just because i think hyper beam when used my no n00bs is effective and more important than rapid spin.
Now back to calmind. The reason i suggested raichu is because you need that type of pokemon. it just adds on to the team, fits perfectly. Aragornbird, if you don't wanna see me post movesets fine, stop posting where i post. There are more to post to.


That is probally why my brother got banned! I think you should use a cute pokemon, all those are ugly except for snorlax! You need a grass pokemon, like venasaur!

aragornbird
April 22nd, 2006, 04:57 AM
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All right, Tory, you just got warned for flaming.

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M£A†¥
April 22nd, 2006, 05:13 AM
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All right, Tory, you just got warned for flaming.

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Shut up and stop freaking blaming me for everything! Mullet the one started this crap! Aragonbird, you alway piss me off! I didn't even flame! You'll want a flame war from me?

I'm not going to take no crap any more I'm going to start cursing at you'll very harshfuly! The reason why you never warn Mullet is because he is you friend! I HATE! You are the freaking, worst moderator ever!

I AM NO KIDDING. I REALY PISS OFF at you mindless people!

betterthanmybrothercon
April 22nd, 2006, 05:41 AM
Shut up and stop freaking blaming me for everything! Mullet the one started this crap! Aragonbird, you alway piss me off! I didn't even flame! You'll want a flame war from me?

I'm not going to take no **** any more I'm going to start cursing at you'll very harshfuly! The reason why you never warn Mullet is because he is you friend! I HATE! You are the freaking, worst moderator ever!

I AM NO KIDDING. I REALY PISS OFF at you mindless people!

wow, you are mean. what does that have to do with anything? my brother has an odd taste in friends. i apologize for him, aragornbird, he is a little mean to you and you are just doing your job. I think the other guy said what he said too, so they both are gonna be warned.

Ice demon
April 22nd, 2006, 05:51 AM
Shut up and stop freaking blaming me for everything! Mullet the one started this crap! Aragonbird, you alway piss me off! I didn't even flame! You'll want a flame war from me?

I'm not going to take no crap any more I'm going to start cursing at you'll very harshfuly! The reason why you never warn Mullet is because he is you friend! I HATE! You are the freaking, worst moderator ever!

I AM NO KIDDING. I REALY PISS OFF at you mindless people!


=O you have the WORST grammar ever.

I HATE!

lol.I'm sure.

betterthanmybrothercon
April 22nd, 2006, 05:53 AM
=O you have the WORST grammar ever.



lol.I'm sure.

don't start a flame war! you should post about the topic. |reports you all|

M£A†¥
April 22nd, 2006, 05:54 AM
Meaty, don't attempt to argue with that adm1n, aragornbird, he has his opinion on pokemon and will do all attempts to make the world battle like him. he has been following me around posting and saying stuff about my attacks to everyone i posted to. Annoying as spikes. rapid spin isn't neccasary, considering you don't have to defend against spikes in almost 94% of the pokemon battles. You, calmind, you choose who's moveset u want, and you don't have to use anymoveset u don't want. if you don't like mine, don't choose it. there is no need to critic my moveset just because i think hyper beam when used my no n00bs is effective and more important than rapid spin.
Now back to calmind. The reason i suggested raichu is because you need that type of pokemon. it just adds on to the team, fits perfectly. Aragornbird, if you don't wanna see me post movesets fine, stop posting where i post. There are more to post to.
If someone is making fun of me? What the heck I'm suppost to do? I realy want to use profanity! No one, I mean no one mess with Tory!

betterthanmybrothercon
April 22nd, 2006, 05:57 AM
that is my brothers post. you should calm down and leave him out of it. you should get another warning, along with ice demon, and although he is an admin, aragornbird also. you need to start pm'ing echother.

M£A†¥
April 22nd, 2006, 06:01 AM
=O you have the WORST grammar ever.



lol.I'm sure.
To learn you grammar go to Dictionary.com (http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/redir?src=websearch&requestId=558759239e1360dc&clickedItemRank=1&userQuery=dictionary&clickedItemURN=http%3A%2F%2Fdictionary.reference.com%2F&title=Dictionary.com&clickedItemPageRanking=1&clickedItemPage=1) and come back when your ready!

betterthanmybrothercon
April 22nd, 2006, 06:04 AM
To learn you grammar go to Dictionary.com (http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/redir?src=websearch&requestId=558759239e1360dc&clickedItemRank=1&userQuery=dictionary&clickedItemURN=http%3A%2F%2Fdictionary.reference.com%2F&title=Dictionary.com&clickedItemPageRanking=1&clickedItemPage=1) and come back when your ready!

|reports again|
you should post about the topic, spammer.

Kylie-chan
April 22nd, 2006, 06:10 AM
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I'm really very sorry to the owner of this thread; please re-post your team if you wish. I am simply closing this thread because it has been hijacked with this arguments.

Tory, let me start with you, seeing as you apparently began the heated posting. You are being warned for flaming and offtopicness. You have been told time and time again. You were even warned hours ago for it - and you continued!!! Because you will not stop, as you have been warned so many times for repeated offences, I am permanently banning you. People who break our rule on disrespect to other members constantly are not welcome at PC.

Ice_demon, a warning for you, too - you're not free of blame here. Your post quoting Tory had NOTHING to do with it - you just provoked the fight along even more with unnecessary comments. I'm sure you know better - and you certainly do now, so act like it.

Betterthanmybrothercon, firstly, mini-modding is annoying - staff are the one who dish out the warnings, not you. By saying that other people should get a warning publicly, you are merely causing the fight to continue, and joining in where no one should be in it. By making it your business, you put yourself at risk of flaming. @_@; Also, your comments on "odd taste in friends" and such were also uncalled for. But you were not the main offender here, so just think about that.

Oh, and Mullet, you are treading on extremely thin ice. One more comment such as "All the teams you post are HORRIBLE" and you will be warned - comments such as that start flame wars, as you may have noticed.

+CLOSED+


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