Pokemon Online mmorpg

[xMeteorxStriker]

Quality over quantity my friends!

[whitesprite]

Why would I spam look at my post count this is the only topic I have ever posted in. But you now admit you are using the source to Elysium Engine correct?


Do I have to spell it out to you... WE ARE USING PARTS OF MANY ENGINES,YOU WILL SEE JUST HOW MANY WHEN YOU ACTUALLY BOTHER TO VIEW THE CREDITS

Yeah, lots of haters of this game. Anyway, if you need a forum to host your game progress on, the link is in my sig. I was going to mention this a while ago, but I kinda forgot.

That'll be good... maybe as we get further on in the game and need some publicity...

Not only has he played a game with the engine before he is using it. And here is how I know why. He uses VB6 for it and the source only works in VB6, second off I know it didn't come from mirage becuase how would the gui, weather features and all that be the same.

1: How did you figure that... many programs (including Mirage Elysium and DBugged) use VB6...
2: How do you know how the original GUI looked... we never showed you
3: How do you know how weather works in Pkmn TOA????????? Not as gay as Elysiums ones, I can tell you that now, that stuff is WAY sub-standard for a pokemon game, maybe some gay home-brew game, tossed together by some geek.... but NOT good enough for Pokemon.

Hey blacksprite, I thought of a new idea for a trainer. Skaters. I made a sprite.
Good, if blacksprite likes them, we might add them to the character set... thats if you will allow us to (you will get your screen name in the credits)

FAQ - stop PMing me with these questions...

How far through the game are you? - Check Blacksprite's sig... should be on page 10
When is release? - I dont know... long time yet though...
Do you have any more screenies? - no, all work is being done on coding currently
Can I be a tester? - no, we are not looking for testers currently
Can I be a Mod when the game is released? - No, if you ask this you will NOT become a Moderator when we release the game
You are cool/you rock : not really a question... but yeah - thank you

[Lipega]

w8... it looks like PW (Players World) if you can make a battle system in PW you are trule freks on moding xD

[The Dash]

Ok can we like...Stop going on about what engine its built on please?
Its getting very boring hearing "Player Worlds this" and "Esylum that".

[Blacksprite]

Ok can we like...Stop going on about what engine its built on please?
Its getting very boring hearing "Player Worlds this" and "Esylum that".
i second that motion

what is becoming of this game
im not sure i fully understand this question (sorry) i'll try to answer it the best i can
well its an mmorpg made by a group of people who all remember and love the original series back in the good old days
we are commited to finishing this game (evidence on my report card lol)
this gaem will include all the old towns and new towns never before seen in the original game
heaps of features
diffrent paths you can take
like you dont have to be a trainer
you could own a fleet of ships and transport people to other places
its really up to you
Mission
to provide leading quality game play which can be viewed on any computer on any internet connection speed
Vision
to create a fully fuctional game fore everyone to play at any age and ejoy the world of pokemon

we really like this game
im excited :)

this game hopefully will be fun and bring back many memories of the past.

wel the last few days have been pretty busy with my birthday and heaps of hockey training/ coaching
but were still working on the game as much as possible
i will keep you posted here. unless we make our own forum but im borderline happy here
but its a great community and i will definitly mention this website on our main page

[whitesprite]

w8... it looks like PW (Players World) if you can make a battle system in PW you are trule freks on moding xD

wait... this comes from someone who has supposibly made a browser based Flash version...LMAO

PW, Elysium, Mirage... try sticking it all together and then youll at least be a little bit closer to PKMN TOA...

note: that motion of "never talking about engines again" has just been passed, so I will insult you like hell if you talk about engines in this thread 1 more time, we've talked about that for like 1/2 of this thread and now everyone is just telling us the same stuff weve heard like 5 times already and it is p*ssing me off...

and blacksprite, if your still online... what about those characters Don Patch posted... PM me

[Blacksprite]

wait... this comes from someone who has supposibly made a browser based Flash version...LMAO

PW, Elysium, Mirage... try sticking it all together and then youll at least be a little bit closer to PKMN TOA...

note: that motion of "never talking about engines again" has just been passed, so I will insult you like hell if you talk about engines in this thread 1 more time, we've talked about that for like 1/2 of this thread and now everyone is just telling us the same stuff weve heard like 5 times already and it is p*ssing me off...

and blacksprite, if your still online... what about those characters Don Patch posted... PM me

hmm whatsp that thing you quoted i think that he was compelementing us

mark dont insult anyone please (were the mature ones)
About thosse sprites don posted, whitesp just finish inputting the 700 first

[Avatar]

To everyone who've spammed in this thread (you know who you are). Please stop, and get back to the topic.

Whether or not this game is based on Playerworlds, Elysium or whatever else engine it might be based on is irrelevant at the moment.

sfu myth buster you got 5 post so stfu you havent been here long!
Your attitude will not be tolerated here.
Judging a member based solely on his/her postcount will not get you anywhere, and it is something only a noob would do.

note: that motion of "never talking about engines again" has just been passed, so I will insult you like hell if you talk about engines in this thread 1 more time, we've talked about that for like 1/2 of this thread and now everyone is just telling us the same stuff weve heard like 5 times already and it is p*ssing me off...
You will not insult anyone. You will proceed to read the rules right now.
It is against the rules to insult other members.

[xMeteorxStriker]

I have an idea let people be like Rocket Members!

[whitesprite]

hmm whatsp that thing you quoted i think that he was compelementing us
sorry, I had just had a physiotheripic massage, the disk (the one that I slipped @ work(Blacksprite knows)) while back where it should be, is F***ING painful (when having a back massage) so when I got home I was so frustrated I LMAO'd the first thing I saw, a copy of this game but in flash...and its creator...

Although the disk is back where it should be, if I get a decent punch in my back, I could be in a wheelchair for the rest of my life cos it hasnt "attached" to the bone and could move over and crush the nerve...

well, soz lipega, I had to vent my anger and hate on sum1 and your complement was right there... waiting

You will not insult anyone. You will proceed to read the rules right now. It is against the rules to insult other members.

Well if I'd known that, I'd have stopped this (EDIT: read the bottom lines, Avatar)
YOU ARE AN IDIOT.
and you are an idiot
you,Sir are an idiot
and finally to Myth_Buster... p*** off we dont need your idiotic accusing mind in this discussion
or isnt "idiot" classed as an insult?, so much to do, so little time. OH SH*T IS THAT THE TIME... Oh well, no time to read the rules today...........

[Blacksprite]

I have an idea let people be like Rocket Members!
this has been mentioned in past posts

[xMeteorxStriker]

O sorry well as soon as i find some more trainer sprites ill edit some up for yah!

[Blacksprite]

O sorry well as soon as i find some more trainer sprites ill edit some up for yah!

we thank you very much for you contribution and helpfullness
we will always look at new srites anyone wants put in the game

[jtc11]

Okay, here is the updated sprite.

*image removed because i can't include urls before 15 posts or some bs*

That is cool and all, but shouldn't the character be looking in the direction he is moving? It looks awkward the the way he is always starting 90 degrees from the direction he should be going... Also, you should try to animate it... that is, do something other than have a bunch of the exact same stance.

But so far that is kinda cool. I can't see them using it though unless they decide to offer a skateboard alternative to the "bike"...

[whitesprite]

Just want your opinion: Would you like the same done for the bike as for the rods; 3 bike classes, Old, Good, Super. Each with its own speed, price and restrictions... i.e: old bike is slower than the original bike for GBA (but faster than running), costs considerably less and cant jump over ledges (not necessarily the last one) and super bike is faster than the original bike, costs more than the good bike (not 1000000 yen) but can go pretty much anywhere (except indoors)? Just wanna know before I ask blacksprite... not that he wont see this anyway

That is cool and all, but shouldn't the character be looking in the direction he is moving? It looks awkward the the way he is always starting 90 degrees from the direction he should be going...

Wow! I just realised that... we will only input them if we decide that there is not enough diversity in characters, the skater probably wont go very much (if any) faster than a normal person and the skateboard will NOT replace the bike as the bike is well known as the form of transport in pokemon games.

[The Dash]

Include my sprites if you want :)
http://dasheo.com/images/DashCharaset.PNG

[djvolcom]

yah, you should do like NPC Guilds, like Team Rocket (which was explained above), Team Aqua, and so on.

OFF TOPIC: are you the blacksprite from the splamm elysium forums?

[whitesprite]

OFF TOPIC: are you the blacksprite from the splamm elysium forums?
nah, he noticed a lil while ago that ppl were stealing his name... hes only been on this forum I think... NOTING that I'm not a stalker and I dont watch him 24-7, thats just scary... so he might have, but then again, probably not

Include my sprites if you want
Thanks, we are always looking for new sprites, I've looked a bit closer and they seem ok(not insulting your skills). We will include these sprites only if we decide that there is not enough diversity in characters in the game. Also, you have a random Ash character in the set, do you have the complete set of Ash?

[xMeteorxStriker]

my hack has a pretty cool looking sprite in it ill make him into a sheet so u can see

EDIT: Here it is!
http://www.geocities.com/unseenidiot/Sprites.bmp

[Blacksprite]

thosse casual sprites are pretty cool
im serioisly thinking about useing them

offtopic: i swear i was the first blacksprie
if you google my name it comes up everywhere
but blacksprite is actually a way of making sprites i think its chiniese

but yup thats me thoose guys on there are really helpful

[djvolcom]

you cant own boats in pokemon, lol why add that??

[Tbone2356]

you cant own boats in pokemon, lol why add that??
Exactly Why He Will Add It, People Just Dont Want A Pokemon Game To Battle And Trade,
They Would Also Like Some Side Stories For The More Simulation Game Stylers.

[Gigerm]

i wanta the beta me love the idea of this game i cant wait! this is going to be bigger than netbattle

[Blacksprite]

we wanted to add something more to the pokemon games bring something diffrent
or it wont be fun it'll be just like pokemon nothing diffrent new to explore

[whitesprite]

--- Sprites implimented in to game 70 or 10%

update that to 98 or 14%,
wow i forgot how to do that... had to check my maths notebook, unsurpisingly it was empty... hope thats the right percentage, I just shoved a lot of equations together and my graphics calculator spat that out... so blacksprite, get geo logic to check that and update your sig

the reason it is only up 28 characters since the last update is because I am very lazy and I stopped ever since I did 70, hope there is another update 2morrow, I'm trying to get them done, but the PS2 is just sitting there, not being played and enjoyed... and you probably know the rest, it happens with homework all the time...

[xMeteorxStriker]

yah hes the main character in my hack he he u can usem u dont have to give credit or anything unless u want to (only this game can use them anyone else i will report thee)

EDIT:(you werent even talking to me where u lol)

[richtee]

this is such an awesome game! it has to be Pokemon connected, it sounds most original. I like your screenshots, but do you only play as the boy or are there other characters included and able to choose from?

[whitesprite]

this is such an awesome game! it has to be Pokemon connected, it sounds most original.

Hey thanks, we like the game too, now that the game is started, I cant wait to play!

The name has been chosen, it is PokéMon: The Online Adventures or PokéMon TOA or PokéTOA (whichever you want to use)

BEFORE ANYONE SAYS ANYTHING
We know that PokéMon Connected won in the poll, but they dont call it an opinion poll for nothing, it is your opinion, not binding us to keep the name you (the voters) choose.

I like your screenshots, but do you only play as the boy or are there other characters included and able to choose from?

Yes you can choose from many other characters (700 approx.). You can be male/female and also there are some other options which I'm not gonna tell you till release.

EDIT: Blacksprite, there is a problem with character set 23, please advise

[Blacksprite]

EDIT: Blacksprite, there is a problem with character set 23, please advise

oh I see,
we'll add thosse to the npc's instead of the pc's so skip it for now (also skip 25)
we'll add it later

[H3LlK1Ll3r]

And Will you release the server file's or keep them for your self? =D

[Demonta]

Great looking thingymajig! I love the look... You better release it!!! *looks at you as if you have done something wrong* !!! =)

[xMeteorxStriker]

no offense but i think pokemontoa sounds ridiculous and makes it sound childish

[whitesprite]

oh I see,
we'll add thosse to the npc's instead of the pc's so skip it for now (also skip 25)
we'll add it later

Yeah also 26 as there is no complete set...

And Will you release the server file's or keep them for your self? =D

sorry, that could mean many things, I'll try to answer it...

Yes anyone who will download the client can play
No we will not release the source code
No we will keep the server application on our server
Hope that answered it, If not... blacksprite will

Great looking thingymajig! I love the look... You better release it!!! *looks at you as if you have done something wrong* !!! =)

Hey, we like the look of our thingymajig too!
I want this game released as much as you and the many others on this forum.

Finally, Character Set Update: 147/700 or 21%, I think... I dont know what pi and tan have to do with percentages, but it told me something closeish to what it should be, didnt it?????

[The Dash]

no offense but i think pokemontoa sounds ridiculous and makes it sound childish

I agree. Sounds like those weird Lego dudes.

[Demonta]

But still, I would Loooooovve to play this game, do you need any programs to play it, or is it just double click and off we goooo!

[Blacksprite]

But still, I would Loooooovve to play this game, do you need any programs to play it, or is it just double click and off we goooo!

thats all you need is the client. the installer will take care of the rest

pokemontoa sounds childish?
i thought pokemon would have done that by itself :)
17 yr olds playing pokemon no never not childish at all :p

will we realse the server files
why? it would be no use to you unless you had the source code
and we are not about to release anything like that
it would mean people would be able to get around our security defenses
learn our security codes and learn how to purge the database
not to mention how to become an admin

I agree. Sounds like those weird Lego dudes.

oh yea *enlightenment*

well im sure you will still play the game. pokemon connected is to bland for me

[xMeteorxStriker]

lol i like it ha ha ha and apparantly everyone else does but its ur game and i will still play it(i have dial up do u think it will lag?)

[Garcia]

Sounds good man good luck with your game, I hope everything works out for you guys.

[H3LlK1Ll3r]

sorry, that could mean many things, I'll try to answer it...

Yes anyone who will download the client can play
No we will not release the source code
No we will keep the server application on our server
Hope that answered it, If not... blacksprite will
will we realse the server files
why? it would be no use to you unless you had the source code
and we are not about to release anything like that
it would mean people would be able to get around our security defenses
learn our security codes and learn how to purge the database
not to mention how to become an admin
Thank for the answer! then GOOD LUCK On your game!

[MistTribe]

This game is so awesome. But can people a 56K modem play it?

[jahmmon]

I think so. The graphics are simple and good, therefore they can be accessed by 56k modem users(like me). Anyways good luck on the Pokemon TOA game!

O_o_O

[MistTribe]

Are you absolutly sure? I really love this game and can't wait to play it. But if it won't work on my 56k modem that'll suck.

[-:Buro-kun Tsubasa:-]

How close are you to finishing? I really wanna play this!

[MistTribe]

I think they're still getting the glitches and stuff out of it. They probably like 50% done or more. I can't wait for it to come out myself. :)

[whitesprite]

This game is so awesome. But can people a 56K modem play it?
Yes, it is extremely likely that it will (I can almost say it will) work, but as we have currently only tested the game with the client and server in the same town, which worked, I cant guarantee that it will work, but it should do...

I think so. The graphics are simple and good, therefore they can be accessed by 56k modem users(like me). Anyways good luck on the Pokemon TOA game!
Just wanna say, the graphics are stored on YOUR computer, so there should be no lag as only your location is sent between client and server while just walking around.

And so people know before they say anything, If you edit any graphics in the game file, your client will become unresponsive to the server...

How close are you to finishing? I really wanna play this!
We are approximately 44% through so almost half way... this is according to blacksprite's sig and may not be 100% correct.

OFFTOPIC: I thought everyone in the world should hear/see some maori today...

Personally Ma tana ka aha
To all those people who dont know any maori: He tino pai nanekoti au
And the one even the maori teacher at my school dont know: Upoko kohua!

Kia Ora, Poaka momona

LMAO

[Blacksprite]

first wft whitesp
i have more maori then you
al white said all grpahics and basically the entire game is stored on your computer so you will experience no lag on your end
however there may be a delay in updating the locations of otheres around you
this will not effect your movement as you move sepratly to everyone else

can be accessed by 56k modem users(like me)
this was one goal that we still hope to hold true to
the problem being as it may be difficult to download?

[The Dash]

Are you absolutly sure? I really love this game and can't wait to play it. But if it won't work on my 56k modem that'll suck.

I dont see why not,
Back when I was on 56k I played Star Wars Galaxies with very little lag. So i doubt that this game will cause lag :)

[Blacksprite]

I dont see why not,
Back when I was on 56k I played Star Wars Galaxies with very little lag. So i doubt that this game will cause lag :)

indeed there shouldn't be any lagg all the work is being done on your computer the server is alot smaller compared to the client

[Backmaster]

OMG...
That´s a very big discussion...
But can you tell me is the game finished or is their a Demo???

[Blacksprite]

u may want to read at least the first post}
no this game is still in development
but hopefully as soon as possiable we will have something to satisfy all your pokemanic needs

Well night all i will talk to you all tomorrow afternoon (gmt+12)
untill then

quick update
ive finished my work for now on the server and i am focusing my attention to the client

[whitesprite]

first wft whitesp i have more maori then you
Yes I no you are more maori than me, considering a Kenyan and an White NZer dont exactly make a Maori...

Anyways, I fealt very maori after working wit em for 4 hours, so I thought everyone should enjoy the amazing thing which is maori...

NOW I'm gonna put myself back on topic...

But can you tell me is the game finished or is their a Demo???
We have completed just over 44% of the game, still a lot to do though... so no, the game is not finished, also blacksprite mentioned earlier that MMOs dont normally get released till they are almost nearly finished...

the problem being as it may be difficult to download?
We could sell CDs to those 56K users (such as me) who dont want to wait for the 80 or so megabytes to download... like NZD$2-5... help with funding the website.

[Anarchy]

Isn't selling this a blatant copyright violation, sort of like bootleg toys? I mean, I'm sure that it's going to be a great game, but the whole plot concept and graphics are legally dubious.

[Gigerm]

in this game can you make your own character like chage the colors and skin tone?

[Blacksprite]

in this game can you make your own character like chage the colors and skin tone?
Colours, you can change, skin tone, not presently

Isn't selling this a blatant copyright violation, sort of like bootleg toys? I mean, I'm sure that it's going to be a great game, but the whole plot concept and graphics are legally dubious.
It is legal if there is a free version available to download and the cost is only covering the CD, that's how you see OpenOffice.org in stores

[Blaziken_Boy]

If any more slots are open,I'll take one for Beta Tester!I also have jillions of ideas,it's just I have to take them out of my boiing water pot of my mind and let them dry for a bit.

I have an idea! New reigons,a boat making system in a way,like you can buy or find things like boards and beds and windows and huge curtains to make a boat,so they could crash,and you can be stranded.Then you could make a new one!

[pokejungle]

_Please_ don't double post. Hit the "Edit" button to add more to your post.

How many BETA testers are you employing right now, if any? I'm interested in the progress of the game.

[Anarchy]

It is legal if there is a free version available to download and the cost is only covering the CD, that's how you see OpenOffice.org in stores

Those Pokemon designs aren't just usable in any product. If I sold really popular fake Pokemon toys that were very close to the originals, I'd get sued to death. There are trademark issues with marketing a product under the Pokemon brand, too, especially when you're in the same space (video games). None of these other ROM hacks and custom games are for sale.

[Blacksprite]

If any more slots are open,I'll take one for Beta Tester!I also have jillions of ideas,it's just I have to take them out of my boiing water pot of my mind and let them dry for a bit.

Sorry we arent looking for Beta testers currently, we may notify you when we release a version for Beta testing though, Also we would love to hear all your ideas as we probably havent thought of every cool feature you can come up with

Those Pokemon designs aren't just usable in any product. If I sold really popular fake Pokemon toys that were very close to the originals, I'd get sued to death.

we wouldnt be selling the game, we would be selling you time... time you could be doing other things rather than downloading a free game, the same as openoffice. This is legal, Whitesprite has done research

There are trademark issues with marketing a product under the Pokemon brand, too, especially when you're in the same space (video games). None of these other ROM hacks and custom games are for sale.
We didn't say THE GAME was for sale did we, just the CD with the game on it.
It is only illegal to do this if you buy a CD, copy it 20 times and sell it to earn your money back, this is because the people you sell it to wont buy the program from the company, in this case Nintendo wont earn a cent anyways, so they arent loosing, which is the reason the law is in place...

and coming back to
Isn't selling this a blatant copyright violation, sort of like bootleg toys? I mean, I'm sure that it's going to be a great game, but the whole plot concept and graphics are legally dubious.
We havent stolen their plot concept, MMOs dont have a plot other than Pokemon trainer, goes to gyms to get badges, goes to pokemon league. But the user doesnt even have to follow that plot, they can be many things from a farmer to a captain of a ship...

I have an idea! New reigons,a boat making system in a way,like you can buy or find things like boards and beds and windows and huge curtains to make a boat,so they could crash,and you can be stranded.Then you could make a new one!

Sorry, if you crashed in the middle of the ocean, and you didnt have a pokemon who knew surf... then you would die and that would ruin the game... you can build a boat, but not as complex as what you described, and you cant crash.
And no sorry, we havent built any more regions yet, we are only making the one region first.

[whitesprite]

EDIT: Message Removed because I dont want to ruin the game hype

[Blacksprite]

Post no longer needed
please disregaurd

[Blaziken_Boy]

Anyway,it would be like if you crash,there are lifeboats that go slower (they must be rowed) and about the reigon,can you add more islands to it? I'd hate using a boat only to get to an island to catch pokemon or fight a Gym Leader.
Anyway,new idea. You could trade pokemon and sell eggs,the rarer,the better stuff you get. Example:
Blaziken-Swampert,Sceptile,Charizard,Typhlosion,Meganium,Venasaur (or Ivysaur,whatever the 3rd evolution is),Blastoise and totodile's 3rd evolution.
In short,if you trade a Blaziken,you can get any other 3rd evolution of a pokemon that is Starter.Eggs willl just get you big bucks.

By the way,if my ideas are too hard to implement ito the game,just tell me.

[TheAbsol]

I might be able to help with some of the c++ programming

[Anarchy]

Really? I would think that you would be taking sales away from Nintendo, with their Wii online service and D/P. This whole "selling time" is BS. Why are you selling time instead of the game? Is Nintendo selling you time when you buy a GameCube?

[Gigerm]

any website we can go on to check the progress?

[whitesprite]

Anyway,it would be like if you crash,there are lifeboats that go slower (they must be rowed)
if you have to buy or find parts of a boat to make one, if you cant find/ dont have enough money to buy a lifeboat, then you are stuffed if you crash...
and about the reigon,can you add more islands to it? I'd hate using a boat only to get to an island to catch pokemon or fight a Gym Leader.
We may think of it, but in the originals, you just surfed to get to islands to fight gym leaders... we dont want to abolish surf, but to make more story plots to follow, such as a shipping company, you dont buy a boat just to go to islands (you can) but you can earn money off it...
Anyway,new idea. You could trade pokemon and sell eggs,the rarer,the better stuff you get. Example:
Blaziken-Swampert,Sceptile,Charizard,Typhlosion,Meganium,Ve nasaur (or Ivysaur,whatever the 3rd evolution is),Blastoise and totodile's 3rd evolution.
In short,if you trade a Blaziken,you can get any other 3rd evolution of a pokemon that is Starter.Eggs willl just get you big bucks.
By the way,if my ideas are too hard to implement ito the game,just tell me.

First, you can trade pokemon, but you can only negotiate to other players, if you trade with an NPC (I dont know that you can do this) you will get what they give you...

Also, again you can only sell eggs at a negotiated price to other players, to NPCs, only what they give you...

Both of the above sentences include Pokemarts and other stores as NPCs

I might be able to help with some of the c++ programming
Great, if Blacksprite needs you, welcome to the team...

This whole "selling time" is BS.

Selling time is BS eh? well if you buy the CD, you arent sitting in front of your computer, instead you have time to do other things, thats what mature people call "selling time", and people do it, you can pay someone to download programs for you computer (freeware only) and they will put it on a CD and charge you accordingly...

Why are you selling time instead of the game?
Because we can't (legally) sell the game, you've already covered that well enough in previous posts.

Is Nintendo selling you time when you buy a GameCube?
No, you cant sit and wait for hours and then magically a GameCube will appear (trust me, I've tried this...LOL) they are doing the same thing Sony and Microsoft are doing when they sell you a PS2 or Xbox/X360, they are selling you a gaming console, something you cant sit and wait for to get for free. (Honestly, peoples logic these days...)

any website we can go on to check the progress?
No sorry, not currently. We are currently trying to find approx $10 to get a domain name, so until then, Blacksprites sig shows our progress.

EDIT: I just did the quiz in Blaziken_Boys sig and i'm supposidly a http://www.vilhjalmur.com/butterfree/yascyther.jpg (http://www.dragonflycave.com/wpay.aspx)

[Blacksprite]

well anarchy you dont have to play the game
it was just an idea, and i think ive said it twice now you have made you point so stop posting about this
any website we can go on to check the progress?
soon

By the way,if my ideas are too hard to implement ito the game,just tell me.

hey juyst lets wait until we have the basics done and going
we'll add stuff in later

[Tbone2356]

So Im Guessing If You Have Eggs There Will Be Egg Groups?

Is There Another Way To Acess The PC To Store Things And Withdraw Them Because With All Of The People Going To Play It Will Get Really Crowded At The Pokecenter.....

If You Dont Have That And Only 1 PC, The Trainers Pokegear Could Have Like A PC Wireless Connection That Only When In A Pokecenter Can Be Used To Go On The PC If Someone Is Using The Real Thing.

Whats Going To Be Upstairs In The Pokecenter??

[whitesprite]

So Im Guessing If You Have Eggs There Will Be Egg Groups?
Is There Another Way To Acess The PC To Store Things And Withdraw Them Because With All Of The People Going To Play It Will Get Really Crowded At The Pokecenter.....
If You Dont Have That And Only 1 PC, The Trainers Pokegear Could Have Like A PC Wireless Connection That Only When In A Pokecenter Can Be Used To Go On The PC If Someone Is Using The Real Thing.

Yes, we have a very large pokemon centre with many PCs

Whats Going To Be Upstairs In The Pokecenter??

wait and see is all I can say... and no it wont be anything like the GBA upstairs

[djvolcom]

PVP ARENA!! that be awesome, hah

[Blacksprite]

you guys are still thinoing way too single player
we have thought about croading in heaps of areas
and all this
PVP area well you can do thatin the normal world

[The Dash]

You could always use entitys (however you spell it),
that way if a map got full another "Instance" of that map would be created..
Not sure if you know what im getting at..

[MistTribe]

Awesmoe game. I got DSL just so I could play this game when its done. I didnt know if a 56k modem would work or not, so wireless DSL ahoy!

[Chizzy]

Can't wait for this to get completed! Is there going to be the chance to open up your own Gym? or to choose what city you start in? Each City could have its own starters...

[serpenter]

wount it be a little unfair f an expirenced trainer battled an un-experienced trainer?

[whitesprite]

You could always use entitys (however you spell it),
that way if a map got full another "Instance" of that map would be created..
Not sure if you know what im getting at..
Yep, both Blacksprite & I have talked about this to Geo Logic... we are still thinking how to get the bugs out of it though, i.e: You PM someone "meet me in viridian city" you both go to viridian city and both people are in "different" viridian cities

Can't wait for this to get completed! Is there going to be the chance to open up your own Gym?
Yes, well sorta. If youve been on Habbo, basically the same thing, you can buy an apartment or warehouse and decorate it as a gym, battle people for prizes or moneys...

or to choose what city you start in? Each City could have its own starters...
No sorry, our plot wont allow that, for those who dont know, here is the story:
Set a few years after ash's sucsess, now the whole world wants a piece of the action and the place to be is..
Pallet town is now the place for all young trainers to begin their pokemon journey with professor oak and his aides leading your way with 28 diffrent pokemon starters and 150 pokemon to catch, train, breed, farm and travel with you from the peak of mount moon's retreat to your own private boat at sea level.

wount it be a little unfair f an expirenced trainer battled an un-experienced trainer?
weve already thought of this, pokemon trainers are rated with levels (lv1, lv2 etc.), you can only battle anyone within 2 levels of yourself, making it sorta more fair if someone beats all the gyms and then sits in route 1 waiting for innocent newbies to come along...
[the above paragraph was extremely long, i cut it down to the basics of the system or else it would take up a page of the thread just by itself]

[Blacksprite]

well what whitesp said isn't entirely acurate
but 56k users would still be able to play just as well

[MasterArbitor]

wow your game sounds cool

[The Dash]

Yep, both Blacksprite & I have talked about this to Geo Logic... we are still thinking how to get the bugs out of it though, i.e: You PM someone "meet me in viridian city" you both go to viridian city and both people are in "different" viridian cities

Well, When you're in a instance of a city perhaps you could like..Choose between instances?

[BlackWolf]

With experienced trainers battling newbie trainers couldnt you have it to where they both have to accept if a battle is to commence,so like a message appears saying DO you wish to battle so and so yes or no. And so you know who your fighting you possibly could see there level above there head or something...

[whitesprite]

well what whitesp said isn't entirely acurate
what did I say thats not correct?
wow your game sounds cool
Thanks, we like it too...
Well, When you're in a instance of a city perhaps you could like..Choose between instances?
But then, if everyone chose the same instance, that would defeat the purpose of having more than one instance of the map...
With experienced trainers battling newbie trainers couldnt you have it to where they both have to accept if a battle is to commence,so like a message appears saying DO you wish to battle so and so yes or no. And so you know who your fighting you possibly could see there level above there head or something...
We have already implemented something similar to this. We have something called a "verse seeker" (already used in previous pokemon versions, I know, but not the same), this has 2 settings, red (you are requested if you want a battle) and green (if challenged, battle automatically begins), this and the level limitations will both exist.

[djvolcom]

i wanna sign up for alpha testing.. if there is a close alpha test

[whitesprite]

i wanna sign up for alpha testing.. if there is a close alpha test
Sorry we are not requesting any alpha testers currently, I/we will PM you if a spot on the testing team becomes available, thank you for your interest in testing PkmnTOA

also; at skool, there has been a great interest in this game with the year 12s (16yrs old), amazing, considering I thought Pokemon was for (no offence) little kids and blacksprite, geo logic, statnio and me were some of the very few of this age which liked the pokemon games, obviously the original storyline brought the "old fans" back to Pokemon...

[Blacksprite]

Sorry we are not requesting any alpha testers currently, I/we will PM you if a spot on the testing team becomes available, thank you for your interest in testing PkmnTOA

also; at skool, there has been a great interest in this game with the year 12s (16yrs old), amazing, considering I thought Pokemon was for (no offence) little kids and blacksprite, geo logic, statnio and me were some of the very few of this age which liked the pokemon games, obviously the original storyline brought the "old fans" back to Pokemon...
so true!


I'm working a bit more on the game sorting out bugs etc. keep you posted as i go

[jtc11]

whitesprite, I notice your sig states that you game is 44% done. That is great!

I think you guys should edit the original topic post to include information on what is currently completed etc (for any new readers that wanna see what it's about). It kinda sucks panning through the many pages to find the important details that should be included at the very beginning of the thread.

[Blacksprite]

well i'll pann through the topics and add some more stuff in

[xMeteorxStriker]

i just did same on my sprite thread lol
blacksprite check it out and u can ask if u want to use anything for ur game and i will say yes lol (only blacksprite has this offer) just click the link on my sig if ur interested

[Charizard_guardian767]

it sounds great but how can I get it?

[xMeteorxStriker]

the game is not complete yet
its on blacksprites sig see
===Completion Status===
--- Codeing --- 36%
--- Feature plan --- 90%
--- Maps --- 10%
--- Graphics --- 60%
--- Battle system --- 26%
--- Story --- 65%
--- Sprites made -- 700+
-update-- Sprites implimented in to game 147 or 21%
=================

[Blacksprite]

it sounds great but how can I get it?

To play the game well shortly hopefully

to become a developer
whenever more like asap

[Charizard_guardian767]

and that mean what exactly??

[djvolcom]

just wait for the game to be releasesd :)

[The Dash]

Or try looking at the status in his signature T.T

[Shadowblazer]

44% done, nice work Blacksprite.

[Blacksprite]

44% done, nice work Blacksprite.
Well you know i do what i can.
i have a bit more time this week so i'll get loads done

[MasterArbitor]

will we have to pay or is it free?

[H3LlK1Ll3r]

will we have to pay or is it free?
Its Absolutely FREE!
======Total========
--- Average --- 44.14%
=================

NICE!
Good Work =D

[whitesprite]

Its Absolutely FREE!
Unless you are an extremely nice person who has a credit card and clicks the donate button on our website :) lol

======Total========
--- Average --- 44.14%
=================
better update my sig... not that I needed to post that... :)

EDIT: 99 votes in the poll, does that mean that there is at least 99 people wanting to play or have some people created new users to let their name win? :)

for some reason I am very happy :) today... not that I needed to post that either... lol

[Razer302]

i cant wait for this it will be great the one i play at the minute is boring but still ok.
anyone want to no about it pm me.but only play till this gets finished

[Kasumi_chan]

It sounds really awesome!! ( and that's good coming from someone as picky as me ) I really look forward to the game!

[Blacksprite]

im just finishing up a system of mine were you can click on players and it will display there battle trainer front picture, name, trainer id, how many badges they have. basically a smaller trainer card. you can also challenge them to battle.
i'll keep you posted

thanks for all the encouraging words
we hope to have somthing good like more screens for you soon

[whitesprite]

Hey, I know this is real far back in the thread, but:
I'd stick with the "paypal donate" idea
I have made a "PayPal Donate" button, found at http://www.freewebs.com/kayo/index.html

Sorry, blacksprite, I used your freewebs account (one of those problems when your friends know your username and password) also, I havent used the original PayPal account you used because I tried to call you for the username, but you were out... I will change it when I know the username...

but for those like jtc11 who would prefer to donate rather than click advertisements, please click the above link... then the paypal button...

OFF TOPIC: where the hell did statnio go? I just realised while wading through 9 pages of this thread that he dissapeared quite a while ago...

Also: Host Ultra just tried to upload a trojan onto my computer. Blacksprite, you should move the advertisment page to freewebs...

[jtc11]

but for those like jtc11 who would prefer to donate rather than click advertisements...
Aw, thanks! I was counting the days til you provided that for me ;)

I have a suggestion. I know that it may not be an appropriate time to add new screenshots, but a lot of what keeps a game's production going is the hype generated by its progress and exposure.

We keep hearing about all the different sprites and color-variations. We hear about the fully functional world interactions. We hear about the almost finished battle system. None of these things are displayed within the current screenshots.

Please share with us a glipse of progress...

[Blacksprite]

Aw, thanks! I was counting the days til you provided that for me ;)

I have a suggestion. I know that it may not be an appropriate time to add new screenshots, but a lot of what keeps a game's production going is the hype generated by its progress and exposure.

We keep hearing about all the different sprites and color-variations. We hear about the fully functional world interactions. We hear about the almost finished battle system. None of these things are displayed within the current screenshots.

Please share with us a glipse of progress...

well yea this is mainly due to various unfinished parts
i like to only show stuff when its completed
for example i have done all the coding behind it but it just doesn't look very good on the user side, ie the graphical user interface



Also: Host Ultra just tried to upload a trojan onto my computer. Blacksprite, you should move the advertisment page to freewebs...

are you sure it wasn't one of the popup adds of host ultra or host ultra itself either way i will look into this

also jct11
put it this way you'll get them when you get them

[whitesprite]

are you sure it wasn't one of the popup adds of host ultra or host ultra itself either way i will look into this

It wasnt host ultra's popups because it said "AVAST! has blocked a connection from [http://www.hostultra.com]. Although the connection to hostultra has been blocked, it is still possible for the trojan to enter your computer, to prevent this please click the close connection button below"

for all those who dont know, Avast! (it MUST have the "!" I am told) is a free virus protector/ monitored firewall...

and, I dont think Avast! is that well known that host ultra would copy it to create popups... also, why would closing the connection (closing my web browser and removing all of my cookies and cache containing host ultra) help host ultra anyway?

We keep hearing about all the different sprites and color-variations. We hear about the fully functional world interactions. We hear about the almost finished battle system. None of these things are displayed within the current screenshots.

My client is like FAR out of date, so there would be no point me making screenshots of anything other than the environment and a terroribly misaligned character (coding stuff up - all fixed in the current version of the client), still funny to laugh at...

And, this community has loads of games under production, if I uploaded any of my character setm someone would probably steal it, and as it is so close to the original, it would be impossible to copyright... not that we are gonna start up another discussion about copyrights and how we are breaking many...

Aw, thanks! I was counting the days til you provided that for me
You havent donated yet... :(

[jtc11]

You havent donated yet... :(
Has anyone?

Your fear of copies is understandable (after all, Nintendo has you to fear doing the same thing), but if someone is going to copy your characters or something, couldn't they still do it when you release the completed game?

I don't see how holding off with screenshots will prevent any potential copy-cats.

[whitesprite]

Has anyone?
no...:(
Your fear of copies is understandable (after all, Nintendo has you to fear doing the same thing), but if someone is going to copy your characters or something, couldn't they still do it when you release the completed game?
Yes they could, but it would be harder for them to do that than for them to steal it off of a character set I've uploaded...

I don't see how holding off with screenshots will prevent any potential copy-cats.
put it this way you'll get them when you get them
yes, dont rush us, we need to do other stuff (on and away from the game) and if/when we finish these things, you will see screenies...

also it isnt anything to do with preventing copy-cats, I only said that I wasnt releasing the character set to prevent copying, not screenies

[jtc11]

also it isnt anything to do with preventing copy-cats, I only said that I wasnt releasing the character set to prevent copying, not screenies
Oh, I'm sorry. I misunderstood since you said that right after I enquired about new screenshots. And again, to clarify, I didn't mean show us your character set images. I simply meant show us a few screens (ingame) showing different colored characters.

Take you time though. I don't need screenshots, nor does anyone else really. It was just a suggestion to show some progress. Since most of the progress seems to be back-end programming and not visual improvements to the engine, it is understandable that screenshots are not appearing in this thread.

So long as you guys are still working on the project, no one really has much right to complain or demand any particular results. Keep it up.

[Blacksprite]

belive me we are trying to keep you guys in the loop
it hard though as we arfe now finding our time very streched
dont worry though the game is still in development at full speed
and i will try to contact you guys here at PC as often as possible ie right now im on mobile 3g internet on a tablet
the things i go though to keep in contact with you guys

[whitesprite]

Hey guys, we now have an official forum for PokéMon TOA, link is in my sig...
Forum contains areas for you to post all of your wonderful ideas, and places to see where we are at in the game.

[The Dash]

Whoa so you actually used it? Blacksprite told me you wernt goign to but oh well lol. You need to remove the %22 thing at the end cause its broken otherwise.

[pokemon500]

i wish yall the best of luck other this mmorpg has been the best pokemon i seen so far and hopefully you guys can complete this I think alot of people would like that

[whitesprite]

Whoa so you actually used it? Blacksprite told me you wernt goign to but oh well lol.
wow... he told me the URL to it so I thought that he wanted to use it, oh well he has to now...

You need to remove the %22 thing at the end cause its broken otherwise
what the... when I tried to edit the link in the sig editor, it was normal... re-did it so now it works...

i wish yall the best of luck other this mmorpg has been the best pokemon i seen so far and hopefully you guys can complete this I think alot of people would like that
Thanks, I hope we can finish it too... also I hope I can pass NCEA level 2, LOL

Offtopic: NCEA=National Certificate of Educational Achievement, the thing that if you fail, your life is over... unless your ambition is to be a bum living off the dole... AND you have to do it 3 times... HARSH

[Angle-san]

I'm just popping by again to check up on you guys
The Progress is doing great guys have ppl donated to you guys yet?
if not give me two weeks and i'll donate

also i've joined your forum to keep update on this project
Keep up the great work ^^

[ShadowKP1]

Well I'm glad to see this MMORPG going according to your plan Blacksprite.

[bugmenot]

This looks like its being made in some form of the Kongfuze/Eclipse/Etc MMO makers :(

[Angle-san]

why have a sad face is that a bad thing?

[Blacksprite]

This looks like its being made in some form of the Kongfuze/Eclipse/Etc MMO makers :(
there not really makers

more like half finished games left only to put what graphics you want in
they dont leave alot of customisation

Any way still working out some bugs with our version of the trainer card thing

[neo_shadow750]

OMG OMG OMG!!

Play with other people!??!
I can't wait till june 12 =)
This can be the game of the year :)

[Blacksprite]

OMG OMG OMG!!

Play with other people!??!
I can't wait till june 12 =)
This can be the game of the year :)

should i even ask why you said june 12 :(

[Razer302]

are you going to add double battles and true double battle

[Intuition]

Sounds great, although I doubt it's almost half finished.. We didn't even get any kind of media proving it works.. apart from a few screens that is.

[The Dash]

Look at the status in Blacksprites sig...
It says 44.14% complete..

[tyranisneasel]

Hey this sounds awesome! When it's done, there isn't going to be any lack of players for it...

[Blacksprite]

Hey this sounds awesome! When it's done, there isn't going to be any lack of players for it...

i hope so

don't belive its nearly half done (I didn't say you had to)
but more work gos into this then just pointing and clicking like in the rpg maker series (great engines by the way)
alot of the stuff done is backround stuff
like making maps able to be saved open and read etc
making all the characters code
everthing its not anything a normal person would take into cosideration
we dont expect to have any "media" (not the word i would use but sure, but sure) for you to use
as ITS NOT FINISED

in reply to the double battles

yes we are
might have mentioned that before

[djvolcom]

hurry up with the testing!! i wanan try!

[The Dash]

Quit telling him to hurry up and who says you are even going to Beta test?

[whitesprite]

This looks like its being made in some form of the Kongfuze/Eclipse/Etc MMO makers
we've already had a discussion extremely close to this, read the entire 16 pages before posting things about engines, copyright issues, or even requesting things in the game.

Sounds great, although I doubt it's almost half finished.. We didn't even get any kind of media proving it works.. apart from a few screens that is.
what do you want;

Videos? My internet cant even upload a message on this forum without problems, photos imossible so videos, out of the question as I am the only one on the development team with the time to make such a video, I dont think it can happen...

Demos? READ PREVIOUS POSTS: MMOs dont normally get released till they are almost complete this includes demos, because half of the game IS coding, so either you get a demo that doesnt go because its only got graphics or you only get an engine (no graphics)...

OMG OMG OMG!!
Play with other people!??!
I can't wait till june 12 =)
This can be the game of the year
what do you mean by "I can't wait till june 12=)"?
We never stated a release date...

hurry up with the testing!! i wanan try!
Sorry, development has paused until sat 27 may, sun 28 may or mon 29 may
This is because all members of the development team (myself, blacksprite, geo logic, statnio) were all roped into doing the sound and lighting for the school play, "Twelfth Night" we hope to be back in action on saturday, but it may take until monday (hangover).

Also, dont rush us, we are making this game as quickly as we can, we can only work on the game some days/nights and most times only for a few hours.
You are also making pointless posts saying "hurry up, I want to play NOW", we cant make the game go any faster, so stop filling up this thread with posts like the above, this is not directed at djvolcom, but to everyone who has said "hurry up" to us.
Sorry djvolcom if you think this is directed at you, but please, all members promised to be on the testing team (we have enough for the time being and we/they know who they are), please wait for a PM from us to tell you when a test is scheduled.

[The Dash]

as I am the only one on the development team with the time to make such a video, I dont think it can happen...
I could always make it if you like? I love making such things :)

[Blacksprite]

hmm whats this about it being paused, whiesprite do not say things like that.
and what has the play gotm to do with the topic

[whitesprite]

hmm whats this about it being paused, whiesprite do not say things like that.
and what has the play gotm to do with the topic
the fact that neither of us has done ANYTHING on the game for the past week (since sunday) because of the play... is that reason good enough, what I was trying to say was that it was because of the play that we hadnt done anything (noting that you told me this so you cant deny it), basically it was -Wake up -Go to school -get home -go to to the theartre -(11:30) ILLEGALLY drive me & statnio home -(12:00) go to sleep knowing that tomorrow will be the same as today. -(NEXT DAY) Wake up -go to school -sleep during classes -go to theartre -(11:30) ILLEGALLY drive me & statnio home -(12:00) go to sleep knowing that tomorrow will be the same as today -get the picture? noting that that was blacksprites 2 days... not mine...

Well that is now OFFICIALLY over and production has already started, we now have 189 sprites inputted, note I havent updated my sig as I cant be bothered...

[Naas02]

you guys, please dont start arguin amongst eachother.....I saw it coming and I said it before, people do not understand what all goes into the coding end of the game thats because they dont have training, experience, or basic knowledge of that. All they know is they click on their gameboys and pokemon comes on, dont let it frustrate you because I can pretty much garuntee you'll get lots more "hurry up and finish it" post before the game is anywhere near finished, anyway sounds like you guys are progressing nicely dont "hurry" quality>time


p.s. do you guys have links to game mechanics sites? When get to where you need to build teams for NPC's look me up :)

[Blacksprite]

you guys, please dont start arguin amongst eachother.....I saw it coming and I said it before, people do not understand what all goes into the coding end of the game thats because they dont have training, experience, or basic knowledge of that. All they know is they click on their gameboys and pokemon comes on, dont let it frustrate you because I can pretty much garuntee you'll get lots more "hurry up and finish it" post before the game is anywhere near finished, anyway sounds like you guys are progressing nicely dont "hurry" quality>time


p.s. do you guys have links to game mechanics sites? When get to where you need to build teams for NPC's look me up :)

we have the mechanics sorted out, NPC's teams well later on

[Pkmn_knight]

any new screenshots?.............

[ShadowKP1]

What it says at your forum that a download date is June 12, 2006. I sthat the date we'll be able to play this game?

[theotherfreakyguy]

I hope! Just Imagine just getting out of school, and after less than a week we can play it! so awesome!

[Renagadez]

looks promising,I hope you guys get this game completed unlike most games in this forum.Good luck and take your time making it please dont rush it.

ps:ill be one of your first members

[whitesprite]

What it says at your forum that a download date is June 12, 2006. I sthat the date we'll be able to play this game?
Read the announcement properly:
Current Realease date (alpha version [battle system test].)
June 12 2006
Especially the boldened part... it means an alpha version will be circulated amongst a few/all of the alpha testers on June 12, not game release.

any new screenshots?.............
not just yet, we are focussing on getting coding done before June 12, the above event is happening then...

I hope! Just Imagine just getting out of school, and after less than a week we can play it! so awesome!
Sorry, you'll have to wait a while before release.

looks promising,I hope you guys get this game completed unlike most games in this forum.Good luck and take your time making it please dont rush it.
Thanks, I hope we finish it too...

and please people, dont expect a release too soon, as they say "Good things take time" if we rush the game, routes wont be planned well and just as soon as you get into the game, you will leave. I know both you and I dont want that, so please give us time to make a good job of this.

[DarkDoom3000]

Wow I cant wait to play the finished product keep it up !!!

[vkidx]

looks ace cnt wait for it

[Nova92]

Finally a good online pokemon game. Dont rush it because all th good quality wont be put in. Good job so far

[Blacksprite]

Finally a good online pokemon game. Dont rush it because all th good quality wont be put in. Good job so far

which is exactly why the public realsease is so far away
other wise we'll make a crappy game and everyone wont play it

[whitesprite]

which is exactly why the public realsease is so far away
other wise we'll make a crappy game and everyone wont play it

pretty much what I said:and please people, dont expect a release too soon, as they say "Good things take time" if we rush the game, routes wont be planned well and just as soon as you get into the game, you will leave. I know both you and I dont want that, so please give us time to make a good job of this.

so please, DONT tell us to hurry up

EDIT: you dont know what I went through to do this, but I got 2 things
1: Broadband
2: Screen recording software
So as soon as I blacksprite can be bothered firing up the server and us walking around and chatting, I will upload a video (AVI) for you people who insist that we need footage to prove that this works.

Noting that I want to prove this so much that I actually paid for a licence to "HyperCam" out of MY pocket so I can record this to prove to those of little faith that this game works and is at 44.9%.

I will probably record this after June 12 so that we have more than 2 people on the game and chatting and (hopefully) battling if the battle system is bug-free by the time we record the video.

[Jirachi_the_Wishmaker]

^^ wow very impressive!! I like the idea of an online game!! Veyr cool!! Great job so far..please countine with this!! Good luck, I hope all goes well for you!!

[pichugirl]

You guys can take all the time you want no need to rush I'm sure we can all be PATIENT.

[Nova92]

pretty much what I said:

so please, DONT tell us to hurry up

EDIT: you dont know what I went through to do this, but I got 2 things
1: Broadband
2: Screen recording software
So as soon as I blacksprite can be bothered firing up the server and us walking around and chatting, I will upload a video (AVI) for you people who insist that we need footage to prove that this works.

Noting that I want to prove this so much that I actually paid for a licence to "HyperCam" out of MY pocket so I can record this to prove to those of little faith that this game works and is at 44.9%.

I will probably record this after June 12 so that we have more than 2 people on the game and chatting and (hopefully) battling if the battle system is bug-free by the time we record the video.

For all i care , you guys can be working on it next year. The more time, the better quality.

[PikachuTrAiNeR]

Wow.. I've been away from PC, and all this?
Well, all I can say is I can help in spriting as I learnt it during my stay at SPPf! ^^

Good luck, and well, er.. I can help you in any way you want! ^^ Maybe making a site for you, I know HTML and a bit of PHP too. ^^

[holydemon6666]

i think this will be a great game... i always wanted to play pokemon in online bit none existed .. this is great , ill be looking forward to it

[Angle-san]

I'm drop by to see the progress and i LOVE it
I'm not rushing you guys
Keep it up

[Blacksprite]

Wow.. I've been away from PC, and all this?
Well, all I can say is I can help in spriting as I learnt it during my stay at SPPf! ^^

Good luck, and well, er.. I can help you in any way you want! ^^ Maybe making a site for you, I know HTML and a bit of PHP too. ^^

Pokemon TOA Webisite (http://www.kayo.vzz.net/index.htm)

As you can see its not finished
we would love some help
i want to add some php stuff in also

having some problems ith the website
let me no if you can even get there
also i think mozzila doesn't view it properly
i'll work on it

[The Dash]

Dosent load for me BSP, mate.

[zidanes]

How the heck do you start the download dawg !?!

[whitesprite]

How the heck do you start the download dawg !?!
The game is in production, not completed. Please read at least the first post.

Alpha test starts on the 12 June, all alpha testers have been chosen, so please dont request to be an alpha tester. If you have been selected as an alpha tester, we will PM you and organise a way to get the game to you for testing, if you have not been chosen, dont worry, your name is still down for the next text (alpha or beta).

[hippie_pkm]

hey id like to do beta if i can.

[whitesprite]

hey id like to do beta if i can.
please dont ask in the thread, it clogs the whole thing up... please PM me with these requests and please only ask once, I do note these down.

[Blacksprite]

How the heck do you start the download dawg !?!
it doesnt work we are still making it
this was more of a test to see what it would look like

but im gathering you can get to the website
what browser are you useing

heres a link to a screen
click here! (http://www.freewebs.com/kayo/web%20screen.PNG)

[Drew]

Omigosh, this looks awesome! Its like TPPC, or Pokemon-Crater-esque... only BETTER!

I love that someone is finally trying to do this! x3

I can't wait to see what it turns out like!

[statnio]

Hey guyz sorry i havent posted in ages ive been really busy working on the game and stuff.
Battle system is well on the way. Hepas of character sprites done the game is coming along nicely. there have been a heap of user ingame features added. Please dont ask to be a beta tester or when the game is going to be finished. Thank you.

Statnio

[waterboy]

this game looks great i cant wait for a demo

[hippie_pkm]

this game is gonna to b so cool.

[Blacksprite]

this game looks great i cant wait for a demo

im not even going to bother

[whitesprite]

Hey guyz sorry i havent posted in ages ive been really busy working on the game and stuff.
Battle system is well on the way. Hepas of character sprites done the game is coming along nicely. there have been a heap of user ingame features added. Please dont ask to be a beta tester or when the game is going to be finished. Thank you.

Statnio

Wow... how is it that someone like statnio can put what we've been trying to say over the whole thread in one paragraph, and make it sound good??? BTW welcome back statnio

this game looks great i cant wait for a demo
I wont bother talking about this either, just demos either have limited features or limited space, MMOs suck with either missing.

this game is gonna to b so cool.
the next thing I'm gonna say is for all people who post the above quote, not hippie_pkm
Pleeeeease dont post these things, it just gets frustrating wading through all of this to try to find what we're talking about...
Please, I am not saying we dont need your support, but please put it in a post which is constructive for the topic.

[Kurosai]

This sounds promising, and it looks like you've go a semi-proffesional team up. The fact that the leader of the project is a programmer is also a good sign, since programmers usually know what's possible and what isn't and rarely bite off more than they can chew. I really hope this project is succesful and I think I'll apply as a spriter/ideas guy after I finish this post. Before that though, there are some questions I have about the game.

1. Some die-hard fans of the old Pokemon system may be against this, but I really want to see a new battle-system, something that involves more than just select this move and watch it happen. Also, I believe Speed should play a greater role, not just affect turns (ex: should have a little effect on evasion/accuracy). Anyway, my basic question is, what's the battle system going to be like for this game, if you haven't decided yet, say that.

2. Since you're having player housing, will the mailboxes finally server a purpose? XD I'd like to see in-game mailing via pidgeys and such. I mean... the Pokemon games had mail things, but you rarely ever got the chance to use them and even if you did it was fairly pointless. It'd be cool to be able to send off your pidgey to deliver a message to a friend in another city and tell them you're on your way or something and they could send a reply mssage back.

3. Is Sandshrew one of the starters!? If it's not..I'll be really sad. T_T Sandshrew's my favorite along with Mew (but that's obviously not an option) sooo yeah. Just curious. OH! Please tell me you'll fix some of the things that just didn't make sense in the old games, like Sandshrew not having Dig as an ability it can learn naturally. >>

4. Will your game have the system where pokemon become magically uncapturable after they faint or will it go like the anime and finally allow that?

5. Am I annoying you with all these questions?

Hehe, okay I'm done. I hope the answer to #5 is No, but eh. *shrugs* Now I guess I'll apply and send a little sample of my work for the spriting position... although I'm good at ideas as well if you couldn't tell. ;P

[Angle-san]

I think on Page one you guys should put in BOLD and Red Font
teh things you don't want to hear ^^

[Kurosai]

I think on Page one you guys should put in BOLD and Red Font
teh things you don't want to hear ^^

I agree completely. It would prevent some of the more annoying posts and it would make you seem less rude, since not everyone in the forum feels like reading through hundreds of posts to find ones where you answer something. An FAQ section below your main post seperated by ------- might help.

[Angle-san]

An FAQ section below your main post seperated by ------- might help.Hey that's not a bad Idea ya'know ^^

[Kurosai]

Hey that's not a bad Idea ya'know ^^

Thanks, ^^ I think all threads could benefit from an FAQ at the bottom to help stem the constant faqs (as in the questions themselves XP) that keep popping up.

[Waudby]

Well it is simple enoug. Just dont ask to be testers for no reason, they will ask for some testers if necessary. And also stop asking for a demo. Nuthin is worse than having hundreds of posts asking this!!

-Waudby-

[Kurosai]

Well it is simple enoug. Just dont ask to be testers for no reason, they will ask for some testers if necessary. And also stop asking for a demo. Nuthin is worse than having hundreds of posts asking this!!

-Waudby-

Yes, but unfortunately many "noobs" don't know that, and since it's rarely in the first posts (since people assume it's common sense) they usually don't find out until it's too late, at which point the thread-creator gets annoyed/mad. This makes problems for both the creator and the "noob". That's why I suggested an FAQ section as a countermeasure so it never happens in the first place. Also, Waudby, it's highly unlikely any of the ones responsible will ever see your post, since they usually only read (if at all) the first post. ^^;

[Waudby]

Then maybe they should read the rules. Avatar has clearly stated no asking for demos or beta testers lol. SO u no. Checked out the site. Looking good so far. Have many people donated yet??

-Waudby-

[Kurosai]

Then maybe they should read the rules. Avatar has clearly stated no asking for demos or beta testers lol.

Yeah, but again, the troublemakers and "noobs" easilly overlook stuff like that. So a nice big red sign near the top or end of the post (better near the top) stating "DO NOT ASK TO BE AN ALPHA OR BETA TESTER!" would deter them a bit. ;P

[DeathChill]

This sounds promising, and it looks like you've go a semi-proffesional team up. The fact that the leader of the project is a programmer is also a good sign, since programmers usually know what's possible and what isn't and rarely bite off more than they can chew. I really hope this project is succesful and I think I'll apply as a spriter/ideas guy after I finish this post. Before that though, there are some questions I have about the game.

A programmer rarely bites off more then they can chew? Yeah right! People don't realize how hard something is until they have to do it.


1. Some die-hard fans of the old Pokemon system may be against this, but I really want to see a new battle-system, something that involves more than just select this move and watch it happen. Also, I believe Speed should play a greater role, not just affect turns (ex: should have a little effect on evasion/accuracy). Anyway, my basic question is, what's the battle system going to be like for this game, if you haven't decided yet, say that.

I would hope that it would be the exact same as R/S/E/D/P's as what's the point of making a Pokemon game if you're messing around with the MAIN function of the game. The creators and programmers of Pokemon know their stuff as there's a lot of formulas at work in battle, you don't want to mess those up.


3. Is Sandshrew one of the starters!? If it's not..I'll be really sad. T_T Sandshrew's my favorite along with Mew (but that's obviously not an option) sooo yeah. Just curious. OH! Please tell me you'll fix some of the things that just didn't make sense in the old games, like Sandshrew not having Dig as an ability it can learn naturally. >>

I would imagine they're unlikely to change anything because the Pokemon games are set up in specific ways for a reason.

[Kurosai]

A programmer rarely bites off more then they can chew? Yeah right! People don't realize how hard something is until they have to do it.

...let me rephrase.... skilled programmers usually know their limits... moving on... -_-


I would hope that it would be the exact same as R/S/E/D/P's as what's the point of making a Pokemon game if you're messing around with the MAIN function of the game. The creators and programmers of Pokemon know their stuff as there's a lot of formulas at work in battle, you don't want to mess those up.

...not going to bother, there's no reasoning with people like you who cling tightly to old ways...


I would imagine they're unlikely to change anything because the Pokemon games are set up in specific ways for a reason.

Well they've changed one thing, 28 starters or so eh? That's diffrent. >>

[Waudby]

28 starters so tht people dont have to choose from 3, otherwise u would have too many people with the same pokemon! It would suck like tht, am i right? SO the have raised it up higher so there is lsightly more variety.

-Waudby-

[DeathChill]

...let me rephrase.... skilled programmers usually know their limits... moving on... -_-

Indeed, skilled programmers usually know their limits. ^_^

.
...not going to bother, there's no reasoning with people like you who cling tightly to old ways...

No no, it's not that I'm just clinging to the old way just because it's the old way, it's because it makes sense. I'd imagine for the first Pokemon Online game that comes out (not that I expect it to, none ever do) it makes very little sense to modify the battle system if you want to call this Pokemon Online because it just detracts from the fact that it's supposed to be a Pokemon game. I wouldn't be opposed to having a whole different server/game specifically for it, but the focus for the first server/game should be to match the original games in the formulas and such.

I think it'd be neat if Pokemon could actually battle using the controls and you could actually control them as in a side fighter thing, but I'd want there to be at least an original.

You don't seem to be able to provide any real ideas or reasoning for why the battle system should be changed, but get cranky at anyone who opposes the idea.

.
Well they've changed one thing, 28 starters or so eh? That's diffrent. >>

That's not such a big change. It's not a good idea as the types are supposed to be balanced, but it's not that big of a change.

[whitesprite]

Some die-hard fans of the old Pokemon system may be against this, but I really want to see a new battle-system, something that involves more than just select this move and watch it happen. Also, I believe Speed should play a greater role, not just affect turns (ex: should have a little effect on evasion/accuracy). Anyway, my basic question is, what's the battle system going to be like for this game, if you haven't decided yet, say that.

I dont think I should release such hidden information, blacksprite?

Since you're having player housing, will the mailboxes finally server a purpose? XD I'd like to see in-game mailing via pidgeys and such. I mean... the Pokemon games had mail things, but you rarely ever got the chance to use them and even if you did it was fairly pointless. It'd be cool to be able to send off your pidgey to deliver a message to a friend in another city and tell them you're on your way or something and they could send a reply mssage back.

We've already thought of this

Is Sandshrew one of the starters!? If it's not..I'll be really sad. T_T Sandshrew's my favorite along with Mew (but that's obviously not an option) sooo yeah. Just curious. OH! Please tell me you'll fix some of the things that just didn't make sense in the old games, like Sandshrew not having Dig as an ability it can learn naturally. >>

Again, unsure weather I can release this information

Will your game have the system where pokemon become magically uncapturable after they faint or will it go like the anime and finally allow that?

?... Blacksprite?

I think on Page one you guys should put in BOLD and Red Font
teh things you don't want to hear ^^
I agree completely. It would prevent some of the more annoying posts and it would make you seem less rude, since not everyone in the forum feels like reading through hundreds of posts to find ones where you answer something. An FAQ section below your main post seperated by ------- might help.
Hey that's not a bad Idea ya'know ^^
Thanks, ^^ I think all threads could benefit from an FAQ at the bottom to help stem the constant faqs (as in the questions themselves XP) that keep popping up.
Well it is simple enoug. Just dont ask to be testers for no reason, they will ask for some testers if necessary. And also stop asking for a demo. Nuthin is worse than having hundreds of posts asking this!!
Yes, but unfortunately many "noobs" don't know that, and since it's rarely in the first posts (since people assume it's common sense) they usually don't find out until it's too late, at which point the thread-creator gets annoyed/mad. This makes problems for both the creator and the "noob". That's why I suggested an FAQ section as a countermeasure so it never happens in the first place. Also, Waudby, it's highly unlikely any of the ones responsible will ever see your post, since they usually only read (if at all) the first post. ^^;
Then maybe they should read the rules. Avatar has clearly stated no asking for demos or beta testers lol. SO u no. Checked out the site. Looking good so far. Have many people donated yet??
Yeah, but again, the troublemakers and "noobs" easilly overlook stuff like that. So a nice big red sign near the top or end of the post (better near the top) stating "DO NOT ASK TO BE AN ALPHA OR BETA TESTER!" would deter them a bit. ;P

All of the above are OFF TOPIC, funny... how thats what they are talking about...

That's not such a big change. It's not a good idea as the types are supposed to be balanced, but it's not that big of a change.
Well first, heres what REALLY happens, professor Oak gives you a choice of THREE pokemon, these are randomly selected from the list of 28.
Second, would you prefer a game where every third person you battle has a squirtle (or its evolutions)?

[Kurosai]

@DeathChill: Sorry for jumping to conclusions and getting cranky. I'd just dealt with a friend of mine who defends certain old ways (such as the magical immunity to pokeballs once fainted) with giving any good reason. As for my own reasons, I'd just like to have more control over the battle and be able to impliment more strategy into it. I've always wanted to, for example, control my Sandshrew like AJ did in the very early episodes of Pokemon (minus the whip). I mean, a real Pokemon battle would involve so much more than just stating the move, at least for a skilled trainer.

@whitesprite: I understand the need to keep information confidential, so I won't ask again unless blacksprite gives the okay. ^^; Although, I don't really agree with the randomized system... it would be nice if you could just select from various common Pokemon + the starters. Well, that's just my opinion, and I'm biased because I want Sandshrew as a starter. XD Also, sorry for going off-topic, but I do think an FAQ would really help you guys out a lot.

[mato45]

well I suppose the problem would be that if one of the 28 is so popular too many people use that so the battles aren't diverse enough so instead you are given a random choice of three so the possibilites of people chosing the same popular pokemon are more reigned in.

[holydemon6666]

i got a suggestion , why not make a pokemon learn many moves insted on just 4.
that will be so cool and also make a pokemon stat and level go beyond the default limit in pokemon

[DaVince]

I'll have to say this game looks sweet as hell. A few custom graphics which look good, I see. The online function really rocks.

I voted for Pokémon Universe as a name.

[brendan mc]

it looks ok just now (better than i could eva do (**,)

[Blacksprite]

i got a suggestion , why not make a pokemon learn many moves insted on just 4.
that will be so cool and also make a pokemon stat and level go beyond the default limit in pokemon

well the battle system works execelent the way it is
for now we will just leave it the same

I understand the need to keep information confidential, so I won't ask again unless blacksprite gives the okay. ^^; Although, I don't really agree with the randomized system... it would be nice if you could just select from various common Pokemon + the starters. Well, that's just my opinion, and I'm biased because I want Sandshrew as a starter. XD Also, sorry for going off-topic, but I do think an FAQ would really help you guys out a lot.

and we probably would do that (if it wasn't an mmo) your still thinking a bit single player (proberbally we've all wanted something changed in the original single player games)
again if people like a certain pokemon like sandshrew they would all get it and the game would have no real diffrence between begining trainers

[Pkmn_Trainer_Silver]

Bro. Give credit to Mirage Source... I know that's what source you're using. And looking at the screenshots, you can't really program. I'm only assuming, please tell me otherwise. But all I see is a change in GFX and using Pokemon Tiles and Sprites. And to correct you, this would be an ORPG. Winsock can only handle so many connections, it isn't suitable for MMORPGs.

[The Dash]

This has already been discussed many times PTS. Try reading the thread next time would you?

[Pkmn_Trainer_Silver]

Alrighty. Just checking. No need to kick me. >.> -Pokes.- Pretty nice, though. I'm using MS. Are you on the MS forums? I'm Matt on the MS forums. Who are you on the MS forums?

[Blacksprite]

Alrighty. Just checking. No need to kick me. >.> -Pokes.- Pretty nice, though. I'm using MS. Are you on the MS forums? I'm Matt on the MS forums. Who are you on the MS forums?

i'm not on the MS forums sorry

quick update
geo has drafted our new and improved player housing system
i've done more work on the battle system
and hopefully whitesp has imputted some more sprites

[whitesprite]

Bro. Give credit to Mirage Source... I know that's what source you're using. And looking at the screenshots, you can't really program. I'm only assuming, please tell me otherwise. But all I see is a change in GFX and using Pokemon Tiles and Sprites. And to correct you, this would be an ORPG. Winsock can only handle so many connections, it isn't suitable for MMORPGs.

I've covered this when I said If you want to say anything todo with engines or legality PLEASE read previous posts as we have had HUGE discussions about these

So the answers to all of your questions will be found after wading through pages of crap.

I also said
and if anyone talks about engines again I will insult them like hell
but as I am now very nice (thanks blacksprite for that anger management:)) I wont...

But Please dont talk about anything todo with engines or legality unless you have read previous posts and have something new to say.

Also to Pkmn_Trainer_Silver: Geo Logic would know the difference between an ORPG and an MMORPG, and it is definately an MMO. also when did we say anything about winsock?

And until anyone plays the game, the screenshots only show the tileset and a few characters, you couldn't tell what the programming is like... Geo Logic has spent many months working behind the scenes making the game work better and implementing a battle system, so until a BETA version is released noone other than the testing team will know.

BTW: Alpha Test begins today

[The Dash]

Alpha test, huh? Prepare to be bombarded with things like "OMYGAWDZ CAN I PLOX BE TEH ALPHAHA TESTER LOLOLOL!!!!1111oneoneeleven"
..Maybe not exactly like that but something like it..

[Angle-san]

You know they'll just not read it then xD i bet they've chosen them already

[whitesprite]

Alpha test, huh? Prepare to be bombarded with things like "OMYGAWDZ CAN I PLOX BE TEH ALPHAHA TESTER LOLOLOL!!!!1111oneoneeleven"
..Maybe not exactly like that but something like it..

Good point... this is not meant to be arrogant but

NO MORE ALPHA TESTERS

[Angle-san]

YEs you used the BIG BOLD RED FONT
^^

[DeathChill]

Well, is it safe to assume that we'll be seeing screenshots from the alpha test? As well, the alpha test includes the battle engine, no?

[theotherfreakyguy]

Hello. Could I try the Alpha Test? I will be able to notice problems in mapping because when it comes to sprites I practically have compulsive obsessive disorder. I can also make suggestions for the battle system's sprites and overall performance. If I can test, please PM it to me. I am probably not the best person for online multiplayer testing, however. Thank you, whether I make it or not.

[whitesprite]

sorry, did you miss my last post??
Your username has been noted down and when a spot on the testing team comes up, you will be informed through PokeCommunity PM

EDIT: sorry, I lost my tester records, I could only find

waterboy
Nyght001
theotherfreakyguy

If anyone else requested a tester position or you wish to become a tester, PM me. Note I wont reply so only PM me once. If you PM me many times your name may be removed from the list. Note: being on the list does not guarantee a place in the next test.

If you have requested to be on the list, please check your PMs frequently as if we dont get a reply from you within 2 days of us PMing you, you will not be part of the testing team for the next test.

[Pkmn_knight]

hehe if it is possible could i make an online game by downloading programs and learning how to code it?

[Blacksprite]

hehe if it is possible could i make an online game by downloading programs and learning how to code it?

no not useally most games are closed source and without the source you would have huge trouble

also mmo s and infintinly complex and although may use the same code lauage the internal subs and cases would be a mystery to you. as only the original programmers would know there own code

[Nyght001]

Yes i have to agree as me and my friend are in the making a online game using C++ using a program called Byond.The reason i want to be a tester here is because it is coded in java and i have tested some java based games and they are awesome,and it's nice to see someone else striving for the same thing we are which is a Online Pokemon game so everyone can play and enjoy the game at the same time.

[Blacksprite]

Java? im not going to start
byond hmmm hmmmm no im not going to start

also (now im not advertising for another forum) if you would like to be notified by email as soon as the games realeased join our forum as i will be emailing everyone on there, so please join up even you dont post. just so i know who to email, also with updates.

-LINK EDITED-

[Nyght001]

My Bad Blacksprite i meant VB.Very Sorry.

[Blacksprite]

lol nah its good

update
yet again more bug fixes
new concept offerd at design meeting. Non scrolling map (speeds up heaps)

[Morkula]

Blacksprite, please don't post links to forums.
*LINK EDITED*

[whitesprite]

Blacksprite, please don't post links to forums.
He wasnt advertising another forum(which is in the rules), he just said that if you want to be informed about release, signup to the forum in my sig and he will mass email everyone who has signed up. Thats not really linking to a forum, people are still going to be here, he's just saying "if you sign up, you dont even have to post, I will mass email everyone on that forum when the games release is" unless you will mass email everyone who has posted in this thread about the release...

[Stunt]

Wow, this looks really impressive. Can I be a tester?

[The Dash]

*Sigh*.



NO MORE ALPHA TESTERS
Do you get it now?

[Blacksprite]

*Sigh*.
Do you get it now?

well there has nbeen many posts on many pages so i cant really say pls read previous post but atleast the page before

[The Dash]

My point is that people should READ THROUGH THREADS before posting things like that..

[poke_a_mon]

This game sounds cool keep up the good work.

[DeathChill]

Not to go too off-topic but MAN YOU GOTTA FIX YOUR SITE. It's God-awful. You can't read any of the text and everything is off-centered (once you highlight it so that you can actually see anything).

[The Dash]

Yeah, It dosent work in Firefox mate.
Try opening it in Internet Explorer.

[bsilva001]

I know some vb6 so I may be of some help. Thats if you need it or want it.

[Blacksprite]

hmm odd kinda double post there
yea firfox has some problems with cascading style sheets
were working on it

[DeathChill]

hmm odd kinda double post there
yea firfox has some problems with cascading style sheets
were working on it
No, IE has some problems with CSS. PLEASE code it properly and not around IE's flaws. Firefox & Safari are displaying it correctly, it's just the code is wrong. Plus, I'm on Mac OS X using Safari anyway, so my selection of browsers is limited.

[Blacksprite]

i'll code it when i have time any way i like.

[whitesprite]

No, IE has some problems with CSS. PLEASE code it properly and not around IE's flaws. Firefox & Safari are displaying it correctly, it's just the code is wrong. Plus, I'm on Mac OS X using Safari anyway, so my selection of browsers is limited.

i'll code it when i have time any way i like.

If IE isnt showing the site up properly, the creation software (Industry standard) Macromedia Dreamweaver (a brand new version) must be making it incorrectly... I dont think the industry would trust web development software which codes a site incorrectly, it just doesnt seem right, you know being a web developer as a profession and using sub-standard software which codes websites incorrectly as the software you need to be able to get customers... is it just me, or