Pokemon Online mmorpg

[Blacksprite]

Its not that

Its just by menu i meant game menu not battle system menu
sorry about that

if you look on the second or third or maybey 4th you'll see my "atempts", which will never happen again, at making an in game menu

Just finisheing up the status effect system of the battle system
it wasnt working at all so im rewriting the code for it
i think the problem was that i changed the layut of other secsions of the battle system which kinda skiped status effects

so i just finished confusion which took about 2 hours, most of that was trying to figure out what i had done and y the interface wasnt working

i'll try to finish up the other status conditions tonight
but today its statnio's birthday so we wi'll be having a party with him
my hope is that by the end of Jan we will have most of the work done this includes
PVP battle system finished
same with wild and npc battles
and a few other nice things like pkmn storage, pokedex etc
have a working GUI
Samsons helping out with that, so welcome samson to the team
our Jail system
Swear filter
then a genral tidy up
add in the gym leaders alothough i doubt we wil lbe able to map all that so quickly

once the dev team is satisfiyed we will have our realease then we will start adding in all our other features.

[Garethp]

When you have time after this project and school and such, you are sooo teaching me how to code. I demand it :P But seriously, I want to learn to code like you!

[Blacksprite]

Trial and error - its the ultamit way to learn, that and
"hello world"

Any way i just finished putting frozen status into the battle system
i have to finish the status's brefore i can stick moves into the battle system

there isnt much left on the PvP battle system
then it wont take much to comvert it to wild and npc battles

[Garethp]

Great! When will the Demo be out? Trial and error requires you to know what the hell your doing... so I need someone to teach me that!

[Xbull3t]

This looks great. I like MMORPGs. One of my Fav ones is runescape.

[Samson]

have you gotten my PM, blacksprite?

[Blacksprite]

Yes i did thank you Samson
And i hope you decide to join the team

Update
Just finished all the status problems
and all the base experience values

Another update
Healing you pokemon at the pokemon center is working

[Garethp]

Wouldn't the Pokemon Center be one of the easiest things?

[Blaziken_Boy]

I can't make anything good in Paint anyway.

A new idea. Once you're done wth the battle system, can you create a few arena-type maps and make a small online battle system demo? It would have...

Choose one of the 9 starters (excluding Pikachu), they would start at L5.
Battle with other Trainers.
a VERY small Pokemart selling Potions and stat-cure stuff.
Online capabilities.(of course :P )

I think that would make all the 'lol can i downlode th gema 2 try it/' people happy.

[Hao]

is this going to be one of those mmorpg's where you can only play out the half of the game if you are a free player and you need to be a paying player to play out the whole game

[The Dash]

I don't think BSP will charge for it..

[Samson]

it's a free game in whole

there is in-game currency, however. refer to the first post, kthxbye

[Blacksprite]

Im not going to charge no
im doing it out of the kindness of my heart (where did i put that)

in game cunnency yes but it doesnt cost to earn money in game
Entirely and utterly free

[Garethp]

Ofcourse. I think it would be pretty dam stupid to charge for it...

[The Dash]

Not really, unless they get the server for free.

[Blacksprite]

and the internet connection
Matinence
Backup internet connection
lawsuits (jokes)
developer matinence (pies etc V)
Domian name
Webserver

[Garethp]

Meh. Buy your own server and install Windows Server on it...

[Blacksprite]

either way its still going to cost and windows server wont work has to be win xp for now for the server
the client will run on anything
as long as it has winsock capabilities

EDIT:
Just finished the pokedex
oh and thanks to Garethp for the help with the moves

[Hao]

i've got an idea and 2 question
idea:
have you ever played runescape
in runescape the give holdiday items away during holidays wouldn't it be fun to give away hoen pokemon(or johto) or to give away tickets of some sort with which you can catch 1 hoen pokemon(again or johto)
if this is alread posted sorry

question 1:
can you place a christmas tree in your house during christmas or something else with a other holiday


question 2:
what colors wil the pokemon be because you say in 7 colors

[Blaziken_Boy]

What's a Pokemon game without Pokemon?
What's a Pokemon game without Pokemon trainer battles?
What's a Pokemon game without tall grass?
What's a Pokemon game without catching Pokemon?
What's a Pokemon game without catching Shinies and showing 'em off?

In fact, Shinies seem to be needed in each Pokemon game ever. This game could even have a Shiny count.

Oh, Blacksprite....There is no turning back now. You've got too many people supporting you, and calling this off right when the battle system is almost done....I could say is illogical.I in fact got someone in my school waiting for this. Blacksprite, think about it,though. Not one step backwards, comrade. This victory shall be a glorious one.
Remember my 'famous' quote: Victory comes to those willing to get it!
You are the one willing to get it.

what colors will the pokemon be because you say 7 colors
He meant the trainer.Well, I think. I can't really awnser that question, that's what I heard though.

[Voodoo]

Hey all,

Anyway I sent you a PM to BlackSprite - I feel I can contribute on the graphic side of the game, like the GUI and such. Good luck, and like someone said earlier - Getting this far and then quitting would be silly, go for it mate.

[Blacksprite]

Alright i'l answer the first reply first then downwards

i've got an idea and 2 question
idea:
have you ever played runescape

Once - didnt like it

in runescape the give holdiday items away during holidays wouldn't it be fun to give away hoen pokemon(or johto) or to give away tickets of some sort with which you can catch 1 hoen pokemon(again or johto)
if this is alread posted sorry


Already under consideration
although doing that would require an update off all the clients to accept a new pokemon not to mention that each pokemon brings a slight chage to the battle system
this may be closer to the release of a major game update which may or maynot include other regions

question 1:
can you place a christmas tree in your house during christmas or something else with a other holiday

Crismas funriture
will undoubtable be included in the release of the layer housng system

question 2:
what colors wil the pokemon be because you say in 7 colors

The 7 colors refers to the trainer sprites
shineys will not apear the the beta release but s shedualed for the official public release

Oh, Blacksprite....There is no turning back now.
wasn't plaining on it

I in fact got someone in my school waiting for this.

its sad to say most people in my final year at my school are waiting for this

[Hao]

in the first post (i think) you said that you need to buy a house from someon or something like that but where do you start then

and are there secret bases or are the player housing or what ever it is called the replacements for the secret bases

[Blacksprite]

in the first post (i think) you said that you need to buy a house from someon or something like that but where do you start then

and are there secret bases or are the player housing or what ever it is called the replacements for the secret bases

First were not replacing anything we making

There are no secret bases's
can you imagine what that would cause

im going to add this to the first post beacuase im forever answerering this question
in the beginig you are given a cheap apartment out of the kindness of the aparment owners heart to give begining trainers a room and shelter whilest they train. this cannot be sold, traded or in anyway else used to generate Yen

[Hao]

with replacements i meant if you are going to do the house in place of the secret bases
thanks for the answer just on little question
do you have a date that you are working to get the game done or are do you just see when it is done almost and the set a date (sorry you must get this kind of questions a lot)

and are you still looking for spriters becuase i can do a little spriting i am not very good but i can do it a little

[Samson]

you people are expecting WAY too much of a MMORPG, especially in it's beginning stages.

you have too much patience, Blacksprite ._.

[Blaziken_Boy]

*thinks about secret bases*
Record from my mind:
Guy 1: Hey, I got here first!
Guy 2: No, I did!
Guy1: Let's battle!
*battle*
Guy 1: But you pulled out a level 67 pokemon on a level 34! cheater!
Guy 2: I get the base still.
*end record*
The rest is chaos.

Oh, and when you said Yen, you meant Poke?(currency.)

[Xbull3t]

Yen is Japanese money ^_^.

[Blacksprite]

and if you look at the games the money symbol is yen Y with line throught it
so we thought we'd keep the same currency
seeing as 200 yen for a pokeball is about $2

as for blaziken_boys chaos theroy you forgot the part were they both call the police
and we have to dispacth ppl to sort it out in the end i take the base

Update
Major bug fixes and optrimazations to to metion mutliply syntax error fixes
item system about 50% done

[The Dash]

200.00 JPY = 1.69248 USD
1 USD = 118.170 JPY Eheh.. Close ^_^'

[Voodoo]

Agreed, people expect the game to perfect in it's first incarnation - Chill. ;O

What other GUI elements need to be done Blacksprite? Can you let me know, including details and such? Also, I haven't displayed any of my work so I just took the dimensions of the splash screen found in the first post and made my own version -

http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/8289/splash2wy2.png

You and the other guys can decide if I'll be able to bring something worthwhile to the project.

[b0bl3]

looks cool i think alot of people will like it but the maps still look a little empty, but il be judging for you guys!

[Blacksprite]

the maps still look a little empty,

first thoose are old maps from the begining of the project
second mmo maps are diffrent to single play there has to be enough room to move in with 80 or more ppl on one map, so that makes them quite gard to map
then you have to make sure that there is no choke points
But i have to agree thoose screens shots are nasty
mapping is going to take along time to finish and to make them look good
but were nopt focused on that now

ofcourse the obvios solution if you dont like them
when we start highering mapps apply to be one

[Blaziken_Boy]

Hmm.... What if someone walks into the same square as someone else? I'd hate to see 2 sprites stuck in the same square.

And that Online Adventures loading screen is the coolzerest.

Oh, I thought the Poke symbol was a P with a line through it....

Are there gonna be legendaries? Maybe you can make an event where everyone that posted in this gets a chance to meet a legendary Pokemon, and before they do they get an Ultraball. Also, if the person had an L70 Pokemon, they'd meet an L70 legendary. If they were L5, they would meet an L5. And so on and so on.

I suggest that if 2 sprites get stuck, when someone hits a key pointing in a free square, they spin around to that square. Just an idea. It's better than seeing 2 people turning like crazy trying to get out of each other.

Oh, can you give us a status report, BSP? Also, how do I become a mapper?

[Naas02]

^^^^How about they just program your character with 6 Mewtwos and give you banning power as well why settle for less?

[Garethp]

Hey, change the Yen to $ will ya, I hate any other currency that is not decimal/$. He won't turn back, I know him too well. Image you striving for the one thing that you beleive will be the best thing you have ever done, something you want more than anything else... can you imagine yourself turning back?

We could use more of you volenteering, but I would like it if you didn't volenteer doing the same thing I am, I like to do this, it may be boring, but it beats holiday boredom. Man, if I didn't have this job I would be soo bored. *Gets a tie from a shop and makes a noose around his neck* I'd want to do that but I would never do it XD

I assume that I speak for everyone working on this when I say that all suggestions for the final release are open for consideration. If I am wrong, so be it, it isn't really my place to say so anyway I just feel that BlackSprite agrees with me here. Anyway, we are all hyped up, and man, I feel weird refering to 'us' as a group/team I am in... whatever :D

[Voodoo]

I got the PM Blacksprite. I'm redoing that second GUI screen now (pretty mucg done) and I'll start work on the rest. I'm particulary interested in starting on the Pokedex/PokeGear should be fun.

[Blacksprite]

I suggest that if 2 sprites get stuck, when someone hits a key pointing in a free square, they spin around to that square. Just an idea. It's better than seeing 2 people turning like crazy trying to get out of each other.

Where did you get this from who said they can ocupy the same square and who said that if they do the spin around on the same spot

Neither of which is true
the server checks all movement before the movement takes place

you guys underestermate me

and im not changing it from YEN
i like how the gba games do it

alright update lets see *looks at todo list*

Move calculations are done
Pokemon incl enemys pokemon are i nthe datatbase
Move are on the way they will be ful limplimented by thursday
Status effects are inputed
The itemeditor is awaiting iems
Using items in bttle im doing tomo
the pokedex is complete (ecept it has no gfx) working on that
Pokemn center healling is finished
my jail system is done

thats all the stuf on my current to do list thats done or near done

items will most likely not feature in the ucomming battle system test as i have to completely rewirte the invetory sub

so thats what ive done

to becme a mapper apply when i anouce were looking for them
(requires training)

[Blaziken_Boy]

About the walking and sprites being stuck, I meant for just where new people start. And, I was just checking the movement. How will the apartments work since about 100 people are gonna play this game at the start? Just wondering, since it'd look weird to have 100 rooms in a 2-story apartment. o_o

I know I'll be a mapper...unless it costs anything other than my time...or even my mental health...I wil be a mapper! Of course, I gotta wait till

Moves are completed,
All items are put in,
Using items in battle is possible and
The dex has its gfx.

Wow, not much stuff left. BSP, you've got to let off downloading ANYTHING. You don't want a virus crushing all this work.

I'm gonna study the Viridian City map... Oh, but who shall do the Gym map, and won't the mappers get in on the secret about who the 8th gymleader is? And, I think we're about

56% complete!

[Hao]

maybe its a dumb question but will there be hm's in it and are you using the orginal hm's or are you going to do some new

and if you use fly or something wouldn't it be cool if you really saw you flying because that's one of the few things i hated about the orginal games that you can't see yourself flying and if you do it that you see yourself flying you can use it as a loading screen or something if its needed

[Voodoo]

I find it silly how someone can ask for something trivial like a flying screen animation when Blacksprite is busy creating a Pokemon MMORPG. That right there is all the amazement and wow you need.

The games coming along nicely. I'll have alot of the graphical work up this week, so keep your eyes up. ;O

[Krobelus]

Wow, im impressed, I didnt think this game would stick, but I guess I was wrong. Anyway, if ya want, I could apply for mapping, but im kind of busy as it is with my own game, but I would be glad to contribute something to this soon-to-be-great game. Also, if you ever get the chance, try out the game Tibia, its a free mmorpg, and the graphics are really good for 2d, and it moves tile to tile like your game, just saying you could get reference from that game, as it is really fun, and over 80,000 people play it.

Anyhoo, thats just my two cents for the day, and I hope this project becomes something one day. Good luck.

[Blacksprite]

About the walking and sprites being stuck, I meant for just where new people start. And, I was just checking the movement. How will the apartments work since about 100 people are gonna play this game at the start? o_o
I even if 100 people spawn on top of you you cans till move off that square/tile
unkess your surrounded blocks

as for 100 rooms they are instance based, they are instance based and its 4 stories high

Most of the original HMs will be there
although some maybe removed ie cut
or flash maybey more difficult

[Blaziken_Boy]

You'd need to make an animation for a few things like Dig. For Fly you can just use the big blue orb gets you to wherever animation. And, you don't need to make 2 more regions if there's popular demand, just take the Pokemon and put them in the game. Oh, a few questions:

Are all starters 3-evo starters?
How will you show that someone's battling a wild pokemon/trainer? (I meant wild Pokemon or just trainer, not wild trainer. :\ )
Will any of the beta tests be with online capabilities?

*idea* How about we make a small town that has absolutely nothing to do with Kanto, but be a chatroom for mappers/game developers? Then everyone making the game will get to see what the game looks like outside the pictures, and provide a good place for discussing what we'll do next.

[Hao]

how did you learn to program like that
and i got a cool idea maybe make a option that you can make your own gym from your house or something

off topic: did anyone notice that the christmas logo says 2005

[Xbull3t]

Yeah, i just noticed that lol

[Blacksprite]

And, you don't need to make 2 more regions if there's popular demand, just take the Pokemon and put them in the game. Oh, a few questions:

""just take the Pokemon and put them in the game.""
Are all starters 3-evo starters?
Its just that easy
maybe the starters are 3 evo maybe they're not

How will you show that someone's battling a wild pokemon/trainer? (I meant wild Pokemon or just trainer, not wild trainer. :\ )
Most people with half a brain should be able to tell the difference i hope

Will any of the beta tests be with online capabilities?
What the whole thing is online it doesnt work without it being online

*idea* How about we make a small town that has absolutely nothing to do with Kanto, but be a chatroom for mappers/game developers?
We call it the moderators lounge

Then everyone making the game will get to see what the game looks like outside the pictures, and provide a good place for discussing what we'll do next.
they already do

how did you learn to program like that
and i got a cool idea maybe make a option that you can make your own gym from your house or something

off topic: did anyone notice that the christmas logo says 2005
its on our todo list already

[MrLunchbox]

Your website needs paying btw. That or your host....


Yea lol I saw the 2005 thingo too

[The Dash]

Yeah I know it does,
I'll be blunt. I can't pay it, I have no money and I can't ask my parents for some this close to Christmas.

[Garethp]

Ouch... I'd chip in... if

1. I had money
2. I had a credit card

[Blacksprite]

Were hoping to have a donate button once the games up and running
and unfortunatly a buch of adds
no popups tho

ooh we can now get prepoayed credit cards
simalar to splasplastic

[The Dash]

Eheh, I think he was talking to me BlackSprite xD
If not then *Stabs self.*
Thanks if so Gareth.
I have 30 days to pay before I loose my account, huzzah:'(!

Edit: Site will be back up soon, £18.27 down the drain =D

[Garethp]

Aw man. I was indeed talking to you. You guys never up-date the site anyway... why don't you guys get a part-time job or something?

[Blacksprite]

Aw man. I was indeed talking to you. You guys never up-date the site anyway... why don't you guys get a part-time job or something?

Why dont you
It would take away from my coding time
and most of the dev team already do

[Garethp]

I would get a part-time job if my mom let me. I see your point though...

[Zerus]

Wow Its nice to see this thing is still alive. Keep up the good work guys. Sorry theres nothing I can do to help XC

[Blacksprite]

I would get a part-time job if my mom let me. I see your point though...
and were currently paying at no cost to users the internet connection each month
and for the static ip
server upkeep and improvments

[whitesprite]

Hey, just saying that my comp is (sorta) fixed, so i will be back into those sprites real soon...

[OFF TOPIC]
I think blacksp told some people that my (brand new) computer blew up *curses Acer*... I sent it away to be repaired and 6wks later (not 10 days like i was told) i got it back and only cos we said that we would go to the media if we didnt get it back the next day...

Only half the problems were fixed so we are (hopefully) gonna get a refund and a new computer today
[ON TOPIC]

Well, we miscounted the sprites that we were gonna add in, so there is gonna be more than 100 (different ones), but some of them wont have 7 colour options... [i know, i'm guttered too, but some of the characters dont look good unless they are the colour they were in FR/LG...]

EDIT: i also changed the donate link in my sig, so now you can pay by credit card or direct debit (handled by paypal) and you now dont need a paypal account to donate...

If you can, please donate to help us provide

A Static IP (NZ$20 a month) - so people can actually connect 100% of the time the server is on
Broadband internet access (NZ$49.95 a month) -so the internet is fast enough to handle everyone (not helped by xtra who just lowered our speeds to raise the speeds in auckland... DAMN JAFAS)
Server maintenance - self explanatory
Webhosting (i'm sure The Dash wont want us hosting our forum on his webhost forever... thanks for that though Dash...)
A domain name for PTOA's website and Forum
POSSIBLY a game server in US (faster access for most people)

[The Dash]

Personally, I don't mind you hosting on my server atall, I get 250gb webspace that I haven't even filled 3% of in a year yet and 2100gb Bandwith a month that I will NEVER use. So hey, keep hosting on me for as long as you want.

If you get a domain name I will be happy to host that aswell, giving you full FTP Access and probally Controll Panel (as long as servage don't get really picky.)

[Blacksprite]

Personally, I don't mind you hosting on my server atall, I get 250gb webspace that I haven't even filled 3% of in a year yet and 2100gb Bandwith a month that I will NEVER use. So hey, keep hosting on me for as long as you want.

If you get a domain name I will be happy to host that aswell, giving you full FTP Access and probally Controll Panel (as long as servage don't get really picky.)

Ithink whitesprite is a little upset his computer wasnt fixed and i have no clue what hes on about with the sprites i'll ask him later
but I think he was refering to the server to run the game not a we server thanks anyway dash
we may take you up on your offer for our website though

[Alistair]

I would help offset the costs and maybe even provide you a US server, but there are 2 problems here.

1) I do not have high-speed internet (Not even high-speed dial-up)
2) My parents won't let me get a part time job.

Anyway, keep up the good work. Good to see you are still working on it.

[Blacksprite]

hey thanks for all the offers but we'll figure something out
we it comes time to realease it

[whitesprite]

Ithink whitesprite is a little upset his computer wasnt fixed and i have no clue what hes on about with the sprites i'll ask him later
but I think he was refering to the server to run the game not a we server thanks anyway dash
we may take you up on your offer for our website though

What the hell...

1st: you know exactly what i was talking about todo with the sprites... either that or you are demented.
[for immature people]: calling someone demented is saying they have dementia, a brain problem causing loss of memory, leads into confusion and general insanity. often caused by too much worry, stress and overwork.

2nd: my list of things donations will go towards lists: Server maintenance and a webserver are seperate catagories because although you claim hostultra is so great, 5 antivirus software i have used have said that spyware and dialers were being automatically downloaded from the website (the actual homepage, not the ads page)

3rd: I'm not upset...

4th: I killed a local company by complaining to their franchise head office (closing down as of around may 2007)

5th: I am getting a 150% refund on my computer as demanded by DSE head office, although they said they cant control their franchisees... only their chain stores...

6th: I will be buying a new, better, custom made computer from the money

[Blacksprite]

I didnt read it properly the first time i thought u meant were only having 100 sprites in total

yeah i went of host ultra when they started brining in thoose adds
anyway no one uses the site

[Garethp]

I went there a couple times recently... seem similar too mine, not up-dated in 10-20 years... anyway, I am glad you complained, its good to know us citizens still have the power to shut down whole buisnesses in a day...

[Blacksprite]

I went there a couple times recently... seem similar too mine, not up-dated in 10-20 years... anyway, I am glad you complained, its good to know us citizens still have the power to shut down whole buisnesses in a day...

They do have crappy service
but most things are cheaper there

[Garethp]

You could get a freewebs site and just get a domain name...

[Blacksprite]

Just finished the bag system
all those lovly items you have now can be displayed and used and droped
im just fixing a little bug in the item system
were it just adds another item to your list even if u already have that item in ur bag
so u get a list like this
1 x Potioin
1 x super potion
1x potion
1x potion

You get the idea

[Red1530]

When I tried to run your program, I got a virus warning

(http://us.share.geocities.com/red15302000/Photos/virus.bmp)

[Blacksprite]

When I tried to run your program, I got a virus warning

(http://us.share.geocities.com/red15302000/Photos/virus.bmp)

Hmm thats odd considering you dont have the program!!!
Ithink u must have posted in the worng thread.
Seeing as there is no downlaod link for our game

If this is some lame attempt to discredit the game you need to do more research as the game hasnt been released
as for the bookmarks in the picture above(u see it if you press quote = http://us.share.geocities.com/red15302000/Photos/virus.bmp)
pokemontoa.com doesnt exist
so again If this is some lame attempt to discredit the game you need to do more research
if its not and u have posted in the wrong thread
try making sure u look at the first post or other posts or the originator of this post
but i hardly doubt you could have not noticed

[Blaziken_Boy]

Hmm... You should make it so when you drop an item, it's left on the ground as a pokeball.

Will there be a limit to how many items you can have in a secret base?

[Ruyin]

I agree with blaziken_boy, awesome looking game guys!

[Blacksprite]

Hmm... You should make it so when you drop an item, it's left on the ground as a pokeball.

Will there be a limit to how many items you can have in a secret base?

We already have that in effect, when u drop an item it remains on the map

As for the secret base read back a few posts (or a page) on my comments on not having secret bases
Player housing will be decided when we input player housing (read back a few posts or pages) on whats gunna be in the first release
but if u guys want player housing in the release i understand. but you guys understand that it will delay the release by about 3 months
so let me just finish what im working on now as i think all of you want this out ASAP (As Soon As blacksprite thinks its Plauseable)
then we can decide all that kinda stuff

[Red1530]

Hmm thats odd considering you dont have the program!!!
Ithink u must have posted in the worng thread.
Seeing as there is no downlaod link for our game

If this is some lame attempt to discredit the game you need to do more research as the game hasnt been released
as for the bookmarks in the picture above(u see it if you press quote = http://us.share.geocities.com/red15302000/Photos/virus.bmp)
pokemontoa.com doesnt exist
so again If this is some lame attempt to discredit the game you need to do more research
if its not and u have posted in the wrong thread
try making sure u look at the first post or other posts or the originator of this post
but i hardly doubt you could have not noticed
I got the program from this link. (http://www.kayo.vzz.net/) If this is not your porgram I am soory and wil deleat my original post.

[Samson]

OH JEEZ

you downloaded that internet scam virus thing. it wasn't the program at all. blacksprite, you should really remove that link from any of your profiles/threads...

[Blaziken_Boy]

Oh no. I just ran out of ideas. This is absolutely terrible! Hmm... We need to see how far the game's progressed in %. like 76% or something.

[whitesprite]

I got the program from this link. (http://www.kayo.vzz.net/) If this is not your porgram I am soory and wil deleat my original post.

Clicking on the link "Downloads" on our current host will try to start a download of "Free_Internet_Security_Scan(CLICK_RUN).exe"
this is not the client, this is a virus automatically downloaded by Host Ultra, DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS FILE
As i have noted a few posts above, this webhost tries to download dialers, adware and viruses to your computer (verified by AVG, Norton Antivirus, McAffee, AntiVir & Avast!)

The link "Downloads" should goto a webpage with several different options for downloads (THESE DO NOT CURRENTLY WORK as the client is not yet ready for download)

We currently do not use our website and we will move before release as we do not wish to risk our users data with false downloads.

Samson, i have now removed the link from my sig, i forgot it was in there... i stopped going to that site a few months ago when i got $100 of toll calls in my phone bill... all from my computer with dialers... All because i forgot to unplug my dialup modem after i faxed some doctors certificates to ACC...

and Red1530, I hope the virus didnt do anything to your computer, if it got through, i cant remember what you previously posted...

[off topic]
Merry Christmas everyone, hope you got whatever you wanted from santa

[Red1530]

Clicking on the link "Downloads" on our current host will try to start a download of "Free_Internet_Security_Scan(CLICK_RUN).exe"
this is not the client, this is a virus automatically downloaded by Host Ultra, DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS FILE
As i have noted a few posts above, this webhost tries to download dialers, adware and viruses to your computer (verified by AVG, Norton Antivirus, McAffee, AntiVir & Avast!)

The link "Downloads" should goto a webpage with several different options for downloads (THESE DO NOT CURRENTLY WORK as the client is not yet ready for download)

We currently do not use our website and we will move before release as we do not wish to risk our users data with false downloads.

Samson, i have now removed the link from my sig, i forgot it was in there... i stopped going to that site a few months ago when i got $100 of toll calls in my phone bill... all from my computer with dialers... All because i forgot to unplug my dialup modem after i faxed some doctors certificates to ACC...Thankyou for vindicating me whitesprite and have a Merry Chrismas. I also support the develpoment of this program.

[Blacksprite]

Oh no. I just ran out of ideas. This is absolutely terrible! Hmm... We need to see how far the game's progressed in %. like 76% or something.


Sure well lets see isnt it hard to put a game into a percentage
hmm but this may get ppls hopes up that it would be released soon
if you want to see it you can if not dont
Havent a clue% or 1 % take your pick
jokes were nearly done theres a few more moves to add in and the GUI needs to be completed, not to mention i want a complete overhaul of the communication systems
wild pokemon battles and npc battles
id say maybey 70% done
really percentages have abosolutly no meaning what so ever

also dont go to www.kayo.vzz.net
we dont so u dont it has viruses etc.

Oh and nice seeing the development team wandering around the game client
Note to dev team older versions of the client are no longer supported
an update will be avaliable sometime this week
its xmas so im not going to put it up today

Perhaps al lthe dev team could post everything they have done over the last 6 months
Note any ideas or otherwise information that may reveal secrets and other things, is to be cleared by me before posting

[The Dash]

OH JEEZ

you downloaded that internet scam virus thing. it wasn't the program at all. blacksprite, you should really remove that link from any of your profiles/threads...

Y'See that is why smart people use FireFox.

[Blaziken_Boy]

That's counting mapping? Oh, what's mapping like, is it get a tileset and put tiles everywhere, or is it put this color pixel at coordinates this? If it's like the pixel thing, count me out.

[Red1530]

Y'See that is why smart people use FireFox.I did download it via Firefox and I scanned it for viruses nothing showed up and the I clicked and then problems began.

[MrLunchbox]

hehe. Ah the wonders of the internet.

Thats why I don't bypass firefox filters!
Mine just kept saying "blocked download" or sumthing and "scan computer virus" and I'm thinking. You see these everyday one of the most obvious scams IN THE WORLD.

Ah :)

[Hao]

i got a cool idea i dont know if this is already worked on or something so i am going to say it anyway what about that other people can see youre battle

[Blacksprite]

i got a cool idea i dont know if this is already worked on or something so i am going to say it anyway what about that other people can see youre battle

a good idea we'll see how we go

[MrLunchbox]

hey that actually sounds good :)

*claps*

[Blaziken_Boy]

nobody responded aboot my mapping.

Ideas are flowing into my mind.... Process complete.
How about we select people to film stuff, like Pokemon battles by using a special item called the Filmer's Cam. With it, the cameraman can type comments that show up on the show, and when they hit the Action key next to a battle (in stadiums there's a remote button), they get to watch the battle. And, later on on every TV, you can watch it in pretty sprite form. Example:

Stadium battle: Cyrus Vs. DimJim.
Cameraman turns on Filmer's Cam. A box appears. Into the box he types...
"Here we shall watch a battle between the trainers Cyrus and DimJim in (name) Stadium."
The cameraman hits a button, and he gets a view of the battle. At the end, he types into the box,
"That was from PKNews. Please tune in next time!"
Cameraman then uses Filmer's Cam again and it stops filming. Someone views it to see if it's a quality effort. When he approves it, it's sent onto TVs across Kanto.

How's that?

[Hao]

i dont get it and i think you misunderstand it i meant example:
that you walk past someone that battles and you can watch there battle

[Samson]

that is a good idea...

it would be a nice addition if tournaments/contests are ever held.

[Hao]

what happened to the thing we need people to help with .....
in the first post

and how do your trainer cards for the game look i am willing to make them if you need to i know you need a lot of them but mine are made very quick

[Blacksprite]

i dont get it and i think you misunderstand it i meant example:
that you walk past someone that battles and you can watch there battle

Its a good idea but its a tad reasource heavy
Same with the camerea man thing we may add it in later on down the track

what happened to the thing we need people to help with .....
in the first post

and how do your trainer cards for the game look i am willing to make them if you need to i know you need a lot of them but mine are made very quick

If you can make us a nice trainer card (blank) that would be appreciated although it hase to be square no rounded corners
but i really cant give much time to ansewring alot of questions about how i want it to look as im busy enough as it is

[Hao]

here i made a example just say if you like it:
http://i11.tinypic.com/34h6g01.jpg
i also got it in other colors

and this is the back
http://i12.tinypic.com/30wbg53.jpg
just say if you want to add something

[Blacksprite]

Very nice
Could you remove trades and first hall of fame and replace with money, pokedex

[Hao]

okay i did the premier ball because i saw it everywhere with your game
do you want any certain color of cards

[MrLunchbox]

OOh that looks good :)
well done.

[Blacksprite]

okay i did the premier ball because i saw it everywhere with your game
do you want any certain color of cards

No im not really a creative person
if you could give me a couple of colors say red green blue yellow
or which ever you think looks good

[Blaziken_Boy]

other trainer card colors would be nice. You could make it so that you choose a basic color at the beginning and in a certain town you can buy other color trainer cards.

[Samson]

speaking of things such as the trainer card... how many gyms will there be? to think that only 8 people will be upholding gyms in such a (hopefully) large online community... the trainer card definitely works in the instance that there are just 8, but if there are any more, then i'm thinking a complete renovation of trainer cards must be done.

i know it's too soon for worrying about such things, but it's something to think about (and i'm sure you've already thought about).

[Hao]

yellow(gold) (http://i11.tinypic.com/34h6g01.jpg)
silver (http://i12.tinypic.com/4d50nya.jpg)
pink (http://i12.tinypic.com/46yl4qb.jpg)
green (http://i16.tinypic.com/44k1iko.jpg)
blue (http://i17.tinypic.com/2s0dapd.jpg)
red (http://i16.tinypic.com/4bsde9y.jpg)

and the new back (http://i16.tinypic.com/3ypm82v.jpg)

[Blacksprite]

Thanks celebi
And thank everyone else whos help as its saved me hours and hours of work
unfortunatly over x-mas new year period we have had lots of family
etc so work has been slow but they've all left so im back into it

just finished the drop items thing for some reason it just wasnt working properly so i fixed it all up now im conectrated on using items

im still working on the battle system but i cant procced without some other things so im getting them done

but theres alot of work to do so im just slugging through it
battle system is just waiting on about 25 moves and thoose moves effects but after that we should be good

[Flameguru]

I'm sure everyone here was busy this week. Anyway, this is looking very nice:)

[MrLunchbox]

Getting better every day!

Hmm that reminds me of the old (aust.) better homes and gardens theme song...

"Getting so much better all the time"

[MrLunchbox]

HAPPY NEW YEAR AMERICA. It's nearly there isn't it....?

I know it's new year here...

Unfair! NZ gets new year and christmas before us :( hehe.

Anyway ONTOPIC:
Whats new in the land of POKEMON: TOA?
Probably having a well earned break!

[Blaziken_Boy]

Pokemon TOA=ultimate.
This must make it!


I mean, MUST make it.

We're gonna get 100 visitors on release,then I bet a mod would put this on an announcement and we'd get half of Pokecommunity! That'd be nice, having 100 people on at daytime. We'd need to make a time for the game... PKT can be central american time.
This is soo exciting! Can't wait!

This has NOT been abandoned and won't be. This... shall own. And, if we can get all 4 regions (Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and new region) made and make a new one each time another is made, we'd be the most played Pokemon game on the internet.

You can sell items for real money, like a Shiny Token (when used, makes any Pokemon n your party Shiny) could be $1 USD. And we can have fun events like a christmas party, where you can get the Xmas Shroud (will make any berry tree of yours into a christmas tree) and presents that you can open on Christmas Day PKT.
Will you put in Global Chatting? It's in most MMOGs, but people can send dirty stuff on em.
Are you getting rid of Cut so that people won't cut through grass fields?

Idea for the Strength HM: If a character has not pushed a button for 3 minutes, you can use Strength to push 'em around. It'd be useful if a squad of people came and blocked a city.

What WILL happen if someone blocks a major route? Can someone report them and the police officer send them away, or what? And, what about battles, if someone with a level 100 pokemon forces a level 5 trainer to battle before passing?

You should make trainer ranks based on the battles someone's won, like this:

Newbie:0 battles
Beginner:10 battles
Good:20 battles
Intermediate:30 battles
Great:50 battles
Bronze Rank:75 battles
Silver Rank:85 battles
Gold Rank:100 battles
Expert Rank:150 battles
Master:175 battles+Dex full except for legendaries.

How's that list?

[Blaziken_Boy]

Double post, pure accident

[Hao]

i have a question if you are going kanto only in the beginning and you add the other regions if the game is going well how about for example in kant pokemon electabuzz is a non-evolving pokemon but in diamond an pearl it has a evolution what if i have a lvl 100 electabuzz in the game and the new diamond and pearl region(forgot the name) is add then i cant evolve it any longer (this isn't a good example because electabuzz evolves with an item but i dont know any other pokemon for examples)

and dont do things with real money in the game thats stupid but the strenght idea and rank list is cool

[Blaziken_Boy]

and dont do things with real money in the game thats stupid but the strenght idea and rank list is cool

About the money system, I've played many a free game that has it so if yuo want items to enhance gameplay or just plain collectibles, you pay real money. Anyway, they should be able to SOMEHOW raise money from the game.

If you mean that the evos for kanto pokemon are gonna be in this game, I think that he'll put hem in once he gets the english names.

[Lexemon]

dude this game is made using the program Used for Universal Online did you ask Tayuke permission to use his program or are you Tayuke.

[The Dash]

Oh not this again..
Everything this was made with has been made using Open Source MMORPG engines and Blacksprite's own coding HE DOES NOT NEED PERMISSION.

[~Azura]

Unless he has some kind of double personality... why can't people read.

How is the progress on this going? (Why can't I read?)

[Blacksprite]

For some reason my last posts didnt go through

Ok i'll break up the posts to answer each bit individually

Pokemon TOA=ultimate.
And, if we can get all 4 regions (Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and new region) made and make a new one each time another is made, we'd be the most played Pokemon game on the internet.


Wait hang on lets just get this region done
im sick of everyone adding features to this game which arnt in it
im getting so many PM's about things i have never said
The first release will only FEATURE ONE region
If we decide later to add more then we will but for now Theres just one
and its taking awhile just to add one.

You can sell items for real money,
Since When?


like a Shiny Token (when used, makes any Pokemon n your party Shiny) could be $1 USD.

This is an eniterly free game!


And we can have fun events like a christmas party, where you can get the Xmas Shroud (will make any berry tree of yours into a christmas tree) and presents that you can open on Christmas Day PKT.

Already posted before


Will you put in Global Chatting? It's in most MMOGs, but people can send dirty stuff on em.

Already in the game but only for admins


Are you getting rid of Cut so that people won't cut through grass fields?

Cut was traditionally used to block progress in the single player game in order to complete a cronological series of advents
Currently cut will not feature in the game although may be added later


Idea for the Strength HM: If a character has not pushed a button for 3 minutes, you can use Strength to push 'em around. It'd be useful if a squad of people came and blocked a city.

The server will log any inactive users out
And you will find there are many ulternate routes to get to a certain place

Although there is the debate on eather or not to do the original routes of FR/LG/R/B/Y
or to completly renovate them for a mmo use

Both have advantages and dis advantages
If we stick to the original routes then it will give a strong pokemon feeling, but will not be as exciting as nothing is new we have all explorered thesse routes many times over

or we could completely renovate the routes based on the anime pokemon series
(much of this has alreayd been planed)


What WILL happen if someone blocks a major route? Can someone report them and the police officer send them away, or what?

Police will be monitering all routes
but there are many diffrent ways around a certain point and no one person could block a route it would take at least 30 ppl to block a route completely


And, what about battles, if someone with a level 100 pokemon forces a level 5 trainer to battle before passing?

We have a diffrent system and you will find i have answered this question many times in past posts
At first we were going to use a badge system were you had to have the same number of badges as your selected opponent to battle
But then not every player may wish to become a pokemon trainer.
So the new system is now based on your average pokemon lvl you are currently carring

Next post

i have a question if you are going kanto only in the beginning and you add the other regions if the game is going well how about for example in kant pokemon electabuzz is a non-evolving pokemon but in diamond an pearl it has a evolution what if i have a lvl 100 electabuzz in the game and the new diamond and pearl region(forgot the name) is add then i cant evolve it any longer (this isn't a good example because electabuzz evolves with an item but i dont know any other pokemon for examples)

We'll cross that bridge when we come to it
At the moement we just want to release the game

Anyway, they should be able to SOMEHOW raise money from the game.

Not likely or we'll be facing copywright issues if we start making money of this and nintendo arnt
so its all free

Advertising will be the main source on income but we'll be a non-profit orginisation
advertising wi'll come from ppl visiting the site but
again were just interested in releaseing it for now

dude this game is made using the program Used for Universal Online did you ask Tayuke permission to use his program or are you Tayuke.

There are many more opensource mmo rpg makers out al lwith the same look and feel and really none of them are that great the only useful bit we found was the client server comunitcation functions
but yeah they all have there usfullness

How is the progress on this going? (Why can't I read?)

I cant give a perceantage beacause there really not accurate or even usefull
but i say we have just finished some huge systems
with only a hand full of small systems and nicities before the release and a general tidy up

[Blaziken_Boy]

What I meant with the regions was if we were gonna make more, so thats a maybe.

Can't wait till mapping time.

Will anything new be added into the series (like something that allows a Pokemon to gain a new atrribte like Shiny)?

[Master Charizard]

You should make special pokemon like shinies like Blaziken_Boy said, but make them easier to find than in the real games, like pokemon crater for example. xD

PS: How are my lists working for you? ;)

[MrLunchbox]

Woah people settle down. Read the posts and you will see most of your answers right there in front of you. And, honestly, saying things, not even asking if they were there but really just "putting them in yourself" is really stupid. So now I can go and tell someone that I am the Sultan of Brunei or that Pokemon is actually Barbie with more features.

[Blacksprite]

Will anything new be added into the series (like something that allows a Pokemon to gain a new atrribte like Shiny)?

No

You should make special pokemon like shinies like Blaziken_Boy said, but make them easier to find than in the real games, like pokemon crater for example. xD


Maybe there already there maybey there not

PS: How are my lists working for you?
Good, if you have a moement i need a couple of thinghs changed

[Extreme Coder]

It's nice to see that the game is still going on. I was around when the game was just announced. but I didn't think it would still be alive till now. I'm very glad I was wrong though :D
And, if possible please, would you be able to compile a version of it for Linux? If all of it is made in C or C++ (which I think it is) with no Windows-only components, it won't be hard at all. I'm a coder too, and I can help with recompiling for Linux ;)

Extreme Coder

[Blacksprite]

recompiling for Linux ;)


Hmm definitivly something worth doing im not to familiar with linux systems i'll have to do some more reasearch into it

This may happen at a later date though after the first release

[Hao]

i have 2 questions

1. are you going to let for example haunter who evolves by trading evolve normally because if you let it evolve by trading people will say like i will return it to you but dont do it and that will get annoying

2. can you give an update for how everything is going

[Extreme Coder]

Just remember that if you need anything in the Linux side, I'm there ;)

[Joozt]

You can probably use WINE to emulate Windows to play this game. I don't think there's another way to use VB6 apps on Linux, since it uses the windows API a lot.

[The Dash]

i have 2 questions

1. are you going to let for example haunter who evolves by trading evolve normally because if you let it evolve by trading people will say like i will return it to you but dont do it and that will get annoying

Trading back eliminates the whole point of trading..

[Pandoras_Angel]

In special cases, I think it makes sense. Like just for cases like Onix, Haunter, and Scyther.

[Toadsworth]

I like it, but there's one MMORPG I like more :) Pokemonol.

[Blacksprite]

i have 2 questions

1. are you going to let for example haunter who evolves by trading evolve normally because if you let it evolve by trading people will say like i will return it to you but dont do it and that will get annoying
Only if you want it back i suggest you trade for one of his or her equall leveled pokemon that way hes going to want his pokemon back too
or trade with a freind
or trade with someone whos just looking to full their pokedex

2. can you give an update for how everything is going

Well i just spent about 3 hours yesterday fixing some of the bitblt things
Im working on some more systems now with the item system at top priority atm
samson has just sent me a buch more GUI so now the games getting a feel too it

Other than that everythings going well
Hope to be done with the big systems by end of jan
and hipefully they will be free of as many bugs as i can find

[Pkmn_knight]

whats Pokemonol?

anyway is anything not working in it is my question

[Blacksprite]

anyway is anything not working in it is my question

Ok whats NOT working lets see
well everythings working to a degree
Define not working :D
Jokes ok lets have a look at my to do list

*looking...*
Ok now im depressed
Ok lets see
using items out side of battle
im working on that now

The pokedex is working but not looking good it needs a GUi i dont no if some one can print screen a fire red leaf green pokedex and send it to me it would be great

Full FR/LG moves will be done just after jan 15

Pokemon storage - this will be easy
Item storage this will be easy too

Pokemon hold items another easy thing

EV points well this just needs to be placed in nothing overly exhausting

TM and HMs i have this figured out

[Ruyin]

Here you go Blacksprite, hope it helps:
http://i10.tinypic.com/2q30ug8.jpg
http://i10.tinypic.com/2q30ug8.jpg

Ripped myself. I THINK this is what you were after, or maybe it was this:
http://i11.tinypic.com/4480yf7.jpg
http://i11.tinypic.com/4480yf7.jpg

No need for credit if you you use them.

[RM2K3kid]

This is the FR/LG one.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b264/rm2k3kid/Pokedex1.png
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b264/rm2k3kid/Pokedex.png

[Pkmn_knight]

Ok whats NOT working lets see
well everythings working to a degree
Define not working :D
Jokes ok lets have a look at my to do list

*looking...*
Ok now im depressed
Ok lets see
using items out side of battle
im working on that now

The pokedex is working but not looking good it needs a GUi i dont no if some one can print screen a fire red leaf green pokedex and send it to me it would be great

Full FR/LG moves will be done just after jan 15

Pokemon storage - this will be easy
Item storage this will be easy too

Pokemon hold items another easy thing

EV points well this just needs to be placed in nothing overly exhausting

TM and HMs i have this figured out
good good i guess lol
and also are all pokemon (151) done in game ?
also will people be able to see legendarys but not catch them?

[The Dash]

I presume they aren't all in yet, as for the legendarys I think they are given away at special events/competitions.

[Blaziken_Boy]

Legendaries given out in events.... Good idea.

The game should get music. No Pokemon game is complete without music.
But wait...Pokemon games are usually too tough to put on disk. Will this take 10GB of hard drive space?

[Blacksprite]

Thanks for the Pokedex's guys
All 151 pokemon are in the game
Thats al lthe data for them in game

Special events and competitions sounds about the only way we can restrict them to players
otherwise they wouldnt be rare anymore

Pokemon music is already in the game

An no its not going to take up 10GB's of space
at the moement
the installer file is 7.24mb unzipped
The overall diskspace required is around 86mbs 90 to be safe

[Samson]

for the legendaries: i say, at first, yes, do the competition thing, but only make 1 of each legendary. for instance, zapdos would belong to the champion of some competition, and if another competition is held, that champion will have to give up zapdos if he/she loses. rather than transferring that same zapdos to a new winner of the competition, that zapdos will be *somewhat* deleted from the database, and a new one, at a fair level (maybe 50?), will be rewarded to the winner. so basically, there will be trainers who will be identified as "the girl with the mew" or "the guy with the articuno", and what not.

i just think this'll make it easier and more realistic. besides, i personally think that the idea of multiple legendaries is rediculous. i completely despise legendaries being part of competitive teams because it requires no skill to not only attain legendaries, but to also train them.

[Blacksprite]

i completely despise legendaries being part of competitive teams because it requires no skill to not only attain legendaries, but to also train them.

The legendaries arnt even that great there just rare
More for collectors

Thats a good idea though samson
Never thought of it like that
would be pretty easy to code too

[furrypaws16]

I'm sorry, I've looked through about 200 pages of hacks today, from here, and other sites, looking for other poke games. Has there been a release of this yet? I can't go searching again!! (If I was too stupid to do something like find it on the first page, please be polite about it)

No Mac version, huh? Ah well...*bangs head against keyboard*

[Samson]

The legendaries arnt even that great there just rare
More for collectors

Thats a good idea though samson
Never thought of it like that
would be pretty easy to code too

well now that you say that it's more for collectors, you could always make it that the person's pokedex still indicates that they had that pokemon, just as if it were released into the wild like in the original game.

[Blacksprite]

well now that you say that it's more for collectors, you could always make it that the person's pokedex still indicates that they had that pokemon, just as if it were released into the wild like in the original game.

Well the pokedex would of course still show it having been there
Yea thats the best idea ive herd of so far

I'm sorry, I've looked through about 200 pages of hacks today, from here, and other sites, looking for other poke games. Has there been a release of this yet? I can't go searching again!! (If I was too stupid to do something like find it on the first page, please be polite about it)

No Mac version, huh? Ah well...*bangs head against keyboard*

Its not a hack
(please alot of people deserve more credit than it being a hack)

No mac version yet
it is something we want to do
But bear in mind i use windows

Update
ive been working on the game again this time making it look good seeing now as alot of stuff works now
plus i needed a boost in seeing a nice product
so heres a screen
its been awhile
Note* the gui is getting edit as we speak to add in a few things

http://www.freewebs.com/kayo/Scrennie.PNG

[Samson]

oh wow, that looks awesome. you should've showed me this XDDD... i made the trainer challenge etc window for the wrong spot >___<

[Hao]

i think that samsons idea is good but maybe make it so that you get a trophy at the end of the competion and you can only handle the legendary if you have that trophy and you lose the trophy but keep the legendary and you can only us it again if you get the trophy back
so its fair for everyone

and how are you going to do the competion because if you make it a battle competion someone who just start playing is going to lose
but i've got an idea if you make it like one of that things they have in emerald that you all get a pokemon of the same level

[Me™]

Looks Great! However, the Black back is akward...

[alexkm]

wow this is great i always thought of playing pkmn like this in the past 0_0

waits til it comes out

[MrLunchbox]

Wow great screenshot! Everything is looking a lot neater now! I like all of it I have to say!

[Fblaster]

Hi blacksprite. This is looking very good so far. Maybe you can even rival POL (Pokemon Online). Also, could you post a screen of your battlesystem? It would be nice, to actually See how things are progressing.

Well, good luck, and keep it up ;)

[~Azura]

Very nice screenshot, although the gradient bar on the left is weird...
But I understand that you may change it in the future ^^

[Shiny_Latios]

Now i am itching to play this it looks so immense great work Blacksprite and the rest of the team it looks like this could be the 1st 100% working pokemon MMORPG can't wait :D

[Pkmn_knight]

Trei trei trei bien that is one great screen it looks so good. I wish i knew a way i could help but there is no way i can. I like the idea about legendarys for comps but what if it is held and the player with it is offline,so he/she can't battle.By the way for the back screen i think a sliver outline like on the edges of the chat box around the edges of the screen with black inside. And this isn't going to be the 1st working online pokemon game,it will be the best working online pokemon game. I know it.

[furrypaws16]

I know it's not a hack. I meant I had looked through over 200 pages of hacks today, and then came here to look at the online game.

The whole legendaries thing. How about this; Legendaries are not allowed IN tournaments, but everywhere else. Before battling someone else, check their poke team to see if they have a legendary, or maybe you could put some sort of mark over their head? I like the whole recieving them in tournaments thing. However, could you make some legends really rare to get, like Celebi and Mew or something? Remember how they were rumored to appear in R/S with a 1/268435456 chance? For some, that would actually be easier than winning the comp, because there are some ultimate players that will rip through everyone, if you know what I'm talking about.

Good bye, and good luck!

[Pkmn_knight]

How about legendarys are not allowed for battles except maybe with trainers who have a legendary as well because then people will only get legendarys for completing the pokedex.

[Blacksprite]

oh wow, that looks awesome. you should've showed me this XDDD... i made the trainer challenge etc window for the wrong spot >___<

Sorry about that i hope this gives you some ideas
I was pretty tired last night and not thinking very well


and how are you going to do the competion because if you make it a battle competion someone who just start playing is going to lose

Well if you just started you may wish to avoid big competitions
but we'll proably tier it
have 4 catagories
pkmn lvls 1 to 21 22 to 41 or something like that

Looks Great! However, the Black back is akward...
Were still editing and progressing
i mean you cant expect us to get the gui perfect in one go it'll take time and im sure we'll come up with some more ideas and it will get better with everything we do

wow this is great i always thought of playing pkmn like this in the past 0_0
waits til it comes out
Look forward to seeing the day

Wow great screenshot! Everything is looking a lot neater now! I like all of it I have to say!
Yeah it is the games starting to feel like its coming togther
im glad we focused on coding first then on the pretty gfx stuff
as it means it all come togther nicely

Also, could you post a screen of your battlesystem? It would be nice, to actually See how things are progressing.
Theres a desgin view of the battle system on the previos page
but like i said we have mainly focused on the code of battle system (which is done now :D)
and now im gunna focus on the pretty things
so give me a week or two and i'll put up a worthwhile battle system screenshot

Very nice screenshot, although the gradient bar on the left is weird...
But I understand that you may change it in the future ^^
Yea my main prority is just getting a gui atm
its easily updated after release and wont require the user to redownload anything huge
just a few Kbs

Now i am itching to play this it looks so immense great work Blacksprite and the rest of the team it looks like this could be the 1st 100% working pokemon MMORPG can't wait :D
To me it'll never be complete

Trei trei trei bien that is one great screen it looks so good. I wish i knew a way i could help but there is no way i can. I like the idea about legendarys for comps but what if it is held and the player with it is offline,so he/she can't battle.By the way for the back screen i think a sliver outline like on the edges of the chat box around the edges of the screen with black inside. And this isn't going to be the 1st working online pokemon game,it will be the best working online pokemon game. I know it.

A silver border you say we'll see how we go

I know it's not a hack. I meant I had looked through over 200 pages of hacks today, and then came here to look at the online game.

The whole legendaries thing. How about this; Legendaries are not allowed IN tournaments, but everywhere else. Before battling someone else, check their poke team to see if they have a legendary, or maybe you could put some sort of mark over their head? I like the whole recieving them in tournaments thing. However, could you make some legends really rare to get, like Celebi and Mew or something? Remember how they were rumored to appear in R/S with a 1/268435456 chance? For some, that would actually be easier than winning the comp, because there are some ultimate players that will rip through everyone, if you know what I'm talking about.

Good bye, and good luck!

Yes thats why we'd have the tier system

[Pkmn_knight]

Do you have any screenshots of the housing system in action and i like the looks of the maps, how many maps are done?

[Blacksprite]

Do you have any screenshots of the housing system in action and i like the looks of the maps, how many maps are done?

The player housing system will not feature in the first release
Nor are we focused on maps right now that will be the last thing we do (it makes sense really) and i dont want to do all the maps myself so either statnio or whitesprite will be heading up the mapping department, includng training, hiring etc.
beacause of my insane ideas to add things to the map system

[Pkmn_knight]

What insane ideas can't be any more insane than ideas i have.
Well what about emoctions like the players sprite whatever you call it smiling,looking sad and being tired because of running.

Oh and whitesprite can i map?

P.s before i forget to ask will the be a area where the tournments and festivals are held?
are there festivals or will there be?

[Hao]

do you need any help with spriting because i really want to do something with pokemon sprites and haven't got any idea what
and how does the mapping go's because i want to help if i can do it(but you would probally dont need it for awhile because you said that for ehh... 14 times maybe 15)

little offtopic: Originally Posted by furrypaws16
because there are some ultimate players that will rip through everyone, if you know what I'm talking about.
i know and i will b one of them

[Blacksprite]

What insane ideas can't be any more insane than ideas i have.
Well what about emoctions like the players sprite whatever you call it smiling,looking sad and being tired because of running.

Oh and whitesprite can i map?

P.s before i forget to ask will the be a area where the tournments and festivals are held?
are there festivals or will there be?

Where not looking for mappers yet
i will notify the forum when we do
The map editor doesnt have everyhting in it yet so there would be no point mapping yet
its still missing wild pokemon battles etc

do you need any help with spriting because i really want to do something with pokemon sprites and haven't got any idea what
and how does the mapping go's because i want to help if i can do it(but you would probally dont need it for awhile because you said that for ehh... 14 times maybe 15)


no dont need spriting of pokemon right now

Where not looking for mappers yet
i will notify the forum when we do
The map editor doesnt have everyhting in it yet so there would be no point mapping yet

[furrypaws16]

i know and i will b one of them


-_-...tell me, have you played competitivly, like with friends, or maybe even in a tournament. Have you netbattled in any sort? It's just, I've seen so many "Ultimate Trainers" realize that they were ultimate ingame, because their pokes were all sweepers with moves like Fire Blast and Blizzard, or they used all sweepers. For example, me and my friend were playing pokemon. He goes on telling me that he has the best pokemon ever, and it can destroy anything. It's a level 100 Groudon, with the moves Fire Blast, Fissure, Earthquake, and Sunny Day. I said ok, and sent out my well trained, 28-31 IV, perfect EVs for the pokemon, Dragonite at level 85. Guess who won?

No offense if you really are good at Comp. Battling, I'm just tired of people stating to be the best only because they can beat the ingame E4 (which isn't much).

On Topic: You built this entirely from scratch, huh? That's pretty cool. Anyways, will there be something like a search trainer function, and then when you click on one of the search results, it will show you their current pokemon team, levels, attacks, names, and all? That's be pretty cool.

[Blacksprite]

It's a level 100 Groudon, with the moves Fire Blast, Fissure, Earthquake, and Sunny Day. I said ok, and sent out my well trained, 28-31 IV, perfect EVs for the pokemon, Dragonite at level 85. Guess who won?

will there be something like a search trainer function, and then when you click on one of the search results, it will show you their current pokemon team, levels, attacks, names, and all? That's be pretty cool.

And then you get the trainers that think that just beacause the know about evs they have to show it off

i know and i will b one of them
Its called a joke not some of you might not be familair

as for the pokemon team and lvls y would you bother battling if you knew al lthere pokemon team lvls attacks etc

No challenge or surprise in that nor any fun

Only trainers who are insecure about there own abilities would want that
and like to brag about it

Dont expect to win everytime in this game its not like battling npc's like i nthe single playergame where they have to nearly have to win to progress the game or what woul the point in buying it be

Expect to loose 50% of the time and that its not the end of the world
its all apart of the game

Furthermore do not brag or boast or put down any other person in this thread
i belive there is a thread for your pokemon elsewhere
Beacause this thread is dedicated to the Pokemon TOA game

[whitesprite]

i dont want to do all the maps myself so either statnio or whitesprite will be heading up the mapping department, includng training, hiring etc.



Oh and whitesprite can i map?

Blacksprite, after seeing my maps for viridian forest, do you think it is wise that i head mapping?

Just got my new computer (since i returned the one that exploded) and i am right back into the sprites, I have done a lot more, havent numbered them yet, so i cant tell you all how many i have done. should have an update as soon as i stop long enough to number them.

[Samson]

your computer exploded? O__O

[Blacksprite]

Blacksprite, after seeing my maps for viridian forest, do you think it is wise that i head mapping?

Just got my new computer (since i returned the one that exploded) and i am right back into the sprites, I have done a lot more, havent numbered them yet, so i cant tell you all how many i have done. should have an update as soon as i stop long enough to number them.

good to se your eye brows grew back XD

What do you think of the latest screen shot whitesprite?

[furrypaws16]

Well, after watching so many kids say that, and then fail, it's really hard to tell when someone is joking or not. I'm not trying to put anyone down, I'm just warning you, online, if the other player actually knows what they're doing, you will lose more than 50% of the time. However, what is the point of challenge, if you find out that you can't win because it's so challenging from the level difference? There are three types of suprises. A happy, joyous suprise (like a suprise party), a gloating suprise (you have a gun, and your opponent doesn't), and a nasty suprise (Your gun is not loaded, and your opponent has a knife). Besides, you would not have to choose to view their pokes.

About the whole EV's, I am not showing off. I'm trying to explain that without proper EV and IV training, you will get thrashed. Some kids don't care about EV's/IV's, because they think with their legendaries, they are undefeatable. Then they go online, unaware of their complete cockiness. I apologize if I look like I was showing off. Good luck with the game, anyways.

[Scales]

Hey I have a question. Will you be able to battle gym leaders. And what of the elite four? As well what will the battle system be like? Like the games?

[Cosmic Tyrant]

I have a question as well. Will you be needing any spriting help as far as trainers go. I myself an a semi-professional spriter, so I can help big-time in that catagory, and if it so happens that I do get stuck, I know quite a few other spriters, so If you need trainer spriting help, I'm your man!

[Captain Arcane]

Woahoa, talk about awsome. Run your own stall, different playable characters!
But one thing........only 151 pokemon, aaaaaaaaaaah.
I will still play it, but more pokemon would mean more variety, funner battles. But oh well, ya can't have everything.

Anyway, keep up the good work, your doing a great job.

[Hao]

sorry black sprite if i say something wrong
but wouldnt it be wise of you to mak a Frequently.Asked.Question(F.A.Q) in the first post because you keep on seeing the same questions

is it oke if i answer the questions i read almost the whole thread anyway

@ Grim: yes its in the thread somewhere dont know where
@ Captain Arcane: the 151 pokemon are just for the beggining if the game goes well they will do more pokemon evently

sorry if i didn't answer a question well

[Blacksprite]

Thanks celebi for answering
i thought people might search the thread first

but yes i will make a FAQ (if anyone still reads the first post of topics anymore)

let me answer the posts with a little more detail

@Grim Yes you can battle gym leaders earn badges etc its just like the single player games in that respect
and battleing is as close as possable to the games
ie: pvp battling is like battlinh someone using a link cable expect you can use items and it earns you exp

@captian arcane pokemon a genrally diffrent from one anotheranyway by personalities etc
theres alot of information to input into the game for just 151 let alone more
and we have considered this very carefully, we havent put in every idea that we thought was cool or fun to have
we thought about all our ideas very carefully and the impact it would have on the game enviroment
having more than 151 pokemon in the one region would over populate that region with pokemon
not to mention greatly impact game preformance

[Naas02]

Sup, Looks like yall are still goin strong which is good to see. I have a small suggestion there are some pokemon that are not legendary or very difficult to catch at that but give the competitive battling scene very standard and most of the time boring, its the reason I quit battling competitively, theres also certain move combinations and traits that are not counterable (this coming from 7-8 years of competitive battling experience, since the first PBS) and have been banned from all major tournaments, you should really think about changing the rarity of certain pokemon, and adjusting some of the move, for example why does every pokemon learn double team? Have you ever seen an evasion battle? It kinda makes it difficult for battling to keep a variety of moves pokemon flowing when you have only a handful of pokemon with dominating stats and overpowering moves (blissey,weezing,snorlax,skarmory)....just a thought, in fact whenever you get far enough along to worry about things like that Id be glad to share all of the information Ive been comllecting from competitive battling and building gym leader/elite 4 teams for mmorpg's for the passed few years just to see to it every player in the world isnt runnin around with a fishlax and 5 double resters *shivers*



p.s. ALOT of the original moves from R/B/Y went through major changes between Yellow and Emerald so how do you plan on handling that, if you have the engine running like R/S/E and only nave r/b/y pokmeon you could seriously damage game balance R/S/E Curselax>R/B/Y that strategy's not even supposed to exist yet, not to mention all the pokemon with levitate and natural cure I can see Torrent hydro cannons and blazed blastburns flying all over the place.....volt takle...."shivers" youd make pikachu a god

[Samson]

well naas, your post is all over the place, but i'll try to consult the fact that you think this game will be anything like NetBattle. on NB, you can choose any pokemon you like with any and every properties to them without doing any previous training. let's say you get a snorlax somehow... you'll have to train it just as if it were in-game. you'll have to train it yourself for EV's and what not, so really, there's no gaurantee that your pokemon will be EXACTLY the way you want them to be, unlike NB. that's why i despise NB. it's rediculous how NB players go around trying to redicule those who play in-game, and yet, they aren't even putting in any effort into TRAINING their teams. so NO, it won't be at all like that.

besides, i'm not sure how the TM and Item system will work, but i doubt that everyone will have immediate access to every move and item, thus making it more of a challenge for those who think they'll bring their NB strategies into the game.

[Blacksprite]

TMs wont be able to be brought whenever you like and each pokemart will have a stock limit if they dont have it you cant buy it and tms will be quite rare

EDITED FOR UPDATES

We'll a whole day of working and thats the item system done
now im working on pokemon storage

[Blaziken_Boy]

Whee, near mapping time! That means we're one step closer to being done! This game could be the game to play while waiting for Pokemon Diamond and Pearl. And, when it comes out, we can start work on mapping the Johto region. Then, when Nintendo announces they're making the next Pokemon game, we start Hoenn. When the next one is released, we can go to the D/P region work, then when Nintendo announces the next game, we finish whatever's after D/P's region. Then, every time they release a new game, we can start work on that region. Every Pokemon fan that has a computer will want this game.

Mapping seems fun. This could be the only completed pokemon MMORPG in existance.Well, one that has more features than Pokemon Crater. It would be awesome if right when this game was done and uploaded, someone made this a GLOBAL announcement. BSP might have to get a part-time job to pay for bandwith, though.


So TMs will be rare? What about HMs?

[weedrew2k7]

you'll probably find them or the leaders that allow you to use them giv em to you when you beat them

[Samson]

as he said, you'll be able to buy them, but they're rare and limited. so unless you plan on standing near the market 24/7, you should just depend on your pokemon's natural moveset throughout most of the game. besides, there is a drop/pick up item setting apparently in the works, so there may be a possibility of tm's found along the game's maps, but i bet only in exclusive areas.

[weedrew2k7]

iim talking about HM's not TM's

[Blacksprite]

Whee, near mapping time!
Say's who?

And, when it comes out, we can start work on mapping the Johto region. Then, when Nintendo announces they're making the next Pokemon game, we start Hoenn. When the next one is released, we can go to the D/P region work, then when Nintendo announces the next game, we finish whatever's after D/P's region. Then, every time they release a new game, we can start work on that region.


One word

No
To all people reading this thread im telling you now this is not promised
were are currently not looking at making more regions at the moment

Mapping seems fun.
its not XD

someone made this a GLOBAL announcement.
Hold up lets get the game finished first

BSP might have to get a part-time job to pay for bandwith, though.
says who i could just only let ppl in my town play

So TMs will be rare? What about HMs?
first question you have asked in the entire post
i belive samson answers it nicely


you'll probably find them or the leaders that allow you to use them giv em to you when you beat them
no u dont get them from gym leaders

besides, there is a drop/pick up item setting apparently in the works, so there may be a possibility of tm's found along the game's maps, but i bet only in exclusive areas.
that systems finished

im talking about HM's not TM's
it applys to both, but you can swim in shallow water and boats can take you to remote places

[furrypaws16]

!!

Only in your town? That seems really...limited. How are we supposed to bug test it and support it, if we don't even play it? I know you didn't say it was going to be permanent, but still...it scares me.

[Blacksprite]

!!

Only in your town? That seems really...limited. How are we supposed to bug test it and support it, if we don't even play it? I know you didn't say it was going to be permanent, but still...it scares me.

A Joke furry
a joke

it was a JOKE in response to blazkin boy saying i have to get a job to pay for him to play

[Blacksprite]

Fingers crossed this post goes through
i hope when i log on i tomorrow i dont have a buch of dubble posts

Mapping is difficult takeing a day just to do a map
but easyier now thta we have a multiple tile select feature
unfortuanatly all of whitesprites and statnios maps may have to be deleted as i just added the delayed warp thing and im not 100% sure if the old maps will reintergrate with the new map system

nice to see that everyones still posting here you are giving us alot to think about

EDIT:
Hmm ok after creating pokemon storage it appears that the collection of variables for all the pokemon you can possable have exceeds the allowed windows limit
im in the prosses of creating a workaround now but this is definitivly going to slow me down

its looking good now but i may finish it off tomorrow as im getting tired and i dont think of everything when im tired

[furrypaws16]

Sorry...

See I've got friends who moved away, and they made a couple online games...only to realize they couldn't afford anyone outside of their neighborhood to play. Wah.

Good luck with the funding, I'd donate...if I had money to donate.

Also...how much does it cost monthley to uphold a game like this? If you don't want to tell, that's fine with me.

[Blacksprite]

Also...how much does it cost monthley to uphold a game like this? If you don't want to tell, that's fine with me.

I dont have a problem telling you hopw much its going to cost
i'll cost it at the bottom of this post

Well after this morning fiasco with the pokemon storage system the day just got worse

Fisrt off the pokemon storage system just wasnt saving or loading to a players database file
then when i got it working i gave it a quick test and soon realised that loading 29952 variables just for the pokemon storage system was excessive and it lagged the server so inclreadable that it nearly went non responsive
and then i thought what if 10 ppl logged on or off that the same time
so i did some quick thinking slapped myself i nthe head a realized y load that much data in the first place

so now it only loads the requested box on request
greatly improving server response time and reducing the need for more system reasources

after that was out of the way 3 hours later
i decided to improve the telporting (switching of maps) maybey called warp in the RM series

to my utter disapointment nothing i did seemed to have any effect (except an odd mapping insident which i cant explain in words)
so im gunna ask geo what he thinks should be done

then i commpleted the acces requirement block
pretty much only people with moderating abilities and up could pass
we may find it usefull for getting places quickly or just to get to an mod only area
it was the onlything which seemed to work today so while alot of work was dont not alot was acomplished
but the game is running more bug free and quicker and well running.
so we live to figure it out another day
probably tomorrow
meanwhile im now finishing up the pokemon storage system and adding little bits in etc

all the maps whitesprite had done went to the recyle bin ;(
which is why i say were not looking for mappers right now

Edit: nearly forgot the costings

Internet connection fee 30GBs transfer a month we may need more but we'll see how we go speed likely to only reach 3.5mbs upstream and downstream (seems to vary with the weather)
$99.95
static IP
Free
Line rent
$44.95
thats all the things i can think of a month
it may be cheaper to get an overseas dedicated server america or else where

Total $144.90 a month
USD$ 103.34 a month
Pound$ 53.54
Yen$12433.87
Euro$$79.54

[MrLunchbox]

Thats in NZ dollars right? Thats about the same as $AUD isnt it.

[Blaziken_Boy]

It's lucky we don't have to pay, even if it was only $1 a month. My mom says I can't because I already have Active Worlds for $6.99 a month.

Did anyone already do Route 1? I wanted to cause it'd be easy. You see, Blaziken_Boy=lazy.

Wait-you MADE THE MAPPING SYSTEM? Woah.... Okay, I think I'll do... let's say... Celadon Shopping Mall? Yeah, because you made the mapping system and the game rocks in the screenshots. The screenshots rock. My socks fell off because of the screenshots.

Will you ban the words like 'lol,omg' that are related to bad words?

And also, you need to check EVERYTHING involving variables (Moves, PKMN, Box limit, Money) because if they're faulty then they must be fixed immediately.

What kind of main programmer are you gonna be? One that always gets on in a mod place, one that only gets on in the biggest events, or are you going to be the VERY rare kind, the one that helps newbies and hangs out with people you never really knew registered, the one like everyone else? The last one I have yet to see, but I hope you'll be that one.

After a thorough check for today, make sure everyone's working at a reasonable speed and doing quality work, you can then start coding. Check the code right after you finish something, because a small typo can lead to a big bug. If you already do this, then that's great.You'll need no help from me if you do.

Check my friends list to remember what I said on my first post (after the boat thing). 'Tis true.

[r0ckZ]

Hmmm... cool game... wel the best name I think that would be is Pokemon Linked... but Pokemon Connected is cool to ;)

[Blacksprite]

Thats in NZ dollars right? Thats about the same as $AUD isnt it.
There pretty close
It's lucky we don't have to pay, even if it was only $1 a month. My mom says I can't because I already have Active Worlds for $6.99 a month.

Did anyone already do Route 1? I wanted to cause it'd be easy. You see, Blaziken_Boy=lazy.

all the maps whitesprite had done went to the recyle bin ;(
which is why i say were not looking for mappers right now

Wait-you MADE THE MAPPING SYSTEM?
how else do you think it was made?

Will you ban the words like 'lol,omg' that are related to bad words?

yes called a chat filter

And also, you need to check EVERYTHING involving variables (Moves, PKMN, Box limit, Money) because if they're faulty then they must be fixed immediately.

Faulty Variables?
You dont get faulty variables all variables work perfectly
it just depends if the programmer has called it right

What kind of main programmer are you gonna be? One that always gets on in a mod place, one that only gets on in the biggest events, or are you going to be the VERY rare kind, the one that helps newbies and hangs out with people you never really knew registered, the one like everyone else? The last one I have yet to see, but I hope you'll be that one.
What kinda question is this
I'll give a Multichoice answer so people can choose responses that best suit them
A: None of your business
B: All of the above
C: Probably mostly moderate i nthe beggining trying to orginise people make sure there following the rules and watch the mappers etc
aftyer that i'll probablyt go ad play the game and see if i can see any bugs, and get feed back fom trainers

After a thorough check for today, make sure everyone's working at a reasonable speed and doing quality work, you can then start coding.
I have time to do that? even with the diffrent time zones.

Check the code right after you finish something, because a small typo can lead to a big bug.
it tells me if theres a typo

If you already do this, then that's great.You'll need no help from me if you do.

Help?
Hmmm... cool game... wel the best name I think that would be is Pokemon Linked... but Pokemon Connected is cool to ;)

Pokemon connected seems to be in the lead
but were still undecided

[~Azura]

Since when 'lol' and 'omg' are bad words?
And when he says faulty variables, I think he means you should have no bugs in your programming, such as people with 7 pokemons in a party, or more then 4 moves, something like that.


=)

[Blaziken_Boy]

I mean stuff like wtf (hope that's appropriate for the thread).

lol i stoopid i liek give help 2 ppl who no what they r doing bcuz i think they mite b messing up

I feel like that now. Anyway, I'm still doing Celadon Shopping Center. Maybe the Pokemon Mansion too.

About the last thing I'll ask- You gonna make credits with every mapper's name on it? For me, put "DimJim-'stoopid dood',mapper" please. Of course, it would get annoying after a while for me to walk through town with everyone typing "Hey, it's the stoopid dood!"

Hmm.... You should make something where if someone has P$1,000,000, they can give it to you for you mappers to make an HQ so they can make a club/guild/clan/whatever. It would be a nice addition and might improve people's ratings on the game.

[Lipega]

wow fore how long have you work on this game guys... i reamber when this started it was when i start making my own mmo pokemon in flash... never got to beta whit that one.

hope i can see this game get to the deadline... and that you dont drown in stupid posts like this one...

take care

[Krobelus]

Hmmm... Ive been away for some time now, and its starting to look good, what are the final things you need to do before it is playable?

[whitesprite]

Anyway, I'm still doing Celadon Shopping Center. Maybe the Pokemon Mansion too.
Just so you kn