Emulation - Nintendo DS

[Drew]

Okay... so at first I didn't feel right downloading a DS emulator, but I was curious as to whether you could actually play DS games on a computer, without the help of the touch-screen.
So I downloaded one, it goes by the name 'DeSmuME'.
I also downloaded Pokemon: Red Dungeon as a test to see if it could play the games....

Now, I dunno if its the game, or the emulator... because whenever I open up the game on it, it won't read it and the screen just stays blue, and nothing happens...

Is there something else needed to make the Emulator work, or is it just the ROM?

[Alistair]

It is probably the emulator. It most likely does not support commercial ROMs.

[Drew]

Yeah, I figured that out, and downloaded another one called 'Ensata', theres also one called 'iDeaS'. They're the best ones, I guess, but they can only play certain ROMS so far... I'm hoping Ensata will work... ><;;

[Haruki Hanai]

From my knowledge, no emulator can play commercial games properly.

[Alistair]

Actualy Wolt, Ensata can play a handful, but that is because the emulator was ripped directly from the DS development kit.

[FauxCivility]

post blanked by Wolt: Please refrain from irrelevant comments.

[Haruki Hanai]

Ah, I didn't realise that. But I'd comment on the legality of doing so.

[FauxCivility]

There was absolutely no reason to blank that post. And you wonder how PC gets a Wiki article like that.

I'm simply saying, it's best not to mess around with emulators anyways, unless you're testing programs coded from scratch. Commercial roms are illegal anyways.

[Aon]

In a board titled, ahem... "Rom Hacking and Emulation" debating wether you should use rom and emulators or not is not going to go down very well.

[Haruki Hanai]

There was absolutely no reason to blank that post. [s-highlight]And you wonder how PC gets a Wiki article like that.[/s-highlight]

I'm simply saying, it's best not to mess around with emulators anyways, unless you're testing programs coded from scratch. Commercial roms are illegal anyways.
Actually, before you assume how things are done around here, I've been deleting such posts for a long time. That post was purely bashing emulators in such discussion. The red highlighted line in your quote shows what would've been more acceptable to say. And, allow me to reiterate on something - use points like [s-highlight]highlighted in yellow[/s-highlight] against anybody again and a warning will be issued.

[spike6958]

Okay... so at first I didn't feel right downloading a DS emulator, but I was curious as to whether you could actually play DS games on a computer, without the help of the touch-screen.
So I downloaded one, it goes by the name 'DeSmuME'.
I also downloaded Pokemon: Red Dungeon as a test to see if it could play the games....

Now, I dunno if its the game, or the emulator... because whenever I open up the game on it, it won't read it and the screen just stays blue, and nothing happens...

Is there something else needed to make the Emulator work, or is it just the ROM?

well first pokemon red dungon is a gameboy advance game the ds one is pokemon blue dungon so that might be part of the problem another could be that the emulator dosn't support it couse ive cheacked out that emulator and they had a very long list of what games work and what games dont work on it

[Scizz]

I don't feel like typing this up all again, so I'll just point you to this (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=65422) thread and quote the post I made there, as it pretty much explains the current situation with DS Emulators.

That's not entirelly accurate there are a couple that play commercial games there is one that plays a few of them actually but it is slow on most games but on some others they play nicelyWell, actually...no.
Out of 10 commercial games, there might be one Emulator which can eventually load a few of them.
The other will either crash after you loaded the ROM, will just show you a black screen,or let you get to the titlescreen.
If you are lucky, you can emulate a game, with a lot of glitched graphics.

To name one popular Emulator: iDeaS.
As you can see in the iDeaS compatibility list (http://members.dodo.com.au/oldfields/iDeaS/0000.htm), most of the games are not playable.
The farest as you can get is to emulate a game with glitchy graphics, but that's not what I understand as "playing".

I don't need to name a list of other GPL emulators, as they have almost the same lists. (Maybe some others are able to load some other games til the title screen, but that's it.)

The only exception to that is the Ensata Emulator, which is illegally ripped off from Nintendo's Dev Kits.
This one actually can "play" a few games.
But all of them are slow (and/or glitchy). Which, again, is not what I understand as playing.

Ensata compatibility list:
0010 - Cool 104 Joker & Setline (J) (Wario) - Yes Works perfectly
0024 - Robots (E) (Trashman) - Yes Works but slowly
0029 - GoldenEye - Rogue Agent (U) (Trashman) - Yes Works but slowly
0038 - Ping Pals (U) (GBXR) - Yes Works perfectly
0054 - Tiger Woods PGA Tour (E) (GBXR) - Yes Works but slowly
0059 - Robots (U) (Trashman) - Yes Works but slowly
0065 - Tiger Woods PGA Tour (U) (SpankMe) - Yes Works but slowly
So, the things that are actually playable are, as I said, either Homebrews, Demos or function tests.
It will take some time until commercial games can be played.
This should clear things up.
Commercial games (with 1 or 2 exceptions eventually) are not yet playable.

[Drew]

It said they were... but I feel bad messing with a DS emulator.... it doesn't seem right to me... x__x

I'm going to delete Encata for that reason, and just the fact that I dont wanna take a chance on messing up the comp... @__@

This thread can be closed. My question was answered.