View Full Version : Suggestions/Ideas: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Starter Pokemon
Ash_Pokemaster
May 14th, 2006, 04:19 PM
As we all know, every trainer is choosing among three Pokemon with balance in weaknesses and resistances among them. The tradition says Fire, Water and Grass types. What do you think starters should be like this time?
-----------------------------------------------------
In my point of view, the tradition could be continued. Fire Water and Grass are three balanced types with alike attacks. All of them are most of times usefull for trainers.
Another idea would be doing something new for Pokemon. Probably a s cycle of Fighting - Psychic- Dark types would be interesting as well. What do you think?
Usohachii_Pot
May 14th, 2006, 04:29 PM
It'll obviously be Fire/Water/Grass. As the saying goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Kenji~
May 14th, 2006, 11:57 PM
It will be Fire/Water/Grass as always, although it should be something different.
I think Fighting/Psychic/Dark is the only other 3 pokemon cycle, since Ground/Electric/Water doesn't work exacty right, since Ground isn't effected by Electricity.
Kurosaki Ichigo
May 15th, 2006, 01:59 AM
Wouldn't it be Rock, Water and Electricity, because Rock Is weak to Water but Restistant to Electric, Water is strong against to Rock but weak to Electric, Electric is strong against Water but weak against Rock, anyway i think my Grass/Fire/Water starters in my 4th gen comic are quite good Starters.
halfdead
May 15th, 2006, 02:44 AM
excuse me if im wrong but wasnt there something about bieng alot of fused types or mixed type pokemon in the game like strange ones for instance luccario: steel fighting thing if im wrong im sorry but if i am right then dont you think the starters will take some play in this, it would make them more unique then any other of there main type in the game say if they gave them a dual type that no other pokemon had in the game
Pika_blue
May 15th, 2006, 02:56 AM
Lucario is a legendery. and, no, there are only a FEW new types, not loads.
halfdead
May 15th, 2006, 05:02 AM
thanx man you juss confirmed something i wasnt sure about for a while well there aint much to say about the starters cept i know im going to be happy with them no matter what just off of sheer anticapation
Zone
May 15th, 2006, 06:55 AM
Lucario is a legendery. and, no, there are only a FEW new types, not loads.
Diamond and Pearl will introduce no new types.
Ash_Pokemaster
May 15th, 2006, 09:38 AM
Diamond and Pearl will introduce no new types.
Exactly. However, like Nintendo has comfirm, there will be new type combinations
~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~
May 15th, 2006, 06:12 PM
I really do love the tradintion with the Fire/Grass/Water A.K.A the famous Triangle. But I want all 3 starters to have another combination.
:t094:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~
bluestorm
May 16th, 2006, 08:05 AM
Lets see.... Fire/Ground maybe a lion pokemon **crosses fingers**
A water/fighting! please an otter pokemon!!!!!! And then a grass/ghost pokemon. Maybe a kangaroo or bush baby??? I dunno..
Jorah
May 16th, 2006, 11:15 AM
Wouldn't it be Rock, Water and Electricity, because Rock Is weak to Water but Restistant to Electric, Water is strong against to Rock but weak to Electric, Electric is strong against Water but weak against Rock, anyway i think my Grass/Fire/Water starters in my 4th gen comic are quite good Starters.
Electric attacks are super effective against water, but doesn't water attacks act normally against electric? It would kind of break the cycle.
And if the 3 starter pokemon are going to have double types, I don't think it should interfere with the grass/fire/water cycle thing. Say if the water one was also flying, it would disrupt the thing where they're strong against one, but weak against the other.
Smarties-chan
May 16th, 2006, 01:44 PM
I think Fighting/Psychic/Dark is the only other 3 pokemon cycle, since Ground/Electric/Water doesn't work exacty right, since Ground isn't effected by Electricity.
That totally wouldn't work. The Dark type Pokémon would have an unfair advantages against the Psychic, seeing as it's immune against Psychics, the Grass > Water > Fire circle worked well because the Pokémon weren't immune to eachother's types, only resistant
Wouldn't it be Rock, Water and Electricity, because Rock Is weak to Water but Restistant to Electric, Water is strong against to Rock but weak to Electric, Electric is strong against Water but weak against Rock, anyway i think my Grass/Fire/Water starters in my 4th gen comic are quite good Starters.
Since when have Rock types been resistant against Electric? Please get your facts straight.
I once figured out a perfect type cycle (apart from Grass > Water > Fire), but I just can't remember it now <.<
And either way, I think Nintendo should stick to the Grass/Water/Fire starters. Not only are they types that will all prove to be useful in a team, but they also make the perfect cycle.
Zone
May 16th, 2006, 01:45 PM
Electric attacks are super effective against water, but doesn't water attacks act normally against electric? It would kind of break the cycle.
And if the 3 starter pokemon are going to have double types, I don't think it should interfere with the grass/fire/water cycle thing. Say if the water one was also flying, it would disrupt the thing where they're strong against one, but weak against the other.
Your second point is irrelevant. The water starters can learn Ice Beam with TMs.
Kurosaki Ichigo
May 16th, 2006, 03:35 PM
Rock is ^_~, if you play any game or watch any Pokemon anime Pikachu can never make a dent on Onix, so yeah, i rest my case.
Jorah
May 16th, 2006, 05:51 PM
Your second point is irrelevant. The water starters can learn Ice Beam with TMs.
Learning different type TMs isn't the same as being a different type. If one of them did have a second type that disrupted the fire/water/grass cycle, like for some reason they could have the water pokemon have a second type of flying, it would dirupt the cycle because the grass attacks would only have a normal effect on the water/flying pokemon instead of being super effective.
Rock is ^_~, if you play any game or watch any Pokemon anime Pikachu can never make a dent on Onix, so yeah, i rest my case.
Onix is a rock/ground pokemon. Because it's ground electric has no effect, not because it's rock. Aerodactyl is a rock/flying pokemon and you can use electric attacks against it.
Zone
May 16th, 2006, 06:25 PM
Learning different type TMs isn't the same as being a different type. If one of them did have a second type that disrupted the fire/water/grass cycle, like for some reason they could have the water pokemon have a second type of flying, it would dirupt the cycle because the grass attacks would only have a normal effect on the water/flying pokemon instead of being super effective.
Onix is a rock/ground pokemon. Because it's ground electric has no effect, not because it's rock. Aerodactyl is a rock/flying pokemon and you can use electric attacks against it.
I suppose that is correct.
BrownEyedGirl
May 16th, 2006, 06:36 PM
Hmmm. I wouldn't mind Diamond/Pearl giving the original water/grass/fire tradition for starter Pokemon. But it would be very cool if they were new species.
And the double type thing, like steel/fighting? I don't know why, but I'm just not warming up to the idea of way out of line double types. It's weird JMO.
bluestorm
May 16th, 2006, 07:08 PM
I dont think its weird. The combination of fire/fighting in Blaziken was awesome! I wonder if they'll have a water/fighting....i hope so. Mudkip's evos were great too! It's water/ground type gave a big advantage against electric types!
Kurosaki Ichigo
May 16th, 2006, 07:11 PM
Oh my bad ^_~, i always thought he was a Rock type, never knew he was a double type, now thats my stupidity, but anywho...i dunno then..i still think the fire/grass/water starters in my 4th gen comic would be awesome for it.
~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~
May 16th, 2006, 08:49 PM
I want the new starters to have a Double weakness for some reason, which is very odd.
Water/Ground <Grass
Fire/Rock <Water
Grass/Bug <Fire
See its still the famous triangle.
:t094:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~
bluestorm
May 17th, 2006, 07:59 AM
Hmm... thats interesting. Is anyone a good artist here? Good with graphics and stuff? Could draw some of these? If so, please tell me!!!
Okies. I made an evo chart for my fire/ground lion pokemon.
Leony-looks like a red tinted lion cub with hooved shaped paws for digging with fire at the end of it's tail.
Herleo-looks like an orange/red lioness with hooved shaped paws for digging, a firey mane starting to form, fire at the end of the tail, and ears growing a bit long, but thin at the ends.
Heracue-looks like an orange lion with hooved shaped paws for digging with fire around them, a firey mane going a bit down its back, a blaze of fire on the tail tip, and ears full length which grow thin at the end.
If I can get my scanner to work, ill show a picci.
smithy.boy
May 17th, 2006, 12:01 PM
i dont think they should have the traditional fire , grass , water trio.
Maybe it would be cool if you started with one pokemon and after a short while you get to choose your second. (or vise versa)
I reckon it will be water themed. especially with the new movie and pearls are found in oysters. Starting with Bouysil (spell it right?), Tamanta and another water pokemon would be cool.
Bonsly, Munchlax and Manene would be cool. with munchlaxs pickup ability it would give you a good help at the start. Its cool because there all 4th gen that go into kanto pokemon. (only 2 in there chain aswell)
It would be nice to see a mini quest to earn your first pokemon. Depending on how you do it, you will recieve different ones.
Zone
May 17th, 2006, 03:01 PM
i dont think they should have the traditional fire , grass , water trio.
Maybe it would be cool if you started with one pokemon and after a short while you get to choose your second. (or vise versa)
I reckon it will be water themed. especially with the new movie and pearls are found in oysters. Starting with Bouysil (spell it right?), Tamanta and another water pokemon would be cool.
Bonsly, Munchlax and Manene would be cool. with munchlaxs pickup ability it would give you a good help at the start. Its cool because there all 4th gen that go into kanto pokemon. (only 2 in there chain aswell)
It would be nice to see a mini quest to earn your first pokemon. Depending on how you do it, you will recieve different ones.
They will have the traditional triangle, they wouldn't change it. And your idea for getting Pokemon is horrible. Diamonds aren't found in oysters. And it's Buizeru, not Bouysel.
~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~
May 17th, 2006, 06:48 PM
...... Diamonds are found in Africa and other places.
Ground>Fire
Ice>Ground
Fire>Ice
Well here is another triangle I formed.
:t094:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~