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Tha Pkmn Prodigy
June 7th, 2006, 01:41 PM
the ultimate fire pokemon battle between all of the fire dogs:

Will it be Houndoom: the devlish flame hound who's inflicted burns on the opponent never heal? or will it be Arcanine: the legendary fire dog who has fascinated chinese people for centuries? or will it be ninetales: the elegant fire dog with a fierce side? YOU CHOOSE!!




by the way...i choose HOUNDOOM!! it looks the best and is the coolest!

Green Bulbasaur
June 7th, 2006, 01:55 PM
My pick goes to Ninetails. He has a great defense and good attacks.

My friend at my house picks Arcanine, but he doesn't know Pokemon very well.

enyce
June 7th, 2006, 02:10 PM
Houndoom, I find fire/dark rather unique. Plus it makes an awesome special sweeper. After a pokemon with calm mind baton passes to it

coachwhipneoship
June 7th, 2006, 03:56 PM
Erm...Ninetales is my pick! ^^

Dr_random
June 7th, 2006, 04:22 PM
Arcanie is the clear winner. pokedex data says he moves so fast & smooth he appears to be flying!!!

and to those who disagree-are you dumb?????????

~Rene~
June 7th, 2006, 09:16 PM
I pick Houndoom. Because it is my 1st favourite Fire Pokemon.

Smarties-chan
June 7th, 2006, 11:08 PM
In terms of appearance, Ninetales is definitely my favourite. It works decently in battle too, but I can't deny the sweeper qualities of Arcanine and Houndoom.

I'd say Arcanine. Because unlike Houndoom, it can actually take a few hits without fainting.

But even though Arcanine is the most useful in battle in my opinion, I still like Ninetales more. :3

Dr_random
June 8th, 2006, 04:15 AM
Alot of you say,"houndoom, because he looks cool" or,"ninetails has got strong attacks"
STREGNTH AND LOOKS DON'T WIN RACES!!!! ARCANINE DOES!!!!!!!!

enyce
June 8th, 2006, 04:37 AM
Alot of you say,"houndoom, because he looks cool" or,"ninetails has got strong attacks"
STREGNTH AND LOOKS DON'T WIN RACES!!!! ARCANINE DOES!!!!!!!!

You're not racing when you're battling. And Ash's Bayleef, beat Arcanine in a race in one episode. O_o

Now shut the hell up and stop crying because no one picked Arcanine. We are allowed different opinions than you. Get over it...

Green Bulbasaur
June 8th, 2006, 05:02 AM
Alot of you say,"houndoom, because he looks cool" or,"ninetails has got strong attacks"
STREGNTH AND LOOKS DON'T WIN RACES!!!! ARCANINE DOES!!!!!!!!

Were talking about fighting, not races.

Deathspector
June 8th, 2006, 07:07 AM
Technically...no...but anyway...

I'd also say Arcanine, but not only for its speed, although that is an attractive point. In my opinion, it is strong, with a good defense and attack, as well as special attack, rather than just special...like the others...

DS

Tha Pkmn Prodigy
June 8th, 2006, 07:18 AM
Alot of you say,"houndoom, because he looks cool" or,"ninetails has got strong attacks"
STREGNTH AND LOOKS DON'T WIN RACES!!!! ARCANINE DOES!!!!!!!!

oh please, we arent talking about races!! we are talking about battling!! so shut up about arcanine because nobody wants to pick hm :pirate:

.: Giovanni :.
June 8th, 2006, 07:40 AM
Well thank you to the four people that have posted the same thing. Apperently we're not racing.

Personally I like Houndoom because of it's half-dark side therefore it learns Crunch. Any poke with Fire Blast and Crunch in the same moveset has gotta be number one.

Oxnite
June 8th, 2006, 08:11 AM
I choose for Houndoom.



Bad things of Arcanine and Ninetales:
Fire Stone Evolving
Ninetales: Aren't that cool...
Ninetales: Doesn't learn any attacks...
Ninetales: 6/10 for all stats...
Arcanine: 8/10 for all stats...
Good things for Houndoom:
Looks, attacks, stats, attacks, everything! It's the number one. 10/10 For the POKéMON HOUNDOOM.


PS;;; (Mightyena is just a bad copy.)

enyce
June 8th, 2006, 09:42 AM
PS;;; (Mightyena is just a bad copy.)

:lol:

I though the same thing. A lot of hoenn mon seem to be bad copies.

HoundoomOfTheDarkness
June 8th, 2006, 09:48 AM
I would vote, but I have a biased opinion. *Pokes name and avatar.* Houndoom learns Crunch. And has freakishly high special attack.

Red1530
June 8th, 2006, 11:23 AM
I will go with Hondoom because it can learn powerfull non-fire attacks.

Natsuki
June 8th, 2006, 12:36 PM
My pick goes for Ninetales. =3 If you think realistically, its vulpine characteristics make it a sly and swift competitor, so I can imagine it would be able to strategize quite well in a battle on its own. X3 Also, Ninetales is so pretty, so I'm biased like that~ XD

~Kelsey

Drew
June 8th, 2006, 07:31 PM
Well, my imidiate answer would be Arcanine, but if you really think about their stats, Ninetails is stronger in alot of ways. I have Ninetails on LeafGreen and its my best Pokemon. ^^; Some people think it has a weak defense... if thats true then I wanna know what Ninetails their basing this information off of....XP My Ninetails has an awesome defense.

( I love Houndoom... but I'm not even counting him... ^^; )

So yes... I vote for Ninetails.

(That was hard...because are three of my favorite Pokemon... ><; )

joyce : the fluffy pirate~
June 9th, 2006, 07:13 AM
I vote for Ninetailes.
It's such a beautiful pokemon <3
Those tails...They are so pretty ... And that white fur...*squeels*

Jorah
June 9th, 2006, 07:38 AM
I'd say Ninetails looks the best. I like Houndoom because it learns crunch, but I like Ninetails a lot more.

~Strawberry Vulpix~
June 9th, 2006, 07:41 AM
I'd love to say the breath-taking Ninetales...it is very swift. But Arcanine would have the best chance I believe. But I'd love Ninetales to have the edge on luck and win!
~Strawberry Vulpix~ :t037:

Yoko-Chan
June 9th, 2006, 12:02 PM
my vote goes for houndoom.

Demonta
June 9th, 2006, 12:10 PM
Arcanine alll the way, arcanine rocks forever!

Houndoom1
June 11th, 2006, 09:28 AM
I'd go with Houndoom. Unlike the Arcanine and Ninetails Houndoom is also a dark Pokemon which gives it and advantage.

Miss Pika
June 11th, 2006, 12:28 PM
My pick goes to Ninetails.
Not only do I think it will win, I love it's appearance. It's such a beautiful pokemon.

Aegis
June 11th, 2006, 01:03 PM
Well, Ninetails is my favorite, but I'd have to say Arcanine would probably win out of those three. (and technically Nintails is a fox xD)

Ritsuka
June 11th, 2006, 01:05 PM
Totally agree with you! ^_^

miyo
June 21st, 2006, 08:37 PM
My pick is Arcanine.. I'm going for its speedy advantages ^^

Keitaro
June 21st, 2006, 11:22 PM
Yes I'm being bias when I pick Arcanine because he's my favorite Pokemon but I have facts to back it up, yep, yup!

Arcanine packs the physical attributes like Double-Edge and Take Down that could pack a heavy punch against a Houndoom that is part Dark and extreme speed could be the advantage useful against a Ninetales. But just like every Pokemon it just depends on how well they are trained and used in battle. I plan on training a powerful unevolved Pidgey, lol.

Rioku_Zanketa
June 21st, 2006, 11:37 PM
I like these things...just simulate it in your mind,with their natural abilities....Houndoom isn't a strong fast,or whatever as Ninetails and Arcanine..so he's out....

Then the final showdown....Ninetails "MIGHT" rough Arcanine up a bit,but Arcanine has the advantage over speed and power.....so it would knock nine tails out...

(Houndoom would lose to Ninetails' Agility,and Grace and stuff....I have a good feeling Ninetails and Arcanine would work together to defeat Houndoom anyways...)

miyo
June 22nd, 2006, 05:32 AM
But just like every Pokemon it just depends on how well they are trained and used in battle. I plan on training a powerful unevolved Pidgey, lol.

hmm.. if you were talking about in the anime, training a powerful unevolved pokemon is possible (like the Indigo Plateau episode where Ash fights a Bellsprout... even Pikachu lost..); but in the game, it's hard. I tried that before, and it really wasn't easy. I evolved my Pidgey only at about level 50+.. I gave up training the unevolved in the game because it's really not that easy.. (although it did seemed like a fun idea in the beginning...) :P

I'm not asking you to give up training that unevolved Pidgey, but yeah.. you gotta stand strong ^^

Erin Moonnite
June 22nd, 2006, 05:33 AM
Well, you can look at this logically, also. There may be a level advantage, or disadvantage! But supposing all these Pokemon are at level 100, we'll take a look at their attacks and stats, supposing these are wild Pokemon.

Houndoom
Attacks:
Odor Sleuth (Learned at level 35)
Faint Attack (Learned at level 43)
Flamethrower (Learned at Level 51)
Crunch (Learned at Level 59)
Stats (Discluding Nature)
HP: 290
Attack: 215
Defense: 135
Speed: 225
S.Attack: 255
S.Defense: 195

Arcanine
Attacks:
Helping Hand (Learned at Level 37 [Growlithe])
Agility (Learned at Level 43 [Growlithe])
Flamethrower (Learned at Level 49 [Growlithe])
Extremespeed (Learned at Level 49)
Stats (Discluding Nature)
HP: 320
Attack: 255
Defense: 195
Speed: 225
S.Attack: 235
S.Defense: 195

Ninetales
Attacks:
Flamethrower (Learned at Level 29 [Vulpix])
Safeguard (Learned at Level 33 [Vulpix])
Grudge (Learned at Level 37 [Vulpix])
Fire Spin (Learned at Level 41 [Vulpix])
Stats (Discluding Nature)
HP: 286
Attack: 187
Defense: 185
Speed: 235
S.Attack: 197
S.Defense: 235

My Thoughts
Well, Houndoom has the advantage of two Dark attacks, although both Pokemon have high S.Defense. And everyone here thinks Arcanine has the Speed advantage over Ninetales, well, you're all wrong.(According to my findings) Arcanine actually has a Defense and S.Defense disadvantage. And I must say, so does Houndoom. Ninetales has the highest Defense, S.Defense, and Speed of the both of them. But Ninetales has to learn all of it's attacks from Vulpix. Ninetales also has the Ability of Flash Fire, as does Houndoom, but Houndoom as two which is Early Bird and Flash Fire. Here, I see that Arcanine doesn't stand a chance, due to it's stat disadvantage. Because, you see, Ninetales powers up when hit by fire attacks.(So may Houndoom.) I see Ninetales the winner of this big battle, due to the fact of stats and special ability. But then again, Houndoom may win if it has the Flash Fire ability. If it does not have this ability, thye Ninetales would win. (According to my findings.)

Poke-nerd IRL
November 6th, 2012, 02:50 PM
Hmm... *deep in thought*
Interesting, interesting. houndoom is one of my favourite pokemon from the cartoon, and ninetails is one of my favourite shiny pokemon, yet arcanine has a very special place in my heart.

Most people have been saying that houndoom has an advantage by crunch. This is not the case as neither ninetails or arcanince are especially susceptible to dark moves (and a breeder would know that breeding houndoom with crunch and arcanine bears a Growlithe with crunch! :D)

Looking at the stats in the post above, it seems like the competition is down to arcanine and ninetails.

Arcanine has a definitively lower (-10) speed, and far inferior (-40) SpD. SpA, even though it is much higher won't necessarily help due to Ninetails' Flash Fire ability, so yes. Arcanine loses in a firefight with Ninetails..
Is this the end for the swift and majestic lord of the plains?
Will the quick brown fox indeed jump over the lazy dog?
it appears to be so
However...

How is everyone overlooking two of Arcanines superior stats?

I would like to point out a ridiculous 320hp (+36)
and whats this!? 225 attack! (+68!)

Hmm.. it appears everyone has forgotten Extremespeed?
Woops, it also appears that the previous poster made a Booboo. Look at the defence stat again
Arcanine clearly has 10 MORE defence than Ninetails, not LESS.

What we have established statistically thus far:

Health: Arcanine
Attack: Arcanine
Defence: Arcanine
Speed: Arcanine (due to extremespeed)
SpDef: Arcanine
SpAtk: Ninetails (but who cares. arcanines SpD and HP can tank it)

My strategy would be to breed a level 59 Houndoom male (for crunch) with a similarly levelled Arcanine female. The resulting Arcanine, once levelled to 100 would have crunch, (making the "houndoom has crunch" argument invalid), and using extremespeed constantly, would easily be able to crush Ninetails (invalidating any other arguments against Arcanine).

I made an account JUST to spell all this out for you guys, i hope this is sufficient proof that Arcanine is God.

Oryx
November 6th, 2012, 03:32 PM
Whoa. Don't revive thread so old please. o_O