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Cyndapack
June 18th, 2006, 01:39 PM
My last team was terrible, as I now realise. So I've tried again. Please rate.

Number 1:

Lugia
Lum Berry

Psychic
Restore
Hydro Pump
Aeroblast

My favourite. Knowing three different types is useful, Flying type stops him from Ryhdon's Earthquake and Restore helps keep him up.

Number 2:

Dragonite
Leftovers

Body Slam
Wing Attack
Thunder
Dragon Claw

More of a decoy type. I researched Dragonite and found it has better Attack then Sp. Attack, so I gave it main physical moves.

Number 3:

Rhydon
Quick Claw

Megahorn
Horn Drill
Earthquake
Brick Break

Mainly the juggernaut. He's used for bringing people down quick. Brick Break gets rid of annoying Reflects and Light Screens.

Number 4:

Tyranitar
Focus Band

Rock Slide
Bite
Mega Kick
Protect

Least favourite because of his Sand Stream ability. Only useful is him and Rhydon are out. Moves are for keeping him alive for as long as possible, so the sandstorm can do more damage, as it wears off after he dies.

Number 5:

Magneton
Magnet

Thunderbolt
Metal Sound
Charge
Thunder Wave

He's used for non-damage moves like status ailments and stat changes. PP MAX was used on Thunderbolt to make sure he doesn't run out.

Number 6:

Wailord
Shell Bell

Rain Dance
Ice Beam
Protect
Surf

Rain Dance helps with Magneton's Thunder and Lugia's Hydro Pump. More Protects since he has a lot of HP, I want him to be there for a long time while I pump up the others with Attack Xs. Surf hits both opponents, which is a bonus.

Well, that's it. I know I could have done better, but I've ran out of Heart Scales on Emerald and I can't be bothered with Poke Coupons on XD.

Lord Mike
June 18th, 2006, 03:36 PM
My last team was terrible, as I now realise. So I've tried again. Please rate.

Number 1:

Lugia
Leftovers

Something like this will be fine.

Psychic
Restore
Calm Mind/Light Screen/Reflect
Ice Beam/Thunderbolt

Ewww. This is disgusting. Aeroblast and Hydro Pump don't belong on Lugia in my opinion. Psychic you can keep for STAB. Calm Mind to raise Special defense and power up Psychic. You could slip something like Ice Beam in here.

My favourite. Knowing three different types is useful, Flying type stops him from Ryhdon's Earthquake and Restore helps keep him up.

Number 2:

Dragonite
Leftovers

Ice Beam
Earthquake/Focus Punch
Thunderbolt
Aeriel Ace/Hidden Power[Flying]/Substitute

*bark* What the heck? You killed Dragonite. All of those moves stink. Go with this set.

More of a decoy type. I researched Dragonite and found it has better Attack then Sp. Attack, so I gave it main physical moves.

Number 3:

Rhydon
Choice Band/Leftovers

Megahorn
Rock Blast/Rock Slide
Earthquake
Brick Break/Swords Dance

You messed up here as well. CB Rhydon will have Brick Break over Swords Dance. Never use OHKO moves!

Mainly the juggernaut. He's used for bringing people down quick. Brick Break gets rid of annoying Reflects and Light Screens.

Number 4:

Tyranitar
Leftovers

BOAH

Crunch
Focus Punch
Substitute
Thunderbolt

DDTar

Earthquake
Dragon Dance
Rock Slide
Roar/Taunt

You made me so sick with that moveset. You can go with BOAH or DDtar but not that thing you had.

Least favourite because of his Sand Stream ability. Only useful is him and Rhydon are out. Moves are for keeping him alive for as long as possible, so the sandstorm can do more damage, as it wears off after he dies.

Number 5:

Magneton
Leftovers

Thunderbolt
Metal Sound
Hidden Power [Fire]
Thunder Wave

Hmmm. I wonder what you'll do against Ground-types? No 10% increase helm items please.

He's used for non-damage moves like status ailments and stat changes. PP MAX was used on Thunderbolt to make sure he doesn't run out.

Number 6:

Milotic
Leftovers

Ice Beam
Hyponsis/Toxic
Surf
Recover/Rest

or

Swampert
Leftovers

Earthquake
Curse/Surf
Ice Beam/Rock Slide
Curse/Rest

Your Magneton doesn't even know Thunder smart one. Also, Wailord stinks. Milotic and Swampert are much better and they can make great bulky waters.

Rain Dance helps with Magneton's Thunder and Lugia's Hydro Pump. More Protects since he has a lot of HP, I want him to be there for a long time while I pump up the others with Attack Xs. Surf hits both opponents, which is a bonus.

Well, that's it. I know I could have done better, but I've ran out of Heart Scales on Emerald and I can't be bothered with Poke Coupons on XD.

You team needs a whole lot of work. I give it a 2/10.

Lathspell
June 18th, 2006, 03:54 PM
This is ingame, so he won't be able to get any HP anyway. Go with Protect or Supersonic on Magneton.
Also, 100 BP, 95 accuracy and high critical hit ratio + STAB means Aeroblast is a great move on Lugia. Calm Mind Lugia is nice, but his set works too, only lose Hydro Pump for Ice Beam.

Cyndapack, YoMama's sets are good, so I won't post any other sets, but I did notice that 4 of your pokemon have weakness to Earthquake, and if you want to use the team in double battle, that's really bad, as EQ is a very used move, especially in Double Battles. Try and do something about that, no point using both TTar and Rhydon on the same team. IMO keep TTar with Dragon Dance, if you can get it, and switch Rhydon with a tank. Maybe Suicune.

Flamman
June 18th, 2006, 08:15 PM
The most of the move set sucks.

here what i would change, with those pokemon, so you dont have to train/catch others:

Number 1:

Lugia
Lum Berry

Psychic
Restore
Hydro Pump SURF(more PP and accuracy
Aeroblast

My favourite. Knowing three different types is useful, Flying type stops him from Ryhdon's Earthquake and Restore helps keep him up.

Number 2:

Dragonite
Leftovers

Body Slam
Wing Attack
Thunderlow acc, only in rain ussable. i'dd go with thunderwave rather than thunder
Dragon Claw

More of a decoy type. I researched Dragonite and found it has better Attack then Sp. Attack, so I gave it main physical moves.

Number 3:

Rhydon
Quick Clawchoice band. double power, what more 2 say?

Megahorn
Horn Drillrockblast/rockslide(one word: OHKO. low acc, only ussable if target lvl is lower)
Earthquake
Brick Break

Mainly the juggernaut. He's used for bringing people down quick. Brick Break gets rid of annoying Reflects and Light Screens.

Number 4:

Tyranitar
Focus Bandleftovers(leftovers rock!)

Rock Slide
Bitecrunch(more powerfull version of bite. why go with a weak move if you can get the improved bite?
Mega Kickearthquake(you can make a nice sweeper of him
Protectdragon dance(for powerfull sweeping!)

use sandstream to your advantage: sweep, while sandstorm does some annoying extra damage!

Number 5:

Magneton
Magnetleftovers(don't use one-type atk boosters, though it was smart on a pkmn with only one attacking move. if you don't have another leftovers, keep it)

Thunderbolt
Metal Sound
ChargeHP special, if you can't get a special, go with toxic, always one of my favorites
Thunder Wave

He's used for non-damage moves like status ailments and stat changes. PP MAX was used on Thunderbolt to make sure he doesn't run out.

Number 6:

Wailord
Shell Bellleftovers(shell bell sucks if you don't have any nice attacking moves, and leftovers heals even if you use raindance)

Rain Dance
Ice Beam
Protectearthquake, for those pesky electric types
Surf

i hope you can do something with my comments

Lord Mike
June 18th, 2006, 09:56 PM
Um, sorry to burst your bubble Flamman but Wailord stinks period. The only good thing about it is its HP.

soldier2021
June 20th, 2006, 02:08 AM
This is ingame, so he won't be able to get any HP anyway. Go with Protect or Supersonic on Magneton.
Also, 100 BP, 95 accuracy and high critical hit ratio + STAB means Aeroblast is a great move on Lugia. Calm Mind Lugia is nice, but his set works too, only lose Hydro Pump for Ice Beam.

Cyndapack, YoMama's sets are good, so I won't post any other sets, but I did notice that 4 of your pokemon have weakness to Earthquake, and if you want to use the team in double battle, that's really bad, as EQ is a very used move, especially in Double Battles. Try and do something about that, no point using both TTar and Rhydon on the same team. IMO keep TTar with Dragon Dance, if you can get it, and switch Rhydon with a tank. Maybe Suicune.


Lathspell, i woudl agree with you 100%, but i personally think a Salamence or a Metagross/Blaziken would do wonders in his set, just my 2 cents.

YoMama you aint got a clue what you are talking about with Wailord, i have beaten the E4 6 times in a row with only Salamence, Wailord, and Magneton.

Wailord has very powerful Attack and Special Attack stats.

at level 41 its ATK is over 150, and SP. ATK over 150, and yes it has very high HP.

Fr0st
June 20th, 2006, 02:19 AM
OMFG wailord sucks get over it.... Even Curserein owns it.... You want a good water with Attack and Sp.atk then use friking Swampert....
I dno why soldier201201201020102 whatever is argueing with ALL of the people here

Lord Mike
June 20th, 2006, 12:07 PM
I'd like to see Jolteon or Rakiou OHKO Wailord.

Also, the Elite Four is so easy its not even funny. We might have had trouble beating it for the first time when Red, Blue, and Yellow came out but I've beaten that Elite Four with only Sceptile using Leaf Blade like the whole time. Fr0st and I are right when we say Wailord stinks. You can go ahead and use it in-game if you just like for some reason, but Soldier2021 you must admit the fact that Walird stinks, get over it, and move on to better things.

FinalTreecko781
June 21st, 2006, 09:56 PM
i agree with Yomama 100%. Wailord STINKS.PERIOD. i would use sharpedo or if you can get kyogre. OR SOMETHING JUST NOT WAILORD.and why would you use bite with tyranitar when you can get crunch?lugia and rhydon are pretty good i guess.lose metal sound and get thunder or tri attack(i think it can learn im not sure)for magneton.for dragonite get rid of wing attack and get fly.sorry but i'd rate this team 2/10.:disappoin

Lord Mike
June 21st, 2006, 10:11 PM
i agree with Yomama 100%. Wailord STINKS.PERIOD. i would use sharpedo or if you can get kyogre. OR SOMETHING JUST NOT WAILORD.and why would you use bite with tyranitar when you can get crunch?lugia and rhydon are pretty good i guess.lose metal sound and get thunder or tri attack(i think it can learn im not sure)for magneton.for dragonite get rid of wing attack and get fly.sorry but i'd rate this team 2/10.:disappoin

Fly is a waste of time. Aeriel Ace or HP Flying is prefered. Magenton doesn't need Thunder or Tri Attack. I appreciate that you want to be on my side, but at least get your suggestions straight. :\