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Pax Deorum
June 18th, 2006, 10:18 PM
Starmie @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 116 HP / 140 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Surf
- Thunderbolt


Breloom (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 40 HP / 216 Def / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Leech Seed
- Spore
- Focus Punch
- Substitute


Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 140 HP / 136 Atk / 64 SAtk / 168 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Fire Blast
- Rest


Swampert (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP / 120 Def / 8 Spd / 140 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Counter
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Muddy Water


Moltres @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 60 HP / 196 Spd / 168 SAtk / 84 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Morning Sun
- Sunny Day


Skarmory (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Atk / 192 Def / 48 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Spikes
- Substitute
- Whirlwind

Fr0st
June 18th, 2006, 10:26 PM
Are you trying to lower accuracy with muddy water?
That much speed on Skarm hurts the other stats somewhat...
No Spinner/Cleric/Wisher is no lasting power. Hope you sweep quick or you will be stalled...

Pax Deorum
June 18th, 2006, 10:33 PM
Muddy Water is awesome as it's as powerful as Surf and has a chance of lowering Accuracy. The Accuracy isn't exactely awful.
Speed is to Sub and Whirlwind versus other Skarms who try to phaze you.
Spinners are for sissies and Lax has rest so **** Clerics and Wish.

Fr0st
June 18th, 2006, 10:52 PM
24 speed is enough on skarm then. Spinners are for sissies?
Lets see you get owned by stall teams.

Pax Deorum
June 18th, 2006, 11:01 PM
lol stall teams don't do anything and Breloom rips through them.

Lord Mike
June 19th, 2006, 03:49 PM
Yes, but once Gengar schools Breloom, you're going to be owned by Chaosbreon and all of those other bulky waters and stallers.

Pax Deorum
June 19th, 2006, 05:23 PM
Any pokemon can beat a team after their counters are gone. Also, a pokemon IS NOT a team. I have ways to handle Gengar.

gerudodragon1
June 19th, 2006, 05:59 PM
you rly do need a spinner and cleric. you can live without wish tho.

how do you handle gengar? just curious

starmie fighter
June 19th, 2006, 06:13 PM
Yes, but once Gengar schools Breloom, you're going to be owned by Chaosbreon and all of those other bulky waters and stallers.

1) why would he leave Breloom in against Gar anyway, and if Loom has a sub up already it gets seeded, hindering it
2) Swampert beats SubPunch Gengar
3) Snorlax beats pure special Gar even without shadow ball
4) Bulky waters can't do **** to Starmie
5) Hardly anyone uses Umbreon, let alone ML BP Umby to Perish Song Celebi which is what Chaosbreon is.
6) Snorlax shits all over Umbreon anyway
7) Tell me what a staller can do to Sub Skarm, Snorlax with Rest and Recover Starmie, please

Fr0st
June 19th, 2006, 06:28 PM
1) why would he leave Breloom in against Gar anyway, and if Loom has a sub up already it gets seeded, hindering it Yes thats right...
2) Swampert beats SubPunch Gengar Yes thats right...
3) Snorlax beats pure special Gar even without shadow ball Not really... Gengar usually has 1 attack to hinder lax
4) Bulky waters can't do **** to Starmie Starmie can't do **** to bulky waters
5) Hardly anyone uses Umbreon, let alone ML BP Umby to Perish Song Celebi which is what Chaosbreon is. Yes thats right
6) Snorlax shits all over Umbreon anyway Yes thats right
7) Tell me what a staller can do to Sub Skarm, Snorlax with Rest and Recover Starmie, please It depends on the staller... Calmcune shits on all of them but Breloom covers it...


I see how the team works better now... but that skarm isnt gonna last too long. Gar still laughs at you tbh...

gerudodragon1
June 19th, 2006, 06:31 PM
wow starmie fighter. you make it sound like this team can top any other. what would you change?

starmie fighter
June 19th, 2006, 06:42 PM
@ Fr0st, note i said PURE special Gengar, which is pretty common, and is like Bolt/Ice Punch/Giga drain/Fire Punch or Focus Punch which can't really deal with lax except trying to freeze it
Starmie also thunderbolts every bulky water in the game except swampert, and one CH or Para will ruin them, while their Surfs back won't do much even with CHs.

Flamman
June 19th, 2006, 07:01 PM
i only have one thing, really small though, maybe you could give your scarmory drill peck in stead of hp flying, it means you have to start over training again, but if you have a lot of spare time... i would keep it this way.

Pax Deorum
June 19th, 2006, 07:09 PM
You're funny. You new here?

gerudodragon1
June 19th, 2006, 07:12 PM
that is funny, apparently hes new to pokemon. or NB at least.

but maybe just maybe Flamman will have his day. maybe one day youll be allowed to use drill peck on skarm.


and maybe one day my metagross will levitate...

Lord Mike
June 19th, 2006, 07:15 PM
i only have one thing, really small though, maybe you could give your scarmory drill peck in stead of hp flying, it means you have to start over training again, but if you have a lot of spare time... i would keep it this way.

Lol. You don't train on NetBattle smart one. You get your Pokemon, set the EVs, movesets, and natures and battle.

Rubberbandman
June 19th, 2006, 07:17 PM
i only have one thing, really small though, maybe you could give your scarmory drill peck in stead of hp flying, it means you have to start over training again, but if you have a lot of spare time... i would keep it this way.
Dude this is Netbattle, and drill peck + Whirlwind is impossible to get ingame/netbattle

gerudodragon1
June 19th, 2006, 07:22 PM
this kid prolly feels pretty bad right now. considering how he openly shows his nubism.

its ok flamman ill be your friend. :]

flamman ps: skarmory is spelled with a K, not like the damaged flesh, but like the pokemon. :]

Lord Mike
June 19th, 2006, 07:24 PM
I guess he still has yet to learn the basics. :\

and maybe one day my metagross will levitate...

No, pigs will fly up my noise. :nervous:

gerudodragon1
June 19th, 2006, 10:21 PM
I PMed him he said he has NB. maybe he just..... he just... uh.... er..

i dont even know man.

Lord Mike
June 19th, 2006, 10:40 PM
He might use a RPG server or something. :\

starmie fighter
June 19th, 2006, 10:49 PM
I guess he still has yet to learn the basics. :\


I laughed so hard at the irony

Fr0st
June 19th, 2006, 10:52 PM
I laughed so hard at the irony

I laughed so hard at that:laugh:

gerudodragon1
June 19th, 2006, 10:57 PM
i laughed so hard at..... uh..... um..... airline food?

whats up with that!?

*crickets*

i hate gary coleman

Lord Mike
June 19th, 2006, 11:01 PM
i laughed so hard at..... uh..... um..... airline food?

whats up with that!?

*crickets*

i hate gary coleman

Lol. That's funny. :laugh:

Anyway, I wonder how he NetBattles not knowing this stuff. :\

starmie fighter
June 19th, 2006, 11:28 PM
I wonder how he NetBattles not knowing this stuff. :\

If that's directed at me then you are so far out of your element, and have no idea at all

gerudodragon1
June 19th, 2006, 11:35 PM
it was directed at flamman. i cant speak for YoMama but im pretty sure that flamman was the subject when he said that.

Lord Mike
June 20th, 2006, 12:05 AM
Yeah, I just thought that someone who has even played NetBattle should be able to know about this stuff.

Also, nice avatar gerudodragon1.

gerudodragon1
June 20th, 2006, 12:24 AM
which one i just changed it 3 times. jack krauser or my blackguard?

anyway, i just have one thing to say. i own you all, for I am a lvl 9 blackguard! and soon w/ my alt i will have 9 ranks in dragon deciple! 9 ranks!

i have the ability to cast 5th lvl wiz/sor spells while you all stand before me with no more magic than a common bogun monster! do you hear me!? THY HATH NOT ANY RANKS AS DRAGON DECIPLE!!! <---- medieval accent.

sry about that i was just getting rdt for D&D tonight. im pretty good at getting into character right? lol

soldier2021
June 20th, 2006, 01:01 AM
What is all this fuss over a Skarmory? my Regice could kill him. no SINGLE pokemon can kill every pokemon, you need balanced teams and move sets to bring a pokemon to its individual potential. thus. know its weaknesses and strengths to build around them.

Fr0st
June 20th, 2006, 01:16 AM
Exactly. You answered ur own question. A balanced team has pokemon to counter special and physical hits. Skarmory can counter nearly all physical hits (thats why regice beat it, it uses special) and bcuz of this SINGLE pokemon, Choice Banders carry Fire Blasts and Thunders and Taunts to counter the godlike wall... That is all the fuss over Skarm

aragornbird
June 20th, 2006, 01:19 AM
which one i just changed it 3 times. jack krauser or my blackguard?

anyway, i just have one thing to say. i own you all, for I am a lvl 9 blackguard! and soon w/ my alt i will have 9 ranks in dragon deciple! 9 ranks!

i have the ability to cast 5th lvl wiz/sor spells while you all stand before me with no more magic than a common bogun monster! do you hear me!? THY HATH NOT ANY RANKS AS DRAGON DECIPLE!!! <---- medieval accent.

sry about that i was just getting rdt for D&D tonight. im pretty good at getting into character right? lol
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TOTALLY off-topic. Never do that again.

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gerudodragon1
June 20th, 2006, 01:19 AM
i think we'll call this one flamman #2

you see my silly little friend, skarm is one of the bast staple pokemon. and is by far the best physical wall ever. its types allow it to cut any weaknesses to a minimum, not to mention the moves it learns are up there. no one said skarm could kill every pokemon and if they did they're lying.

how did you beat a skarm with a regice!? all the regis are walls, except maybe regirock but hes no lax either.

sry i was off topic, i wont let it happen again.

aragornbird
June 20th, 2006, 01:23 AM
how did you beat a skarm with a regice!?
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Thunderbolt. Even a STABed Ice Beam 2KOs it.

But Regice doesn’t count because it is a special attacker and Skarm’s job is to wall physical attackers.

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gerudodragon1
June 20th, 2006, 01:29 AM
i think he was fighting a noob that didnt know when to switch.