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Lord Mike
June 19th, 2006, 03:43 PM
I found another old team hidden in my documents on my computer. I’ve been using this for a while and its not half bad. I need help on this team. There’s always room for improvement. :)

Breloom (M) @ Leftovers ** Garden Bloomer
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Spore
- Substitute
- Swords Dance

Spore, Substitute, and Sword Dance once and sweep with Focus Punch.

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers ** ZZZ
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 156 HP / 88 Atk / 176 Def / 88 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Return

500 HP to make this thing last long. The Defensive EVs help it as well.

Raikou @ Leftovers ** Zappy
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 176 HP / 176 Def / 96 SAtk / 60 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

You know the deal. HP Grass for Swampert. I’ve sort of made this thing a tank with the Defensive and HP EVs. This thing can stand an Earthquake from Salamence.

Scizor (M) @ Leftovers ** Scissors
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 196 HP / 172 Atk / 140 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Reversal
- Steel Wing
- Swords Dance

This one is sort of bad. I’m pretty clueless.

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers ** Swamp Dweller
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 236 HP / 104 Atk / 56 Def / 56 SAtk / 56 SDef
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Mirror Coat
- Surf

400 HP is about standard for Swampert. Mirror Coat to send HP Grass back at Jolteon, Rakiou, and Zapdos and works well with HP EVs. Ice Beam for Dragonite and Salamence. Surf for STAB I guess.

Gengar (M) @ Leftovers ** Nightmare
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 52 HP / 144 Atk / 176 Spd / 136 SAtk
Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
- Fire Punch
- Focus Punch
- Giga Drain
- Hypnosis

Hyponsis and possibly Focus Punch on the switch. McGar wasn’t working out because its Substitutes kept breaking. Fire Punch for Pokemon like Celebi. Giga Drain for bulky waters.

Lathspell
June 19th, 2006, 08:16 PM
Never used Scizor before, Scyther is better IMO. But Steel Wing on it is rather pointless.
Also, Scizor already has a pretty high attack, he needs speed much more. So this would work better:
Scizor @ Liechi Berry
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Att / 129 Spd / 129 Sp Def
Agility
Silver Wind
Return
HP Fighting

Or a BPer, with anything he's got:
Scizor @ Lum Berry
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 Sp Def
Agility
Swords Dance
Baton Pass
Silver Wind

He has the defense to do it, and with some speed and the lack of so many fire attacks, he can pull it off.

Sporepunching has a use on Breloom, but Sub only makes it worse, as you only have 1 fighting move, and if a ghost type comes in after the switch, you're screwed.

Breloom @ Leftovers
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252 Att / 252 Spd / 6 HP
Focus Punch
Spore
HP Ghost/Rock
Mach Punch/Swords Dance

Breloom suffers alot from the lack of speed...That's why Mach Punch is there.

The rest is ok I guess.

Rubberbandman
June 19th, 2006, 08:31 PM
Bold are the fixes in I found another old team hidden in my documents on my computer. I’ve been using this for a while and its not half bad. I need help on this team. There’s always room for improvement. :)

Breloom (M) @ Leftovers ** Garden Bloomer
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Spore
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Swords Dance
You dont want to do all that setting up for a Gengar to ruin your fun do you? HP Ghost > Substitute

Spore, Substitute, and Sword Dance once and sweep with Focus Punch.

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers ** ZZZ
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 156 HP / 88 Atk / 176 Def / 88 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Return

500 HP to make this thing last long. The Defensive EVs help it as well.

Raikou @ Leftovers ** Zappy
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 176 HP / 176 Def / 156 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Substitute>Thunder Wave. T-Wave is good in all but Kou is made to sub, CM, and sweep. Timid>Modest. Take out those SDef EV and put them into SAtk

You know the deal. HP Grass for Swampert. I’ve sort of made this thing a tank with the Defensive and HP EVs. This thing can stand an Earthquake from Salamence.

Scizor (M) @ Leftovers ** Scissors
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 196 HP / 172 Atk / 140 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power
- [B]Baton Pass
- Iron Defense
- Swords Dance
**coughBPcough**

This one is sort of bad. I’m pretty clueless.

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers ** Swamp Dweller
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 236 HP / 104 Atk / 56 Def / 56 SAtk / 56 SDef
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Counter
- Surf

401 HP to survive 4 s-tosses, its prolly wont survive an HP grass so dont risk it Counter is better IMO. Switch the Evs for Atk and SAtk since you arent using enough Physical moves.

400 HP is about standard for Swampert. Mirror Coat to send HP Grass back at Jolteon, Rakiou, and Zapdos and works well with HP EVs. Ice Beam for Dragonite and Salamence. Surf for STAB I guess.

Gengar (M) @ Leftovers ** Nightmare
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 52 HP / 144 Atk / 176 Spd / 136 SAtk
Lonely Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
- Fire Punch
- Focus Punch
- Giga Drain
- Hypnosis
Lonely nature to make Focus punch stronger

Hyponsis and possibly Focus Punch on the switch. McGar wasn’t working out because its Substitutes kept breaking. Fire Punch for Pokemon like Celebi. Giga Drain for bulky waters.
I hope this helps

Lord Mike
June 19th, 2006, 09:37 PM
Thanks a lot Rubberbandman for suggestions! :)

Rubberbandman
June 19th, 2006, 11:55 PM
Thanks a lot Rubberbandman for suggestions! :)
Ah, for kou, you need more speed or alot of EQers will take you out.

Lord Mike
June 20th, 2006, 12:19 AM
OK, thanks a lot for the help! :)