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DragonQueenRachel
June 24th, 2006, 06:22 PM
I've noticed that for some strange reason Mewtwo is considered a legendary pokemon, but I have to disagree.

The term legendary suggests that there are legends or myths about the said Pokemon, such as Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza, however Mewtwo, being manmade, cannot claim this.

If anyone has a counterpoint, or agrees with me, please post.

Rioku_Zanketa
June 24th, 2006, 06:33 PM
because the people who created poke'mon stated that Mewtwo shall be a poke'mon,therefore it shall be done.....

now...back down to earth..:laugh:....no,and yes....since a couple of people have seen it,and I hear that there was a another mewtwo movie"Mewtwo Returns",......I can say that since few people have heard of him,and consider him the strongest of all poke'mon(besides mew of course)he is Ledgendary....does that answer you question and stuff?..

DragonQueenRachel
June 24th, 2006, 06:35 PM
This is asking for opinions as well as facts, I gave my opinion, everyone is entitled to do so as well.

aragornbird
June 24th, 2006, 06:58 PM
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“Legendary” is just a term applied to Pokemon with exceptionally high stats and only one in the game. And technically, since Mewtwo is a clone of Mew, a Pokemon with a lot of myths going around, then Mewtwo would be a legendary too. Saying Mewtwo isn't legendary is like saying 9/11 isn't historical. It's simply new and as time goes on in the Pokemon world, Mewtow's own stories and myths will arise.

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Tyranita
June 24th, 2006, 11:00 PM
Im going to have to agree with DragonQueenRachel on this one for now. Legendary pokemon are well known and have stories told about them. They are also exceptionally strong and rare. Not to many people, in the pokemon world, know about mewtwo, hence no stories can be told about it. No myths or legends can be passed down. I also find that legendary pokemon have a sense of divinity. They are almost god like. Mewtwo being manmade, although cloned from mew, does not retain this sense.

Trequilla
June 24th, 2006, 11:06 PM
I'd have to agree with saying he is... He's one of the most powerful pokemon like any other legendary... And he doesn't show up much in games like the rest of the legendary.

buster_wolf
June 24th, 2006, 11:53 PM
Mewtwo is an uber pokemon, but not a legendary since it's a man-made pokemon. Basically, it has no myths behind it, although its parent Mew is quite a legend itself.

Blaze Dragon
June 25th, 2006, 05:54 AM
Mewtwo shouldn´t ever been clasified as a Pokemon. I mean, it isn´t really a Pokemon but a clone. So no, I don´t think it is a legendary

♥Naomi♥
June 25th, 2006, 12:14 PM
im not really sure,
mewtwo is rare and powerful,but has no myths or legends about itself to give it the legendary quality.
i say it isnt for the most part

it is an uber,but not a legendary.

DragonQueenRachel
June 25th, 2006, 01:15 PM
Well, at least people are agreeing with me, and Blaze Dragon makes an excelent point.

Barboach
June 25th, 2006, 01:21 PM
Mewtwo was manmade, but he was injected with the dna OF a legendary, Mew of coarse. So if Legendarys didn't exsist, there would be no MewTwo.


So im gonna have to say hes a sub-legendary.

DragonQueenRachel
June 25th, 2006, 01:22 PM
I kinda have to agree with you there, but sub-legendary dosen't really count.

Barboach
June 25th, 2006, 01:27 PM
Rachel, I mean sub-legendary as a legendary that isin't main to most things. Such as stories etc. Groundon, Rayquaza, Kyogre, Zapdos, Moltres, Articuno, and the three legendary dogs have been getting more spotlight on them then Mewtwo.


Regi Ice Regi Rock Regi steel Lat@s and mewtwo aren't that populer. Except for stradagests. Mewtwo is one of the best stradageys.

DragonQueenRachel
June 25th, 2006, 01:29 PM
That is true, of course its also very hard to get to the Regis, but this isn't about them.

mew2_v1
June 26th, 2006, 04:12 AM
in anime series, Mewtwo never showed up in the series except Movies, he is powerful to all trainers like in the First Movie.

Hayate
June 26th, 2006, 04:43 AM
I've agreed he is a legendary pokemon. However, since he is a cloned mew improved by Giovanni but then fled away.

In Netbattle for example, he is one of the many banned pokemon in different games.

Toothache
June 26th, 2006, 04:52 AM
I think Mewtwo is creating his own legend in the modern day. Think about it. A pokemon that is unique, being the only clone created. One that has escaped capture from Giovanni not once, but twice, and has great power, along with its psychic attacks and ability to erase memories and cloak others from detection.

Because it is so elusive, and obviously not everyone will have seen him, people will disagree that he exists, and think the idea of one is fake in order to make Giovanni's name bad or some other reason. With this doubt that creeps in, especially over time (decades), the legend of Mewtwo carries on well into the future.

Legends are not simply created, they evolve over time.

DragonQueenRachel
June 26th, 2006, 05:11 PM
I never thought about that before, this is more complicated than I thought.

Metaforte
June 26th, 2006, 08:41 PM
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“Legendary” is just a term applied to Pokemon with exceptionally high stats and only one in the game. And technically, since Mewtwo is a clone of Mew, a Pokemon with a lot of myths going around, then Mewtwo would be a legendary too.

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I agree. Legendary refers to stats in my opinion, and since Mewtwo stats are godly, then it would be considered legendary.

Gary, the Magic Fairy
June 26th, 2006, 09:41 PM
Being a legendary pokemon has nothing to do with stats. Just because all legendary pokemon have good stats doesn't mean that all pokemon with good stats are legendary.

(Pretend the pokemon world is real as you read this, or it doesn't make much sence)"Legendary" means they are pokemon of legend, that no one is truly sure that they exist, and there is no real evidence that they do exist. Mewtwo doesn't have a legend behind it, because it was created by humans, so none existed before that one was created. That means that it does exist for sure, and there is evidence that it does exist.
Also, being cloned from a legendary does not make it a legendary, it makes it a clone

ImJessieTR
June 27th, 2006, 01:32 PM
I said, not sure... It's a descendant of a legendary, if nothing else...

Team-Aqua
June 29th, 2006, 06:31 AM
On a side note, isn't Mewtwo the most powerful pokemon ever? Or did something happent to change his status? In the official pokemon handbook, it is said all trainers whom capture this pokemon are pokemon Masters! This isn't any ordinary pokemon here! This guy invented the term Legendary!

MegaFuz
June 29th, 2006, 06:57 PM
It really all depends on your definition of a legendary PokeMon. If your idea of a Legend is that it must have legends or myths that are told about it, then no, Mewtwo isn't really a Legend...at least yet. Of course, over time, as the stories are passed on from generation to generation, Mewtwo could very well become a Legend. If, on the other hand, your definition of a Legend is a PokeMon that is the only one of its species, Mewtwo would fit the legendary mold. An Uber PokeMon is an extremely powerful PokeMon. Mewtwo doesn't really fit the Uber mold either, however. Uber PokeMon have more than just one of its species. For instance, Wobbuffet is considered an Uber PokeMon, yet there are many Wobbuffets in existance. In conclusion, it really all depends on what your defintion of a Legendary PokeMon is. In my opinion, Mewtwo is just a unique, powerful PokeMon, that doesn't really fit into any one category. There are too many factors involved for me to say if Mewtwo is or isn't a Legendary PokeMon.

Ria
June 30th, 2006, 12:17 AM
That's an interesting question ^^; For my part, I'm not really sure, cause, you see, he's just as powerful as almost any legendary, so he's their equal in that. I won't say he's "rare" because... well, look around, almost everyone who's ever played a pokemon game owns AT LEAST one legendary, but he's just as rare as most of them (those obtainable by tickets excluded, of course ^^; )

As for the legends part, I mean, sure there aren't any, but the way I see it, Moltres/Zapdos/Articuno/Celebi/AndOthersEquallyImportantButTooNumerousToName weren't legends at the very moment they had appeared ^^; And Mewtwo (even though he's not my personal favourite because he's creepy ) did came into being rather recently. Maybe when some years have passed in the pokemon world, and he's had some great miracles done to his name, he'll be legendary too and people will tell their kids:"It was a dark, stormy night when Mewtwo did /InsertIncredibleDeedHere/"

miyo
June 30th, 2006, 05:20 AM
Interesting.. but honestly, I can't be sure.. as a matter of fact, I did start a thread not too long ago and were debating about legendary pokemon..

you might want to go check it out ^^
http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=69966

DragonQueenRachel
June 30th, 2006, 05:28 PM
I'm not saying that Mewtwo won't have legends about it in the future, heck, he probably will, but by my view, he shouldn't be considered a Legendary pokemon for the time being.

sunny99
June 30th, 2006, 06:05 PM
like someone said earlier, it depends on what u r definition of a legendary pokemon is, i myself think that mewtwo should be a legendary pokemon cuz it looks like a pokemon and has the powers of a pokemon. and mewtwo is definitly strong enough to be considered a legendary just like the other ones.

DragonQueenRachel
June 30th, 2006, 06:18 PM
To be honest, Mewtwo is in a class of its own, thats what I think.

After all, its a strong pokemon, and its one of a kind, but lets not forget, its still a pokemon, and no pokemon is completely unbeatable.

charizard_maa
June 30th, 2006, 06:54 PM
I think Mewtwo is creating his own legend in the modern day. Think about it. A pokemon that is unique, being the only clone created. One that has escaped capture from Giovanni not once, but twice, and has great power, along with its psychic attacks and ability to erase memories and cloak others from detection.

Because it is so elusive, and obviously not everyone will have seen him, people will disagree that he exists, and think the idea of one is fake in order to make Giovanni's name bad or some other reason. With this doubt that creeps in, especially over time (decades), the legend of Mewtwo carries on well into the future.

Legends are not simply created, they evolve over time.

I really believe he did a good job on explaining it. Still I add something he didn't really metion.

A Legendary is a pokemon who people don't really believe it existed. A few people have even seen them too. If you apply this to Mewtwo then he is a Legendary then. Few people have seen him. THen he was made by Team Rocket who were trying to hide him as in placing armor on him and few people in Team Rocket knew about Mewtwo. How could people have known about Mewtwo then? Not everybody knows about Mewtwo.

MasterWGS
June 30th, 2006, 07:09 PM
Of course Mewtwo is legendary. In my mind, legendary means one of great and unmatchable ability, and Mewtwo has that in spades. A legend is one that is talked about, and I don't think any pokemon was mentioned in the RBY days more than Mewtwo was (well, maybe Mew since everyone wanted him. That and the illusive Pikablue)! Everyone and his Poke-loving brother had a story to tell about their Mewtwo in some epic battle.

Toothache
July 1st, 2006, 01:21 AM
Well put, charizard maa. In fact Mewtwo took great lengths to make sure people didn't know about him at the end of the first movie. (erasing memory).