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Chizzy
July 6th, 2006, 11:47 AM
I got this from Wikipedia, a free site used to inform people about things. It clears up the situation for you guys about what the difference between a Newb and n00b. On this forum in particular there tends to be a big misunderstanding.

Newb and noob may have somewhat different connotations. Newbs are simply newcomers—noob and n00b, on the other hand, generally means someone who is obnoxious, annoying, or breaks the rules; whether they are actual newcomers or not is mostly irrelevant. Therefore, a noob may be someone who has been around for a long time but still engages in behavior that he or she should have learned is unacceptable. Noobs are generally confident in what they are doing, but in reality are annoying others. "Newb" is not necessarily an insulting word, but "noob" usually is. If someone makes an unintelligent comment on a forum or asks a question that even other newbies could answer then it is said that they are making a "noobish" comment or asking a "noobish" question. However, due to the evolution of language, the term noob or 'n00b' is now used both ways and newb is used only infrequently.

More experienced players are often encouraged to give friendly advice and help to newbs, to support them as they tackle the learning curve of whichever game they're playing, and some game servers are set up explicitly for the purpose of allowing newbs to gain experience before entering more competitive environments.

"Noob" can also mean a person who claims to know a lot about a subject but in truth does not. It was first used in hacker groups on the BBS chat systems in the 1980s. It is important to note that noob and newb are not necessarily interchangeable. Many times the term noob or n00b will be used by veterans to degrade a user for their lack of knowledge, or claims to know more than they truly do.

Recently, the spelling noob has been used more interchangeably with "newb", however, and is being used in a more joking manner, usually among friends and users on good terms when one user makes a mistake that most veterans would know better not to do, whereas a "newb" or "noob" wouldn't know better. For example, in the computer sense, a user on a bulletin board may call a veteran user as a noob in a joking manner because they didn't search for a topic currently open with the same discussion before posting a discussion of their own.

In online gaming, the term is also often used as a general insult. Frustrated players on the losing team may refer to the winning team as noobs. In this case there is no actual connotation of newness meant; the word is simply being used as an insult. By the same token, members of a dominating team may use the term "noobs" (n00bs) to further frustrate their opposition by implying a general lack of skill on the losing team's part, such as camping (staying in the general vicinity, usually a spawn point, for an extended period of time, especially America's Army and DOOM) or wastefully firing at a wall, wasting ammunition and time, and alerting the enemy. Noob might also be used by veteran players to criticize cheap tactics or overusage of unbalanced weaponry. In an online team game where friendly fire is turned off, a noob "tactic" would be to overuse explosives in cramped areas around fellow teammates. Noob usually applies in games where team-play is important, and the players choose to completely ignore the team structure and goals. Some other "noobs" are players who overly use "uber weapons" to defeat other players, players who "kill-steal" from others, and players who scam others into losing their items or money.

"Noob" has frequently been written in different forms. Because of the proximity of the "j" key to the "n" key, players in online games often typed "j00b" or "joob" by accident, and the recent proliferation of "nub" has often turned into "jub". Though neither "joob" or "jub" have any meaning, their connection with "noob" makes the two words equivalent. "B00b" and "m00b" sometimes appear in a similar manner ("b" and "m" are right beside "n" in a standard computer keyboard). This is quite similar to the origin of the internet terminology "pwned". According to the most popular theory on the origins of "pwned", it originated from owned when an anonymous gamer made a typing error by pressing the "p" key which is located to the right of the "o" key on a standard computer keyboard. Note that there are alternate theories of "pwned"'s origin. See PWN for more details.

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Chikara
July 6th, 2006, 12:02 PM
The word noob should be kept in the MMORPGS. Thats where it belongs. The word Newb is for new people and nothing more. There ya go.

Chizzy
July 6th, 2006, 12:19 PM
Well... thats basically it. Its just there has been tonnes of misunderstandings recently about this, so i found it and posted it.

It puts it into example too.

Chikara
July 7th, 2006, 07:17 AM
Ok, Ill go and get the definitions.


NOOB[not an acronym]: Newbie; an annoying person (slang)
****** NEWB: Newbie


There, now there is no more confusion

MegaDitto
July 7th, 2006, 03:01 PM
Most members of this forum get the meaning mixed up a LOT. If a new member make a mistakes on a rule. That does not mean they are a n00b.

Happy Dude
July 8th, 2006, 03:03 AM
n00b=know it all,stubbernd, loser

newb=new person

Allstories
July 8th, 2006, 07:37 AM
Why on earth is this on Wikipedia? There's no ultimate differentiation between n00b and newb. It varies by community and by person. This stuff doesn't belong in an encyclopedia, and it's stupid to go to pieces over the difference anyway.

Krafty Quill
July 9th, 2006, 03:46 AM
Well, thanks for clearing that up.

Now, I know I definitley fall under the noob category. ^^' And I'd much rather be a noob too.

But, hey, I'm slick, so its cool. :cool:

Flame Demon
July 10th, 2006, 06:45 AM
n00b=know it all,stubbernd, loser

I'm going to have to correct you there. They think they know it all, but they actually don't have a clue.

Gunn
July 10th, 2006, 06:49 AM
Why on earth is this on Wikipedia? There's no ultimate differentiation between n00b and newb. It varies by community and by person. This stuff doesn't belong in an encyclopedia, and it's stupid to go to pieces over the difference anyway.

Haha, true. Mind as well just think of it as an encyclopedia for the internet. I thought this too at first when I searched for "PWN" and "O RLY?."

Flame Demon
July 10th, 2006, 06:52 AM
Well, Wikipedia has everything and I bet most people know that, or at least should know that.

Drummershuff
July 10th, 2006, 07:47 AM
I've seen something like this before, however, it's nice to see it posted so people know what the different between the two is.

Flame Demon
July 10th, 2006, 08:06 AM
Yeah, and I'm glad to know that people like Andy are willing to ban all of the noobs if he could.

Chikara
July 10th, 2006, 03:13 PM
I'm going to have to correct you there. They think they know it all, but they actually don't have a clue.

do you even know the meaning of a know it all? Its a person who thinks they actualy know it all, so he was right actually.

Loyal Arcanine
July 10th, 2006, 04:59 PM
Why on earth is this on Wikipedia? There's no ultimate differentiation between n00b and newb. It varies by community and by person. This stuff doesn't belong in an encyclopedia, and it's stupid to go to pieces over the difference anyway.
Everything's on Wikipedia. From pornstars to cheating with Sketch in GSC. Everything.

Allstories
July 10th, 2006, 05:44 PM
I'm aware of that, but the assertion regarding the difference between n00b and newb is just stupid conjecture.

Flame Demon
July 11th, 2006, 06:10 AM
Well, like Dawg 2005 said, people need to know the difference between the two.

bna_li
July 11th, 2006, 06:25 AM
Thank you for this.
One more thing... if someone off the forum called me a n00b, I'd punch his face bloody. Can't stand it no more...

Krafty Quill
July 24th, 2006, 05:16 PM
Thank you for this.
One more thing... if someone off the forum called me a n00b, I'd punch his face bloody. Can't stand it no more...

*looks around sneakily*

.......

*points at bna_li*

NOOB!

......

*whistles and walks away*

skyland
July 25th, 2006, 05:17 PM
i saw this and i was thinking that what maneackiken was right well at least thw wikipeadia was but on eo (enldess oline just in case you didnt know) people call people newbs because fist of all noob is a blocked word and second of all people thimk that calling other people newbs makes them better players i was called a newb by a lvl 2 person and whan i said i was lvl 4 he didnt believe me and thought i was lying. lol.

Krafty Quill
July 30th, 2006, 11:25 AM
Even now that I have learnt of all nOOb's negative connotations, it still fails to strike me as an insult. I could call myself a nOOb, be called a nOOb, and only be left mildly humoured. Maybe it's because I haven't devoted much of my time to forum lingo and such or maybe its because I just don't care what some people think of me. Either way, call me a nOOB, call me a pretzel, you would be doing the same thing.