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miyo
July 7th, 2006, 09:10 PM
Yep.. so which one? I don't know if there's more, but the options I can think of so far are Minun, Plusle and Pikachu.. And perhaps not forgetting Pichu too..

My choice would be Pikachu.. what about you peeps out there? XD

enyce
July 7th, 2006, 09:34 PM
Definatley Plusle...when you look at stats Plusle is almost as strong as Raichu. So Plusle ftw. Unless pikachu is holding the light ball

miyo
July 7th, 2006, 10:47 PM
wow... I didn't know that Plusle's stats is as strong as Raichu.. cool. No wonder people say its much stronger than Minun.. o.O

Timbjerr
July 7th, 2006, 10:55 PM
Statistically, Plusle and Minun are actually tied, but they're both much stronger than Pikachu, who is, of course, stronger than Pichu.

enyce
July 7th, 2006, 11:21 PM
Statistically, Plusle and Minun are actually tied, but they're both much stronger than Pikachu, who is, of course, stronger than Pichu.

WRONG!!!!!

Plusle has more attack and special attack than minun. Then with Minun it has more defense and special defense.

Plusle is only five points weaker than Raichu in the Sp.attk department. And five points off in speed. Raichu is still more powerful then them both. But attack is not important because its dumb to put physical moves on either one. (Except Focus punch on rai) But Raichu doesnt count....

Pikachu, Pichu and Minun are the weakest. Because having Plusles Attack stats as your defensive doesnt really save you...

Smarties-chan
July 7th, 2006, 11:31 PM
Pikachu. Reasoning... two words: Light Ball. A Pikachu with a Light Ball only has a few points less Sp.Atk than Kyogre. Now throw in Thunderbolt, Surf and Hidden Power [ICE] and you'll have a killer.

But without items, I would have to say Plusle. That thing can be surprisingly annoying with Thunderbolt, Hidden Power [ICE]/Encore, Substitute and Baton Pass. And its speed and Sp.Atk aren't really that bad either.

enyce
July 7th, 2006, 11:44 PM
Pikachu. Reasoning... two words: Light Ball. A Pikachu with a Light Ball only has a few points less Sp.Atk than Kyogre. Now throw in Thunderbolt, Surf and Hidden Power [ICE] and you'll have a killer.


I dont see the point of HP ice other than grass types...I would use HP fire. Because surf already wastes ground and rock types. HP fire grass (what HP ice for)...Seeing Ice is a waste. Since you got flying and ground covered already.

Timbjerr
July 7th, 2006, 11:50 PM
I was taking overall base stats in consideration in my previous post, not their allocation. Mainly because I couldn't recall them off the top of my head...it's been a while since I've studied these numbers.

enyce
July 7th, 2006, 11:59 PM
I was taking overall base stats in consideration in my previous post, not their allocation. Mainly because I couldn't recall them off the top of my head...it's been a while since I've studied these numbers.

Me too, I went to serebii.net so I could correct information. lol...

Smarties-chan
July 8th, 2006, 12:29 AM
I dont see the point of HP ice other than grass types...I would use HP fire. Because surf already wastes ground and rock types. HP fire grass (what HP ice for)...Seeing Ice is a waste. Since you got flying and ground covered already.
HP [ICE] LOLs at Salamence and Flygon. It's that simple.

enyce
July 8th, 2006, 01:31 AM
HP [ICE] LOLs at Salamence and Flygon. It's that simple.

Curses on double weaknesses...

Its a shame really light ball doesnt work on the likes of Raichu, Jolteon, Magneton and Electabuzz. Then we would really have some serial killers

Capricorn
July 8th, 2006, 03:16 AM
Pikachu, when pikachu has Lightball attatched to it it's special attack it has the highest special attack (yes, higher than alakazam) in the non-uber metagame (Kyogre, latias, etc).

In this case, lol, thunderbolt will lol at Salamence OHKO with STAB and the bosted special attack, I think lol. Definetly the strongest if you want to include items.

That was also a reason to use Pikachu over Raichu lol.

Flonne~
July 8th, 2006, 03:17 AM
Its a shame really light ball doesnt work on the likes of Raichu, Jolteon, Magneton and Electabuzz. Then we would really have some serial killers

Agree with that...

as for the topic , I vote for Plusle , for the reasons that enyce said. :3

Capricorn
July 8th, 2006, 03:25 AM
lol, there's a reason it doesn't work on Jolteon lol. It destroys teams as we speak. :)

Green Bulbasaur
July 8th, 2006, 05:55 AM
Plusle.

However, if the Pikachu is holding a Light Ball, then definately that.

pokemaster7
July 8th, 2006, 07:36 PM
minum definitly(plusle and minum has the same stats ,but plusles defence and special defence are lower than minum's, so i dont get why people say plusle is better)

pokemaster7
July 8th, 2006, 07:44 PM
minum definitly(plusle and minum has the same stats ,but plusles defence and special defence are lower than minum's, so i dont get why people say plusle is better)

miyo
July 8th, 2006, 08:03 PM
minum definitly(plusle and minum has the same stats ,but plusles defence and special defence are lower than minum's, so i dont get why people say plusle is better)

Yup, I agree with you.. There were two reasons why I went to catch Minun:
1) It's blue (my fav colour)
2) I saw its stats in the Pokemon GB Guidebook and indeed, the Defense of Minun is higher than Plusle; the rest of the stats- the same as the other

so I am doubtful about this issue as well.. ahh, and hence this thread :P

enyce
July 8th, 2006, 09:06 PM
Pikachu, when pikachu has Lightball attatched to it it's special attack it has the highest special attack (yes, higher than alakazam) in the non-uber metagame (Kyogre, latias, etc).

In this case, lol, thunderbolt will lol at Salamence OHKO with STAB and the bosted special attack, I think lol. Definetly the strongest if you want to include items.

That was also a reason to use Pikachu over Raichu lol.

Back in GSC light ball worked for the whole pikachu family. Shame it isnt like that no more..

Light Ball pikachu packs more special attack than Alakazam. But Pikachu isnt out running Alakazam (especially timid). Alakazam would OHKO pikachu due to lackluster special defense. Unless Agility is being baton passed. Pikachu cant out run the big boys.

Conman
July 8th, 2006, 11:45 PM
Sense the question is "Which unevolved Electric Rodent is stronger?", I would have to say Plusle. If the question was "Which unevolved Electric Rodent is tougher?", then it would be Minun. Also they really should have kept the Light Ball for the whole Pikachu family and not just Pikachu.

miyo
July 9th, 2006, 02:40 AM
Sense the question is "Which unevolved Electric Rodent is stronger?", I would have to say Plusle. If the question was "Which unevolved Electric Rodent is tougher?", then it would be Minun. Also they really should have kept the Light Ball for the whole Pikachu family and not just Pikachu.

Okay, I'll sound stupid; but, what's the different between being stronger and tougher? lols :P

Conman
July 9th, 2006, 07:07 AM
Okay, I'll sound stupid; but, what's the different between being stronger and tougher? lols :P

stronger: Power, Strength or in this case Attack/SP.Attack.
tougher: Guard, Durable or in this case Defense/SP.Defense.

Smarties-chan
July 9th, 2006, 07:51 AM
What's up with people saying Plusle is exactly the same as Minun, but it has higher defenses. Go check their base stats and you'll see Plusle has higher attack stats than Minun. Why would Nintendo make two Pokémon that are exactly the same except one of them has better stats anyway?

Neo Android
July 9th, 2006, 11:17 AM
For the sake of arguement it would have to be Plusle, that thing is powerful when trained right my Level 81 for example completley wiped out my friends team in one move per pokemon.

Natsuki
July 9th, 2006, 02:41 PM
I would think Plusle/Minun would be tougher than Pichu. O.< Doesn't Pichu have some move or ability or whatever that causes it to shock itself in battle? o_o I know it does that in SSBM, it's so annoying. XDD

~Kelsey

aragornbird
July 9th, 2006, 06:28 PM
For the sake of arguement it would have to be Plusle, that thing is powerful when trained right my Level 81 for example completley wiped out my friends team in one move per pokemon.
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Wow, your friend must suck really badly. Plusle may be the strongest of all of electric mice, but it’s still the second worst Electric type in the game (the worst one being Minun). All it takes is one Ground-type or special wall like Snorlax to shut it down.

Anyways, my vote goes to Light Ball Pikachu. It’s great fun, even though it needs a lot of support in order to sweep.

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Vampire://Krimm
July 9th, 2006, 07:43 PM
Pichu!!! Though I love Minun, I vote Pichu

or, from rumors, the divide pokemon from the recently released Coro Coro O.o

Lukynumbr4
July 9th, 2006, 07:59 PM
I guess my answer would have to be plusle.

miyo
July 10th, 2006, 01:04 AM
stronger: Power, Strength or in this case Attack/SP.Attack.
tougher: Guard, Durable or in this case Defense/SP.Defense.

Ahh well, I see.. So I guess it's actually a balance between these two rodents? One is higher in attacks, and the other is higher in defense... hmmmmms.