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Synchronize
August 1st, 2006, 12:44 AM
Umbreon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP / 56 Def / 200 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Protect
- Snatch
- Wish

not my exact EVs but w/e. I just thought we'd have a discussion on the usefulness (if you believe any) of this in the uber metagame.

jc_rcw
August 1st, 2006, 01:09 AM
it can work, snatch some CMs/SDs and wish, then bp. With umby's defenses it can survive I'd like to try it.

Lord Mike
August 1st, 2006, 01:26 AM
Hmm, I don't play the Uber metagame. Only very rarely if I feel like making a fun team, but hey, even though I like never do Ubers I should've figured out Umbreon being cool in Ubers.

Also, btw, good EVs IMO. It needs near max Special Defense to take hits from Latias, Latios, Ho-oh, and Kyogre and other special attackers in the Uber metagame, which is few. Cool Umby overall.

husk1442
August 1st, 2006, 02:36 AM
toxic over protect so it can do something if its the last pokemon

Toothache
August 1st, 2006, 08:36 AM
Pursuit might be a funny option, if only for all the psychics around + Sheddy.

jc_rcw
August 1st, 2006, 04:32 PM
This thing is hot as hell, it can do so much stuff its not funny.

Synchronize
August 1st, 2006, 04:33 PM
omg Im in love
the thing Snatch Light Screen, Reflecct, Safeguard, and Rest.

This
is
too
cool

Lord Mike
August 1st, 2006, 09:26 PM
Snatch lols at Kyogre for CMing and at Groudon for SDing.

Btw, does Snatch have effect with a Sub up.

Pax Deorum
August 1st, 2006, 10:34 PM
it's better off snatching Softboileds and CMs from random Blisseys if they have the latter at least. I wouldn't advise you doing it vs Lati@ though

Lord Mike
August 2nd, 2006, 03:00 PM
Well, if Kyogre's out, you might as well Snatch CMs from it or else it will kill you in time. Lati@ don't hit Umby as hard as a double-STAB'd Surf from Kyogre, or maybe even Hydro Pump.

Toothache
August 2nd, 2006, 04:16 PM
I still vote for more use of Pursuit. Heck with a few Snatched CMs he might do significant damage. Lugia isn't usually an issue since he usually doesn't have WW + CM on the same set.

husk1442
August 2nd, 2006, 06:01 PM
ww+cm is standard on any cm lugia set =/

jc_rcw
August 2nd, 2006, 08:58 PM
Pwned for my? Also pursit is just to do some damage, but it won't take things down.

Lord Mike
August 2nd, 2006, 10:22 PM
A STAB Pursuit on the switch has a BP of 120, which isn't bad, but Umbreon has sucky Special Attack and mainly everything in ubers have pretty decent Special Defense. Pursuit maybe in OU, but it won't do a thing to Kyogre with that Special Defense it has. Even a super effective Pursuit to Lati*s won't make the the opponent go "OMG!"

Pursuit has it uses, but its not best use on Umby. Houndoom's way better at it.

Synchronize
August 3rd, 2006, 12:06 PM
lol snatchpassing to HOUNDOOM!!!!!!!!!