Pokemon: Hidden Depths

[Brittany]

I can't wait for the demo(if it comes)
Uhh, just don't overwork yourself for a game.

[PKMN_Sage]

I agree. Take your time phoenix.

I am glad that the demo will be coming out as planned. I really want to see what you've been doing all this time.

[Dawson]

Just some info on the demo. The battle system is still very buggy. I've put it in on Route 001 so you have a small idea of how I intend to adapt it fully. The intro looks a bit messed up because I've had to remove a few parts because it was causing weird problems. There a few little bugs that don't affect the gameplay but just affectic the cosmetic side slightly. Other than that everything else should work properly. There will be 3 (maybe 4) Towns, 2 (maybe 3) Routes, a Forest, a Cave and a minigame.

[Dawson]

The demo is now ready...hopefully. It works fine on my comp but when i download it, it is missing some a system file. Demo (http://projects.lateralshift.net/hiddendepths/files/Pokemon.rar) and here's the files if you need them. Extra Files (http://projects.lateralshift.net/hiddendepths/files/Extra%20Files.rar). You'll have to open the game in RM2K3 and then import them to the system folder. I hope it works.

[Avatar]

The demo is now ready...hopefully. It works fine on my comp but when i download it, it is missing some a system file. Demo (http://projects.lateralshift.net/hiddendepths/files/Pokemon.rar) and here's the files if you need them. Extra Files (http://projects.lateralshift.net/hiddendepths/files/Extra%20Files.rar). You'll have to open the game in RM2K3 and then import them to the system folder. I hope it works.

Cool, i'm downloading it right now, ill edit my post when im done playing the demo :)

EDIT:
Pretty cool, though there were a few bugs here in there.

Mapping was really nice, reminded me of Pokemon.
Some Events were buggy, like when you have to choose a Pokemon, if you select YES the rivals dont pick a Pokemon, and if you choose no the rivals pick a Pokemon, and you dont have one.
Some of the chipsets was really good, did you make the buildings?

And when I tried opening your game in RPG Maker some of your maps were filled with water, and the hero's house and stuff didnt look like they did ingame, did you do something to the game or is it just my RPG maker?

By the way I noticed you used some names and stuff from some of the other Pokemon games, like Prof Pine, is that just a coincidence or was it meant to be like that?

[DarkMage31]

Same, I'll edit once I play it :)

BTW, like my new sig? XD

[Avatar]

Same, I'll edit once I play it :)

BTW, like my new sig? XD

Looks cool, I like it ;)

But lets no get off topic :)

[Dawson]

Well I'm glad it worked. I forgot to mention that you have to pick the first Pokeball otherwise none of the other events work. I will fix that to make it work properly but I just didn't have the time. I did make the buildings, however not from scratch. I just took bits from original buildings to create my own unique(ish) style. The maps are like that when you open it in RM2K because I've edited the .exe file to stop people from seeing the stuff that I have done but plan to release in the next demo. Prof Pine just seemed like an obvious choice of name.

[Avatar]

Well I'm glad it worked. I forgot to mention that you have to pick the first Pokeball otherwise none of the other events work. I will fix that to make it work properly but I just didn't have the time. I did make the buildings, however not from scratch. I just took bits from original buildings to create my own unique(ish) style. The maps are like that when you open it in RM2K because I've edited the .exe file to stop people from seeing the stuff that I have done but plan to release in the next demo. Prof Pine just seemed like an obvious choice of name.

Oh I see, well the music changing system from town to route, seems to work exactly like how mine does :)

Well I dont really see the point in editing the RPG_RT.exe so people can't see it however its your choice.

By the way when a battle ends the music doesn't change back from the battle theme.

[PKMN_Sage]

For some reason, I can't get the file to open for the game. The extra files worked fine, but the game didn't. It says "CRC failed in Pokemon. File is corrupt." Could you upload it using winzip instead of winrar?

[Avatar]

For some reason, I can't get the file to open for the game. The extra files worked fine, but the game didn't. It says "CRC failed in Pokemon. File is corrupt." Could you upload it using winzip instead of winrar?

Worked fine for me, what program are you using? WinACE?

[PKMN_Sage]

After several tries, I finally got the download to work. I'm going to play it and give you my evaluation later. :)

[PatriotFan89]

I got an error: PokeRuby1 cannot be opened.

[Avatar]

I got an error: PokeRuby1 cannot be opened.

I think it's in RM2k3kids and Darkmage's game, if not then its in my game, just copy the system file and rename it to PokeRuby1

[PKMN_Sage]

I can honestly say that this is easily one of the best demos out so far! A couple of bugs and errors, but everything is great. Has a very Pokemon feel to it and as Avatar has said, great mapping skills phoenix. One thing this demo has than most, is length. It is a game that can easily take up 20-30 minutes of your time. It also has a couple of things you could actually do in the game. I really can't complain about anything. Great job phoenix!

[Dizzy]

I can't download it :( It comes up to a text file, maybe I should use IE. This really looks like a good game, I have to check this out ^^.

[Avatar]

I can't download it :( It comes up to a text file, maybe I should use IE. This really looks like a good game, I have to check this out ^^.

Do you have WinACE, or WinRAR?
Because if you dont I could upload it in .zip on my website, just let me know.

[Dawson]

Man there's so many problems for people just trying to download. PKMN Sage thanks for the great comments n_n. Just out of curiousity did anyone play the maze minigame and did anyone find all 10 Pokeballs? The demo would have actually been longer but when I played it myself I found it rather boring and not entertaining. I'm going on vacation on Monday for 2 weeks so I wont be able to work on the game at all and after that I start college so I wont have much time for about a week then. However I wont stop work being made completely. I will work up until Monday fixing all the bugs in this demo and adding in the rest of the features that were missing like the clock, calendar, map, good/bad system and the real time events. And when I return from vacation I will continue working on map designing on paper like I have for the other towns as well as adding more detail to the storyline and events.

[Dizzy]

Do you have WinACE, or WinRAR?
Because if you dont I could upload it in .zip on my website, just let me know.

I don't have either, I have that compressed ZIP folder that came with the computer.

[Avatar]

Oh I see, well I use WinRAR so I can open .rars and any other compressed archives, such as .lzh

EDIT: Well it seems I can't log onto my webserver right now, so I can't put it up right now.

[Sorye HK]

evaluation

1. the character isn't transparent at the start of the game.
2. when you pick your pokemon and say "no" the events don't
carry on properly
3. wild pokemon battle doesn't start properly.
-or is this another one of my computer problems?
4. more on the way.
5. it's really annoying when you're mum blocks the way out of your room.
Make the path a bit bigger.
6. when you enter to get your pokemon, if you don't enter in the middle,
you face left or right when the event starts.
7. unless you pick bulbasaur, the other kids don't pick anything.
8. unless you pick bulbasaur, you can pick every pokemon.
9. once i got the pokegear and went back to the lab, the two pokeballs
that I hadn't picked are on the table.
10. after the pokegear, I can pick another pokemon.
11. even if I say no, sometimes, I get the pokemon.
12. it rains inside
13. stopped again by yet another pokemon battle..wish I could save.

end of evaluation due to PKMN battles.

[Dawson]

Thanks Daegon, I was waiting for this post.
1, My mistake when I was checking the cave events and forgot to change the charset in the database.
2, this was the big problem in the demo. I've sorted it now and you can pick any Pokemon and say no and all of the events carry on as normal.
3, why doesn't it start properly? Did anybody else have this problem?
4, ?
5, For some reason when I made your mom walk she took a step and then stopped and then took another step. I've changed it now so she just stands there and when you return from the lab she is seated at the table.
6, Sorted this. As soon as you enter the lab the event autostarts and you automatically walk up to the right position and the events continues as normal.
7, See No.2
8, See No.2
9, See No.2
10, See No.2
11, See No.2
12, which building(s)
13, I don't know what the problem is. I'll make it possible to go through the demo without walking through grass.

If anybody noticed any other errors that were'nt listed already just let me know so I can fix them and upload it with no errors in.

[Avatar]

The battle system worked fine for me, didnt really notice any bugs in it.

The bugs Daegon posted was really the ones I noticed too, but they're nothing that can't be fixed.

[Sorye HK]

12, which building(s)

Well, I saw raining in the first gateway house you have to go through.
I guess the battle's got something to do with my comp.

[Avatar]

Well, I saw raining in the first gateway house you have to go through.
I guess the battle's got something to do with my comp.

What kind of bug do you mean in the battle system?

[Sorye HK]

Well, the events don't progress and the game freezes.
Some times it freezes when all the options are out and sometimes
it freezes right after the pokemon comes out of the pokeball.

[Avatar]

Well, the events don't progress and the game freezes.
Some times it freezes when all the options are out and sometimes
it freezes right after the pokemon comes out of the pokeball.

Hm, I didn't have those problems, it seemed to work good enough for me.

[Sorye HK]

Hmmm... Guess it's got something to do with my computer then.
By the way Avatar, I played your game in full screen and it did work.

[Sorye HK]

more evaluation:

in the guy who gives you pokegear's house, there's a tile you step on that
teleports you to a girl's house in Farebloom.

[Dawson]

Hey guys, I'm back from sunny Ibiza and I've got a load of stuff planned out. I've mapped out quite a few towns and routes on paper so I can just quickly convert them into real maps. I've also added more detail to the story as well as writing a prologue for the game. On top of that, I've also been drawing some new pokemon and working on new features. And I did all that while nursing a hangover in the mornings!

[Sorye HK]

Nice to see you back firstly!
You're really working hard even on the first day back! which is good...

[Krazy_Meerkat]

Sounds like you had quite a bit of fun in Ibiza :)
Well I am awaiting more info

[Dawson]

Yeah, Ibiza was awesome!
Anyway some new screens...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Grungewater.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Route7.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/SacredOasis.png

[Booda Sack]

Lookin good Phoenix.
I like the run down city.

[Sorye HK]

I think you should include a waterfall in the third screen.
Are there also broken chairs and frames along with the bashed up city?

[PKMN_Sage]

I agree with Booda.

Run-down city = Awesomeness :D

@Daegon- I don't think a waterfall would work with the chipsets that are available now. It would look flat if water was placed in for the rocks.

[Sorye HK]

How about making the surrounding water sludgey?

[Dawson]

@Booda- Thanks.
@PKMN Sage- Thanks
@Daegon, there will be a waterfall but I'm using chipsets so that it is animated. The inner of the houses will be bashed up as well.

[Sorye HK]

How about asking in the rescources thread for a FR waterfall?

[Dawson]

Not updated for a few days because I've been preparing for college and haven't had the patience for my slow internet connection lately. Some info about what has been happening. I've recruited a graphic artist to my team and he will be designing and spriting all of the new Pokemon and new trainers. Here are some examples of his awesome work...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Pyroati.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Pyrotima.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Pyromundi.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Tropok.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Tropalm.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Tropius.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Stiray.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Mantray.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Tsunaray.png

And since SaintBeast is doing all of the graphical work, I concentrate all the extra time and mapping and programming, which is definately a positive thing for the game. Now for news on the next demo. It will be the final demo and will be out after Krazy has done the Battle System and I've had time to customise it, so it will be quite a while but it will be able to give you a clearer view of the quality you can (hopefully) expect in the full game.

[RM2K3kid]

Those sprites are awesome! Oh and good luck with college!

[Dawson]

Thanks rm2k3kid. SaintBeast just sent over another sprite, check it out:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Scarkrow.png
It's Murkrow's evolution.

[RM2K3kid]

Lookin good! How many new pokemon do you think your going to add?

[zak]

wow dis hack is sik why has the thread been stopped pheonix any one


:disappoin :'( :knockedou

[Avatar]

This is not a hack, this is an RPG Maker game, there's a difference

Go to the Emulation forum if you want hacks.

[Mena]

OKay sry for bumping this up but is there any news? I mean this is one of the games that look so awsome! And I pheniox is gone or somthing, like he disappeared everyone, he hasn't been online, so pheniox were ready for some news!

[Krazy_Meerkat]

Phoenix hasn't been online since September the 16th. He obviously has his own stuff he has to do and he will post again once he has time or whenever he is ready :)

[Dawson]

Guess who's back! Sorry I aint been on, my internet connection was cut off because a virus was sending spam e-mails from my computer. Anyway I'm back online for good now. Progress on Hidden Depths has continued while I have been offline. It has been mainly concept work but I have designed and started programming the PokeNav. My partner SaintBeast has made a 22 new Pokemon and is working on a load more. I'll be posting more screens as soon as I can.

Edit:- Here's a battle screen with two new Pokemon:

http://www.whahay.net/pubaccess/Battle Screen v21.png

[Krazy_Meerkat]

Guess who's back! Sorry I aint been on, my internet connection was cut off because a virus was sending spam e-mails from my computer. Anyway I'm back online for good now. Progress on Hidden Depths has continued while I have been offline. It has been mainly concept work but I have designed and started programming the PokeNav. My partner SaintBeast has made a 22 new Pokemon and is working on a load more. I'll be posting more screens as soon as I can.

Edit:- Here's a battle screen with two new Pokemon:

http://www.whahay.net/pubaccess/Battle Screen v21.png
That's a great battle system, it looks incredibly like the group battle sys..
The sprites are almost identicle..
Well there are certain differences anyway. How did you do all of that?

[santadidit102]

im wondering the same..............................

[Sorye HK]

Well, I'm merely happy by the fact that he's started posting again! I like
that Flarenix the hero's battling against. Very nice sprites indeed.

[Avatar]

That's a great battle system, it looks incredibly like the group battle sys..
The sprites are almost identicle..
Well there are certain differences anyway. How did you do all of that?
If i'm not wrong, it's based on the group battle sys.
But you should wait till Phoenix replies

[Dawson]

That's a great battle system, it looks incredibly like the group battle sys..
The sprites are almost identicle..
Well there are certain differences anyway. How did you do all of that?
It is the group battle system. It's funny, because most of the graphics I ripped myself but the core of the coding was from the group CBS.

[Krazy_Meerkat]

It is the group battle system. It's funny, because most of the graphics I ripped myself but the core of the coding was from the group CBS.
Yeah I have been updating the graphics lately.. It would be interesting to see how the two of them compared...

[Dawson]

Some new in game screens:
http://www.whahay.net/pubaccess/Ixora Forest.png
Ixora Forest. Redesigned to look more like a forest.
http://www.whahay.net/pubaccess/Menu.png
Custom Menu. The bottom four options are fully functional.
http://www.whahay.net/pubaccess/PokeNav.png
PokeNav. The time display, ID, money and badge parts are complete. So is the Dates part. The interface isn't final. SaintBeast will probably make it more professional but that's how everything will look.
I have 2 more days of college and then a week off so progress and updates will be more frequent.

[Brittany]

I'm lovin it!
This game looks so awesome that it's awesome!
*gives rep and throws confetti*

[Krazy_Meerkat]

Some new in game screens:
http://www.whahay.net/pubaccess/Ixora Forest.png
Ixora Forest. Redesigned to look more like a forest.
http://www.whahay.net/pubaccess/Menu.png
Custom Menu. The bottom four options are fully functional.
http://www.whahay.net/pubaccess/PokeNav.png
PokeNav. The time display, ID, money and badge parts are complete. So is the Dates part. The interface isn't final. SaintBeast will probably make it more professional but that's how everything will look.
I have 2 more days of college and then a week off so progress and updates will be more frequent.
Wow that's kool! I like your textbox.. Looks good. The forest looks great.. Not like those crappy pokemon (insert version here) forests.. They are just too linear..
If you go to the Pokemon Shiny thread then there is a download of Pokemaster_Shiny's pokedex which he put up a while ago.. That would make a good start. I am working on an item system which you could probably use in your game.. You wouldn't have to change very much because it is designed for the battle system anyway.. Anyway Thx for the nice screenies and updates, good to see you still care about this project :).

[TheAbsol]

Whoa dude you tottally rock at making this game. I don't know how you make it with RM2K3 without lots of variables and not running out.

[Sorye HK]

You can have a total of 5000 variables and 5000 switches. I don't
consider it as easy to use all of them.

Anyway, I especially like that forest map. Dead ends, plenty of directions
are what make a forest. You've done an extreme amount of work! One thing
that I would change is the coordinates of the text box so that the Y coordinate
is closer to the menu above it.

[Dawson]

If you go to the Pokemon Shiny thread then there is a download of Pokemaster_Shiny's pokedex which he put up a while ago.. That would make a good start. I am working on an item system which you could probably use in your game.. You wouldn't have to change very much because it is designed for the battle system anyway..
I actually had some of the PokeDex code done already. I think though that I'll change it and use a map instead of using loads of pictures. That way adding 500 PokeDex entries will be a lot easier. I knew you were doing the item system so I didn't bother with it.

[Krazy_Meerkat]

I actually had some of the PokeDex code done already. I think though that I'll change it and use a map instead of using loads of pictures. That way adding 500 PokeDex entries will be a lot easier. I knew you were doing the item system so I didn't bother with it.
How did you know that..? Oh well.. All you need next is a pokemon selection menu and you're CMS is done :D!

500? That's a lot of pokemon.. Good luck with it :)

[Dawson]

OK, progress report on the PokeDex. I've input 150 Pokemon so far using switches and variables to display the necessary pictures. I kinda need a break from that now so I'm gonna go back and do some map refining because I feel that they're not as good as they could be.

[cigarettes]

Cool a full working pokedex can't wait for this game

Cigarettes :chinese:

[Sorye HK]

I kinda need a break from that now so I'm gonna go back and do some map refining because I feel that they're not as good as they could be.
It's good to hear a lot of dedication in your work. I'm sure that your work will *shine*

[Dawson]

It's good to hear a lot of dedication in your work. I'm sure that your work will *shine*

I sure hope it does n_n;
New screenshots.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Freezefir.png
Freezefir Town.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Snowgrass.png
Grass by Freezefir Town.

Thanks to my graphics artist, SaintBeast, who's given a lot of time to this project, this game should be looking a whole lot better now that he is working on chipsets as well as new Pokemon. I've seen about 20-25 sketches of Pokemon he has drawn and they are awesome and original and hopefully I'll be able to show a few of them in the next demo.

[cigarettes]

Those screens are wicked this game looks cool
i hope it never dies!!!!!!!!!
can't wait for the next demo

Cigarettes :chinese:

[RM2K3kid]

Thats not bad work! I've been working on a snow set but I never thought of doing the tree's like that... Anyway great work I can't wait to play it :) !

[santadidit102]

awesome hero!!! did u make that yourself??

[Brittany]

That's really awesome! This definetly has to be one of the best rm2k pokemon games ever!

[DarkMage31]

Is that just an isolated "wintery" town? Or will you have a "seasons system" like DCC? I was going to have one for lunar, and if you look at the common events I started the coding for it. I never got around to finishing the coding/chipsets though.

[PatriotFan89]

*Drools over screenies* Dude, this looks better and better, I can't wait!

[Sorye HK]

I like the green roads to go along with the snow. Kinda blends. Will you be adding
footprints in the snow?

[MatiZ Master]

yo, nice job phoenix... just one thing

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Pyroati.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Pyrotima.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Pyromundi.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Tropok.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Tropalm.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Tropius.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Stiray.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Mantray.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Tsunaray.png


well.. the basic forms don't look very good (but it doesn't mean that i don't like them) try to modify them just a bit... but that's only my comment
MatiZ

[Dawson]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Diving.png
My first screen of a functional diving system. I've just got to make a charset of the hero underwater.

@DM-That is an isolated snow town with a large snowy area around it.

@Daegon-Yeah footprints are gonna be added, sorta like how you get tracks in the sand on r/s.

@MatiZ Master-I've requested to my graphic designer that some sprites be tweaked a little bit already.

Thanks for the comments everybody.

[Breakout]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Diving.png
My first screen of a functional diving system. I've just got to make a charset of the hero underwater.^ Nice under water cave, I like the snow town too, it looks cool!
Keep up the good work phoenix :)

[TheAbsol]

[QUOTE=phoenix316]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Diving.png
My first screen of a functional diving system. I've just got to make a charset of the hero underwater.[QUOTE]
Whoa cool. This game is just way toooo awesome man.

[Demonion]

Bleh tropius as a full evolution starter doesn't work good he is just very worse :p make hem the 2nd evolution and let him evolve to something else

[Jason]

Very nice, I cannot wait to play this game.

[DarkMage31]

This game is coming out awesome. Nice job Phoenix :)
Yeah footprints are gonna be added, sorta like how you get tracks in the sand on r/s. If you want help with this, I ripped footprints from RS and made them into a charset. I also figured out how to script the footprint thingy. So lemme know if you want to know how I did it :P

[Dawson]

This game is coming out awesome. Nice job Phoenix :)
If you want help with this, I ripped footprints from RS and made them into a charset. I also figured out how to script the footprint thingy. So lemme know if you want to know how I did it :P

Thanks DM that'll help me out a bit.

Progress report: 25 new Pokemon fully completed, front, back and mini sprites, about 25 sketched out by SaintBeast. I'm still perfecting the maps of the new towns I've just done and SB is making new chipsets for them. I've started mapping Kantot recreating Hoenn by combining Ru/Sa and Fr/Lg chipsets to make it match with the whole game.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Cerulean.png
Cerulean City
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Petalburg.png
Here's Petalburg City. I might change the buildings later, I'm not sure at the moment. I'm completely changing the battle system, to see if it's possible to use all pictures without teleporting to a different map (sorta like Booda has done with c.o.l) and progress with the Pokedex has slowed down until I decide what order the Pokemon will be placed (which is taking a VERY long time).

Me and SB have decided to change the way the Gym battles work slightly with special prizes being awarded for completing a set criteria during the battle, and only being allowed to use the same amount of Pokemon as the Gym Leader, just to make it a bit more challenging.

We've also been working on some other features which will make the game slightly more like tradional RPG's while still keeping the Pokemon style and not changing too much. But more on that when we've got enough done to show screens of.

I've had to change the way the game will be played because I have to make it so you can visit 4 regions and be able to catch 450-500. How it'll work is you complete the first region, Thaio, as you normally would. You are then given the choice of 3 boat tickets, Blue Ticket, Gold Ticket and Ruby Ticket. Whichever you pick will take you to their respective regions. After this though I'm having difficulty in adding in the other two regions.

Unless I only allow access to two regions per game which adds replay value but also makes it almost impossible to catch 500 Pokemon in two regions (with about 20 of those being Legendaries).

Due to the game being so big, SB and I are thinking of recruiting a couple more staff to the team to speed up the production rate. But we wanna get the game to a presentable stage before that happens though.

Well that's it.

[DarkMage31]

Sounds great :D

As soon as I get my other comp hooked up, I'll attatch the footprints.

[RM2K3kid]

Sounds and looks awesome! How much of kanto have you completed? I might be able to help with the maps!

[Dawson]

Sounds great :D

As soon as I get my other comp hooked up, I'll attatch the footprints. Great!

Sounds and looks awesome! How much of kanto have you completed? I might be able to help with the maps! Thanks. I've mapped out everything upto Celadon City, but my Celadon Chipset has a few tiles missing so I just have to rip them.

[Brittany]

This game is looking great! If all RPG Maker games were milkshakes, your's would be chocolate!
*loves chocolate milkshakes*

[freakboy]

if you want to change the house in Petalburg...
then this (http://www.pokecommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11508) could be handy. i have made those houses myself and everyone can use them. only the problem is, that the picture is in 24bit :\

[PatriotFan89]

Yet another awesome game! I can't wait Phoenix!

[smithy.boy]

wow thats amazing dude
love it
:):):):):)/:):):):):)

[Dawson]

Thanks Dudes! (aint used that word in a while)
Anyway, I've tried coding the battle system onto the maps and it's gonna take a lot of time and effort to get that done so for now, until after the next demo, the battle system will be boxed in with some sort of border, a la rm2k3kid. But once the maps, sprites, story etc are complete I'll get the cbs onto the maps.

[DarkMage31]

Sounds great. If you're using the team cbs, my recommandation is to hold off for a month or so until toothache gets those formulae. However, if you don't want the "authenticness," feel free :)

[RM2K3kid]

Well it sounds great phoenix316! I'm realy looking forward to the demo!

[DarkMage31]

I just recently stopped by Gaming World and saw your posts in the forum. Obviously those guys love your game, and w/ good reason :). This is looking very promising, definately one of my top 5 games around here :)

[Dawson]

Sounds great. If you're using the team cbs, my recommandation is to hold off for a month or so until toothache gets those formulae. However, if you don't want the "authenticness," feel free :)
Good point. I don't really want to start all the stats coding from scratch when it's already being done. I'll hold off for a bit.
Well it sounds great phoenix316! I'm realy looking forward to the demo!
Hopefully this demo will be as near to perfect as I can possibly get. I've released two demos of this game and neither one was particularly great.
I just recently stopped by Gaming World and saw your posts in the forum. Obviously those guys love your game, and w/ good reason . This is looking very promising, definately one of my top 5 games around here
Thanks. Yeah I've been getting positive comments on GW, which can only be a good thing. Those guys are brutally honest, when they don't like something they let you know in the worst possible way.

EDIT: By the way, I've finally started work on the breeding system. I should have it working with at least 4 different Pokemon for the demo. Other than that, I've just been building up the maps and routes. Heres a new screen:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/BreederGardens.png

[Neo-Dragon]

just read over the pages there, I CAN NOT WAIT for this game.
breeding system, thats REALLY COOL!
Keep up the good work- BTW, i love those screens.

[TheAbsol]

By the way, I've finally started work on the breeding system.

I thought it was started a long time ago :surprised

[cigarettes]

Those guys are brutally honest, when they don't like something they let you know in the worst possible way.
I know i made a pokemon game posted it their and it was locked >_<

[Sorye HK]

I'd just like to say '*enter best compliment a man can make here*'!
Awaiting the demo!

[Toothache]

If you want help with the breeding system, give me a shout - I am the resident breeding expert here, after all. :-)

But I have to say, this is looking sweet. Although I think the PC CBS might blow you away in terms of variables ;-)

[Brittany]

Your maps are real eye-catchers.
*patiently awaits the next demo/release*

[Dawson]

Hey guys, I've been working on the gyms for a while today and I need some feedback on this. It's a Fire/Bug Gym. Let me know what you guys think, good and bad, because I'm pretty undecided about it. Here it is:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/FireBugGym1.png

Here's another screen, I thought I may as well post something as well.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Borstone.png

[Brittany]

Well I think it looks great. The inside of the gym looks like it's 90% themed to Fire though. Maybe you should add some stuff to represent the bugs XD

[PKMN_Sage]

Awesome screens phoenix! Where are the trainers going to be?

LittleFacistPanties- I think the trees were supposed to be the thing that would represent the bug part. If you think about it, there's not much Pokemon chipsets that are just meant for bugs.

[Dawson]

Well I think it looks great. The inside of the gym looks like it's 90% themed to Fire though. Maybe you should add some stuff to represent the bugs XD
Yeah I thought the same. I can't think of what else could be used to represent bugs other than trees without anything looking out of place.
Awesome screens phoenix! Where are the trainers going to be?
Thanks. There will be 5-6 trainers. 2-3 will be placed enroute to the leader so you have to battle them and the others will be placed around the gym where you can choose to battle them.
LittleFacistPanties- I think the trees were supposed to be the thing that would represent the bug part. If you think about it, there's not much Pokemon chipsets that are just meant for bugs.
The chipsets aren't a problem as my graphic designer, SaintBeast, can do great things with chipsets, we just don't know what else to add.
I've written some pretty cool sidequest story scenarios recently and it's going to be a lot of fun programming that so should finally see some screens of the actual story pretty soon. That is after I can fix the font in my rm2k. I had it fixed before but after my computer got wiped out it's gone back to the crap style. I've downloaded the font patch but it doesn't make a difference. I think I've got a crap copy, anybody got a link to a good one?

[cigarettes]

When this game is completed it is going to be one of the best games around here

[RM2K3kid]

I agree this is turning out to be an awesome game! Keep up the good work!

[TheAbsol]

Didn't the game use to have a site? And what was it >.<

[Dawson]

Didn't the game use to have a site? And what was it >.<
It did but it is so outdated now. I reckon I should make a new site, I just hate freewebs though but I aint that great at HTML so I aint got much choice. I'll make one right after I've finished programming the events for the Ghost/Dark gym.

[TheAbsol]

I reckon I should make a new site, I just hate freewebs though but I aint that great at HTML so I aint got much choice.
Use FrontPage or some other HTML editor.

[Dawson]

Use FrontPage or some other HTML editor.
Good idea. I've got a layuot done and added most of the info I have, it looks a bit(lot) plain though. Hopefully SaintBeast will sort that soon.

On to game news: I've just programmed a cool little Rock, Paper, Scissors sub game into Hidden Depths. I thought it would be something cool that you can play with npc's instead of just useless chat. It's supposed to work similar to YuGiOh Sacred Cards where pressing one button will chat and the other will play the game. You can win money from most people but some special ones will hand over TM's and Pokemon. Let me know what you think about this, I'm not sure if it strays too far from the series.
I might post a screen but it's not really much to look at, at the moment.

[Brittany]

Good idea. I've got a layuot done and added most of the info I have, it looks a bit(lot) plain though. Hopefully SaintBeast will sort that soon.

On to game news: I've just programmed a cool little Rock, Paper, Scissors sub game into Hidden Depths. I thought it would be something cool that you can play with npc's instead of just useless chat. It's supposed to work similar to YuGiOh Sacred Cards where pressing one button will chat and the other will play the game. You can win money from most people but some special ones will hand over TM's and Pokemon. Let me know what you think about this, I'm not sure if it strays too far from the series.
I might post a screen but it's not really much to look at, at the moment.The Rock-Paper-Scissors thing sounds like a cool idea.

I think it would be funny to have some Rock-Paper-Scissors Guru hidden deep in some cave or something :P

[Dawson]

Can you guys give me some feedback on this? It's the Grass/Rock gym. It is layed out in the same style as Fuschia Gym. Let me know on what you like, improvements etc.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/RockGrassGym.png

[DarkMage31]

I spy with my little eye... minute little changes that should be made. I'm just going to be really picky now :)

1) Look at the pillars. They start at the roof and go to the ground. However, they meet the ground away from where the wall meets the ground. Because of the top position of the pillars in relation to the bottom, it looks like they're on a slant
***/-|
**/--|
*/---|
/----|
It's hard to explain, but I hope you get the idea :) Like I said, it's very subtle

2) Now direct your attn to the shadow to the left of the path. At the top of the path where the dirt merges with grass, your shadow is cut short in the jaggedness of the transition. In fact, almost all of the shadowed dirt looks out of place and too rigid.

3) Where's the guy that tells you what the type of the gym leader is, etc?

Nice job :) It's as easy as 1-2-3!

[SaintBeast]

Hey Phoenix! Heh, DarkHacking seems to be dead ^_^v.. So, I thought I'd check to see if you where talking about Hidden Depths here... I see so, much more, heh ^_^v.. Why didn't you tell me?

Anyways, hey everyone, I'm the graphics designer he's been boosting about. Thanks for the pitch Phoenix!

I'd like some feedback on my graphics so far, I did catch a few things like a complaint about Tropius. I choose him to be a final-stage starter, because well he's a great pokemon potentialy but being 1 stage takes all the fun out of raising one. Pokemon doesn't have alot of cool grass-types, and Tropius is definatly pretty awesome. Also, he's a Grass/Flying and thats a great advantage as a starter because he can learn Fly, like Charazard. Charazard was my favorit simply because I didn't have to piddle around with some otherwise worthless bird instead of consintrating on a versatile and balanced team. Tropius has to be the third stage though, it's too big for anything else, got to stick to Pokemon starter phonetics.. Cute > Cool > BadAzz

Sadly I've thought up 3 new starter lines I like more.... heh... but, no biggy, maybe they'll make it to the game. Well, I like the grass and water ones more anyway. ^_^ My fire-line for Hidden Depths rocks.

About special features in the game. Expect special trainers kind'a like rivals you'll encounter through-out the game and will get deeply involved in the story-line. Also, if you think the rock-paper-scissors is cool, wait til we get to the DDR style dancing to get through the Elec-Steel gym, or the surfing competition with Kammi Tsunami, Gym leader of the Water-Flying gym! That is, if we can do them......... Here's to hope'n!

So Phoenix, we've got a site? Let me know when you want me to do some real graphics for it, let me know what you need. I've been lazzy tonight, but I'm going to go work on a banner for us to use as signatures if you want. Weekend comming = more product. Got a few distractions this month though.. 9th is AnimeMeetUp, 13th lil bros b-day, 15th staff holiday party, 18th going to Orland for family x-mas get-together.. X.X

Feedback we like, yes.

................................SaintBeast (SeijinYajuu)

[PKMN_Sage]

Hey SaintBeast! It's nice to finally meet you. This has got to be the most productive game here. I commend you two on your hard work!

BTW SaintBeast, I'm totally loving the pre-evo of Tropius in your sig. I would love to see the fire and water starters get a little touch-up to them too. Will the Tropius's pre-evo replace the one that phoenix has in his? Keep up the good work guys!

[SaintBeast]

Hummm.... Ummm.. I don't know, depends on which Phoenix likes more I supose.. I prefer the one on mine too, I actualy did it first but I wanted to try one standing up so I did the other.. Didn't like it as much ultimatly..

Anyways, hey Phoenix.. What do you think of my art for the female trainer? This is the type of graphics I'll do for the site, but I'm not much for .html code'n..so.. we might be in a bind ^_^v.. This took most my time, but I almost finished the banner thingy.. For now anyway, gonn'a change it up some when I get more graphics done, liek the male trainer.

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/FemTrnr001.png

[Dawson]

Hey SaintBeast. Sorry I never told you about PC, I thought you already knew about it. This site was how I got to the DarkHacking one.
Guys, as SaintBeast has told you, we have been planning some big things that I've kept quiet up until now, that we're hoping can push our game to a higher level.
SaintBeast, you've thought up new starter lines? Can you e-mail or pm them to me when your done. Maybe both sets can be in the game.
You can start doing site graphics whenever you like, I'm almost done with adding the info about the game so we just need graphics to brighten it up.
We can use the first Tropok if you want, I assumed that since you redesigned it, you preferred the second one.
That graphic of the girl trainer is awesome, as if I'd expect anything less from you n_n.

DM, thanks for the comments, I see what you mean with the first two points. The third point though, the guy is just off screen.

[SaintBeast]

Me again, just checking back.. I knew about PC, but since I met you on DH and we did so much posting there.. well, I didn't really think to look here for Hidden Depths. ^_^v

Ya know, I definatly see the point about the collums.. they don't look right, maybe I can fix that.. I noticed theres collums in the Elite 4 rooms in FR/LG, I might use their method. A rounded top, that ends basicly in a roof you see through.. Of course they won't look right if they are right on the walls.. Phoenix, think Roman Temple ^_-.. That was the idea for the Grass/Rock gym, the stylized palm is a destinctly Greek symbol.. I work at an art museum with an extensive Greek and Roman collection, sorry. =P Can't wait to get to the Fighting/Psychic gym, got some great ideas for it.

I do prefer the first Tropox, it's just better. I redid him just to make him stand, but it's not nearly as good.. Let me get my new starters profected, still playing around with the water one, then I'll scan the sketches.. They are Grass/Grass/Grass-Fighting, Water/Water/Water-Poison and Fire/Fire/Fire-Dark.. Though, I'm not so sure I really like my fire one..... Maybe it's just my ante-eater look'n ones are so cool ^_-

[Dawson]

I'lltry to think of a new design and layout for the grass/rock gym then.
Another new screen I thought I'll show ya. As some of you know, I'm really picky about my maps and am constantly changing ones I've already done when I think of ways to improve them. This is the first gym town redone, and final! I really like this one now and this will not change. Post your opinions.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/NormalTown.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/NormalTown2.png

[Booda Sack]

Kick *** stuff phoenix.
Can't wait to play it.

[Dawson]

Thanks alot Booda, it means alot coming from you.

[cigarettes]

Those screens are really cool keep it up and do you have your games demo :D

[Dawson]

We're still working up to a demo. I'm tying up all the loose ends, map wise. SaintBeast is making good work with chipsets and all other graphical aspects so we're moving rapidly to a demo.

[RM2K3kid]

Nice map work! I can't wait to see more!

[DarkPegasus]

So,whens the demo?D-a-m-n 25 letters...

[Nintendos Main Executive]

So,whens the demo?D-a-m-n 25 letters...Their will be no demo becaus e this game is shut down or face trouble with us

[cigarettes]

What this game will not be shut down you can't do that *cries*

[Demonion]

he is just a faker so just ignore him

[Dawson]

Their will be no demo becaus e this game is shut down or face trouble with us
So your Nintendo's lead executive?...hmmm...For some reason I don't believe you. Maybe it's because you chose to register as Nintendos Main Executive. Maybe it's because your grammar is crap. Maybe it's because of all the staff working at Nintendo worldwide, I doubt that they're Main Executive would be informing me, via a fan forum, without informing me of any sort of law.

What this game will not be shut down you can't do that *cries*
Don't worry, this game will continue until I'm issued with a possible lawsuit.

So,whens the demo?D-a-m-n 25 letters...
We're still working for a release date.

[santadidit102]

Their will be no demo becaus e this game is shut down or face trouble with us


u really beileve this guy?

XD

god ur gullable

[DarkMage31]

Don't beleive him he's really Cigarettes.

[jyaltma]

Woohoo clever one there... I'd hate to think Nintendo's Main Executive has such poor grammar. You'd think he'd at least have mastered the english language before becoming main executive.

Anyways to get back on topic, those screenshots and the new pokemon look pretty sweet! Keep up the good work!

[Tentachu]

What this game will not be shut down you can't do that *cries*


cigarettes, you're probably better off talking into a mirror... :D

[Akio123]

I can not wait to see the full version. I gotta to see it! Good Job!

[Barry]

Well first of all, Nintendo Main Executive is cigarettes... second... I don't think the main executive would come to this forum, let alone type with such poor spelling, grammar, and punctuation.

Great job with the game Phoenix. Seems as though 'Nintendo Main Executive' is just a member that thinks your game is too much competition and is trying to shut it down. Two words Mr. Executive: Good luck.

[SaintBeast]

Haha, we have competators? Yay, that when you know your doing a good job!

Me on the other had, has been slacking recently >.<.. After the holidays I will get back to it hard again. Hey Phoenix, do you want to make our forum on Hidden Depths available to the public? I was thinking of setting up an excoboard to see if it could do us better, it's really editable and I know how to use it well having formerly been an adminstrator on one. I don't know how editable ours is.

Anyways! I need to at least make a banner tommarow, now that I have both player images to work with. Here they are peoples!
http://server5.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=MaleTrnr001.png
http://server5.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=FemTrnr001.png

Anyways.. Since this game is free and all, theres nothing Nintendo could do. They might threaten, but it'd be empty threats.. The best they could do is pay us to stop, but I doubt thats likely. Probly wouldn't care one way or another, they are still going to sell the Gameboy DS new Pokemon games.

[DMMP]

Not Gameboy DS, Nintendo has made it clear, that this is not in the gameboy line of systems. This is the Nintendo DS! The Last Gameboy system was the SP. Eventually, there will be another, but, for now, we have a Nintendo DS, not a Gameboy. (Sorry, I'm a proud DS owner, and have been since the day, erm, the morning of its release (3:00 am, I picked it up, on the day of release, nov 21st))

[Sorye HK]

I liked those pictures of the main characters. Male looks quite different though.

[Dawson]

Haha, we have competators? Yay, that when you know your doing a good job!

Me on the other had, has been slacking recently >.<.. After the holidays I will get back to it hard again. Hey Phoenix, do you want to make our forum on Hidden Depths available to the public? I was thinking of setting up an excoboard to see if it could do us better, it's really editable and I know how to use it well having formerly been an adminstrator on one. I don't know how editable ours is.

Anyways! I need to at least make a banner tommarow, now that I have both player images to work with. Here they are peoples!
http://server5.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=MaleTrnr001.png
http://server5.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=FemTrnr001.png

Anyways.. Since this game is free and all, theres nothing Nintendo could do. They might threaten, but it'd be empty threats.. The best they could do is pay us to stop, but I doubt thats likely. Probly wouldn't care one way or another, they are still going to sell the Gameboy DS new Pokemon games.
I don't think we should make the current forum available to the public because it has every current detail about the game. I'm fine about making an excoboard forum for public use. Although I think we should get the website done first. I reckon I should have it online early new year.
I reckon we might need a couple few staff, what do you reckon? Just a few people who know what they are doing and can help speed along the process.
BTW Have you checked out the map files? Have you needed to change anything or added anything else? Oh, and it's good to know your going to be working hard again, I'd like to see a few more Pokemon sprited, or even sketched.

I liked those pictures of the main characters. Male looks quite different though. Yeah, I think they're great as well. The heroes were supposed to look a bit different from Nintendo's ones, we like originality.

[SaintBeast]

I reckon you used that word "reckon" to much =P Hehe.

Eh, no I haven't been able to get myself to do much lately. I have been looking at our forum every day, so I've caught any changes. I need to get back to work, get back into the swing of it. I am excited about the game, just have to re-light my fire every now and then to get back to a project. The holidays have proven consumming, so when I do get time I really don't feel like it. If I don't feel into it I'll do a bad job. Just got to get some more rest truth be told, and quit having to worry about other stuff.. SOON!

[Sorye HK]

The heroes were supposed to look a bit different from Nintendo's ones, we like originality.
I meant that it looked a bit different from the male character in your sig.

[Dawson]

I reckon you used that word "reckon" to much =P Hehe.
I reckon your right ^_^;
I meant that it looked a bit different from the male character in your sig.
Now that you mention it...SaintBeast, can you make the arms and legs of the male darker to match the sprite?

[Barry]

Actually, I liked the character better than the sprite. The sprite's legs are bent out and his paints being so wide make him like fat. Maybe scrunch his pants together to make them look more like they do in the picture.

[SaintBeast]

Well, I decided to make a few changes along with the skin-tone, I think he looks alot better overall. Especialy the arm position... God I love flash, makes modifying so frigg'n easy.
http://images5.theimagehosting.com/MaleTrnr001.png

[DarkMage31]

Wow, looks great. The arm looks a little bent back though. Very well done

[PKMN_Sage]

I AM LOVIN THIS GAME!

So much originality is coming from here, it's really cool to see you guys work so hard! The trainer pic looks great, except(like DM said) the arm looks bent back more than it should be.

[Dawson]

Hey guys, a couple new screens I thought I'd show before the big update, I'm gonna make. This is Dawson Tunnel with Erika, the female hero. Avatar created the charset for me and it just looks awesome, doesn't it? The tunnel is a recreation of the tunnel from Pokemon Emerald (can't remember what it's called) with major and minor alterations and more directions to go.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/DawsonTunnel.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/DawsonTunnel2.png

[rubyrulez]

Wow! That is extremely detailed, and it looks awesome too. I also like that charset. You're doing a good job!

[DarkPegasus]

What maker are you using?That looks like it has more than 256 colors!

[Rm2k3Guy]

Phoenix is using rpg maker 2003 and i think this game looks really good, will their be a demo soon? :D

[Demonion]

Hey guys, a couple new screens I thought I'd show before the big update, I'm gonna make. This is Dawson Tunnel with Erika, the female hero. Avatar created the charset for me and it just looks awesome, doesn't it? The tunnel is a recreation of the tunnel from Pokemon Emerald (can't remember what it's called) with major and minor alterations and more directions to go.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/DawsonTunnel.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/DawsonTunnel2.png

Your mapping skills are great...really nice :)

[PKMN_Sage]

The tunnel looks great. Better than the 'official' tunnels from Nintendo! Is the chipset for it custom made?

[Sorye HK]

Nice mapping skills once again Phoenix.
Phoenix is using rpg maker 2003 and i think this game looks really good, will their be a demo soon?
Yes he is using rm2k3. The chipsets that are used have been converted into 256 color for use. You can use programs for example Paint Shop Pro to convert.

[SaintBeast]

Phoenix! That tunnel chipset looks great! Who did that, it's not one of mine. Put it on our forum so I can use it with some of my chipsets, it looks better than stock. Nice.

[Dawson]

Thanks for the comments guys, I appreciate it.
SaintBeast, I've uploaded it. Oh, and awesome banners man.
Okay, I've counted all the maps I've done so far, including houses etc, and it comes to 83. The maps are quite big as well, usually containing a route and a town. Anyway I plan to finish all of the Kanto maps (2 sea routes left) and Johto maps (3 towns, 5 routes) by the end of the day.
And happy new year everyone!!!!!

[Sorye HK]

Happy new years to everyone from me as well.
Anyway I plan to finish all of the Kanto maps (2 sea routes left) and Johto maps (3 towns, 5 routes) by the end of the day.
Does this mean that we can hope for a demo soon?

[Dawson]

Happy new years to everyone from me as well.

Does this mean that we can hope for a demo soon?
A demo is in progress. I know pretty much everything that I want to put in to the demo because it's going to show almost every feature. But since I started the CBS from scratch, It will be a little while longer than I had initially hoped, but it will be as polished as possible.

[rubyrulez]

Sounds cool! I'll be watching for that demo.

[PKMN_Sage]

A demo is in progress. I know pretty much everything that I want to put in to the demo because it's going to show almost every feature. But since I started the CBS from scratch, It will be a little while longer than I had initially hoped, but it will be as polished as possible.

Awesomeness! After all this waiting and tempting, we'll get to play! Judging by how long the last demo release was, this next one will be uber huge! Any idea when we'll get to check it out?

[Dawson]

Awesomeness! After all this waiting and tempting, we'll get to play! Judging by how long the last demo release was, this next one will be uber huge! Any idea when we'll get to check it out?
The last demo was extremely thin on features because I'd set a release date and rushed to try and meet it. I wont make the same mistake again. SaintBeast and I have got a lot of work to juggle around at the moment and we need to have it finished for the demo.
The aim and purpose of this demo is to, hopefully, surprise and impress people with the quality and substance of the features in the demo and to get people excited about it's production, which really is what all demo's should be like.

[Brittany]

The last demo was extremely thin on features because I'd set a release date and rushed to try and meet it. I wont make the same mistake again. SaintBeast and I have got a lot of work to juggle around at the moment and we need to have it finished for the demo.
The aim and purpose of this demo is to, hopefully, surprise and impress people with the quality and substance of the features in the demo and to get people excited about it's production, which really is what all demo's should be like.
I agree, and will be looking forward to your next demo ^_^

[RM2K3kid]

I'll give you a tip... never set a demo release date unless you have just some tiny things to do befor that date. I set a demo date and rushed it and guess what it turned out crap! Anyway this game is looking great! I'm looking forward to seeing all your features in action! Good luck!

[Neo-Dragon]

I was just looking over the last few pages- and i think that cave (on the 16th page?) is awesome. Good job, keep uo the good work, and i look foward to the demo. :)

[SaintBeast]

I'd like to get the introductory video done for the demo, it will introduce special characters, some new Pokemon and some forshadowing of your goal beyond the Pokemon League. I plan to make a flash animation, then use hypercam to record it as an .avi, inbead some music and boom. Though it won't be easy, luckily my 13yo brother is awesome with flash and he'll help with the animation (for a small fee).

You know, call be crazy, but I almost wish Nintendo would take a look at this thread. I'd like to know what they think of our work. ^_-

[TheAbsol]

Heh Nintendo and The Pokemon Company would love how this game but hate it for using some of their graphics.

[Dawson]

I'd like to get the introductory video done for the demo, it will introduce special characters, some new Pokemon and some forshadowing of your goal beyond the Pokemon League. I plan to make a flash animation, then use hypercam to record it as an .avi, inbead some music and boom. Though it won't be easy, luckily my 13yo brother is awesome with flash and he'll help with the animation (for a small fee).

You know, call be crazy, but I almost wish Nintendo would take a look at this thread. I'd like to know what they think of our work. ^_-

Wow, your even going to add the music yourself? I'm impressed! I programmed the damage calculations based on Nintendo's 'official' formula and gave it a test run using tackle and a couple of level 5 Pokemon as well as level 50 and 100, and the results seem to be quite accurate, so that's something to be pleased about ^_^

Anyway off to do a bit more work on the battle system and then I'm back on to mapping.

[Krazy_Meerkat]

Wow, your even going to add the music yourself? I'm impressed! I programmed the damage calculations based on Nintendo's 'official' formula and gave it a test run using tackle and a couple of level 5 Pokemon as well as level 50 and 100, and the results seem to be quite accurate, so that's something to be pleased about ^_^

Anyway off to do a bit more work on the battle system and then I'm back on to mapping.
Maybe you could help out in the battle sys thread.. Toothache is taking to long to do the same..

[Dawson]

Maybe you could help out in the battle sys thread.. Toothache is taking to long to do the same..
Well, I did offer to help out a while ago but nobody replied to me, so...

[mudkip9]

that story was really good!!

[Krazy_Meerkat]

Well, I did offer to help out a while ago but nobody replied to me, so...
Well I would like you to help out.. You are the only person that seems to have done something large to the battle system..
It's about time someone did something to help out, if it's not going to be toothache then perhaps you could lend a hand?

[Dawson]

Well I would like you to help out.. You are the only person that seems to have done something large to the battle system..
It's about time someone did something to help out, if it's not going to be toothache then perhaps you could lend a hand?
Well I haven't done anything to the public battle system, but I should be able to easily implement it somewhere into your code.
Anyway here's a little teaser SaintBeast made showing a part of a major event of the story:
http://images5.theimagehosting.com/Teaser001.1.gif

[PKMN_Sage]

Ooohh... Awww

Very nice, it's keeping my interest in the game, even though I haven't lost any. Wasn't there a video in progress for HD?

[Dawson]

Ooohh... Awww

Very nice, it's keeping my interest in the game, even though I haven't lost any. Wasn't there a video in progress for HD?
SB is in the progress of making the intro sequence which introduces the characters and whatnot and that'll be viewed as a movie as well.

[Brittany]

Schweet teaser. Definetly looking forward to this.

[DarkPegasus]

I see that you have changed your sig,very cool,is it one of the legendaries?

[Barry]

Yeah, you should help the battle sys thread :) It's kind of dying out. Great game so far. Deffinatly turning out to be another one of the better games on this site to me. One of the few I will actually play. :P

[RM2K3kid]

Well I sure am looking forward to playing your game! I love that pic in your sig phoenix316!

[Dawson]

That Pokemon is called Quetza or Quatzal, we're still unsure which name we prefer. It's the ancient God of Thunder and plays a part in the storyline and it is located in the aztec-style temple which was posted earlier.
RM2Kguy and PKMN Sage mentioned my sig in another thread but I didn't wanna reply there because I got reported last time, I wasn't just ignoring you.

[Rm2k3Guy]

Thats allright phoenix i shouldn't have really posted it their and how long until a demo i just can't wait :D

[PKMN_Sage]

It's cool man. I really like the design of it. Looks like it could be a relative of Rayquaza. I can't tell if it has any legs or not. Does it have a snake like body?

[DarkPegasus]

Quatzal is definitly better!You should use that one!

[Dawson]

I'll post a few screens today, since I can't do anything major at the moment I'm continuing the maps. Here's a few of a rural town:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/DayfloraVillage.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/DayfloraVillage2.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/DayfloraVillage3.png

[Omega Latios]

very nice screenies phoenix316 and the better name to legendary is Quatzal

[maximo]

Great game phoenix one of the best i think and who does those pokemon drawings.

A few questions what are you making this in and can you put some of the new pokemon on youre website to see and the download link on ya website dont work.

One more thing off the subject i got rm3k how do i put the pokemon charsets on.

[Sorye HK]

Some great screens yet again Phoenix.
to maximo: you make an event and double click on the blank box. For the player, go into database, hero.

[Brittany]

Da na na na na, I'm lovin it!

http://www.mcdonalds.hr/shared/logo.gif

[Dawson]

Thanks guys.
Maximo - SaintBeast makes the Pokemon
PKMN Sage - Quatzal is based off Quetzecotl, the God of Thunder. I think it's a serpent-type thing but it might have arms and legs.
Brittany - I love it :)

[RM2K3kid]

Nice screens! It's good to see the hero in action. Anyway good luck hope to see this finnished!

[Booda Sack]

**** fine screens.
I'm really digging that hero.

[TheAbsol]

In the second pic part of the tree is missing...

[maximo]

Quatzal should be an all fours type of pokemon but can stand up and kind of slants like groudon does.

[Brittany]

PKMN Sage - Quatzal is based off Quetzecotl, the God of Thunder. I think it's a serpent-type thing but it might have arms and legs.
Brittany - I love it :)
If I remember correctly, Quetzcotl is a GF in Final Fantasy VIII(of course, Square takes gods from every religeon thinkable and makes them summons XD)

[Dawson]

Thanks again for the comments guys.
Umbreon - Thanks, I can't believe I missed that.
Maximo - SaintBeast does all the Pokemon designs and he has them all concept drawn already so I don't think it'll change.
Here's a screen of one of those ice type puzzles you always get in RPG's. It's a bit bigger than usual Pokemon puzzles to make it a little bit harder.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Icepuzzle.png

[maximo]

Are you gonna have the normal elite four cause if youre having an elimanation like they do in the anime can i be one of the trainers.

Name: Nathan lafayette
Pokemon: Blaziken, Steelix, Umbreon
sprite: http://img124.exs.cx/img124/3018/nathan8se.gif

[Barry]

I sat here for a few minutes trying to find my way through that ice thing. I started myself at the door at the type. I couldn't find a way down to the bottom left corner. If that's where you are supposed to go, then that will be one big chalenge.

[rebellee1187]

Usually I don't post in these threads, but this game has motivated me to do so.

Firstly, yes, Quetzacotl is a GF in FF8. There, it was portrayed as a bird-ish thing, but who cares. Yours looks cool anyways. As for me, I prefer Quetzal as the name, but either name suits it great.

Finally, I'm really posting here to tell you that I think nintendos next generation is going to disappoint me. If your game ends up being as cool as it looks, i may never play Diamond/Pearl. This looks awesome.

Any chance I could be a beta tester?

[Kyledove]

except a quetzal is an amazonian bird, known for having the longest tail feathers in the world, so I doubt that would work...Btw Quetzacotl was also in older final fantasies =p
but awesome screenshots!
(Im not 100% sure on this info)

[PKMN_Sage]

Man, this game has got me more excited than for Diamond and Pearl. I really can't wait to see what more you have in store for us!

[DMMP]

This, COL, and Liquid, have me most excited of all Fangames around here. All have things that have never been done before (in a grand scale), great mapping, an intriguing concept, and just a purely fun looking game. This is definitly one of my Must play games here.

[Blacktrooper]

Keep it up phoenix316 your doing well

[Dawson]

Maximo - Both will feature in the game and Siant Beast is doing all of the trainer sprites.
Barry - There is about 1/4 of the maze that you can't see on the screen shot, that's why you can't get through it. It turns out that the puzzle isn't as hard as I'd have presumed. There are 2 ways to get through, I only intentionally made one.

Thanks for the comments again guys, your gonna make me blush soon.:)

[maximo]

Can you ask him to make me then so i can be in the league.

[Avatar]

If I remember correctly, Quetzcotl is a GF in Final Fantasy VIII(of course, Square takes gods from every religeon thinkable and makes them summons XD)
Quetzalcoatl is a winged snake god from Aztec mythology, god of the stars, the wind, the sunrise and life.

Nice screens Phoenix, looking forward to the Hidden Depths :)

[Dawson]

Thanks Avatar.
Maximo - We don't plan on putting real people into the game. To be honest, it is a n00bish thing to do to try to attract attention to a thread. We are putting a few people in the game that have contributed to the game or have shown continued interest and comments in the thread. Plus, we have a lot more important things to get through first.

[maximo]

Cool i understand what can i give you to get in anyway i mean what do you need im im the internet everyday i'll be able to find somthing.

[Krazy_Meerkat]

Cool i understand what can i give you to get in anyway i mean what do you need im im the internet everyday i'll be able to find somthing.
Maximo you can't bribe him into adding you into his game.. He will choose people if he wants them in the game.

[PKMN_Sage]

Heh, I was gonna say the same thing to him. This isn't the only game maximo has "invited" himself into. If the game maker is asking for people to be in the game, then it's fine to put yourself there. But you can't just interject yourself into it. You're kind of imposing you know?

[DMMP]

I don't know if you have mentioned this or not (sorry, I have read the entire thread, but, I may have just forgotten), but, if there is a demo, when will its release be. If not, when will the final be. If you do not no, then do you have an estimate (around a month, etc...)

[Sorye HK]

I don't know if I'm going a bit over the top, but could you post the entire ice maze section of the map? I'm like dying to find a way to get through it.

[Dawson]

Krazy and PKMN Sage are right. I just noticed that Maximo was trying to get himself into Pokemon Life as well. Nevermind, it was a nice try to get yourself into a game without putting in any effort.

DMMP:-There will be a demo. Release will be...erm...when it's ready. We're looking to impress with this demo, graphically and technically. We want to leave you wanting more.

Daegon:-Ask and you shall receive! I'm planning to make a few more of these in the other regions, so I'd appreciate feedback on the design and difficulty. Here it is, sorry about the events but...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/IcePuzzleexpanded.png

[maximo]

Whatever :( im not sad
Its fine

[Dawson]

You may want to edit all of those smilies out of your post before a mod sees it, they don't like over use of smilies. And why have you posted those images?

[Mr Cat Dog]

maximo - Of course you're not sad XD

Anyways, I've been flicking through these 19 pages, and whoo, have you got a game here XD This seems to have everything, and I congratulate your every effort. I know this game will turn out great, no matter how long it takes. Patience is a virtue, as the saying goes XD

[maximo]

Its a gift i dont want to be in the game anymore anyway

[Dawson]

Mr Cat Dog:- Thank you, it's always nice to see new posters in the thread. SaintBeast and I are constantly looking for new things to add and areas to improve so hopefully we can keep you interested.

Maximo:- Thanks, but SaintBeast is my spriter and I would'nt really have any use for those things. Thanks anyway, though.

[rebellee1187]

I like the ice cave map. You are aware that there are two paths though, right? It wasn't too difficult, but that was because I could see the whole scene at once. Without it it might be more difficult.

Lovin this game. Lookin forward to the demo!

[Dawson]

Yeah I did notice there were two paths. There were a lot more unintentional paths at first that you could use and I managed to remove most of them. Thanks for the comments.

[PKMN_Sage]

I'm confused. Where does the player start? At the top or the bottom entrance?

[Dawson]

I'm confused. Where does the player start? At the top or the bottom entrance?
The player comes out of that part of the cave, goes down the puzzle and to the next area of the cave. I should'a made that clear.

[Sorye HK]

I've been working on it for 20mins but I can't find a path to reach the bottom...
There are a lot of ways to reach the top from the bottom though.

[PKMN_Sage]

Same here. I found ways to get from the bottom to the top but there doesn't seem to be a way to get to the bottom. Phoenix, did you mean that we start at the bottom and work our way to the exit at the top?

[Dawson]

Lol, I guess it's harder than I thought. You start from the top after you come out of the cave and you work your way to the bottom. There is a way to do it, I've just treble checked it and Rebellee did it easily enough. Anyway, back to work now.

[PKMN_Sage]

You never know, rebellee could've done it the other way around. :)

[rebellee1187]

Heh, I DID do it wrong the first time. But I went back through again (from the top) and I DID find the way. I'd post my solution, but I bet Pheonix would rather let you guys work a little while longer before someone shows the solution...

HINT: Walk Straight Down to start.

Loved the puzzle, hope you post more!

[Dawson]

Heh, I DID do it wrong the first time. But I went back through again (from the top) and I DID find the way. I'd post my solution, but I bet Pheonix would rather let you guys work a little while longer before someone shows the solution...

HINT: Walk Straight Down to start.

Loved the puzzle, hope you post more!

Glad you liked it and you found the right way. I'd prefer to allow the other members to have achance at solving it before posting the solution.
I'll be sure to post some more of them for y'all.

[Mr Cat Dog]

I can get to the left entrance dead easily... but I'm assuming it's the right one that we need to get to. That one seems impossible! AAAAAAAARGH! XD

[Avatar]

I found the way, it's tricky at first, but once you actually find the solution it's easy.

Nice one, if there's more than one of these in the game it's gonna be fun :P

[Barry]

I finally found a way too. It's very tricky. You just have to use your head. Best hint I can give. It's not just simple sliding to the next place you see. Otherwise you'll end up going in circles.

Good luck =) It's difficult. Difficult indeed. Took me longer to figure out that official ones so good job.

[Esai]

I've fnd a wy 2. Lk Barry sez it ant da obvs rte.
It dfclt gd jb, if da pzls r gna be as hrd as dat, da gme wl b fn!

Ive found a way too. Like barry says it isnt the obviouse route. Its difficult good job. If all the puzzles are going to be as hard as that the game will be very enjoyable and fun!

[Mr Cat Dog]

FOUND IT! I feel so proud now that I've finally completed it. Very well constructed ^_~

[Dawson]

lol, I'm glad you're all figuring it at. I just hope you forget the solution when you come to play it!:) I'll post a few updated screens of Firfrost Town and Cave for now.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/SnowRoute.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/FirfrostTown.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/IceCave.png

[Rm2k3Guy]

Great screens phoenix :D :D

[Esai]

lol il prbly fgt da sltn 2mro. Da scrns lk cl da cvs r amzng. The snw s v. rlstc! I lk da fhng spts idea.

lol i'll probably forget the solution tomorrow. The screens look cool the caves are amazing. And the snow is realistic! I like the fishing spots idea.

[DarkPegasus]

Very cool,but I don't understand one thing how come there are flowers in the snow?

[rebellee1187]

As usual, i have been blown away. I absolutely LOVE the fishing spots idea in the ice. They are so 'cool'.

All puns aside, this game looks awesome. Now all I'll have to do is just 'chill' until it comes out.

[PKMN_Sage]

I thought about fishing on ice with only a hole of water open before. It's cool that you got the same idea phoenix! Screens looks great, and as always, so are your mapping skills!

[Dawson]

Thanks for the comments guys!
Very cool,but I don't understand one thing how come there are flowers in the snow?
Genetic mutation provided the flowers with the ability to use the moisture from the snow as nourishment to grow and artificial lighting provided from above the town to allow the plants to go through the process of photosynthesis.;)

Truth: The map looked plain with just trees so I colored the flower petals blue and voila, snow flowers.

PKMN Sage - That's an idea both SaintBeast and I shared as well. I guess 'Great minds think alike.' :)

[Barry]

That's great. I was hoping you could fish in that hole. So there will be special ice type Pokemon in it I presume?

[Krazy_Meerkat]

Wow Phoenix, your game just gets kooler everytime I see it.. Great ideas you got here! I'll be awaiting a demo patiently *sits*

[Sorye HK]

I like those little piles of snow and twinkling bits of snow falling. They remind me of snowflakes. I'd also like to say congrats on the great maze. The dougnhut covering a part of it really helped. Hope to see more of those in the game.

[RM2K3kid]

Wow nice. I like the holes in the ice. Well good luck and all!

[Dawson]

Thanks again guys!

Barry: - Of course. The fishing spot is for a few ice/water Pokemon. And to find a few secrets.
Krazy: - I hope you wont have to wait too long ;)
Daegon: - Doughnut?

[Mr Cat Dog]

*sits quietly and whistles away until the demo comes in*

But seriously, is there anything this game hasn't got? Well... apart from a jetpack. XD I wonder if he's going to implement that into his game XD

[Sorye HK]

Barry: - Of course. The fishing spot is for a few ice/water Pokemon. And to find a few secrets.
Krazy: - I hope you wont have to wait too long
Daegon: - Doughnut?
While I was eating a doughnut, a piece of it fell on the map and I found the way out of the maze. Sorry to confuse all of you.

[Rm2k3Guy]

Donuts . . . what can't they do? :P

[Neo-Dragon]

I can't think of any possibly way to get out of that Ice cave MAZE-(i'm starting from the top of the map).....

[Demonion]

I'm still trying to find a way through too

[DMMP]

I figured it out. Here is a hint... Try going over your own footsteps...

[Dawson]

lol, I thought everyone had figured it out now. Well, as DMMP said, if you keep going in the same direction you'll just be going in circles.

[Demonion]

Hmm i suddenly saw that i missed a possibility and i found one way through the maze now :) When solving this kind of thing its helpful if you start at the end and think/move back.

[PKMN_Sage]

When I couldn't figure out how to get out of the maze, it was because I kept doing many of the same things over again. If you notice your mistakes then you'll see what you've left out.

[Pichuscute]

This game AWESOME the best game I have ever seen ^_^ I can`t wait until your finished
by the way how the heck do you finish the ice puzzle i`m stumped :\