Pokemon: Hidden Depths

[TheAbsol]

Dude...there will be better games than this in the future...I think Pokemon C.O.L. and this are the best they tie for first place. But the innovative-ness of using Sphere helps Booda's game.

[DMMP]

My top 3 are This, COL, and Liquid (not particularly in that order). All 3, seem like they'll be better than the real games.

[TheAbsol]

They all are better than the real games. Fan games rule :O !

[Maximo v.2]

Hi its me maximo but in my new account im sorry for all the hassle i gave everybody last time nut im a new person now.

Great game i final figgured out the ice cave.

[Demonion]

My top 3 are This, COL, and Liquid (not particularly in that order). All 3, seem like they'll be better than the real games.

I 100% agree with you DMMP, Call of Latios, Liquid and Hidden Depths are the best games currently being made here.

[PKMN_Sage]

This game doesn't deserve to sink into the numerous unactive threads at Game Development! What's the news phoenix? Any new screens or updates?

[Dawson]

Wow, I'm very flattered that you guys hold my game in such high regard. It's an honor to have HD viewed as great as Liquid and c.o.l, 2 games I have admired from the very beginning.

PKMN Sage:- Not much to show at the moment, busy workload and social life have been getting in the way. I've recently been writing the story in the detail as well as planning where the sidequests will come in. I've also been trying to find a color scheme for my PokeGear that I actually like. So not much done in terms of programming but the game on a whole is progressing.

[rm2kdude]

thats good news.
DAMMMMN this 25 letter thing its very annoying.

[Mr Cat Dog]

No need to be so modest Phoenix. This game is amazing. But don't be afraid to take your time. As long as it's perfect, you won't get an angry mob running after you ^_^ And you wouldn't want that happening in Birmingham would you ^_~

[Fangking Omega]

Being new to this area, I've only just checked this out. Shame on me! I think it's worth pointing out that your map designs are pure brilliance. Detail and proportion looks just right.

Comparing it to the likes of COL and Liquid sounds about right to me in terms of ambition. Where this one excels over the other 2 (IMO, don't kill me plzkthx) is the map making. Good luck with this one!

[DMMP]

I think COL has the best maps, and just an all out, cool "look and feel" to the whole thing. Liquid, brings some new features to the table, and does stuff that should have been done long ago, in some new settings, with some new ideas. This game brings in new settings, new pokemon, and some other new ideas, and brings them in a great package. All 3 have there benifits, and reasons to like them. I wouldn't edge out any one of these 3 over the other. All 3 have excellent maps, stories, ideas, new things, regions, and things that just seem like the games will be immensly fun.

[Matt]

omg... if u can do this, you'll be my god.. but we'll see how this turns out ;)

All Links doesn't work!!!

PLZ get new demo , with does link!!!
i want play !!! this is the best the greatest game of the world!!! :rambo:

[PKMN_Sage]

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that English is not your native language. :)

Anyways, don't ask for a demo as phoenix does not want to rush the progress of the game. Just be patient, and at the end of it all will be a real nice reward. :)

[Matt]

but i see all post in this thread.
see link with demo game.but this link doesn't work!!!
and i want get first demo or what u want!!!

[Esai]

It probably got removed as it is an old demo, i think now most people are not going to rush the demos or only release the full version, because rushed games are rubbish generally. I rushed mine and forgot to check bugs.

Keep working at a good pace pheonix, this game is really good!

[Matt]

Hey Phoenix can u Send me your chipset\charset\Battle charset\monster
i take u full credit.

thanks for that with up.

[Rm2k3Guy]

I don't think phoenix would give all of his own made resources to some one he probally does not know

[Matt]

yes but i am new :)

i am play a pokemon with the start in GBC roms :)

now i am start my hack.Want only Chipset beacuse i cant find them in net ;(

[Esai]

you cant use chipsets in a hack but check the general dev resources thread (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=28501) for all resources including loads of chipsets

[stunt296]

Where can i download a demo???

[Blaziken Trainer]

Yeah, it sounds good. Where can I get some good roms?

[Barry]

Yeah, it sounds good. Where can I get some good roms?

Well you will never get any roms from this game. To my awareness, it's not a hack.

I hope you can continue to work (and if you havn't then maybe you can start working) in a stress free zone.

Edit: (to below) This message is about Hidden Depths if you were talking to me. I was hoping that Pheonix could work in a stress free zone on his game.

[PKMN_Sage]

This thread is going off topic. Please don't post in here about resources or ROMs. Don't post unless it has to do something with Hidden Depths. Phoenix has not posted an update, therefore, there is no need to be posting.

[Matt]

hehe good game , good Battle System , good maps and this all are good.
when u want to finished game ?

[Sorye HK]

when u want to finished game ?
As I've already said, you need patience. It's obvious that this game is comming along well, but I don't think that we'll have a completed game for us quite yet.

[Matt]

lol u have patience , and more than this!!!
u think if u r mod u can said this!!!

[Sorye HK]

No need to get angry. I merely pointed out the fact that people here usually take time with these things. To do their best on their projects.

[Matt]

yes i only ask when they finish game!!!
CANT ASK?

[Sorye HK]

yes i only ask when they finish game!!!
CANT ASK? I never said that. I just said that as they've still probably got a long way to go, so you should wait for the deadline patiently. Sorry if I offended you.

[Matt]

no problem friend :)
BTW. No more patience :P

[PKMN_Sage]

Hopefully you meant that you are no longer impatient.

[Fangking Omega]

How misconstantuated X.x

Yeah, we all look forward to the day of release. I can't understand at all why this only has a 4 star rating... lesse...

[Dawson]

I finally had time to get some work done today. Nothing major but progress is progress.
Here is my favorite Gym so far in the whole game, the ghost/dark gym. It may not look too great from the screen but when it's being played it looks a whole lot better. The little blue flames on the ground flicker and the curtains wave gently. There is also a Final Fantasy style switch puzzle in order to get to the gym leader. And I've got some eerie music to add to the effect.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/GhostDarkGym.png


This is GrungeWater Town. Some of the more senior members will recognise this as I posted it a few months back. Now though, the chipset has been updated and events have been added. This is a sidequest where you have to rebuild the Town, similar to Luin in ToS.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/GrungeWaterMace.png

And this is just a random screenshot.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/RouteSea.png

[rubyrulez]

Those screens are totally awesome! I can't wait to see more! :)

[Mr Cat Dog]

Yay! Screenshots! But if the Gym looks that good in teh screenshot, I can't wait to see it in the real thing ^_^ Keep up the great work Phoenix.

[PKMN_Sage]

Awesome stuff. I remember Grungewater Town, just didn't know we had to repair the damages, that makes it even better! I'm really loving the gym, looks like the best gym I've seen from any fanmade game! Nothing much to say on the third screen though. Great update, I would have liked to seen more considering how long we've been without one, but you probably been really busy! Life is life.

[Esai]

The screens arnt awesome... they're better ;) they are amazing. I like the gym :)

[Neo-Dragon]

love the screens Phoenix. I like the feeling of the destroyed town.
good job.
I always look foward to seeing screens from you.

[Fangking Omega]

I'm once again impressed with your map work :D

The destroyed town is really booshank. No other words are suitable. The Gym's REALLY awesome too. Keep it up! Can't wait for more sheck.

[Dawson]

Thanks for the comments guys!
Great update, I would have liked to seen more considering how long we've been without one, but you probably been really busy! Life is life.
Well, I've actually done quite a bit moer but you can't really show them in the form of a screenshot. I'm still awaiting on SB to finish the intro video. If all goes according to plan the video should be well worth the wait. And I've finally found a decent amount of time because I wont be at college or work this work so I should be able to get some progress for you guys.

[Sorye HK]

Great as ever, pheonix. I'd like to see that game in screen later when the game's out.

[Matt]

great screens.How much u have maps and pokemons now? Plz fast answer :)

[Dawson]

great screens.How much u have maps and pokemons now? Plz fast answer :)
116 maps completed. I can't comment on the Pokemon until I speak to SaintBeast.

[Avatar]

Excellent mapping as usual, I like it.

I like idea of having to rebuild a destroyed town it'll add some extra fun to the game :D

[PKMN_Sage]

Great progress as usual phoenix! 116 maps? How big is the file now?

@ SaintBeast: If you see this, could you post more. It would be great to hear about what you've been doing alongside phoenix. :)

[Dawson]

Thanks guys!

The file is at 39mb at the moment. But I'll cut that down quite alot when I get rid of all the unnecessary pictures, chip/charsets and music files.
I'd like SaintBeast to post more often as well. However, I speak to him a couple of weeks ago and he doesn't get much time to spend doing his graphics because of personal issues being his major priority. But once he gets everything steady again I'm sure he'll be posting regularly again.

[Jeff_PKLight]

Wow, I say this is really doing well! Keep up the good work!

[Mr Cat Dog]

39MB!!! That is a big file! XD But, hopefully once you get all teh pointless fluff out then it should be an acceptable size ^_~

[RM2K3kid]

lol that is big! liquid is only 3mb.. but i guess i only have 10-15 music files(don't worry I haven't got around to music) and all my images are .xyz format. Anyway I think your game is rather nicely done. I can't wait to play it! Good luck!

[Matt]

39 MB? Great file , My pokemon have only 12 MB :P.Cant wait for play :))))))))
Amazing Work Phoenix :)))))

Thanks Matt

[Dawson]

I just cut the size down to 6mb in a matter of seconds. It turns out that I had a few font files, which are about 8mb themselves, from when I was trying to fix the font. So now it's a decent size and like I said once I get rid of all the unused stuff I could probably cut that down by another megabyte.

[Matt]

And u want relase the demo?
Cant wait for screens , Play :)

[PKMN_Sage]

Matt, why do you constantly ask for a demo. Just let phoenix release it when he feels that it is necessary.

Phoenix, have you checked your music/sound file? Those things usually raise the size when they aren't even being used. And have you've tried a program that cuts the size down by deleting unnecessary/unused files?

[Avatar]

It seems like everyone has an issue with filesize, I prefer to put the music folder in a seperate zip from the game itself (mainly so people with slower connections don't have to worry about large filesize), as the music is not optional while playing, but it's a nice addition.

[Dawson]

Well like I said the file size is only 6mb now so that isn't exactly a big issue. And it's size will only be relevant when it's ready to be downloaded.

PKMN Sage - Cool Sig, it sounds great!

[PKMN_Sage]

Thanks phoenix. BTW, I sent you a PM.

I think Avatar's idea is great. Download the music as a seperate zipfile is genius!

[Maximo v.2]

Well im posting now i wanna get myself known and i just want to say im supporting you i may have not been following you as much as everyone else im just really busy so never give up on youre dreams and aim for the gold.

[Dawson]

I've decided to post some info on some of the important characters. Although the game is pretty much the same whether you choose to be a boy or a girl, certain parts will be played out differently to coincide with their personality and goals.

~Damien~ The male hero

Damien is a 15 year old boy from Farebloom Town. Damien has always been interested in Pokemon and from a very age showed that he was gifted in handling Pokemon. He spent a lot of time at Dirk's lab helping to tame and befriend all the wild Pokemon that Dirk had brought in. Damien struck up a particular bond with the first Pokemon Dirk ever showed him. It was always Damien's dream to travel the world and meet as many different species of Pokemon as possible. However, a few years ago, Damien's father walked out on him and his mother. Consequently, Damien's mother couldn't cope with the distress and the strain that it had caused and suffered a breakdown. Damien was forced into becoming a stronger, more independant person and cared for his mother as well as taking responsibility for the general running of the house. Fortunately now things are starting to get back back to normal with Damien's mother being back at full health and looking to the future.

~Madison~ The female hero

Madison is a 15 year old girl from Farebloom Town. Madison's ambition in life is to move from Farebloom Town to one of the big cities where there is more excitement. Madison's interest in Pokemon began about 4 years ago, shortly after her mother died. With her father also distraught, she turned to Pokemon for comfort. She began spending more and more time in Dirk's lab to try to get herself through such a difficult time. While spending so much time in the lab, she struck up a life long bond with one particular Pokemon. Now, both Madison and her father have moved on and put their past pain behind them and have looked to the future and decided to try to achieve their dreams.

~Dirk~

Researcher Dirk has spent his entire life studying Pokemon artefacts. He has tried to figure out the link that connects all Pokemon together as well as the reason for their existance. Now that he has grown weary of travelling the world looking for more subjects to research, and concluding that his original task was impossible for just one man, he resides in the quaint atmosphere of Farebloom Town where he spends his leisure time studying the masses of strange objects that he collected on his travels in the hope that, just possibly, he could uncover one of the many mysteries of the Pokemon.

~Azzy~

Azzy is a sassy, energetic 14 year old Pokemon trainer from Dayflora Town. She admires all of the great Pokemon Trainers that have become famous and is desperate to replicate the fame and fortune that they have achieved with their Pokemon. Fame is her biggest goal and she will do anything if she believes that it will help her become more famous, even if it means taking shortcuts or making poor decisions and character judgements. Overall, she is a nice helpful girl, even if she is a little bit too headstrong and determined for success.

~Mace~

Mace is a calm, intelligent 16 year old wannabe Gym Leader from Johto. He believes he has the necessary attributes and Pokemon skills to become one of the greatest Gym Leaders ever. Mace is very methodical and is very often the voice of reason or the saviour whenever Azzy or Kyte have problems or get into trouble. He has a talent to look at situations from many different perspectives to find the best solution. He also has a strong affinity with nature and considers anyone that tries to destroy any part of nature a sworn enemy. He is also very interested in ancient Pokemon ruins.

~Kyte~

Kyte is a cute, playful 12 year old Pokemon lover from Heyspark City. Her idol is Suzie, the great Pokemon breeder. Kyte loves the cuteness and inner beauty of Pokemon and wants to become a Pokemon breeder to help all Pokemon to become as happy as possible. She also admires Azzy's determination and considers her a great role model and tries to base her attitude on Azzy's. She can be very gullible at times, which often leads to her getting into trouble that she can't cope with.

[Sorye HK]

I'm sure it took some time typing all that. Anyway, I like the info. that you've provided. Maybe you could use that in some kind of prologue or something in your game. For example, showing short scenes of each of there past.

[Dawson]

Maybe you could use that in some kind of prologue or something in your game. For example, showing short scenes of each of there past.
That's the rough idea for the intro video. I'd like to have character specific videos as well for that reason.

[Avatar]

Very nice and detailed description, as Daegon mentioned you should use it in a prologue.
Looking forward to future updates :)

[Maximo v.2]

Sounds good my favourite is the male trainer.

So if you pick male would youre rival be female or male

[PKMN_Sage]

Well written phoenix! It's great that you put a background story on each character because many fan programmers don't. What's the status report on the intro vid?

[Mr Cat Dog]

Very well done on teh writing side of things. ^_^ Gives the audience a bit mmore background info. Well done. But... an intro video would be nice XD Just kidding, take your time and stuff.

[Rhykasho]

I've decided to post some info on some of the important characters. Although the game is pretty much the same whether you choose to be a boy or a girl, certain parts will be played out differently to coincide with their personality and goals.

~Damien~ The male hero

Damien is a 15 year old boy from Farebloom Town. Damien has always been interested in Pokemon and from a very age showed that he was gifted in handling Pokemon. He spent a lot of time at Dirk's lab helping to tame and befriend all the wild Pokemon that Dirk had brought in. Damien struck up a particular bond with the first Pokemon Dirk ever showed him. It was always Damien's dream to travel the world and meet as many different species of Pokemon as possible. However, a few years ago, Damien's father walked out on him and his mother. Consequently, Damien's mother couldn't cope with the distress and the strain that it had caused and suffered a breakdown. Damien was forced into becoming a stronger, more independant person and cared for his mother as well as taking responsibility for the general running of the house. Fortunately now things are starting to get back back to normal with Damien's mother being back at full health and looking to the future.

~Madison~ The female hero

Madison is a 15 year old girl from Farebloom Town. Madison's ambition in life is to move from Farebloom Town to one of the big cities where there is more excitement. Madison's interest in Pokemon began about 4 years ago, shortly after her mother died. With her father also distraught, she turned to Pokemon for comfort. She began spending more and more time in Dirk's lab to try to get herself through such a difficult time. While spending so much time in the lab, she struck up a life long bond with one particular Pokemon. Now, both Madison and her father have moved on and put their past pain behind them and have looked to the future and decided to try to achieve their dreams.

~Dirk~

Researcher Dirk has spent his entire life studying Pokemon artefacts. He has tried to figure out the link that connects all Pokemon together as well as the reason for their existance. Now that he has grown weary of travelling the world looking for more subjects to research, and concluding that his original task was impossible for just one man, he resides in the quaint atmosphere of Farebloom Town where he spends his leisure time studying the masses of strange objects that he collected on his travels in the hope that, just possibly, he could uncover one of the many mysteries of the Pokemon.

~Azzy~

Azzy is a sassy, energetic 14 year old Pokemon trainer from Dayflora Town. She admires all of the great Pokemon Trainers that have become famous and is desperate to replicate the fame and fortune that they have achieved with their Pokemon. Fame is her biggest goal and she will do anything if she believes that it will help her become more famous, even if it means taking shortcuts or making poor decisions and character judgements. Overall, she is a nice helpful girl, even if she is a little bit too headstrong and determined for success.

~Mace~

Mace is a calm, intelligent 16 year old wannabe Gym Leader from Johto. He believes he has the necessary attributes and Pokemon skills to become one of the greatest Gym Leaders ever. Mace is very methodical and is very often the voice of reason or the saviour whenever Azzy or Kyte have problems or get into trouble. He has a talent to look at situations from many different perspectives to find the best solution. He also has a strong affinity with nature and considers anyone that tries to destroy any part of nature a sworn enemy. He is also very interested in ancient Pokemon ruins.

~Kyte~

Kyte is a cute, playful 12 year old Pokemon lover from Heyspark City. Her idol is Suzie, the great Pokemon breeder. Kyte loves the cuteness and inner beauty of Pokemon and wants to become a Pokemon breeder to help all Pokemon to become as happy as possible. She also admires Azzy's determination and considers her a great role model and tries to base her attitude on Azzy's. She can be very gullible at times, which often leads to her getting into trouble that she can't cope with.

This game is sounding really intresting, the idea about a intro movie is great :D (I cant wait for it)

[Maximo v.2]

Will we see the video before the game comes out and will we be able to download extensions for the game like booda has

[Dawson]

Guys, I've got something new to show you all. As you can see from the image, it's a sunken city. Another original and unique part of the game! As you should know by now I don't like posting whole maps and I usually post in game screens, but since the charsets for underwater aren't done yet it wouldn't have looked right. I've actually done quite a lot over the past few days, but I'll keep the rest as a secret for now ;) As you know by now, feedback and constructive criticism are always welcome.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Acropolis.png

Maximo - The video will be released before the game as an incentive to play the game and there will be no downloadable extras.

[Rm2k3Guy]

**** (soz mods) that is cool i have no criticism at all that is wicked phoenix :D :D :D

[Neo-Dragon]

OH YEAH, THATS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT lol..
that looks awesome. Good map work (ur using RM2k3 right- cause if you are, thats awesome).
I look foward to see how this will be folded into the story of your game.
The "damage" on the buildings look cool, that does help create the feel that the area is wrecked...
Oh, and ofcourse, I'm looking foward to seeing what your other serect updates were (i'm sure your waiting until you've fully finished what the update is before you post screens) .
As you can tell from my post, I'm even more hyped over your game.
Keep it up Phoenix....

[Jeff_PKLight]

Holy cow!!!!! :o

THAT'S SWEET!...

[Dawson]

Thanks for the comments guys, they're always appreciated!

[Krazy_Meerkat]

Another great piece of work Phoenix, keep it up :D

[PKMN_Sage]

Great mapping on your part phoenix, and I applaud SaintBeast on the chipset! Adding a little algea(sp?) on the buildings would add to the believability, but it still looks great as is! Everytime I visit PC, I always check first to see if this thread has been updated. I just can't wait to see this game unleashed to the public! Awesome and amazing work as always!

[Omega Latios]

nice work Phoenix the underwater town is amazing

[Sorye HK]

I know I said this before, but great work phoenix.

[Dawson]

Thanks again guys, it's really fulfilling to read all of your responses.

Neo-Dragon - Yeah, this is being made in rm2k3.

[Avatar]

Very nice mapping, as PKMN_Sage suggested, some algae on the buildings would add a nice touch to the sunken city.

[DarkMage31]

kickass as always (I don't feel guilty about writing that now that I'm not a mod ;))

Now, to make underwater more believeable, there are several things:
-There has to be a sense of undulation. Water has waves, and I imagine that this is a pretty expansive body of water to fit a sunken town. A few wavering semi-transparent overlays should do the trick. Hopefully a lower picture value than your menu so its not harder to read.

-cool lighting effects. try boosting the graphical prowess further by adding another semi-transparent overlay of some light. We've all seen those underwater pictures of how beams of light penetrate the water in such a beautiful way

Adding stuff like refraction and image distortion is over the top, but those two should do the trick :-D

[Dawson]

Great! Thanks PKMN Sage, Avatar and DM, I've been waiting a while now to get some constructive criticism. I was beginning to think that people were a little afraid to post where they think could be improved. You're comments will be brought into consideration when I edit the map and chipset. Thanks!

[PKMN_Sage]

Always here to help! I'm glad that you found our suggestions helpful. Keep up the great work phoenix!

[Jirachi3]

where can I get the rm2k3 to help with any future hacks?

[Krazy_Meerkat]

Well I think that maybe it's a bit too far underwater to be able to see the surface.. Perhaps some bubbles would suffice?

[Sorye HK]

there is no way that you can get rm2k3 to help with rom hacking.

[Jirachi3]

really? I used to have one and then my computer crashed.

[Dawson]

RM2K3 and rom hacking are in no way related to each other.

[DarkMage31]

KM's right, bubbles would be cool. occasionally have some bubbles float from the bottom to the top of the screen. that would be cool!

[Jirachi3]

RM2K3 and rom hacking are in no way related to each other.


sorry for bothering you then! ;)

[Maximo v.2]

I've said it once and i'll say it again im behind you 100 (percent sign) keep going i cant waitr to play this im gonna pick pyroati hes the best are there new attacks aswell

[Dawson]

Yes, there will be new attacks for every Pokemon type to, erm, even the playing surface a little bit. DM, bubbles were something I was planning. I was also thinking about small schools of fish passing by every so often.

[Maximo v.2]

That will be cool maybe wingull flying pass or pokemon walking with there trainers

[Krazy_Meerkat]

Wasn't there a ledge near kurt's house?

[Dawson]

Wasn't there a ledge near kurt's house?
Eh? Since when has Kurt's house been 500ft under water? I think you may have posted this in the wrong thread, Krazy. ;)

[Krazy_Meerkat]

Eh? Since when has Kurt's house been 500ft under water? I think you may have posted this in the wrong thread, Krazy. ;)
I don't know how that happened.. I didn't post in this thread...

Any new updates?

[Dawson]

Well, I'm remaking the Battle Frontier at the moment, which has taken WAY too long because i had to make the buildings with charsets. And I'm just preparing chipsets now for the next big town and another secret area.

[blueguy]

OMG! *drools* After searching through the whole of the thread I must say I am EXTREMELY impressed. This is pure genius. Good work! :)

[PKMN_Sage]

Well, I'm remaking the Battle Frontier at the moment, which has taken WAY too long because i had to make the buildings with charsets. And I'm just preparing chipsets now for the next big town and another secret area.

Wow, I'm impressed phoenix! You're making chipsets and charsets too? I thought that was SB's job. Good luck to you two!

[Dawson]

OMG! *drools* After searching through the whole of the thread I must say I am EXTREMELY impressed. This is pure genius. Good work! :)
Wow, that's high praise indeed! Thanks!

Wow, I'm impressed phoenix! You're making chipsets and charsets too? I thought that was SB's job. Good luck to you two!
Unfortunately, while SB is away I have to do everything myself, except for trainer charsets which Avatar has kindly accepted to do for me :). But it's always a good thing when you know you don't have to rely on other people to get some progress.

[Matt]

Phoenix how in progress?

Thanks Matt;)

[Dawson]

Well, I've finished mapping the Battle Frontier and I've done the primary mapping of the city. I'm still working on the other chipset at the moment.

[Matt]

Could you tell me when you are end(in calculation etc.)
But amazing work!!!
I seen this is the best pokemon game of ever:)

Thanks Matt;

[Mr Cat Dog]

Holy crap that's good! But like DM said, you could make th water more realistic, but not OTT, as you don't want to make it look too tacky :P But still... *dies from excitement* I really can't wait for this game to be finished!

[Dawson]

Thanks Mr Cat Dog! I've got to admit that I'm quite pleased with the progress I've been making lately since I've been working alone and I've barely had chance to scratch my...nose... But when I do get to work I know exactly what I'm doing and I'm driving forward!

[Krazy_Meerkat]

Perhaps you could add a few magicarp swimming around every now and then..? Some goldeen and etc.
It would add a bit of life to the sea :)

[Jeff_PKLight]

I kinda agree with Krazy_Meerkat. It'll make that city stand out a lot! Keep up the great work!!!

~Jeff

[Dawson]

I was thinking of Pokemon along the lines of Mantine, Relicanth etc. Magikarp and Goldeen are more stream/lake type Pokemon.

[Krazy_Meerkat]

Lol I don't know any of the new pokemon's names, I was just giving an example :)

[Mr Cat Dog]

If you're having the Pokemon underwater, then Relicanth would be brilliant, as well as maybe Clamperl and Chinchou, and any other Pokemon you may think that Nintendo should have put in the Dive sections of RSE.

[Maximo v.2]

Maybe there could be a huge octupus legendary in one of the houses

[Dawson]

Chinchou is a good idea, I could have some pretty cool light effects eminating from it.
I don't really thing a huge octopus would fit into those tiny houses XD. The legendaries are already planned out anyway.

[Maximo v.2]

Well i still think its a good idea whats gonna be down there then

[Dawson]

I have a load of quirky ideas to put into the game that, hopefully, will surprise y'all XD. I'll leave it as a mystery for now as it is would be better to reveal it when I've got it completed.

New screen - ChromeMire Park, in ChromeMire City:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/ChromeMirePark.png
Sorry 'bout the lack of updates, I've had to spent alot of time in football/soccer training and trials and I've been distracted with other stuff, including a side project I've started in rm2k3 ;). You'll find out more about that when I'm ready to show it.

Comments and criticism appreciated, as always.

[Neo-Dragon]

looks good. I don't say anything wrong with the mapping so i can't ptovide critisism...
I'm looking foward to seeing both the thing you are working on for this game- and ur side project.

[PKMN_Sage]

Great screen! I would probably fill in the trees that are on the right(player's right) of the gym, unless there is some reason for it to look like that(aesthetics or otherwise). And you should also fill in another row of trees to fill the space of grass that are on the left(player's left) of the gym.

[Blaziken Trainer]

Looks great, and I don't know if it said but what is it a hack of?

[PKMN_Sage]

This game is not a hack, it is made with RM2K3. It is better than any hacked game you will find.

[Sorye HK]

Well, I can't really think of anything to criticise. Good mapping yet again Phoenix!

[Peekimon]

It's great, but, shouldn't there be a Gym Sign in front of the gym?

[Dawson]

This game is not a hack, it is made with RM2K3. It is better than any hacked game you will find.
Thanks for that comment! XD
Sage - The gap between the trees to the right of the Gym actually serves a purpose. I'll get straight to filling in the other gap though.
Peekimon - The Gym sign is by the Gym, just not directly in front of it.
Daegon - Thanks!

Thanks for the comments guys.

[Peekimon]

Oh, sorry, I didn't see the Gym Sign.

[PokeOnic]

I hate this game.

Do you know why?

Because it looks so good that it makes me have this horrible feeling in my stomach, because I can't wait to play it, once it's released I'll like it.

:p

[Krazy_Meerkat]

I wouldn't go as far as to say that.. I can't wait for the release either but it's not the end of the world if I have to wait a bit longer.

[PokeOnic]

I wouldn't go as far as to say that.. I can't wait for the release either but it's not the end of the world if I have to wait a bit longer.


It's called a joke/exagurated compliment.

[Fangking Omega]

I'll swear the word "gym" is missing from the front of the gym... beautiful shot nonetheless. There's never a criticism I can have about your mapping, which makes me jealous :D

Nah, seriously man, keep up the awesome work!

Above all the big games out there, this is that which I crave most.

[Dawson]

Yeah, I think the word 'GYM' is missing too, and it's like that on all of my other chipsets too :S. I think it's because when I make new chipsets I just edit existing ones with the new tiles without changing the gym. Meh, it's only a small flaw that can be changed easily enough.

Thanks for the compliment, it's always very nice to receive nice map comments from an expert mapper. ;)


Above all the big games out there, this is that which I crave most.
Sounds like I got some more competition XD. Wanting to be the best is a good thing in game making because it means that you constantly want to prove and try new and inventive things that'll put you above the rest. Ask Booda Sack and rm2k3kid and they'll tell ya the same ;)

[Fangking Omega]

I couldn't possibly complain about either of the games of the aforementioned experts of this realm, but yours hints at a pretty awesome story, and I'd say your mapping is just about the best, and your original ideas and such rival COL and Liquid to the death. Yours just has the best appeal to me, though I look forward to the other big games too! Mapwise, you've won every time, and I've always appreciated anything aesthetically pleasing. It creates the world around the player :D

[Booda Sack]

Ask Booda Sack and rm2k3kid and they'll tell ya the same
Heh,I know what you mean.
HD and Liquid have kept me on my toes.

[sketch]

Hey,Phoenix,this game is awesome!

[Dawson]

Thanks sketch.

Random screenshot alert! Well, I needed something to post in this thread XD.
Most are pretty much works in progress but I'm showing them anyway, I think I've posted one already too:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/NewScreen1.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/NewScreen2.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/NewScreen3.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/NewScreen4.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/NewScreen5.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/NewScreen6.png

[Mr Cat Dog]

And I was beginning to think you'd given up on this :P Great screenshots as always Dawson. Can you say hw far you've gotten in terms of storyline and such?

[AbareMax]

Your screenshots never cease to surprise me Phoenix! The brilliance of your mapmaking skills, rival that of Nintendo's! Everyday I look forward to an update on your game, and everyday, I am amazed. I simply cannot wait until the full version!

AbareMax

[DarkMage31]

Nice job as always. And... congrats on the modship. I'm not at all surprised - you definitely deserve it. :D

[PKMN_Sage]

And I was beginning to think you'd given up on this :P Great screenshots as always Dawson. Can you say hw far you've gotten in terms of storyline and such?

How could you think that? Phoenix has put SO much work into this, and it really shows throughout this thread. I really can't wait to see this finished. Those screens are just beautiful!

[RM2K3kid]

Well it beat's my work by far! Awesome work phoenix! I'm looking forward to playing this game!

[Sorye HK]

Your game is like way better than mine! Great mapping as usual.

[Mr Cat Dog]

How could you think that? Phoenix has put SO much work into this, and it really shows throughout this thread. I really can't wait to see this finished. Those screens are just beautiful!I was only kidding... I'm sure Phoenix knows that too :P (Notice how I put the :P after it)

[Neo-Dragon]

really nice screens phoenix. I'm really really looking foward to this game :)

[Dawson]

Thanks for the awesome comments guys, I appreciate it!
MCD - I knew you were kidding XD
DM - Thanks for your approval, it means a lot.

Now for something I haven't done for a while. Two updates in two days! Yay! XD

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Ascreen1.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Ascreen2.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Ascreen3.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Ascreen4.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Ascreen5.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/Ascreen6.png

[Blizzy]

nice screens you got there phoenix316!! :P
keep up the good work

[Peekimon]

Awesome MAP work!!!
One teeny tiny error:
(In attachment)
The brownish edge doesn't quite go well with the green surrounding.

[Neo-Dragon]

peekimon said what i was going to say Xp
But really nice screens, again good map work.
By the way, I've probly asked this about 10 times already, but are u using a CBS? and if so, which one? your own? the group 1?

[Avatar]

Nice screens, your mapping is very nice, and as Peekimon pointed out you should fix the edges around the the water tiles.

Other than that, I think you should set the Obscure Bottom Third on the Grass tiles.

[Krazy_Meerkat]

I'm pretty sure he is using the team cbs from a long time ago which he fixed up to his liking. I think he has done a great job :)
Btw Phoenix, when are we going to see that sneak peak movie of the game?

[Mystic]

The game looks really good Phoenix316. The maps look like a professional made them, they look great. Good luck man and I can't wait for this game to be completed.

[Dawson]

Thanks guys!
I'll fix those small errors now.
Krazy - Back when the video was planned I was expecting it to be done about now. But you can't predict what will happen in real life and unfortunately SB just has not had any time to make it. Hopefully he'll be able to make it around summer time, it's disappointing, I know, but it can't be helped.

[PKMN_Sage]

Hey phoenix, I just checked the first post of this thread and it seems like the main hero, Damien, is sprited awkwardly. It doesn't look like it is the same style as the rest, although I think I remember that it may have been the same style awhile back. Was it changed?

[Dawson]

It looked awkward because, well...I made it... But thanks for that comment! XD
I actually redid it a while back because I didn't like it, and the female charset that Avatar made for me kind of put it to shame.
But if Avatar is willing to do the male hero charset too, I'd be happy to let him do it.

[Mr Cat Dog]

I'd like to live in one of those apartments... what? o_O But, great screens Dawson again ^_^

[Dawson]

Thanks MCD! XD And in the game you get the chance to, provided you have enough money of course XD

[Avatar]

I like the idea of being able to get an apartment, can you decorate the apartment like the hidden bases?

By the way, on one of the screenshots, the top of the tree is missing.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/DarkChronic/Ascreen2.png

[Dawson]

Thanks for pointing that out Avatar, I've fixed it.

Yeah, the Apartments are like the hidden bases, but they allow for a lot more customisation and, hopefully, a place to play some minigames.

[Peekimon]

WOW!!!
*Imagines how the Apartment would look like*
ARRGH, can't wait for the game to be released!!
Great work, by the way.

Could we see a screenshot of the apartment or would you like to keep it a secret?

[D@rk Ho-oH]

hey phoenix316. i found something wrong with one of your pictures i don't know if anyone told you that but i marked the error.

and keep ythe good work your game is very good

[Dawson]

Thanks for pointing that out D@rk Ho-oH, I'll just change it.

Peekimon - I'm just working on the chipset now for the apartments, I've got to put in a load of varied furniture and accessories. But I'll post a screenshot of it once I've got it the way I like it.

[Maximo v.2]

Do you get to live in there like a secret base

[AbareMax]

Nice pics there Phoenix! I like the new ideas. I've noticed that you put a lot of hard work into your maps, and that's something that isn't found in some of the other projects...

Hey, I don't know if you've answered this or not, but how come you don't have the words for "gym" on the gym? I'm just wondering.

AbareMax

[Lust]

This game seems really cool. Do you have a demo out?

[Dawson]

Thanks Abare.

I answered that a while ago. Basically, waaay back when I started messing with Pokemon chipsets before I started on Hidden Depths, I removed the 'GYM' word from the gym and ended up saving the chipset without the word on it. After that I used the same chipset for every town, just changing the building's on it and leaving the gym as it was.

[Peekimon]

Peekimon - I'm just working on the chipset now for the apartments, I've got to put in a load of varied furniture and accessories. But I'll post a screenshot of it once I've got it the way I like it.

Oh, ok, I can wait for the screenshot.
*Imagines how the apartment would look like*
...now I can't wait!!! But, I have to.
Keep up the great work!!! :) :)

[smithy.boy]

always loved this. it should get some sort of award.
anyway i dont really pay much attention to rm2k games i usualyl hack gba but i see you put alot of work into this

[Dawson]

Thanks for the compliment! I really appreciate comments like those keeping the thread alive when I've not got time to make updates .
I think I'll start showing off Gym Leaders now. Here's Buzz Burns, the bug/fire Gym Leader:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/F_BgymLdr01.png

[Krazy_Meerkat]

A bug/fire gym leader? How did that come about?

[Dawson]

It came from the fact that I wanted Gym battles to be more challenging, and the only feasible way to do it was to give the Gym leaders dual types. 7 out of the 8 Gym Leaders have two types of Pokemon, usually types that counteract one each others weaknesses.

[Krazy_Meerkat]

I get it.. To prevent people simply using a pokemon which is fire against a bug pokemon

[Dawson]

Yeah, that's the general idea. For instance another Gym leader has Rock/Grass Pokemon so if somebody trees to just use a water Pokemon to take out each of the Gym Leader's Pokemon, they'll get KO'd by the Grass Pokemon. The same will happen if somebody thinks a fire Pokemon will get them the badge they need, they'll get slaughtered by the Rock Pokemon. It makes people evenly train different types of Pokemon.

[Deoxys_Lover]

Yo phoenix i cant see the pictures can put them in your post

[Dawson]

Which pictures can't you see?

[BigBoyBrad]

This gaem looks amazing. do you have a demo out so that I can test play it?

[Deoxys_Lover]

The pictures in the begining can you put this as a trainer http://www.ferretgames.com/imageupload/images/rich boy alex424c8015ad910.bmp

[Dawson]

Sorry, but I've got a spriter already that's creating the trainer sprites, and I prefer sprites from scratch rather than edits.

Here's a couple of screens showing the new male hero that Avatar made:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/New1.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/New2.png

[rpgdude]

This game is something I am goin to get, in fact if I don't get it I will scream my eyes off its that good!

[Sorye HK]

Looking nice as always, Phoenix!

[Kylie-chan]

I know nothing about Game Dev., and you'll never catch me in any other thread in Game Dev., but I think the Gym Leader dual types is a good idea =3 It's a cakewalk with the official games 'cause I just train them up and take them out with brute force anyway, being a lazy n00b xD

[Dawson]

Ooh, Kylie I'm so flattered that you posted in my thread XD

Thanks for the comments guys, I haven't had too much time to work on the game lately as I've been tied up in other projects but I'll do my best to keep progress moving along.

[funnybunny]

Look really nice, just out of curiosity: how far is the CBS(If you are creating one on your own)

Also, what kind of systems will there be in the game, don't know if you already posted that though.

[Jeff_PKLight]

Lookin' good Pheonix!! Keep up the good work! ;)

~Jeff

[PKMN_Sage]

Bonjour! I am back in the states!

Anyway, the sprite looks kickass. Good job Avatar!

PS: APRIL FOOL'S! :D

[Omega Latios]

Sorry, but I've got a spriter already that's creating the trainer sprites, and I prefer sprites from scratch rather than edits.

Here's a couple of screens showing the new male hero that Avatar made:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/New1.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/phoenix316/New2.png


Screenies are not very good
APRIL FOOL'S!
they are great! very good work phoenix!

[Avatar]

Very nice mapping, I like it.
Although I think you should extend the brick tiles just one more tile to the right.

[Dawson]

Welcome back PKMN Sage!
Avatar, thanks for that. I've editted it now.

[Deoxys_Lover]

Well can i be a co spriter im very good heres an example http://www.ferretgames.com/imageupload/images/meowthill+persianill424e1ea11a305.bmp

[baka123w]

deoxys ur fuzions r pretty good phenix might accept them for the breeding system but wat do i know im not working on this project ive got my own hack to keep up with XD

[AbareMax]

Awesome screens Phoenix! I agree with Avatar though. The brick tiles should be brought out a little bit more and then it will be perfect!

AbareMax

@Deoxys_Lover: That was a completely useless post. Phoenix already pointed out that he doesn't need any help with the sprites. If you want to help him, don't post in the thread just PM him

@Baka123w: This is a game thread, you should be posting about the game.

[Arekkusu Rizu]

Hey Dawson, got any updates on this game?

[PKMN_Sage]

Aww, here I was thinking there was an update. Hopefully there will be some.

[Dawson]

Unfortunately, time restraints have been really tight for the past month or so and I haven't really had time to get much done. I've pretty much done all the maps now, it's just the core coding I need to be concentrating on and I can't really show screenshots of the progress, codewise, anyway. I am planning to show a load of screenshots when I start adding in the sidequests and minigames that I've had planned for a while though.

[Peekimon]

Ooh, what mini games have you planned for Hidden Depths?

[BluePhoenix]

Well I want to say that your game is absolutelly great. I like all the screenies. Well I am also learning how to make these rpg games and well I need a tutor and so if you like it than will you teach me. *if offtopic than ignore it. SORRY*
~RAP~

[Sorye HK]

I'm awaiting your updates very eagerly, as usual. *feels great that the exams have finished*

[Pichuscute]

This game is FREAKIN AWESOME!!!! Can`t wait till your finished^-^
*Waits till done^-^*

[Jeff_PKLight]

Yeah, Pheonix's game is cool. :) Though, I don't think he'll get it done any time soon, since he's pretty busy.

[Pichuscute]

Yeah, Your right. But It`s Still FREAKIN AWESOME ^-^

[Omega Latios]

I agree This Game Is Really Awesome! Very Nice Phoenix!

[chubbsy]

hello from chubbsy this is my first ever post ooooo how sweet.

[Omega Latios]

Umm Chubbsy...That was a useless post. In this thread you should talk about this game

[chubbsy]

hey that game looks buzzin it look's really good make sure to tell me when you'r fineshed

[Pichuscute]

Is this game still being worked on???? cause it`s really good, ignore chubbsy`s first post

[Sorye HK]

I'm sure that Phoenix's still working on the game as much as he can. Probably just has some other things he needs to catch up on.

[DarkPegasus]

Yea this game is to great to be forsaken!

[Omega Latios]

This Game's so awesome...I hope Phoenix Shows more screens soon

[Pichuscute]

Yeah I don`t think he would stop a game this good

he`s probably on vacation or somethin

Completely forgot it was summer *smacks himself in the head for forgeting such a thing*

[Jeff_PKLight]

Nah... he isn't on vacation. He practically comes here everyday, doing his job as a mod. He's just probably too busy currently.

[Pichuscute]

oh i dont check whose here ever so i wouldn`t know, ya you are probably right

[Maverick]

This game is teh awesomeness! I hope Dawson shows some updates soon, this is really cool.

[Datriot]

This game looks cool, keep it up Phoenix!

[SaintBeast]

Hey there Dawson (Phoenix316)??

Hey man, long time no? Came to see if you where able to keep Hidden Depths going. I know you put alot of work in to it, I feel bad I had to drop off the project like I did. Didn't mean too or want to thats for sure, I was enjoying doing the spriting but RL has a way of getting in the way of things. I don't recall if I said this before or not, or even if theres a point too but don't hesitate to use my sprites and concepts even though I'm not with the project, I won't be doing anything with them unfortunatly. You've done alot of work, I realy hope this project goes all the way. I'd like to say I want to get back on it, but I don't realy think I'll find the time.. Well, anyway hope to hear from you.

[SaintBeast]

Long time no talk Phoenix. Checking in on the project, still feel bad I had to drop out on it.. RL has such a way of getting in the way of things you know? Hope to hear from you.

[Barry]

I wasn't aware this was still going. Congrats making it over a year Mr. DawSAWN.

[pepsi.max]

hey this game looks sweet. its being going a year. which game is it in here thats been going for 2 years? oh well. keep it up mate!!!

[Sorye HK]

I liked the new screens on Twinkledragon. It's good to know that you're still working on it. XD

[Cowrie]

Thread closed for revival, as it went untouched for more than the two-month period allowed.

*closed*