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oloverdaone
August 18th, 2006, 07:31 AM
haha so guys, making my party and i was wonderin what ya'll guys thot wud be the best annoyer!? And moveset for that annoyer huh?

Hypello
August 18th, 2006, 07:36 AM
I like Sceptile as an annoyer... well, not sure if it is called an annoyer (Everyone has Substitute now so why use an annoyer?)

Sceptile @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 252 Spd at least, try getting HP and defenses and maybe some SpA.
Nature: I'd say Timid but Modest works too I guess.
- Leech Seed
- Substitute
- Leaf Blade
- Toxic

Something like that. Literally sucks the life out of the opponent.

Squarewalker
August 18th, 2006, 09:56 AM
annoyers simply fail (especially in the competitive enviroment), you're better even in-game with a fast sweeper instead of wasting a pokemon slot with a pokemon that doesn't do basically anything.

n3croart
August 19th, 2006, 11:51 AM
Annoyer? For NB, you can use Umbreon or Celebi, for in-game, I'm not sure. To the poster above, they do fail. I've tried it once.

chrisatsilph
August 20th, 2006, 12:47 AM
if your in an emergency this pokemon will fail

i would never use a pokemon like this

jc_rcw
August 20th, 2006, 01:16 AM
Actually sceppy can annoy, and it can work, doing some damage to blissey and firends.

Mullet
August 20th, 2006, 02:26 AM
Annoyers suck and all you need in-game are fast sweepers.

oloverdaone
August 21st, 2006, 10:52 AM
i don't understand the use of subsititute except against one hit k-oers? someone explain please...maybe i'm not thinking right.

aragornbird
August 21st, 2006, 06:15 PM
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Substitute is one of the most useful moves in the game

Substitute protects from Status effects, Leech Seed, and Moves that lower your stats (like Screech and Charm).
If the opponent hits your Sub and it does not break, you have a free turn to do whatever you want. It also allows you to use Focus Punch without fear of getting hit, since the sub takes the damage for you and you can give the opponent a taste of the strongest Fighting move in the game.

Substitute is used in combos like Sub+Reversal, Sub+Flail, and Sub+Berry Boost. Substitute can also be Baton Passed.

There are so many things you can do with it. It’s an amazing move.

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Mullet
August 21st, 2006, 06:39 PM
You can also set up behind it.

n3croart
August 21st, 2006, 08:41 PM
Problem is, when using Substitute, your opponent can plan what to do, as in link battle, by using moves to lower your health points and you can't substitute. I'm just saying.

pikachuismyhomeboy.
August 21st, 2006, 09:41 PM
I think Ninetails with:
Will-o-Wisp/Toxic
Fire Spin
Confuse Ray
Fire Blast/Flamethrower

Or substitute instead of one of those.

chrisatsilph
August 22nd, 2006, 06:07 AM
i saw this in the battle factory a cradilly with these moves

substitute
solarbeam
sunny day
recover

this cradilly was very helpful exspecialy its substitute. i use substitute than sunny day than solarbeam, when cradilly is weak cause of substitute i than use recover so a pokemon with substitute and recover is a good mix

n3croart
August 22nd, 2006, 06:11 AM
i saw this in the battle factory a cradilly with these moves

substitute
solarbeam
sunny day
recover

this cradilly was very helpful exspecialy its substitute. i use substitute than sunny day than solarbeam, when cradilly is weak cause of substitute i than use recover so a pokemon with substitute and recover is a good mix

Cradilly is a good annoyer but give it 'Giga Drain'. And plus, it's already metioned, annoyers fail.