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Dizzy
April 19th, 2004, 04:25 PM
What Do you think the Capital of the Worlds are?

I think that Hoenn's Capital is Lilycove City. Johto's Capital is Either Goldenrod City or Blackthorn City. And Kanto's Capital is Saffron City. What do you think.

Another thing, is the Differences between All Three Continents. Hoenn Doesnt have those little Route-Houses that Divide The Different Regions of Kanto and Johto. What's up with the differences?

Timbjerr
April 19th, 2004, 06:11 PM
I actually once had serious thought about politics in the Pokmon Continent (my name for all the regions put together)...who is the governing body of the place? How come they are never mentioned in the anime or games?

I hypothesized ht the capitol of Kanto was celedon (cuz of tha big mansion that I considered the Governor's Mansion), the capitol city of Johto was in Ecruteak (lotsa history there, so it is only fitting), and the capitol of the entire Pokmon Continent was Indigo Plateau

I grew out of this ideological thought by the time Ru/Sa were released so I never gave much thought to the same topic in hoenn, but if I were to guess, I would think Slateport yo be the capitol city.

Dizzy
April 19th, 2004, 08:39 PM
Well if you think about it, There would have to be some sort of ruler for each :).. There would be an extra group Along with the Political and Religions, It would need to be of pokemon. That group would be ruled by The Elite Four, and the Officials and Each City would have to be the Gym Leaders and Proffessors. The Political people would have to be the King of Johto (yes there is a king... to my knowledge atleast) The Individual Rulers of Kanto, And The Emperor of Hoenn. The Law Inforcement and Nurses (Officer Jenny and Nurse Joy) would also be involved in the political things. The Religious part is still empty, but Ecruteak would probably be the most religious, because of Legendary Pokemon and History.

Geometric-sama
April 19th, 2004, 09:22 PM
I always thought Johto's would be Goldenrod, Kanto's Celadon - they are the biggest cities, with the big PokMarts.

Eco-Mono
April 19th, 2004, 09:29 PM
I actually once had serious thought about politics in the Pokmon Continent (my name for all the regions put together)...who is the governing body of the place? How come they are never mentioned in the anime or games?

I hypothesized ht the capitol of Kanto was celedon (cuz of tha big mansion that I considered the Governor's Mansion), the capitol city of Johto was in Ecruteak (lotsa history there, so it is only fitting), and the capitol of the entire Pokmon Continent was Indigo Plateau

I grew out of this ideological thought by the time Ru/Sa were released so I never gave much thought to the same topic in hoenn, but if I were to guess, I would think Slateport yo be the capitol city.
This is most probable in my mind as well. Good work.

Dizzy
April 19th, 2004, 09:35 PM
The Pokemon World needs more Spirituality and More Continents :)!

Geometric-sama
April 19th, 2004, 09:44 PM
Spirituality? I think having religions in the Pokmon World would alienate people. One of the best things about Pokmon is that it embraces everyone, from all races, boys and girls - that's part of its widespread appeal. Religions would split the Pokfans into bitter, twisted, plotting vengeful groups XD

Dizzy
April 19th, 2004, 09:52 PM
Spirituality? I think having religions in the Pokmon World would alienate people. One of the best things about Pokmon is that it embraces everyone, from all races, boys and girls - that's part of its widespread appeal. Religions would split the Pokfans into bitter, twisted, plotting vengeful groups XD

..Yah, you have a point. Did you read my Worlds Discover Thread? It's in this forum. It has to do with Discovery and Religions.. It could be a pokemon based religion :)..Dont forget to see Pokemon Mythology which is also in this forum.

Ryoutarou
April 20th, 2004, 01:51 PM
johto-Goldenroad
kanto-Viridian city
Hoenn-lilycove

Dizzy
April 20th, 2004, 05:16 PM
Where do you get Viridian from, blue? Viridian is a Small City am I right? Hey you guys I have an Idea! Maybe we can put together a world map :). With all the worlds that the fanfics have, we could probably put together a world map with all the continents, and put cities and capitals on them.

Geometric-sama
April 20th, 2004, 06:11 PM
We could do our very own PokCommunity map, then we could pick an area from it to rule and stuff! Hey Dizz, remember your empires stuff? We could bring that back too!

Dizzy
April 20th, 2004, 06:15 PM
Yaahhh We should do that :)... OMG thats such a good Idea, we should bring everything back. Pokemon Community Renaissance ;)

HiKaizer
April 21st, 2004, 03:28 AM
Maybe the gyms are the way they decide, the ones with the strongest gyms are the capitol. Frankly since the whole pokmon revolves around pokmon (duh) it'll have something to do with them probably.

And then maybe they don't have capitols and every city has its own state?

Dizzy
April 21st, 2004, 11:21 AM
Nope because you could have a really strong Gym in a not so big town/city. States are overrated, I think there more like City-States if you ask me. So who wants to help on the map?

Dizzy
April 21st, 2004, 10:33 PM
*Double Post, sorry :(*

Okay, from my journal of the ancient world, I've recorded that there are 7 Nations, There are way more though. They Include Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Orimia*, Dialatia*, Gemaetus* and Aquelo*(Not pronounced Akyoolo or Akeelo, It's pronounced A kuh lo)

* Nations with the Star near it will be introduced below.

Kanto
Kanto, Consists of all Continental Kanto, And the Rainbow Islands which are located to the East ( From Fuschia Going > This way)

Capital: Saffron City
Government: Royal Agency (Royal Agents Rule Cities under Confederacy)
Nation Discovered in: Around 3800
Liberated in: 3500

Johto
Johto, Borders with many nations, Landclaims in Johto Consist of All Continental Johto, Cianwood City, and upward from Cianwood City The Small Piece of Continent that is owned by Gemaetus* They also own the Island of Bizel, Or Battle Tower Island, which is located in Hoenn.

Capital: Goldenrod City
Government: Monarchy (Two Kings, Olivine, Goldenrod)
Discovered in: 3000
Liberated in: 2500

Hoenn
Hoenn is a very large nation, and isolated too. Anything within the Map of Hoenn Belongs to it, except the islands to the southeast, which are claimed for Johto.

Capital: Lilycove City
Government: Imperial Monarchy (4 Emperors for 4 Districts--Rustboro-Dewford, Slateport-Fallarbor, Mauville-Lilycove, Oceanic Areas)
Discovered in: 1500
Liberated in: 1295


Orimia
Orimia, consists of The Orange Islands, and the small continents of Circo and Tondan. Orimia is located to the South of Johto, and to the west of Hoenn.

Capital: Troveta City/Island
Government: Autonomous Rule upon each Island.
Discovered in: 1853
Liberated in: 1853

Dialatia
Dialatia is the Northern region of the Kanto/Johto Continent. Mostly Mountain or Coastlines can be found in this northern region. Cerulean City would have been the capital.

Capital: Apollo City
Government: Aristrocracy
Discovered in: 3600
Liberated in: 3600

Gemaetus
Gemaetus is a large hilly nation to the west of Johto. Lots of Cities can be found here, there are two capitals, for the two regions.

Capital: Sapphire Harbor (West)-Diamond Metropolis(Mainland)
Government: Monarchy
Discovered in: 1500
Liberated in: 1500

Aquelo
Aquelo is an Oceanic Nation, Submerged yards into the Ocean. Many people live on the small Islands and on Shallow Waters which cover most of the continent.

Capital: Skystar City
Government: Democracy
Discovered in: 1400
Liberated in:

Reply :)

HiKaizer
April 22nd, 2004, 01:20 AM
Huh? Where did that come from?

Anyway size is no issue, Australia's capitol is one of the smallest cities here
(Yes I am another aussie)

jynx
April 22nd, 2004, 01:38 AM
Why not INDIGO PLATEAU!

You know the "Elite4"? Its called $hitennou in Japanese, which means "The Four Big Kings"...

[b]Kings...[b/] Kings rule the countries, don't they?

Dizzy
April 22nd, 2004, 12:33 PM
Indigo Plateau is considered the Bridge between Kanto and Johto.. Isnt it? So it would be capital of Both Kanto and Johto

asher_son_of_ash
April 22nd, 2004, 12:46 PM
Hmm...interesting. Never thought about this before...Indigo Plateu can be possibly the capital of both Jotho and Kanto. And Hoenn? X.X;

Rustburo? -blinks-

Uh...Devon corp. is there. Some people there used to work on buildings and stuff like that.

Another way to see...

Dizzy
April 22nd, 2004, 12:56 PM
What about the Other Continents? This is only 39-40% of the whole Pokemon World. Maybe I could draw some maps of something, but my scanner is broken so until it's fixed -_-..

asher_son_of_ash
April 22nd, 2004, 01:00 PM
Oh yeah. Orange Islands. I forget which island is which. x.x; And wow, Dizzy. You research Pokemon good. And I dunno about the other continents. Never known 'em. X_x;

Dizzy
April 22nd, 2004, 01:04 PM
I actually made it up, but it took hours to research histories of Kanto, Johto and the Orange Islands. I have the Orange Islands on there somewhere. It's called Orimia.
But, Kanto had to be taken into consideration, because theres before G/S, After G/S, Anime, Manga, and Fire Red and Leaf Green Informations that I needed to put into it. Hey... I have the bestest Idea!! I wanna be a pokemon proffesor! You guys can be too :).

asher_son_of_ash
April 22nd, 2004, 01:22 PM
Orimia
Orimia, consists of The Orange Islands, and the small continents of Circo and Tondan. Orimia is located to the South of Johto, and to the west of Hoenn.

Capital: Troveta City/Island
Government: Autonomous Rule upon each Island.
Discovered in: 1853
Liberated in: 1853


Ooh. Didn't see. -needs new eyes- Anyway...x.x; You're a fashion kind AND a PKMN professor (or wannabe)

Dude, you have really cool ideas. I sorta envy you. ^^;

Dizzy
April 22nd, 2004, 01:25 PM
Lol I'm a Pokemon Professor Wannabe (Imposter!)

Don't envy me! I'm not the type to be envied. If you want you can become my partner :)

AZSupraT
April 22nd, 2004, 01:39 PM
I would like to think that all of the capitals would be the gambling towns/big towns, Celedon, Goldenrod, etc.

Dizzy
April 22nd, 2004, 01:41 PM
Those are also the ones with the Department Stores, with the exception of Mauville. Congratulations upon becoming an Admin VRoad.

jynx
April 23rd, 2004, 09:38 AM
Indigo Plateau is considered the Bridge between Kanto and Johto.. Isnt it? So it would be capital of Both Kanto and Johto
But...I just think that obeying the Japanese originals are better...

Say the truth, elite4 really means Four Big Sky Kings in Japanese, they are selected to rule Kanto and Johto together.

Orange Islands is ruled by Lorelei, though.

asher_son_of_ash
April 23rd, 2004, 11:03 AM
Mmmm...Lorelei/Prima?(in the anime) Maybe that's why she was absent in the GSC games....

I just had this thought: The Gym Leaders of each town probably rule it like mayors and such. They probably have their own elections since I just noticed Koga get up to Elite 4. O_o;


--My random thought

Dizzy
April 23rd, 2004, 01:18 PM
Mmmm...Lorelei/Prima?(in the anime) Maybe that's why she was absent in the GSC games....

I just had this thought: The Gym Leaders of each town probably rule it like mayors and such. They probably have their own elections since I just noticed Koga get up to Elite 4. O_o;


--My random thought

That was my Idea Under the Royal Agency part, since Gym Leaders/Professor are Authority. But Elite Four Ruling Both Kanto and Johto makes sense. I just thought that Sure, Indigo Plateau can be the capital, or both Kanto and Johto. But There can also be capital cities too.

AJHalliwell
April 23rd, 2004, 06:25 PM
Something tells me the governments of pokemon in japanese and english aren't the same. I'm betting pokemon doesn't have kings.
(Also)
What about the cities that don't have gyms? (In the game few; but in the anime many) Okay, just putting in my many cents.

Dizzy
April 23rd, 2004, 06:41 PM
They either have professors or somekind of Official (Mr. Fuji in Lavendar Town/Professor Oak in Pallet Town/ Professor Elm in New Bark Town/ And Mr. Pokemon for Cherrygrove)

Iveechan
April 23rd, 2004, 09:59 PM
I have this feeling that the Pokemon World doesn't have a single highest ruler. The government would be a mix of the Pokemon Master, the Elites, and the regular lawmen. They need to govern both humans and Pokemon, so it's a pretty big job.

Jirachi
April 23rd, 2004, 10:49 PM
THEY ARE NOT CONTINENTS THEY ARE REGIONS!!!

Can you not get this in your heads? Each region is tiny and about the size of Bali!

The capital cities? THEY ARE NOT COUNTRIES! No capital cities! CLOSE THIS THREAD!

-use your head-

Dizzy
April 24th, 2004, 03:40 AM
THEY ARE NOT CONTINENTS THEY ARE REGIONS!!!

Can you not get this in your heads? Each region is tiny and about the size of Bali!

The capital cities? THEY ARE NOT COUNTRIES! No capital cities! CLOSE THIS THREAD!

-use your head-

Shut up.. Sped
Anyways

Thats like the Royal Agency I planned out for the Pokemon World.

jynx
April 24th, 2004, 08:45 AM
Something tells me the governments of pokemon in japanese and english aren't the same. I'm betting pokemon doesn't have kings.
(Also)
What about the cities that don't have gyms? (In the game few; but in the anime many) Okay, just putting in my many cents.
Elite4 is 四天王 in Japanese. (pronounciation: $hittenNOU)
Meaning 4 big Sky KINGS, any evidence against this?

Second evidence: The red Gyadrados. Lance had went to survey the incident. Besides, in GCS, Lance helps the players to beat the Team Rocket for once.
And in FRLG, Lorelei appears with Team Rocket.

Third evidence: If no ruler, where do all those Joys and Jennies come from?
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Re Asher son of Ash:
I suppose your idea is ture ^^ It does happen like you said the Pokemon Special.

Jirachi
April 25th, 2004, 01:31 AM
Shut up.. Sped
OHHHH, look who is FLAMING! :badsmile:

What is Sped anyway? An Exploud?

-use your head-

asher_son_of_ash
April 25th, 2004, 09:54 AM
Whoa...no fighting here. >_<; We got enough of it. Anywhoo...continents can be regions, no? Australian region? Australia is a continent. ?:|

Duke R
April 25th, 2004, 10:37 AM
Australia... a continent... I think Australia is a country... I think...

jynx
April 25th, 2004, 10:55 AM
Australia is a country,
Australasia is a continent. (includes New Zealand, and is sometimes called Oceanica)

Dizzy
April 25th, 2004, 11:50 AM
Australia is a continent, but it's in a group, that forms another continent, because the poor little Isles out in the pacific don't have a continent on their own, So Australia+Pacific Isles= Oceania.

asher_son_of_ash
April 26th, 2004, 08:51 AM
Forming a place like the orange islands? O_o; -whacks head- Whoops. Guess I got confused on that Australia bit.

jynx
April 26th, 2004, 09:45 AM
I thought that Orange Islands looks like Philippines...

asher_son_of_ash
April 26th, 2004, 09:57 AM
^^; My homeland! -coughs- Urm...O_o; Well...the Philippines does have the same islandic effect. O_o;

Dizzy
May 1st, 2004, 03:44 PM
Pokemon Government Agency ^_^.. I shall now be known as one of the Emperors of Hoenn!

^^NICK^^ v.2.0
May 8th, 2004, 06:42 PM
I think Kanto is Celedon; Johto is Goldenrod or Ecruteak; and Hoenn is Slateport/Rustboro/Lilycove.

Dizzy
May 8th, 2004, 10:08 PM
How do you guy's feel about having a Pokemon World Government System right here at PC? It would be really cool, different people make up the rulers of Different lands.

jynx
May 9th, 2004, 10:42 AM
^^; My homeland! -coughs- Urm...O_o; Well...the Philippines does have the same islandic effect. O_o;
Everything in Pokemon is fusion!

(fusion=mix of culture. So don't ever say that Pokemon is racist!=.= Pokemon is made up of different parts of the world!)